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Markass
02-20-2007, 05:23 AM
the two biggest are about a week old..smaller one is just like one day old. Bucket contains four more seedlings.. using 26w CFL's at the moment..got a 250 HPS that I'm going to use in a couple weeks for them.

blank_21
02-20-2007, 09:47 AM
Looking good d00d
I hear blueberry is great, im growing bubblegum myself :jointsmile:

Markass
02-20-2007, 08:53 PM
Here's the biggest one today..

HARDDON
02-21-2007, 01:57 AM
Remember you will only retain the dark hues and hilights of that strain with mid 50's flower temps. Blueberry is very good, but will be best at low flowering temps.

JackdaWack
02-21-2007, 04:18 AM
intreasting who has that kinda cooling power?

Markass
02-21-2007, 04:29 AM
intreasting who has that kinda cooling power?

haha, I wish I did. I would have a 400hps in my closet rather than 250. Temps are getting up near 80 during the day in closet now...getting near 70 outside..not all cold.

HARDDON
02-21-2007, 01:06 PM
FOr the ARTEEST growers, you should grow those strains indoors during the winter months with fresh outside air coming inside. This will enable the lower temps easily.

Temperature monitoring for this is a real pain in the ass, but again, for the connisuer, it's the art. And the colors you will get are amazing.

Difficult, but not impossible. Why else grow these color rich strains?

Markass
02-22-2007, 01:52 AM
Difficult, but not impossible. Why else grow these color rich strains?

connoisseur*?


to smoke it?

HARDDON
02-22-2007, 05:30 AM
[QUOTE=Markass;1269160


to smoke it?[/QUOTE]

Then buy a strain that does not depend upon environmentals that you cannot provide for.

Blueberry and other purple strains need to be cool to get the full genetic potential released and thus be the best they can be.

Scarlet Sky
02-22-2007, 05:34 AM
not doubting, hardon, but where in the world did you hear that? i'm asking as a blueberry grower, three harvests with that particular strain. got blue's and purps at 80f day and 74f night temps. absolutely fantastic blueberry smell and taste after cure, very couching...

i'd love to know about the temp/potential thing...

Sky :abduct:

Markass
02-22-2007, 07:34 PM
Then buy a strain that does not depend upon environmentals that you cannot provide for.

Blueberry and other purple strains need to be cool to get the full genetic potential released and thus be the best they can be.


...I didn't buy this, the seeds were sent by a good friend of mine.

So you're saying that growing a purple strain is pointless for anyone who cannot provide an intricately managed environment for it? My friend, I think you're wrong, and I believe that getting a purple phenotype is just luck. Cause sorry friend, I'm not going to put an air conditioner in my closet just so my blueberry plants can be purple...either they're purple or they're not. The color means nothing to me, I just want to grow these plants.

haha, sorry I've tarnished the name of the blueberry strain by not giving it the full genetic potential that it could've released. :S4:

PatrickHenry
02-22-2007, 07:49 PM
...I didn't buy this, the seeds were sent by a good friend of mine.

So you're saying that growing a purple strain is pointless for anyone who cannot provide an intricately managed environment for it? My friend, I think you're wrong, and I believe that getting a purple phenotype is just luck. Cause sorry friend, I'm not going to put an air conditioner in my closet just so my blueberry plants can be purple...either they're purple or they're not. The color means nothing to me, I just want to grow these plants.

haha, sorry I've tarnished the name of the blueberry strain by not giving it the full genetic potential that it could've released. :S4:

kick back. he's just saying that most people expect the vibrant colors and those colors come with lower temperatures. don't get all butt hurt about it!

Markass
02-22-2007, 08:22 PM
kick back. he's just saying that most people expect the vibrant colors and those colors come with lower temperatures. don't get all butt hurt about it!

Not getting butthurt.

"Then buy a strain that does not depend upon environmentals that you cannot provide for."

I found that to be an unnecessary statement was all.

Markass
02-22-2007, 08:30 PM
Here an update is...

KL4D4
02-22-2007, 08:53 PM
Just flower it over night when it gets cold outside leave a window open it'd be pretty easy to acomplish

kindprincess
02-23-2007, 01:06 AM
looks like the leaf twisting is going to start soon. classic trait of blueberry. and btw, most blueberry pheno's will NEVER turn blue or purp. the may keep a dark hue to the leaves, but for the most part have vibrant green and neon orange buds. would you like a pic? as far as providing for environmentals, temps in the 70's is ideal, so why lower them to the point of stress? seems counter productive to me.

you just keep doing what you do mark "thumbsup:

Markass
02-23-2007, 03:02 AM
thanks kp. yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing a few more pics..just give me more of an idea of what to expect. :greenthumb:

kindprincess
02-23-2007, 03:19 AM
mark, i'm going to have to find my other memory card. here's some i had on hand...

Markass
02-23-2007, 03:27 AM
mark, i'm going to have to find my other memory card. here's some i had on hand...

k. yeah, hoping for good results from these. planning to LST all three and top them once.

Markass
02-26-2007, 12:02 AM
Had some camera troubles and had to take it back to exchange it, but here's an update..two biggest plants are nearly two weeks already...smaller one is just at six days. Starting to pick up their growth some :D

Markass
02-28-2007, 03:23 AM
Here's pics from today...

undertheinfluence
02-28-2007, 06:12 AM
i think that what harddon is talking about is growing blueberry and purple strains outdoors. if you do this, the cold temps. slow the growth and turn the leaves different colors depending on the strain in hand, making more resin and prettier plants. i think there is a beautiful picture of what i am talking about in this months "High Times"
just a guess though....

Tomthehippie
02-28-2007, 09:36 AM
Cool grow man! got some blueberry on the go to.

kindprincess you said its a classic trait of blueberry to have twisted leaves. Can this also start in young seeds? as iv noticed the same trait in 5 of my own. also the seedlings with twisted leaves are growing slower. I assumed the seedlings were week and im thinking bout removing them from the op.

TheGreenFog
02-28-2007, 04:14 PM
Hey, Markass. Glad you got a grow going now. Seems you're quite passionate about the subject from reading your posts, so I'm glad you can now grow. It's definitely rewarding.

Those plants are looking good, man. Starting out great! KP is the Blueberry expert up in here, so take her words, fo sho. Sup KP.

Damn, I miss Blueberry. Been a WHILE since I've had a toke. :(

:D

Good luck, Markass.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

xcrispi
02-28-2007, 04:32 PM
Cool grow man! got some blueberry on the go to.

kindprincess you said its a classic trait of blueberry to have twisted leaves. Can this also start in young seeds? as iv noticed the same trait in 5 of my own. also the seedlings with twisted leaves are growing slower. I assumed the seedlings were week and im thinking bout removing them from the op.

Hey Tom ,
The blueberry I had w/ twisted leaves did it right from the start .
At first I thought the Mrs. gave the seed halves a lil help instead of letting them fall off on their own . Every set of leaves was this way though . There's a pic. of it in Stinkys mutant thread .

Markass - keep up the good work bro . those lil fat indica dom. leaves look sweet !!
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

kindprincess
02-28-2007, 07:53 PM
tom the hippie; twisted and warped leaves are a classic trait of the blueberry strain. they may go through a one week lag, but they grow out of it. it's generally seen in the first set of true leaves, and even in the first pair above the cotyledons.

i don't know why this strain has that quirky characteristic, but it's seen in all of my beanlings and small clones. it doesn't affect the plant, and should not be stressed over; it will go away with time.

aww, f<r>og! you give me way too much credit babe ;) luv you too.

and of course, i'm not going to leave out my most scariest pitt ever... hi crispi! :p

love, kp

Tomthehippie
02-28-2007, 09:23 PM
Thanks KP! sorry for wondering of the line of your thread Markass! Thanks :)

Markass
02-28-2007, 09:43 PM
Hey, Markass. Glad you got a grow going now. Seems you're quite passionate about the subject from reading your posts, so I'm glad you can now grow. It's definitely rewarding.

Those plants are looking good, man. Starting out great! KP is the Blueberry expert up in here, so take her words, fo sho. Sup KP.

Damn, I miss Blueberry. Been a WHILE since I've had a toke. :(

:D

Good luck, Markass.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

Yeah man, I'm very excited...I think I've got all of the missing links that I've been lacking the previous couple of tries..Thanks a lot :thumbsup: :stoned:

Markass
02-28-2007, 09:44 PM
sorry for wondering of the line of your thread Markass!

no worries :thumbsup:

TheGreenFog
02-28-2007, 11:58 PM
Yeah man, I'm very excited...I think I've got all of the missing links that I've been lacking the previous couple of tries..Thanks a lot :thumbsup: :stoned:

Cool, man. Yea, keep your i's dotted and your t's crossed. It's not that hard, with all the info out there.


Be cool. Sent ya some rep. Enjoy your third little rep block. You deserve it man.



The Fog :rastasmoke:

Markass
03-02-2007, 03:57 AM
Haven't grown too much, but here's one from when I watered today.

Markass
03-02-2007, 08:04 PM
Here they are today..You can see from a couple of pics the twisted leaf bit I believe that k/p was talking about but they're doing great :thumbsup:

tybeet
03-02-2007, 10:04 PM
Looking real healthy so far. How far have you been keeping the light from the plants recently? I don't even see it in the past few shots.

