Pure Diesel Kush, Kali Mist, Ebb and Flow

[tomasinho]

Specs: Personal Medicine Grow to combat Bipolar I.

The contestants: 5 sour diesel x pure kush (+1 sd x pk runt), 5 Resevoir Seeds Kali Mist (both strains from clone)

The method: Ebb and Flow, Using GH Flora series, 3-2-1,2-2-2,0-1-2 (lucas during flower), 400W HPS

The time: 11 days into 12/12. Starting to show white hairs.

Key: The taller plants are the sd x pk, the shorter are the Kali Mist. I have set them up in a terrace (see last pic).

[Matt the Funk]

Nice, I have bi-polar(NOS). I am a rapid cycler. Just wondering how these strains help?

[tomasinho]

I have actually not smoked these strains yet. However, many different strains of cannabis help with my bp disorder. When I know that I am about to go into a manic phase, I try to get ahold of an indica to help chill me out and get some sleep. Sativas (like Kali mist for ex) I use for getting things done and concentration when the depressive fog rolls in. I have tried many different prescription drugs - all of which gave me horrible side effects. I'll stick with natures cure fo sheezy.

[GodBud]

Are you able to grow without worrying about getting busted because you use it for medical reasons? If so how do you get set up that way? Is it only certain states? Just wondering?

[Matt the Funk]

I have actually not smoked these strains yet. However, many different strains of cannabis help with my bp disorder. When I know that I am about to go into a manic phase, I try to get ahold of an indica to help chill me out and get some sleep. Sativas (like Kali mist for ex) I use for getting things done and concentration when the depressive fog rolls in. I have tried many different prescription drugs - all of which gave me horrible side effects. I'll stick with natures cure fo sheezy.
Oh, yeah I use weed the same way. i was just wondering if you thought these strains were especially good. The meds are really dreadful.

[tomasinho]

Godbud - Is it legal? Yes and no. My state allows it because I have a doctors recomendation to use marijuana for medicinal purposes but the federal government does not honor the state law. So, I grow a small personal crop that hopefully will not attract the feds.

[tomasinho]

Oh By the way... the Kali Mist is from serious seeds and NOT reservoir seeds. Sorry for the brain fart.

[Have a Cigar]

Duuuuuude looking very nice, do you have an aim or email where i could ask a few questions? Im a meddy grower too and i really think we got the clones from the same mother or even distributor.

[tomasinho]

Honestly, I feel a little weird about posting my e-mail address on here b/c I have a university e-mail address that includes my name. I should probably open an account at yahoo or google sometime soon. However, the SD x PK cut is talked about on icmag - it is a swerve/CD cut. If you want to ask any questions please just post them here until I get a yahoo account.

[Have a Cigar]

I got my cut from CD, awesome, this plants a stretcher, just be warned (unless of course your not concerned about space)

[tomasinho]

Yeah - the sour x pure kush stretches too much for my liking. I am only growing under a 400 so I dont like to do tall stretchy plants - not enough light penetration. The kali mist, which I thought would be the tall ones - are actually a lot shorter and bushier. The plants are so different that it is hard to get even light on the canopy - the sdpk is about a foot taller now and both are still in stretch! Next crop will be one or the other - depending on which product I like better. If I do the sdpk I will have to grow many and flower when they are about 6 inches - bud on stick style. The sdpk would be a good short sogger - it has a nice thick sog stem. The kali mist that I have forms a nice bush on its own and doesnt need to be topped - however it would not be a good sogger. Aight then.

[Have a Cigar]

I think the kali mist has an indica phenotype, somewhere there was a discussion on it.

[FUNKNUGGET]

actually kali mist is 100% sativa

[tomasinho]

These pics are from day 13 of flower (day 20 of 12/12). The clones that were labeled Kali Mist (by the guy I got them from) look very indicaish to me. Maybe its an indica pheno? Kali Mist from serious is 70sat/30indica. I will show better pics of these ladies soon I swear. I was in a hurry so I just snapped a quick few. My crazy ass schedule keeps me from spending as much time in that room as I would like. The top three are all Kali Mist. The bottom is a cool pic I took of c. elegans under the microscope. The blown up version looks cool. Looks like next grow will be either Dannyboy, Satori, Kalichakra, or Hashberry.

[Have a Cigar]

Nice buds, are your temps low enough to go purple? This plant went crazy purple on me and my lows at night are like ~45 ish at the lowest. Oh yeah and im harvesting in about 5 or so days! the buds didnt get too big but very resinous with an awesome cherry flavor and lemony sweet diesel scent.

[tomasinho]

I dont think it'll be cold enough for them to turn purple in my room. My room gets down to about 60 at night and a high of 72 during the day. They are looking beautiful though - frost all over the leaves. The SDkush are starting to develop a small cola but I think the yield will not be that high. Oddly, the small Kali Mists will probably yield way more - and they are about a foot shorter! I have two lights in there now - a 250HPS is sitting over the shorter plants (KM) and the 400 is over the taller ones. Growing these two together was a logistical error. Only one strain in a table from now on! They changed a lot in the past couple of days - pics soon!