Markass
03-03-2007, 02:42 AM
Looking real healthy so far. How far have you been keeping the light from the plants recently? I don't even see it in the past few shots.

Using a 26w CFL above each plant...mostly have to remove them to take pics. Sunday I've decided will be when I fire up my 250HPS..I'll be able to monitor temps cause it's my day off. thanks for the comments :thumbsup:

Scarlet Sky
03-03-2007, 02:59 AM
nice, plump and healthy! looking great marc... i see what you mean about the twisted leaf trait...they look....twisted :D

Sky :abduct:

Markass
03-03-2007, 03:27 AM
nice, plump and healthy! looking great marc... i see what you mean about the twisted leaf trait...they look....twisted :D

Sky :abduct:

thanks! yeah, newer leaves don't seem to be showing it though so maybe they've grown out of it.:stoned:

Markass
03-03-2007, 09:45 PM
Fired up HPS today when I got off of work...Plants are doing good still and I hope that they take off and are mighty happy with this plentiful source of light :stoned: Internode growth is picking up on the smaller ones and bigger one is really starting on it..:thumbsup:

BigWeed
03-05-2007, 05:30 PM
Hey markass just checking out the grow man they sure look nice I have some hindu kush seedlings and couple of blueberry seedlings and some k2 seedlings going also along with my white widow clones. My seedlings 2 weeks old now. I hope to put my tent back together this weekend If Im not to busy.:rastasmoke: :rasta:

xxxhazexxx
03-05-2007, 06:41 PM
they are looking top noch markass keep up the good work dude well done:thumbsup:

ericwt
03-06-2007, 05:21 AM
Nice grow you got. I love blueberry!

Markass
03-06-2007, 07:36 PM
Plants are doing fine..smallest one seems to have slowed growth for some reason...hopefully it'll catch up with the rest..gonna deal with the fungus gnats as soon as I can get some pesticide.

Markass
03-06-2007, 07:51 PM
pics

Markass
03-09-2007, 03:30 AM
been having a couple of issues, hopefully I'll get them resolved..gave plants diluted nute-water tonight...hoping that it's what my babies are lacking...this is my third growing attempt and third time's usually a charm..

Tomthehippie
03-09-2007, 08:03 AM
how far in are they now? just over 3 weeks? :)

Markass
03-09-2007, 01:05 PM
start times were 2/12(pic 4), 2/14(pic 3), and 2/19(pic 2)...

MOBABN
03-09-2007, 04:05 PM
good shit man lookin very nice. You plan to LST ??? Those would look so good as a bush!!! :thumbsup:

Markass
03-09-2007, 07:40 PM
good shit man lookin very nice. You plan to LST ??? Those would look so good as a bush!!! :thumbsup:

have almost no choice but to bro...look at fifth pic in most recent update...that's the space I've got...I can go about two or three more feet up maybe with the light...but definitely gonna tie em down and try to keep them pretty low...actually growing space is like 35 wide and 62 high...not too much room but it'll be good practice for LST..thanks for the comments :thumbsup:

Markass
03-09-2007, 09:13 PM
I'm teaching a friend of mine the basics to growing...Here are three cotton candy x something..they're some beans a good friend of mine sent...was stoned and somehow forgot to take pic of the bb seedling...but he disregarded my advice and gave them nutes a while back and burned the shit out of them...this is his first grow and I'm helping him...but he's not helping himself by disregarding advice...

Markass
03-10-2007, 03:54 AM
Gonna top the biggest one tomorrow...It's 9 inches tall and has seven sets of developed leaves...pics indicate where I'm cutting..it's right above seventh set.

Markass
03-11-2007, 01:52 AM
topped it just now...hoping it does it a lot of good :thumbsup:

Markass
03-13-2007, 04:51 AM
got 10' of flex duct from the hardware store today before I went to work...got home tonight and improvised...this is what I came up with to bring my air down from the attic to my grow space...I don't have any exhaust really except for my door being cracked and it allows for a bit of air to flow from it..but with at least a bit of air coming from my attic that helps keep it pretty cool...

I had a hell of a time figuring out a way to put the small fan to where it would blow air into the duct...as you can see that I used supplement jug..anyone got some advice on how to improvise a way to get fan to the end of a duct and blowing through? I'm using small household fans..I would like to create a duct for exhaust, but am stumped right now on how to affix a fan..anyone got an idea I'm open for suggestions on that part..thanks :thumbsup:

Weedhound
03-13-2007, 05:02 AM
MA are those leaf edges curling down? You say you just got that light. how far away is it? Maybe it's just the photo...?

Markass
03-13-2007, 05:14 AM
MA are those leaf edges curling down? You say you just got that light. how far away is it? Maybe it's just the photo...?

yes, weedhound some of them seem to be curling and getting upside down canoe look...I would believe it's from room temps. Light's a good 18 inches away from this one...I'm doing what I can to stabilize temps to around or hopefully below 80...for a couple hours during the daytime it gets up to 85 I believe..but lights go out soon after that..

first pic is my oldest plant...leaves at the top are curling hardcore..? I just topped it a couple days ago...second pic is the one that you were asking about...a better pic of it I just took.

light's a good 12-15 inches away from the plant in first pic there..

Weedhound
03-13-2007, 05:19 AM
You might try pulling your light back just a touch for a few days until they get used to the new lighting.......hps is a big step above your original lighting....I have some new seedlings I just stuck in my hydro and can't use my light on them yet....mh1kw.....even from about 4 feet....have to edge it in bits at a time or they get heat stressed even though room temp is good. . Are they perked up in the morning? Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Markass
03-13-2007, 05:24 AM
You might try pulling your light back just a touch for a few days until they get used to the new lighting.......hps is a big step above your original lighting....I have some new seedlings I just stuck in my hydro and can't use my light on them yet....mh1kw.....even from about 4 feet....have to edge it in bits at a time or they get heat stressed even though room temp is good. . Are they perked up in the morning? Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

I've had this HPS running for several days now..they've actually grown quite a bit. as for perkyness..sometimes in the day they nearly droop plum over..like they're tired or something...but couple hours later they're fine. I share the concern with heat though..bigtime. I've had hermies last two tries because of heat I would say..I don't want that again. I'll be watching them closely..

Weedhound
03-13-2007, 05:27 AM
Well I'll check in for future updates...hope it goes well for you. Afraid I can't help with the exhaust thing.....brainless in that dept. :jointsmile:

Markass
03-13-2007, 05:36 AM
Well I'll check in for future updates...hope it goes well for you. Afraid I can't help with the exhaust thing.....brainless in that dept. :jointsmile:

thanks weedhound..yeah, me too..plants are kinda starting to worry me..I don't want to fuck up another grow..weed's much too hard to find around here. Hopefully I can do what I need to to keep them happy :thumbsup: :stoned:

BigWeed
03-13-2007, 05:37 AM
I've had this HPS running for several days now..they've actually grown quite a bit. as for perkyness..sometimes in the day they nearly droop plum over..like they're tired or something...but couple hours later they're fine. I share the concern with heat though..bigtime. I've had hermies last two tries because of heat I would say..I don't want that again. I'll be watching them closely..

Hey markass Im having that same problem with my seedlings They do just fine with the lights off and for a few hours with lights on and bam they droop. I think it maybe the lights because I did increase the wattage in that closet and some of the plants look like they are doing fine and adjusting I hope the other ones come around soon.:rastasmoke: :hippy:

Oh yeah your plants look awesome.

Markass
03-14-2007, 01:45 AM
scrapped that duct...wasn't moving enough air...gonna place an order for one of these..6 In. 110VAC 250CFM In-Line Duct Fan. Should displace enough air to make me happy..and significantly better once I can get a cool tube.

within the next couple days..I get paid tomorrow. gonna run a 6" duct with that fan at the top in my attic access..coming from my growspace...then I'm hoping to get a cool tube to connect the duct to soon...but for now just gonna have it down pulling air out..that should work for me.

Weedhound
03-14-2007, 03:42 AM
In-line duct fan worked wonders for me! Worth every penny. :thumbsup:

Tomthehippie
03-14-2007, 09:34 AM
Sounds Good Man! :D

Markass
03-14-2007, 08:13 PM
bent the plants over today...gonna order duct fan and go to home depot saturday to get duct. then hopefully in a couple weeks or less I can get a cooltube ordered :thumbsup:

Weedhound
03-14-2007, 10:06 PM
Growin' good it looks like. :thumbsup:

Pezzo
03-15-2007, 07:20 PM
lookin kwl m8, id try to sort those leaves speedy. I havent actually read ur thread jus scanned it...

How much u watering? Mine was overwaterd

Markass
03-15-2007, 07:48 PM
thanks bro..I was thinking heat but I'll back off on the water and see what it does.:thumbsup:

Markass
03-15-2007, 08:03 PM
here's some pics

Markass
03-16-2007, 04:04 AM
pic...

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-16-2007, 05:09 AM
Wow Markass, just had to stop in and say hi to my fave jailbait.:D
I'm impressed with your dedication man. Your babes are looking healthy and happy. I can't wait to see your finished results.:thumbsup:

Markass
03-19-2007, 03:16 AM
Hmm...leaves that were above the first two petals of the plant..are dying off...maybe a slight nute burn too? Not sure cause the rest of the plant doesn't have any leaves like that...just dying off? Well they're doing good, I'm going to flower them within a few days..about that time :thumbsup:

other pic is clear joint I rolled and me and my bro smoked it earlier...trippy to watch the smoke inside of it :stoned: :thumbsup:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-19-2007, 04:55 AM
Not nute burn. Deficiency. How's your pH?

junkboxer
03-19-2007, 06:24 AM
markass, what are you feeding your plants and whats the schedule? id like to compare it to how im going to do mine. i got a blueberry plant in my garden as well. my nutes didnt come in the mail yet but in a few days ill have the whole fox farm line with superthrive as well. if you look through my recent threads ull see my plants arent doing as good as yours at all but theyve been put through some stress since this is my first indoor grow.

Markass
03-19-2007, 08:14 PM
Not nute burn. Deficiency. How's your pH?

umm..no way to measure it at this moment...I've been forking a lot of cash over to get this ventilation squared away...a lot more than I planned. Noticed some pricey digital ph meters on the web...anyone know of a cheap way to measure PH..?

junkboxer, how old are your plants? I began giving mine nutes when they were maybe three weeks I want to say..schultz all purpose 15-30-15...They get maybe 12-14 ounces of water each every 60 hours..about 1/4 teaspoon..maybe a bit less of schultz per feeding in their water.

Pezzo
03-20-2007, 05:18 PM
umm..no way to measure it at this moment...I've been forking a lot of cash over to get this ventilation squared away...a lot more than I planned. Noticed some pricey digital ph meters on the web...anyone know of a cheap way to measure PH..?


ha, same.

Local garden center, get a umm one that u mix wiv water lol i forget what it is.
Bout £5

MedusaGrower
03-20-2007, 08:54 PM
Sucking air in from the attic might not be the best idea, since attics usually contain hot stale air.

xcrispi
03-20-2007, 09:08 PM
Sucking air in from the attic might not be the best idea, since attics usually contain hot stale air.

I'd be willing to bet Markass is going to be pushing the hot stale air from the closet into the attic , not vise versa . :wtf:
Peace M
Looking good so far.
Crispi :jointsmile:

MedusaGrower
03-21-2007, 12:57 AM
He said he was pulling the air in from the attic.

Weedhound
03-21-2007, 02:07 AM
If those brown edges aren't spreading on your leaves I'd call it light burn....wow and who was it that said pull your light back.......:p

Markass
03-21-2007, 02:10 AM
He said he was pulling the air in from the attic.

That may have been what I was going to do..but things have changed since then...using 6" in-line duct fan and 6" duct to push air into attic..:thumbsup:

Markass
03-21-2007, 02:15 AM
If those brown edges aren't spreading on your leaves I'd call it light burn....wow and who was it that said pull your light back.......:p

Yeah, I'd say that may be what it was...plants are getting along good...don't have a piece of metal ducting that I can use to connect collar and fan..:( gonna have to wait a couple more days to finish this project

btw, thanks for helping me out.. ;) you rock weedhound :thumbsup:

Markass
03-21-2007, 03:25 AM
Here's an update...sprayed some 'garden safe houseplant and garden insect spray' today on all of them...you can kinda see the glossy stuff still on some of the leaves. I want to make sure I don't have any pests...the ones I've seen I haven't liked. Plants are growing well...and within a few days, I should be sure of the sex..pre-flowers seem to be popping out closer to the tops. Should be ordering my cool tube tomorrow too :thumbsup: :stoned:

Scarlet Sky
03-21-2007, 03:27 AM
did you spray the undersides?

from the looks of the leaves, i'd say it's mites, but too soon to be sure

Markass
03-21-2007, 04:22 AM
did you spray the undersides?

from the looks of the leaves, i'd say it's mites, but too soon to be sure

scarlet, I was weary of getting too much of it on me and didn't pay close attention to the undersides, but I doused the plants and sprayed a good layer on top of the soil. They were dripping good, and I would hope that any insect fucker that's in there is now dead or will soon be..stuff's still on the leaves after it's dried out..gives it a shiny look kinda..I'm hoping it'll go away? thanks..

Weedhound
03-21-2007, 02:46 PM
DROWN THOSE BASTARDS!!:thumbsup: KILL KILL KILL! Damn I hate bugs. Garden pests played a big part me in losing some outdoor plants last year. KILL THEM ALL!

Markass
03-22-2007, 02:25 AM
got duct fan and everything put in today..finally :thumbsup: seems to be good about removing hot air that sticks around down in my growspace...bank should update tomorrow, then I'll get cool tube ordered :D can't wait for it...:stoned:

Pezzo
03-22-2007, 04:33 PM
leaves look like mine!

Markass
03-23-2007, 02:20 AM
from today...seeing female preflowers on 2/3 of them. ordered cool tube tonight from Texas Hydroponics (http://www.texashydroponics.com) should be here in the next few days...plants smell delightful..can't wait to get them flowering and see what they do :stoned: :thumbsup:

ballastman
03-23-2007, 02:45 AM
One thing I can say definatelt about the blueberry strain is if there are any spidermites within the atmosphere,they will find the blueberry.One grow 5 years ago and one just a couple months ago both produced spidermites,both dutch passion.I get them occasionally not really very often,this time I had 4 strains going and only blueberry was affected first.I was wondering about it,did a google check,verified it is indeed a mite fuckfest.I keep my room clean to folks it just happens with the strain so much more often then with others.Of course a no pest strip and the problem is history in 48 hours normally

Markass
03-23-2007, 03:06 AM
I haven't scrutinized to search for them...but I've looked over them rather thoroughly..and it seems like they're gone...if not in a couple weeks I'll spray down again..and might even do it for the hell of it..don't want bugs fucking with my flowers.

ballastman
03-23-2007, 04:10 AM
I didnt read the whole thread man just the first couple pages,you'll know by the tiny whitish dots they leave on the leaves when they suck the moisture out.If you have a scope check on the underside of the leaves along the main vein,if you have spidermites you will see eggs there

Bree1978
03-23-2007, 12:47 PM
I really like the log, markass. Hope you get your spidermite problem worked out.

:jointsmile: Bree

Markass
03-23-2007, 01:24 PM
I really like the log, markass. Hope you get your spidermite problem worked out.

:jointsmile: Bree

Bree, I believe all of them to be gone...I've inspected a couple of the undersides of leaves...no eggs or anything of sort visible..I think I'm good. Really gave me a scare..nothing like some fucking pests to ruin all my hard work..

That garden safe stuff seemed to work good. :thumbsup:

hayze21
03-23-2007, 02:09 PM
Here's pics from today...


Hey Markass nice plants man hope they turn out well.....Was curious as to the the light fixtures ur using for them did u buy them online or picked them up at a local Home depot? Been searching all over and cant find them have all the cool blue bulbs i need just cant find the damn fixtures...lol

Markass
03-23-2007, 07:43 PM
Hey Markass nice plants man hope they turn out well.....Was curious as to the the light fixtures ur using for them did u buy them online or picked them up at a local Home depot? Been searching all over and cant find them have all the cool blue bulbs i need just cant find the damn fixtures...lol

if you're talking about the one with the CFL in it right there...it's a clamp light with the reflector removed. You can get them for around $10 or so at a hardware store probably..

Weedhound
03-23-2007, 07:56 PM
I get them on one of my outdoor trees every year....just one tree they like and it's about 7 feet high. If I'm not out there once a week (as often as directions say I can) spraying and fighting them off I have seen them eat and destroy EVERY leaf on that tree within a month. The most destructive little bastards I have ever seen. And the little fuckers come back EVERY year. 5 years in a row. But no, I'm not bitter.

I live in fear for my indoor grow but haven't seen them yet...knock on wood.

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-23-2007, 11:02 PM
Go get 'em Markass!

Markass
03-24-2007, 03:12 AM
pics...showing either my N deficiency or problem with PH..or both :( and some of my weird burns...I've stepped up the nutes a bit and am thinking that may be it...but WTF...leaves are still yellowing..

Markass
03-24-2007, 03:17 AM
some more..

Weedhound
03-24-2007, 03:44 AM
Can you check your ph? And MA...this probably a stupid question but to cover all bases....you aren't getting those leaves wet with the hps on them are you? Even the bug spray should be put on away from direct light.....you probably knew this but just want to make sure.

Markass
03-24-2007, 03:58 AM
Can you check your ph? And MA...this probably a stupid question but to cover all bases....you aren't getting those leaves wet with the hps on them are you? Even the bug spray should be put on away from direct light.....you probably knew this but just want to make sure.

Umm...actually been meaning to go to the store and get a fish tank ph thingy...thanks to crispi for that one..:thumbsup: unfortunately no drainage holes..so I can't test runoff..but I will be getting to that as quickly as I can..

Sprayed them down with bug spray right after lights went out that day...I pour the water right down in the soil..none gets on the leaves..I have seen a couple spots and they're only white colored circles..from the water.

weedhound, don't know if I left rep message or not to you...but thanks bunches for helping me out..you really have no idea how much it helps me.:stoned: :thumbsup:

Weedhound
03-24-2007, 07:09 PM
Good, didn't think you were getting leaves wet; just trying to cover. How do you get by without drainage holes?

As Crispi so wisely said, you can use fish ph testers...pretty cheap; kind of a hassle but accurate; at least my fish think so.

Happy to help you out.....what goes around comes around. ;)

Markass
03-24-2007, 07:49 PM
Good, didn't think you were getting leaves wet; just trying to cover. How do you get by without drainage holes?