[latewood]

NIce job...Nice buds, Nice reasoning. goodluck, can't wait to see how you progress.

[tomasinho]

Thanks for the nice comments everyone! These pics are from 21 days flowering. First 2 on the top are Kali Mist. Last one on top and first one on bottom are SD x PK. These are first amateur bud porn shots.
Small - KM smells sweet and spicy. The SDPK smells pretty much like lemony diesel fuel . Enjoy!

[Matt the Funk]

They're looking pretty nice. Good job.

[tomasinho]

New pics! Top left and center are Kali Mist, top right is a side shot of my kali mist harem, bottom left shows you why not to grow 2 different strains in an ebb and flow table (and how to fix it if you do), bottom right is sour diesel x pure kush. Does anyone know how to use kool bloom with the lucas method using GH? I was also thinking about trying some Humbolts County's Own Gravity hardner. Any info on how to use it? I cant afford an EC meter now so please just give ml/gallon - thanks.

[tomasinho]

Just had to add one more pic - this one is Kali Mist - notice the trichromes filling out the undersides of the leaves on only day 27 flowering. I recommend these genetics to anyone! A nice squat crystally sativa. Yummy!

[Matt the Funk]

Looking awesome dude, how long is th flowering time?

[tomasinho]

Flowering time is 8 - 10 weeks for both strains. Hopefully they will both act right and be done around the same time!

[Cyclonite]

Nice...I see rockwool and hydro ton but no lines. What method are you using? Are you in Ca as well? With the lucas I believe you just add in additives like normal...looks good.

[tomasinho]

I am using ebb and flow. By lines do you mean drip lines? Yes - I am in CA. There's a lot of us Cali growers on here huh? I guess we like to grow it up on the west coast. Your grow looks good too!

[alwayssleepdeprived]

Sweet grow it's always nice to see crystals forming way out on the end of leaves ;-) I'm 2 weeks into flowering and I just saw my first pistil so I'd say yours are smokin

[Have a Cigar]

Looks pro dude. Heres a little nug of mine :D

[Matt the Funk]

Saw you rplant in orangemans thread. Plants buds looking nice and fat. HOpefully you get a fat harvest.

[tomasinho]

Thanks! I am excited too! I dont think my yield will be super high b/c they are little lanky sativas but I think the herbs will be dank.

[Weedhound]

Hey I'm in CA too. Are you in the north or the south? Great grow Tom....and super photos of log showing progression of growth. I'll be back to see how things go. :)

[Cornelius]

dude that plant is looking beautiful, and I am quite tempted to try it out myself. I'd definitely have to scrog it to fit in my cabinet, but do you think it would take well to that?

I'm growing a northern lights cross but I do love sativa smoke, and your plant looks great

-p

[tomasinho]

These pics are all of the sour diesel kush cross at day 38 flowering. The pistils are starting to turn a nice dark orange accompanied by a purplish hue to the buds. The last pic shows a profile of the plant - the buds look good but not a big yielder for its height. The cross leans more to the diesel side - by that I mean lanky and reeking of lemons and fuel.

[tomasinho]

These are all Kali Mist at day 38 flowering. The plant by the door pic is the exact same plant shown in earlier photos in this thread - I put the pic in for reference.

Cornelius - I am growing these from clones I picked up near LA - I flowered them when they were short and they did not stretch much - you might find this pheno in a pack of seeds but if you live in socal you could probably find this clone...I dont know if I can put that info on here or not. I dont know how they would do in scrog - but they would be good in sog for sure.

Thanks for the nice comments everyone!

[alwayssleepdeprived]

Hey Tomas your grow is coming along beautifully ;-) I got a couple questions for ya though...

In one of your posts you said you were at day 13 flower day 20 of 12/12 was it 13 days from when you could see pistils or something?

And what size light are you using...I'm not sure if you posted it somewhere but I was wondering how many watts was givin you those results

Good job and keep em buddin

[tomasinho]

ASD - I am using two lights. A 400W is sitting over the taller plants and a 250 is sitting over the shorter plants. The lighting in there is kindof a pain in the ass b/c the strains have about a foot of height difference - there is a pic earlier in this thread. I like to count flowering when I first see pistils - not when I go to 12/12. The reason is - I have found that some strains take longer to show pistils than others. Some strains take a couple days - others take a few weeks. For some reason, these two strains started flowering about the same time - about one week after 12/12 - so I just started counting flowering then. I have found that counting the days of flowering when I first see pistils helps me get a better estimate of how many days the plant has actually been producing flowers - which in turn gives me a better sense of when they will need to be chopped.

[alwayssleepdeprived]

Ahhh cool that's what I was figuring actually just wanted to make sure I understood you correctly...I'm at 22 in 12/12 and I guess about 10 days after showing pistils...I'm using just one 400 watter and have the same problem one plant is like 33inches tall and the other is only like 18-20 so I have the light at an angle facing the corner covered in mylar to try and help but ehh...next grow will be much better as the clones I choose to go with should all be about the same height...