As Crispi so wisely said, you can use fish ph testers...pretty cheap; kind of a hassle but accurate; at least my fish think so.

Happy to help you out.....what goes around comes around. ;)

Thanks...no drainage holes...well, over 2 1/2 days in my closet, the 16 ounces of water my girls each get is mostly gone...Past two grows I have given about the same water and I've never had problems with excessive water remaining in the buckets.

pipesdrums
03-25-2007, 12:36 AM
Hmm...leaves that were above the first two petals of the plant..are dying off...maybe a slight nute burn too? Not sure cause the rest of the plant doesn't have any leaves like that...just dying off? Well they're doing good, I'm going to flower them within a few days..about that time :thumbsup:

other pic is clear joint I rolled and me and my bro smoked it earlier...trippy to watch the smoke inside of it :stoned: :thumbsup:

Ok. I registered to this site just to ask this question...What kind of papers (if it is paper..) did you use for that joint? I must know! :jointsmile:

Oh and nice grow too!

Markass
03-25-2007, 01:03 AM
Ok. I registered to this site just to ask this question...What kind of papers (if it is paper..) did you use for that joint? I must know! :jointsmile:

Oh and nice grow too!

lol, nice. This was a paper that I had someone give me a while back...clear papers..made from cellulose I believe. Tasteless..gives you a rather hard time when you try to seal it..no gum but they roll okay if you're experienced with it..

Aleda Paper (Clear Celulose) (http://www.pipesandcigars.com/alpacce.html) Just to show you...here is a link to some.

pipesdrums
03-25-2007, 02:14 AM
Cool, thanks for the link.

I wonder if I can find some anywhere around here.

Markass
03-25-2007, 05:05 AM
Cool, thanks for the link.

I wonder if I can find some anywhere around here.

if you've got a head shop near you, I'm sure they'll have some for you

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 05:25 AM
woooooooooT. Markass is awake. Come fly with me.

Scarlet Sky
03-25-2007, 05:48 AM
green, i realy need to talk to you...

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 05:50 AM
Hang on, I'm on Papi's box. I'm not sure if he ever downloaded yahoo.

Markass
03-25-2007, 06:10 AM
woooooooooT. Markass is awake. Come fly with me.

Let me hop into my flying shoes...and smoke a bowl :stoned: :thumbsup:

Markass
03-25-2007, 07:06 AM
another nasty leaf picture...I hope this isn't going to affect any of the flowers once they're on there..:( :stoned:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 07:13 AM
Did you flush yet?

exhashsmoker
03-25-2007, 01:55 PM
Nice grow dude! I figure this is the right thread to post my question.. Does blueberry smell like blueberrys? or does it smell a lot like marijuana. I wanna grow this strain if it has a low-ish marijuana oder.

Markass
03-25-2007, 03:53 PM
Did you flush yet?

as in...checking my ph?

Weedhound
03-25-2007, 04:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that's not an N problem MA. N def usually sucks the green from the entire leaf uniformly...not irregularly like that. I swear that looks like burn. Has to be ph....that's where I'm betting my cent and a half.

Markass
03-25-2007, 04:01 PM
Nice grow dude! I figure this is the right thread to post my question.. Does blueberry smell like blueberrys? or does it smell a lot like marijuana. I wanna grow this strain if it has a low-ish marijuana oder.

For the growing plants, I couldn't tell you. I can tell you what these three smell like right now...my closet door's cracked open several inches to allow free air movement into my closet and my entire room smells of a skunk..(a very good smell to me though)

In my opinion, you wouldn't get much of a blueberry smell until you've got some nice buds on it..I can personally tell you that after a couple weeks curing the bb smoke is quite fruity tasting and wonderful...As for odor dude...this is always the way I see it. The more of a smell that I'm dealing with, the more potent and better my buds are going to be. To grow something that isn't much of a smelly strain I think would give me weak smelling buds in the end. I want something that's going to pop my top when I open the jar and get a whif of it...As for the rest of the house, no...the smell mainly stays in my room as my door is shut most of the time.

here are the girls this morning...:thumbsup:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 04:05 PM
as in...checking my ph?
No, as in running a bunch of water through your pots to flush out excess salts and ickies. 3 to 1 ratio. For every 1 gallon of soil, run 3 gallons of water through the pot.

Weedhound
03-25-2007, 04:06 PM
Ickies! Now there's a word for you.:D

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 04:14 PM
LOL! I just woke up. I'm more than a little hungover.

exhashsmoker
03-25-2007, 04:15 PM
For the growing plants, I couldn't tell you. I can tell you what these three smell like right now...my closet door's cracked open several inches to allow free air movement into my closet and my entire room smells of a skunk..(a very good smell to me though)

In my opinion, you wouldn't get much of a blueberry smell until you've got some nice buds on it..I can personally tell you that after a couple weeks curing the bb smoke is quite fruity tasting and wonderful...As for odor dude...this is always the way I see it. The more of a smell that I'm dealing with, the more potent and better my buds are going to be. To grow something that isn't much of a smelly strain I think would give me weak smelling buds in the end. I want something that's going to pop my top when I open the jar and get a whif of it...As for the rest of the house, no...the smell mainly stays in my room as my door is shut most of the time.

here are the girls this morning...:thumbsup:

Thanks dude I totally agree! I would love to grow a really skunky strain but its just not possible where I live. Is your only ventilation the door being open? thats more than likely all I will have too with a fan blowing inside the cab!

Markass
03-25-2007, 04:16 PM
I'm pretty sure that's not an N problem MA. N def usually sucks the green from the entire leaf uniformly...not irregularly like that. I swear that looks like burn. Has to be ph....that's where I'm betting my cent and a half.

I've talked to crispi a bit about ph as I've indicted...like I've also indicted I have no drainage holes and would have a hell of a time testing the runoff...does this make it nearly impossible for me to get an accurate idea of my PH level? He said I may be able to get some of the soil out and make some muddy water to test..I was thinking the same thing..before leaves have yellowed and stuff but I can't recall them looking like this. Also from what I understand PH can be easily corrected with a couple common household items?

when you say burn what exactly do you mean? As for these random spots on the ends of my leaves...think this may be over nutes? I've read in some grow reports that bb can be rather sensitive to nutes..maybe I could use a BB expert like KP to speculate on that one..

I'm going to halt the nutes with every feeding and just give them a stronger dose..probably set it up at once a week.

First pic is of a plant that seems to actually maybe have a N def? second and third are weird maybe nute burns or something? those are the spots that are randomly on leaves...some on tips some on just the sides of leaves..I'm thinking over-nute but leme know what you think:stoned: :thumbsup:

Markass
03-25-2007, 04:20 PM
Thanks dude I totally agree! I would love to grow a really skunky strain but its just not possible where I live. Is your only ventilation the door being open? thats more than likely all I will have too with a fan blowing inside the cab!

It's my only source for new air...I've got a 6" in-line duct fan sucking air through about a 7' 6" duct..the duct within a couple days will be connected to a cool tube once it gets here..that will hopefully be my fool proof way of removing hot air from my closet. As for ventilation, that's all going to depend on your light mainly...as to how much heat will be dispersed into your space...I've got a 250HPS in a rather confined space..lots of heat. 85 degrees or so..absolutely nothing I can do about it right now my cool tube should fix that for me. Hopefully sometime soon you'll be able to get you a grow going...great hobby :thumbsup:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 04:21 PM
They are overferted. Why don't you have drainage holes?

Markass
03-25-2007, 04:24 PM
No, as in running a bunch of water through your pots to flush out excess salts and ickies. 3 to 1 ratio. For every 1 gallon of soil, run 3 gallons of water through the pot.

have you had similar problems and solved it by doing so? and my next question will be...if I remove my string from around the stems where I bent them a bit to expose lower buds...will they grow back normal or stay like they are? cause I'm gonna have to cut those and take my ladies outside to pop some holes into the buckets and do this flushing bit...lol, I believe these buckets are four gallon but I'm not quite sure..so that would be like 12 gallons of water?

Markass
03-25-2007, 04:26 PM
They are overferted. Why don't you have drainage holes?

Cause I just haven't used them in previous grows...the thing that I'm most conscious about is water and nutes for these flowers...have been the past two times and never had over fert problem..they have had two feedings since I've added a bit more to their water and I will move to once a week feeding them...I had been stepping it up because I believed it was N def..and wanted to get rid of that before they go into flower.

Weedhound
03-25-2007, 04:29 PM
Well to me burn could be due to a number of things. Overnute yes, incorrect ph causing lockout yes, light yes. The first pick does remind of N def but the irregular pattern on the others....I just don't know MA. I think asking KP is an excellent idea.

I agree with X-C that you can mix soil and water in cup and measure ph. Also you will be able to measure the ph of the water you are using before you water with it and adjust as necessary which will help keep your ph correct in the future. That is pretty much the end of my knowledge on soil and it isn't much. ;) I've tried to study soil methods but always seem to get caught up with words like.....ickies. :D

PS You probably already know this....don't use fish products to adjust ph....only the ph testers are ok. Apparently the ph adjusters for fish contain too many salts for plants. You can raise ph with baking soda and lower it with distilled white vinegar.

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 04:31 PM
Well you've definitely got an overfert issue. The leaves that feel papery? Classic. I'm not on my home puter, or I'd give you a link. Remind me to later.

Markass
03-25-2007, 04:37 PM
Well to me burn could be due to a number of things. Overnute yes, incorrect ph causing lockout yes, light yes. The first pick does remind of N def but the irregular pattern on the others....I just don't know MA. I think asking KP is an excellent idea.

I agree with X-C that you can mix soil and water in cup and measure ph. Also you will be able to measure the ph of the water you are using before you water with it and adjust as necessary which will help keep your ph correct in the future. That is pretty much the end of my knowledge on soil and it isn't much. ;) I've tried to study soil methods but always seem to get caught up with words like.....ickies. :D

PS You probably already know this....don't use fish products to adjust ph....only the ph testers are ok. Apparently the ph adjusters for fish contain too many salts for plants. You can raise ph with baking soda and lower it with distilled white vinegar.

I actually didn't know that...and more than likely would've seen something at the store to buy along with the tester...but thanks to you I won't now...Yeah, when I was told about the test kit I could find easily..he mentioned something about baking soda and vinegar..just wasn't sure which did what..thanks for letting me know :thumbsup:

Markass
03-25-2007, 04:40 PM
Well you've definitely got an overfert issue. The leaves that feel papery? Classic. I'm not on my home puter, or I'd give you a link. Remind me to later.

papery as in...just thin or what? and you guys kinda both confirmed what I was thinking, but I needed other opinions..Will move feeding back to once a week and will get to the store as soon as I can to get a PH kit..new growth seems to be doing great on them...the topped one is growing well and now going back I kinda wish I would've topped one more of them..but oh well, this will give me a good idea of what to expect from the next bb grow..:thumbsup:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 04:54 PM
Yeah, thin and kind of crinkly dry. But not crumbly dead dry.

Oh lord, I can't put it into words. I'm too buzzed.

Weedhound
03-25-2007, 05:05 PM
i'm definitely wondering about the drainage... usually alot the excess salts and ickies tha Mrs GJ so ACCURATELY describes get drained out with the excess water through the drain holes. I'm wondering if all that stuff is sitting in the bottom of your pots....burning the older roots. Mrs GJ, you're kind of a sneaky little sharp one. ;)

Markass
03-25-2007, 05:10 PM
i'm definitely wondering about the drainage... usually alot the excess salts and ickies tha Mrs GJ so ACCURATELY describes get drained out with the excess water through the drain holes. I'm wondering if all that stuff is sitting in the bottom of your pots....burning the older roots. Mrs GJ, you're kind of a sneaky little sharp one. ;)



The pic I've uploaded is my plant on 1/10/2007...about fifteen or twenty days before it was hacked down for being a monster that wouldn't give me any smoke..but it was doing fine...as were the others in my previous grows...This is most likely a burn, but it is attributed to me upping the dose of ferts to correct N def...This plant was about two months from seed..did fine...just was shitty mexican genetics..I was using shultz 5-30-5 daily with 16 ounces of water...the bb certainly doesn't seem to like that much ferts though..Another thing is that even with drain holes, I wouldn't feel comfortable giving them such an amount of water that it would go out the bottom..

Again I'll mention that the previous two grows in the end when I dug soil out of my buckets to wash them I did not have any sort of soggy mess...was moist soil from the day before...nothing excessive, roots filled the entire bucket..I know no drainage is very unorthodox, but the only reason I still avoided punching holes in the bottom again is the successful growth of my previous plants in the same manner..

Weedhound
03-25-2007, 05:16 PM
Well THAT is a nice looking plant. :thumbsup: What were you able to get off it?

Markass
03-25-2007, 05:24 PM
Well THAT is a nice looking plant. :thumbsup: What were you able to get off it?

thanks weedhound...well, I actually ended up with about a bowl. That was before my plant really went hermie bad...I thought it was going to be pretty good..and here are a couple more pics from around that time..the days after this though...the plant turned at least 3/4 male...it nearly halted production of female flowers and started making nasty nanners...with picking hundreds of male shits off each day...the plant went to hell...it grew though, and would've been fine had it not went hermie bad on me.

Seeing how well that plant grew...maybe you guys can understand my confidence..To be very honest and rather noob-ish...when I started this grow in february..I was unaware that PH was something of concern in soil..I always thought that was only affiliated with hydro...I'm much more aware of it now..I've done some reading about it..

Weedhound
03-25-2007, 05:29 PM
Hermies.....those fuckers. :cursing:

Markass
03-25-2007, 05:35 PM
Hermies.....those fuckers. :cursing:

yeah, I hated it...and I'm just hoping my 85 degrees isn't going to influence hermies for these next couple days before the cool tube gets here. Topped plant is gaining diameter on the new main stalks...will be showing preflowers soon. The other two show female preflowers...

I guess the good thing about waiting this little while for the cool tube is that in this time..my plants have gotten a lot more undergrowth in and I think it'll be better for my yield...I love how quickly they grow :D:thumbsup:

Markass
03-26-2007, 03:33 AM
I'm looking for some advice about my situation....well, this is my topped plant, you can see how the two main tips have shot up some..I was told by crispi I would see stretching pretty good...I would guess this is what he was talking about...they've stretched a lot...now, what can I expect once I start 12/12..? Flowers will pop out and how well will this 250HPS do for that? will bud development be good..? Other plant's growth tips are basically stretching too..light's like 15" away..

p.s...the topped plant was topped 15 days ago on 3/10.

Scarlet Sky
03-26-2007, 03:42 AM
mark, i'd try to get that hps closer, 12 inches is great, it'll help reduce the stretch dramatically. as for the 12-12 stretch, you can expect at least a double height stretch. it will be about two weeks before you start noticing any bud mass, another week or two more for the first trichs.

deff continue to feed with your veg nutes, as these guys can go chloro realy quick. i recomend veg nutes for the first two weeks of flower.

also, if you can, cool it down in there a little; they look like they are too warm. mine like temps in the sixties, and anything below...

hope that helps, and looking great!

Markass
03-26-2007, 03:56 AM
mark, i'd try to get that hps closer, 12 inches is great, it'll help reduce the stretch dramatically. as for the 12-12 stretch, you can expect at least a double height stretch. it will be about two weeks before you start noticing any bud mass, another week or two more for the first trichs.

deff continue to feed with your veg nutes, as these guys can go chloro realy quick. i recomend veg nutes for the first two weeks of flower.

also, if you can, cool it down in there a little; they look like they are too warm. mine like temps in the sixties, and anything below...

hope that helps, and looking great!

yeah scarlet, I've been warned over and over about temps...85 :( Nothing I can do about it right now except for when I'm in here, I keep the door open...it allows for a bit more air to get in there...I found the exhaust duct nearly useless..at least until my cool tube arrives. Which should be very soon..cool tube will let me keep it lots closer :D with the light being closer it makes me nervous given they're already physically showing stress...I've had hermies past two grows..probably mainly cause of heat issues..I would hate for that to happen again. Could you give me any idea how much stress is too much? or does it vary too much..? Hard to adequately ventillate my closet..I've got everything done right now that I can..

also could you maybe speculate if my stretching atm..and possibly any stretching through flowering at some point will affect my bud production? from what I understand orange spectrum is really good for fruiting/flowering...and not so good at veg..will it be comparably better at encouraging flowers?

Scarlet Sky
03-26-2007, 04:22 AM
as for stress, there's realy no mathematical equation or anything, but continual abuse is a true ticket to herms. being that you have not started flowering yet, you should be ok, if you can get the temps down. the cool tube will help by about ten degrees, imo, and will have you at almost ideal.

as for the flowering, the hps will not do you wrong; compared to cfl's, it's like comparing a finger to a fist; biiiiig difference.

and as for the prestretch, it may actually help you; you see, bb is not yeild restricted meaning the top cola's will be comparaitve to a single cola of an untopped plant. with this nature, the side buds grow nicely as well if they get adequate light. the stretch will put less foliage in the way of the lower sites, increasing your overall yeild. dont be surprised if you don't get rock hard density out of them; mine are rather fluffy and stretched, even under a 1000w.

hope this helps.

Markass
03-26-2007, 04:33 AM
as for stress, there's realy no mathematical equation or anything, but continual abuse is a true ticket to herms. being that you have not started flowering yet, you should be ok, if you can get the temps down. the cool tube will help by about ten degrees, imo, and will have you at almost ideal.

as for the flowering, the hps will not do you wrong; compared to cfl's, it's like comparing a finger to a fist; biiiiig difference.

and as for the prestretch, it may actually help you; you see, bb is not yeild restricted meaning the top cola's will be comparaitve to a single cola of an untopped plant. with this nature, the side buds grow nicely as well if they get adequate light. the stretch will put less foliage in the way of the lower sites, increasing your overall yeild. dont be surprised if you don't get rock hard density out of them; mine are rather fluffy and stretched, even under a 1000w.

hope this helps.

scarlet, thank you so much...big big help in telling me exactly what I need to know..the side buds..if you're talking about the other bud sites..should get good light..I bent my plants over a bit more today when I drilled holes in the bottom for drainage..

your knowledge is a tremendous help to me :thumbsup:

Bree1978
03-26-2007, 12:47 PM
Hey, I thought I'd let you know you can get a ph test kit for swimming pools at wally world....Just dip the stick kind, no mixing water, and cheap (9.00 for 100 tests).