Great work though yer gonna get a huge yield from the look of em

[tomasinho]

Im thinking they need about 1 more week of nutes and then a five day flush. Just started some Humbolts Own Gravity flower hardener on them and have been using liquid Kool Bloom for the last 10 days or so. The trichs are clouding up really nicely - the diesel is finishing a bit quicker than the Kali Mist. Looks like they will both be in the harvest window at the 8 week mark. The leaves are fading nicely - many of the diesel leaves have turned purple. The first two pics are Kali Mist and the last is pure diesel kush. The full size pics look way better than the thumbs. Peace.

[alwayssleepdeprived]

They are riveling the sparkle of diamonds with all those crystals...I hope all the trichs kick up yer final weight...those pics are ideally what I'm shooting for my girls to look like...I'm finally seeing some whiteness spreading to the leaves on the main buds...I'm thinking about the same flush time as well I don't know from experience but it doesn't seem like a much longer flush would help any what ppm did you get up to?

[tomasinho]

Well - I am going to tell you my opinion but some people think otherwise. I believe

[tomasinho]

Sorry - Im frazzled. Here is my edit.
Well - I am going to tell you my opinion but some people think otherwise. I believe that if your are using a flushing product usually the flush is about 3-5 days and I would say dont flush with pure water - you will kill many of the cells by unfavorable osmosis conditions within the plant. During flush, you mainly want to get the ass tasting nitrogen out of the plant.
I have a cool idea for you that you might like to check out on your first grow - it will really help you in your future exploration of cannabis---you should cut off some small buds really early - just one or two-and smoke them. I usually use the microwave to dry them and see where they are at. I think its important to a cannabis grower to know what a 35 day bud tastes like and feels like vs. a 45 day bud or a 54 day bud. Now that you have the opportunity with you own buds, try some not so done shit just for the purpose of really getting to know the plant. It will make you more knowledgeable about the effects of your weed and weed in general. I actually have - I know this is nerdy-a weed smoking by strand journal where the effects are listed down for many of the strains that I have tried.
Oh my god - I am so incredibly stoned. Viva california.

[bongerstonerd00d]

Looking great, Tom. Yeah, trying to grow two diff strains in same system is tuff especially when you get a foot diff in height.

Same reason people growing from bagseed get some logistical nightmare. All kinds of weird pheno's to deal with. One grows to 6 foot, other barely makes it to 3.......ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Need to use 6000 yards of string to have shit all tied down trying to keep even, etc.......I am getting another headache even pondering growing from bagseed........

Makes it nice when ya got moms. You can damn near predict to the exact inch the height they will get just by looking at ya notes. Get this grow DONE......will ya. Cant wait to read on the Danny grow. I will be crackin his cuzin come fall (Vortex).

Growin it green,
b0nger

[tomasinho]

Well bonger, you wont have to wait much longer to see danny around - I just started flushing these ladies today. The kush should be done in about 3-5 days and the Kali Mist will take about 7-10. Cant wait to chop this crop and move danny in - I am looking for a good momma to run for the next year or two - so you will probably be sick of danny in no time! Peace.

[Matt the Funk]

You harvest the kush yet? be sure to post smoke report,final wieght, pics, etc...i've been following your grow since the begining and it seems like it went pretty good. Congrats.

[latewood]

I get a kick out of it...when I read...oh it's a sativa...not a big yielder. I have always gotten bigger yields from sativa phenol. The difference isn't the yield as much as bud sites spread a bit more when young, but then load up and fill in with bulk. anyway. Goodluck

[tomasinho]

Happy Easter! The sour diesel kush was chopped this weekend. The night before harvest, the plants presented with 50/50 clear/cloudy trichomes. The finished plants have a smell very similar to sour skittles candy. I did not smoke any of the buds yet but I did manage to smoke some scissor hash which really blew me away. Also - I did not weigh it yet but I am guestimating the yield to be around 4 ounces dry. The Kali Mist will be done in a few days so there is still more to come.

[latewood]

nice job

[LOC NAR on probation]

Awsome, I can almost smell it from here. LOL

[bongerstonerd00d]

TOM........well done, bro <golf clap> Get the jars ready:D :D




b0nger

[Matt the Funk]

Looks good man.

[alwayssleepdeprived]

Thanks for the advice about flushing and trying different age buds...the pic with all the clothes pins looks delicious...Have you had a chance to try any of the finished product yet?

Enjoy the crop man I hope you hit yer 4z mark

[Weedhound]

I want some!!! That really does look delicious! :thumbsup:

[whitestalkslongwalks]

well done; just a nice job all around; right from the start, to manicuring

[tomasinho]

Thanks for the comments guys! I appreciate you guys checking out my grow and giving me encouragement! These pics are of Kali Mist that was harvested yesterday. These buds are shorter and much denser than the sour kush. They smell like strong indian floral incense. I think I got about 2.5 - 3oz of this stuff. Have smoked the scissor hash as the buds arent ready yet and oh my lord. Anyway - I will post a yeild and smoke report later. The dannyboy report will start up soon - seedlings are already in the works. Also - I might give banana kush a good run while the dannyboy matures.

Weedhound - did you read the post I made about the gravity hardener on ASD's thread?

Grow it up yall!

[Matt the Funk]

I really recommend banana kush...I got some from one of the dispensaries and let me just say....one of the best most enjoyable highs i've had.