:jointsmile: Bree1978

Weedhound
03-26-2007, 03:12 PM
Hey that's a cool idea Bree...didn't think of that one. Just out of curiosity...we used to have a pool....what is the ph of pool water supposed to be?

Bree1978
03-26-2007, 04:20 PM
Hey that's a cool idea Bree...didn't think of that one. Just out of curiosity...we used to have a pool....what is the ph of pool water supposed to be?

I don't have personal experience about that one weedhound since I was always a pond girl, but the back of my ph kit says: Min 7.2, Ideal 7.5, Max 7.8. That's for spas too.

:jointsmile: Bree

Markass
03-26-2007, 07:16 PM
A stoned ass kitty..passed out..and some annual herbs coming up...guess we threw seeds down at some point last year...oh well, let em grow :thumbsup:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-26-2007, 07:24 PM
Wheeeeeeeeeeee! I farking luv kitttiez! So cute. I want to kiss it's lips.
Mmmm, catlips.

Markass
03-26-2007, 07:31 PM
Wheeeeeeeeeeee! I farking luv kitttiez! So cute. I want to kiss it's lips.
Mmmm, catlips.

animals are pretty effing trippy...fun to have critters around :stoned: :thumbsup:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-26-2007, 07:34 PM
Is that a boy kitty or a girl?

My cat is getting on my damned nerves right now. He's just being a punkass, whining and licking furniture. We moved and he misses his girlfriend from our old neighborhood, so he's just being a putz.

Markass
03-26-2007, 07:45 PM
Is that a boy kitty or a girl?

My cat is getting on my damned nerves right now. He's just being a punkass, whining and licking furniture. We moved and he misses his girlfriend from our old neighborhood, so he's just being a putz.

he's a boy...name's Camargo :) He never really gets onto my nerves..really good cat :D Sits and gets stoned with me...he knows it's a no no to go into my closet. one of a kind cat he is :thumbsup:

Scarlet Sky
03-26-2007, 07:46 PM
Is that a boy kitty or a girl?

My cat is getting on my damned nerves right now. He's just being a punkass, whining and licking furniture. We moved and he misses his girlfriend from our old neighborhood, so he's just being a putz.

what a pussy...

:p

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-26-2007, 09:18 PM
HA! I just typed the same thing in an email to Stinky! Too funny.
Are you hacking me?

Scarlet Sky
03-26-2007, 10:25 PM
HA! I just typed the same thing in an email to Stinky! Too funny.
Are you hacking me?

ooooowwweeeeeeooooooo

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-27-2007, 05:16 AM
AHAHHAHAHAAHAHA!

MedusaGrower
03-28-2007, 12:06 AM
do you have air conditioning in the house/place where your grow room/space is?

Markass
03-28-2007, 01:53 AM
do you have air conditioning in the house/place where your grow room/space is?

we do, but it's usually not turned on until later on..more towards may or so...when it gets a lot warmer outside.

Weedhound
03-28-2007, 02:25 AM
So MA have you turned them? Did you get your cooltube? What's the scoop?

Markass
03-28-2007, 02:36 AM
So MA have you turned them? Did you get your cooltube? What's the scoop?

cool tube will be here tomorrow afternoon...can't wait..:D gonna go to 12/12 once I'm comfortable with temps..they're definitely ready..growing good..nute sensitive...but no biggie...can't be perfect :) I think I'll try once a week on them...good friend of mine is sending me a ph meter for my soil..one that's like a probe..very nifty..sure don't know what I'd do without his help..:thumbsup:

Weedhound
03-28-2007, 04:25 AM
I think I know who you mean....yeah he's ok in my book too ;) :D They are looking good there to me; growing nice! Keep it up! :thumbsup:

Markass
03-28-2007, 04:53 AM
I think I know who you mean....yeah he's ok in my book too ;) :D They are looking good there to me; growing nice! Keep it up! :thumbsup:

yup you do. yeah weedhound, the temps have been a bit cooler I believe, and back down with the nutrients..they're seeming to be a lot happier. growing better. sure wish I would've topped another one...oh well, there's always next time :) :stoned:

another thing...it seems like as they've got this sort of growth spurt they're consuming more water? it seems rather obvious that a growing plant...getting bigger would consume more water with time? stoned ass right now..thinking..

Weedhound
03-28-2007, 05:04 AM
Think I read somewhere that during flowering larger plants can consume a GALLON of water a day. Seems that I notice this more in hydro....probably because you are looking at the water level daily.

They do look real good at this point. What's your plan once you go to 12/12...ie...how are you lightproofing the area? I'll check back and see how your new cooltube does too....thinking about one myself but am on the fence at this point. :jointsmile:

Markass
03-28-2007, 10:53 AM
Think I read somewhere that during flowering larger plants can consume a GALLON of water a day. Seems that I notice this more in hydro....probably because you are looking at the water level daily.

They do look real good at this point. What's your plan once you go to 12/12...ie...how are you lightproofing the area? I'll check back and see how your new cooltube does too....thinking about one myself but am on the fence at this point. :jointsmile:

I will adjust my light schedule to the most convenience for me...I always hate having to think when to set it..always fucks with me, I'm not good at math in the first place..lol. once my closet door's shut, it's light proofed.

Yeah, I was pretty sure that the bigger they got the more water they consume..soil was dried out and plants leaves hurling over about 8 hours sooner than it usually does...probably may get 3 32 oz cups...the 16 oz won't be enough for too much longer..:thumbsup:

thanks for the comments weedhound

Markass
03-28-2007, 11:06 AM
different fucking bug...this one looks kinda like fuckers I saw called thrips? time for another spray down...spring's here...are bugs moving around a lot more now or something?

TheGreenFog
03-28-2007, 04:41 PM
Well, aint that a bitch! Sorry, man. Strike them down with fire and brimstone, dude. That stuff really seems to work...well, for deities, at least. ;) Good luck.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-28-2007, 04:59 PM
Bleh. How are you getting bugs indoors?

Markass
03-28-2007, 08:50 PM
Bleh. How are you getting bugs indoors?

lol...I have no clue. that's why I asked if they move around more when spring rolls around...


well, I'm working on the cool tube right now..making sure I don't fuck it up.

Markass
03-28-2007, 10:34 PM
I love fun projects such as doing the cool tube...don't get to do stuff like this very often at all. lights on at 7:48...we'll see how the temps do..I'll let you guys know how satisfied I am :thumbsup:

If I'm happy, then I'll probably start 12/12 tomorrow...

Texas Hydroponics (http://www.texashydroponics.com) is a good site..especially for me..UPS ground gets here in 2 days from austin :D

Scarlet Sky
03-28-2007, 10:39 PM
so, how many girls do you have there?

looking good mark, glad they're doing so well. one little tidbit from my experiences... bb has a recomended flower time of 60 to 75 days... i let mine go 80, sometimes more :D i figure it's a coucher, why not ephasize it...:p

Markass
03-28-2007, 11:10 PM
so, how many girls do you have there?

looking good mark, glad they're doing so well. one little tidbit from my experiences... bb has a recomended flower time of 60 to 75 days... i let mine go 80, sometimes more :D i figure it's a coucher, why not ephasize it...:p

hey scarlet, all 3 are ladies...fem beans are so much better than wasting an extra couple buckets of soil and space to grow males for a month or so...Yeah, crispi said he should've let his go about another week...Since I want the best couchlock, I plan on letting mine go quite a while..I will take them at different times, but will be shooting for letting them go as long as I can. give me a nice idea of what a bit of extra maturation can do for the stone...personal experience teaches me best..

thanks for the kind words scarlet :thumbsup:

BigWeed
03-28-2007, 11:31 PM
Hey MA how much did you pay for those fem bb. I think I want to try some fem beans this time since I clone anyway I dont need any males.

Markass
03-28-2007, 11:41 PM
Hey MA how much did you pay for those fem bb. I think I want to try some fem beans this time since I clone anyway I dont need any males.

I was fortunate enough to have a friend send a few my way..much better route..saves a lot of trouble.

fem beans + cloning = saving tons of money..

Find plant with favorite traits...keep it as a mom for a year or so...:D something I want to do one of these days

BigWeed
03-28-2007, 11:51 PM
I was fortunate enough to have a friend send a few my way..much better route..saves a lot of trouble.

fem beans + cloning = saving tons of money..

Find plant with favorite traits...keep it as a mom for a year or so...:D something I want to do one of these days

I know Im trying to add four more strains to my garden and I think fem beans is the way to go. I know they cost more but if they are females and you can keep the one with the best traits then they pay for them selves.:rastasmoke: :rasta:

Weedhound
03-28-2007, 11:51 PM
So lets see the tube up and running!!!!!

orangeman
03-28-2007, 11:56 PM
I love fun projects such as doing the cool tube...don't get to do stuff like this very often at all. lights on at 7:48...we'll see how the temps do..I'll let you guys know how satisfied I am :thumbsup:

If I'm happy, then I'll probably start 12/12 tomorrow...

Texas Hydroponics (http://www.texashydroponics.com) is a good site..especially for me..UPS ground gets here in 2 days from austin :D

Fuck I should have ordered from there. I order from a site that's all the way in California lol!

Markass
03-28-2007, 11:57 PM
So lets see the tube up and running!!!!!

lights come on in 41 minutes...I'll take some pics then...very very curious what it's gonna be like...:stoned:

Markass
03-28-2007, 11:58 PM
Fuck I should have ordered from there. I order from a site that's all the way in California lol!

meh either way bro...UPS ground will do 3 days for the most part of US....I'm just close enough to Austin it makes it here in two..OM, how's your progress?

Markass
03-29-2007, 12:00 AM
I know Im trying to add four more strains to my garden and I think fem beans is the way to go. I know they cost more but if they are females and you can keep the one with the best traits then they pay for them selves.:rastasmoke: :rasta:

Damn...four MORE? How many do you have, lol? Sounds like I may have to run up there one of these days when my crop's done...

orangeman
03-29-2007, 12:20 AM
meh either way bro...UPS ground will do 3 days for the most part of US....I'm just close enough to Austin it makes it here in two..OM, how's your progress?

Oh it's all good. I just think I care for the things TOO damn much. I think I over watered one of them and I just went down and sprayed them again :wtf:. I'm really caring for those things lol. I go down there to spend a minute or two with them and end up down there for about 20 mins. I guess only reason I'm acting like this is because I really expect these things to flower and give me some beautiful females :D.

Markass
03-29-2007, 01:03 AM
Temps are about 5 degrees cooler...duct is kinda long..I'm gonna try and figure out a way to power this d/c computer fan I have so I can put it inside the end of the cool tube to induct air..Light's now about 8 1/2 - 9 inches from the tops..a lot closer than 18" eh?


with c/t containing the hot air and pushing it back out...not gonna be a lot of hot air building up in my closet I believe..very beneficial. anyone in a closet situation capable of ventilation should check these out..

Markass
03-29-2007, 01:04 AM
Yeah OM, I was like that the first time...very beautiful flowers..wait till you have some buds..

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-29-2007, 01:06 AM
Computer Fan Wiring - Growing Marijuana (http://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/4105-computer-fan-wiring.html)

Markass
03-29-2007, 01:22 AM
Computer Fan Wiring - Growing Marijuana (http://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/4105-computer-fan-wiring.html)

I'll see if I can dig up a charger that will be able to give me the power I need for it..:thumbsup:

Scarlet Sky
03-29-2007, 01:24 AM
lol, been busy? :D

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-29-2007, 01:31 AM
Just a bit. Mark, go to Goodwill, or whatever they call thrift stores in your area.

Markass
03-29-2007, 01:48 AM
Just a bit. Mark, go to Goodwill, or whatever they call thrift stores in your area.

not much choice in this town...I'll see what I can find. thanks :thumbsup:

BigWeed
03-29-2007, 03:32 AM
Damn...four MORE? How many do you have, lol? Sounds like I may have to run up there one of these days when my crop's done...

hey MA yeah four more I have two right now hindu kush and white widow I want to have a selection of strains so I dont get bored with just one. That light looks great. I think I might try and order from there one time. I get most of my stuff locally.:rastasmoke: :rasta:

Markass
03-29-2007, 04:20 AM
hey MA yeah four more I have two right now hindu kush and white widow I want to have a selection of strains so I dont get bored with just one. That light looks great. I think I might try and order from there one time. I get most of my stuff locally.:rastasmoke: :rasta:

If you're not familiar with a cool tube...your bulb screws into the base in the glass tube..your duct hooks into the back of it and it pulls the heat away..very nifty. I bet the flowers will like the light being much closer :D

lucky bro, I plan on getting me a good stash...tired of getting this nasty ass mexican shit out here...

Weedhound
03-29-2007, 05:01 AM
EXCELLENT!!:thumbsup: :D

MOBABN
03-29-2007, 06:54 AM
texas hydros is a good store indeed!!!

Tomthehippie
03-29-2007, 10:25 AM
Hey man! how many weeks from seed are they? :)

Markass
03-29-2007, 10:59 AM
Hey man! how many weeks from seed are they? :)

they were all three started about february 12-16..:thumbsup:

Weedhound
03-29-2007, 05:23 PM
Lookin' GOOD MA! Btw, don't be surprised that all of us drop in on our plants "for five minutes" and end up staying 20 minutes....or more.... the growing things is a BLAST!!!!:thumbsup:

Markass
03-29-2007, 06:33 PM
Lookin' GOOD MA! Btw, don't be surprised that all of us drop in on our plants "for five minutes" and end up staying 20 minutes....or more.... the growing things is a BLAST!!!!:thumbsup:

I agree weedhound...the most beautiful flowers I've ever seen..I catch myself just staring...over all parts of the plants.

Markass
03-30-2007, 01:58 AM
I've got the cool tube's glass about five inches away from the tops...The stretching seems to be dicipating for the one that the light is mostly centered above...wish I would've had this thing when I tied the plants down for the first time...I would've tied them most according to where my c/t is...To try and help this a bit I tied the two tallest again to keep them down where the topped one is...at least until the topped one stops stretching so damn much. Right now I'm starting to have a big mass of fat indica leaves keeping my light from penetrating to the lower areas..

This cool tube rocks :D the plants dig having the light so much closer..

12/12 has officially been started. I'm already starting to smell those buds forming :D :stoned: :thumbsup:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-30-2007, 02:16 AM
mmm, fat penetration....

Markass
03-30-2007, 02:19 AM
mmm, fat penetration....

hehe..;) :cool:

Markass
03-31-2007, 02:25 AM
anyone think that bending them just a tad is going to add enough stress to influence hermies? considering right now with me just switching to 12/12 and all..nothing serious at all, just wanting to bend stalk over as they get taller a bit to let the lower sites get as much light as I possibly can..

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-31-2007, 02:39 AM
You'll be fine. Bend those heifers. They love bondage.

Markass
03-31-2007, 02:42 AM
You'll be fine. Bend those heifers. They love bondage.

thanks greenjeans....:thumbsup:

BigWeed
03-31-2007, 04:23 AM
Hey MA just checked my email I sent a reply.:rastasmoke: :rasta:

SDK SLAYER
03-31-2007, 11:59 AM
You'll be fine. Bend those heifers. They love bondage.

hehehe....yeah man....they can handle a fair bit of manipulation....just do it slow....wait 'til bits are standing up again before bending them more....usually a couple of days or so....looking good dude....well done :greenthumb:

:hippy:

Slayer

BigWeed
03-31-2007, 03:18 PM
hey MA check your email

Markass
03-31-2007, 09:56 PM
shortened the duct about two feet with an elbow a friend sent me..Bet it will increase the airflow at least a bit..:thumbsup: Also got a bit of koolbloom to use in later half of flowering..

Demeter
04-01-2007, 03:21 AM
Nice setup cute boy!

Markass
04-01-2007, 03:52 AM
thanks! :thumbsup:

Markass
04-01-2007, 03:31 PM
OMG! I can't fucking believe this..the cats..while I was sleeping ravaged my flowers! bullshit..be back later

Markass
04-01-2007, 04:40 PM
happy april fool's day everyone..flowers are fine..and getting stinky :D :stoned:

Chronic Chrissy
04-01-2007, 05:04 PM
My cat take some good snacks from time to time.

Markass
04-01-2007, 05:10 PM
My cat take some good snacks from time to time.

lol, trust me..mine would love to..I'm pretty sure he knows what will happen though..I don't even let him in the closet..if he goes towards it..I let him know he's not supposed to be doing that

Chronic Chrissy
04-01-2007, 05:34 PM
Mine know too but it don't stop them all the time. My cat ate all the tips of the fan leaves of the plants closest to the door then puked it all up all over the grow room floor. As crazy as it sounds I'm more concerned about my cat, I can always grow more plants.

StrwbrryFldsFrvr
04-01-2007, 06:02 PM
Haha, I thought you were serious.. I was like NOOOOOO!!!!!


Plants look nice though, how're they smelling? :jointsmile:

Markass
04-01-2007, 07:04 PM
Mine know too but it don't stop them all the time. My cat ate all the tips of the fan leaves of the plants closest to the door then puked it all up all over the grow room floor. As crazy as it sounds I'm more concerned about my cat, I can always grow more plants.

lol..bet that was a mess..

Markass
04-01-2007, 07:05 PM
Haha, I thought you were serious.. I was like NOOOOOO!!!!!


Plants look nice though, how're they smelling? :jointsmile:

smelling very skunky..getting more powerful..I can remember waking a couple times last night and the first thing I noticed was the smell..I certainly take it as a good sign though :stoned: :D

Chronic Chrissy
04-01-2007, 08:12 PM
smelling very skunky..getting more powerful..I can remember waking a couple times last night and the first thing I noticed was the smell..I certainly take it as a good sign though :stoned: :D

You think that's bad. eventually you will adapt to the smell and not notice it, then you go out for a few hours and when you come back you walk through your door into a wall of pugnant sweet strong weed, it nearly knocks you on your ass, lol.

Markass
04-01-2007, 08:16 PM
You think that's bad. eventually you will adapt to the smell and not notice it, then you go out for a few hours and when you come back you walk through your door into a wall of pugnant sweet strong weed, it nearly knocks you on your ass, lol.

lol, I don't doubt it one bit..:stoned:

Scarlet Sky
04-01-2007, 08:27 PM
just checking in, seems you have everything under control :)

APRIL FOOLS!!!

no, just kidding, good job mark!

Weedhound
04-02-2007, 07:32 PM
Like your new avatar Mark :thumbsup: I LOVE the smell....the stronger the better. Except that catpiss bagseed stuff I have.....:wtf:

Markass
04-02-2007, 08:25 PM
Like your new avatar Mark :thumbsup: I LOVE the smell....the stronger the better. Except that catpiss bagseed stuff I have.....:wtf:

thanks weedhound..it was a pic of the sunset here a month back or so. Very awesome looking..clouds are the shit, especially at sundown or sunrise :stoned: :)

Markass
04-03-2007, 02:59 AM
here's an update...looking happy..:thumbsup:

Scarlet Sky
04-03-2007, 03:00 AM
they are looking very blueberryish :D

Weedhound
04-03-2007, 03:10 AM
Look good!! :thumbsup: Starting to look mouthwatering. :cool:

Markass
04-03-2007, 03:51 AM
thanks ladies...always like to hear your input :) can't wait for flowers...:stoned:

weedhound..any chance I could see some of your blue russian pics?

Weedhound
04-04-2007, 10:03 PM
Mark I sent some pics to X-C to send you but I have not seen him around today to ask.....if you like I will post them here. Let me know. ;)

Markass
04-04-2007, 11:31 PM
Mark I sent some pics to X-C to send you but I have not seen him around today to ask.....if you like I will post them here. Let me know. ;)

Hey, he forwarded it to me..he only got 2/4 of them for some reason though..go ahead and post them here if you don't mind :thumbsup:

Weedhound
04-05-2007, 02:36 AM
I only sent X-C two photos so he didn't hold any back from you, lol. Problem is I can't remember which ones I sent him so here are some more...
Hope they aren't repeats.

Markass
04-05-2007, 04:23 AM
I only sent X-C two photos so he didn't hold any back from you, lol. Problem is I can't remember which ones I sent him so here are some more...
Hope they aren't repeats.

cool. from the couple pics he sent me it looked kinda sativa, but it looks more indica dominant now that I can see more of the plant.. turn out to be a pretty good smoke, eh? how tall were they when you chopped them?

Well anywho, since I'm here, here's an update. Tomorrow morning will make 7 days of 12/12...bud sites seeming like it's either making a bunch of nodes, or preparing to shoot me out some flowers..I'm so happy :D Even with just preflowers the plants are already looking beautiful :thumbsup:

and oh yeah, pic #5 is at 5:12am...needed water bad...gonna move to a higher amount of water per each of them now and do it less frequently following the advice of bob :) :stoned:

Scarlet Sky
04-05-2007, 04:30 AM
just don't let them dry out... bb's can be rather unforgiving from underwatering... they bounce back, but it takes about ten days to recover from a bad drought...

Markass
04-05-2007, 04:44 AM
just don't let them dry out... bb's can be rather unforgiving from underwatering... they bounce back, but it takes about ten days to recover from a bad drought...

yeah, definitely don't let them dry out badly. they felt rather soft when I crashed last night but I didn't think they would need any at least until morning..should've given them some though. I've got a strong conscience for watering...probably too strong, hint the curled up leaves..I'm learning though...thanks to people like all of you, I learn vital things. If it weren't for you, I would be clueless.

I've been told that blueberry forms rather spaced apart...is this because node spacing is wide, or does it matter regardless? ie...if my node spacing is rather close, could I expect more bud formation would you think?

Scarlet Sky
04-05-2007, 04:51 AM
mine deff space out, leaving big blueberry buches, and small cola's. and your spacing is irrelevent. it will perform the same. actually, they may do better super stretched as the individual nodes would get more light.

here's a pic of what you're asking about...

Markass
04-05-2007, 05:25 AM
mine deff space out, leaving big blueberry buches, and small cola's. and your spacing is irrelevent. it will perform the same. actually, they may do better super stretched as the individual nodes would get more light.

here's a pic of what you're asking about...

thanks scarlet..I'm hoping for a decent yield..something to get me by for a while. I regret not topping at least one more of them..now seeing how much better it probably will be.

Just curious, how far away are your lamps away from your plants? do you LST or have a cool tube? or anything else in the book of tricks for that matter?

Scarlet Sky
04-05-2007, 05:34 AM
hmmm, well mark, that's a toughie... i use a 400w mh and a 1000w in flower. under the 1000w, they start at two feet and end up at around 8 inches, no cool tube

the plants under the 400 get as close as two inches, no cool tube, but i have a large room, and the heat dissapates quickly. as far as topping and lst, i do both, but the first time i run a strain, i let it grow naturally... i want to show you this excerpt from greg green's cannabis grow bible concerning bb...


" Depending on the strain and the growing environment, the 'topped' plant may produce two small top colas instead of two big ones. Also, each strain has a threshold for bud production that cannot be improved upon because it is a genetically predetermined factor. On the other hand, some plants when fully grown without topping do not reach their threshold. The strain Blueberry is a good example of this. If you grow Blueberry without topping you won't achieve maximum bud production from that plant, but if you top the Blueberry, you will. Other strains aren't so flexible and the two top colas will simply share the same volume of bud that a single cola would have produced on the same strain."

Markass
04-05-2007, 05:46 AM
hmmm, well mark, that's a toughie... i use a 400w mh and a 1000w in flower. under the 1000w, they start at two feet and end up at around 8 inches, no cool tube

the plants under the 400 get as close as two inches, no cool tube, but i have a large room, and the heat dissapates quickly. as far as topping and lst, i do both, but the first time i run a strain, i let it grow naturally... i want to show you this excerpt from greg green's cannabis grow bible concerning bb...


" Depending on the strain and the growing environment, the 'topped' plant may produce two small top colas instead of two big ones. Also, each strain has a threshold for bud production that cannot be improved upon because it is a genetically predetermined factor. On the other hand, some plants when fully grown without topping do not reach their threshold. The strain Blueberry is a good example of this. If you grow Blueberry without topping you won't achieve maximum bud production from that plant, but if you top the Blueberry, you will. Other strains aren't so flexible and the two top colas will simply share the same volume of bud that a single cola would have produced on the same strain."

ahh...thanks a lot scarlet..:thumbsup: I will certainly be doing a few more bb grows before I switch strains I think...it's a wonderful smoke..damn good for pain. I may throw in a couple of other strains sometime but I wanna grow several of these plants just because of my heightened interest in it..

I love this cool tube..the lights about 5-6 inches away from the tops...and I'm gonna do my damnedest to fill up my space by tying it and getting it to go as horizontal as I can..if I can. I figure I wanna try and get as much light to all parts of the plant if I can..:) :stoned:

Scarlet Sky
04-05-2007, 07:01 AM
beleive it or not, you can make monsters of two or three females, i had five with twenty+ main branches, all with their own branches, they completley filled a 3x8x4h cab! topping and tying are nothing but good with bb :thumbsup:

Weedhound
04-06-2007, 02:55 PM
Those sure look like some nice buds growing on that limb there Scarlet. Somehow some of those same blueberry seeds ended up at my house so I will be trying a few on my next grow as well. :thumbsup:

Mark the russian stuff is very indica. It does terrific with topping but as I learned with my last grow make sure to give plenty of root room. My last grow was also the first time I tried to bend it and lst'ing it was a big mistake with it's short stocky branches. It did not do well with lst at all so I'd probably leave that off it's list if I were you.

Its a great smoke...a good friend of mine who's smoked for about 20 years took one hit off my first batch and said it was the strongest weed he'd ever smoke--one hit wiped him for about 45 min. (I think that also has something to do with smoking fresh-grown weed however......you'll never go back!) and I use it in cookies etc cause I think it's got a great high (although it can get a little couchlock)

Markass
04-06-2007, 03:26 PM
Those sure look like some nice buds growing on that limb there Scarlet. Somehow some of those same blueberry seeds ended up at my house so I will be trying a few on my next grow as well. :thumbsup:

Mark the russian stuff is very indica. It does terrific with topping but as I learned with my last grow make sure to give plenty of root room. My last grow was also the first time I tried to bend it and lst'ing it was a big mistake with it's short stocky branches. It did not do well with lst at all so I'd probably leave that off it's list if I were you.

Its a great smoke...a good friend of mine who's smoked for about 20 years took one hit off my first batch and said it was the strongest weed he'd ever smoke--one hit wiped him for about 45 min. (I think that also has something to do with smoking fresh-grown weed however......you'll never go back!) and I use it in cookies etc cause I think it's got a great high (although it can get a little couchlock)

Thanks for the report, weedhound..I've been kinda curious what it was like. I was wanting to put some of them outside and may still end up doing so...but there's a freeze warning here this weekend so I'm glad I haven't done it yet..been like 70+ the past couple weeks, some very strange weather.

As for couchlock, that's what I'm all about. If something's too sativa dominant, it increases my heart rate a lot and triggers my anxiety..try to avoid it as best I can. A powerful indica stone is wonderful for my back pain, something I just have to take a couple puffs of and wow :stoned:

flowers are doing well...I expect to see some buds to start forming next week sometime. 8 days into 12/12 now.

Markass
04-10-2007, 04:41 AM
Started making flowers...OCD has been getting the best of me with them...they grow nearly before my eyes and I find myself spending hours around them messing..oh well..:)

my topped plant had a few of the lower growth's get big and are just as thick and tall as the top tops...are they going to give me similar results? I know you can identify which one I'm talking about..lol

the other two are untopped but I tried tieing them horizontally as much as I could and it seems to have okay results thus far..

Upon looking them over top to bottom earlier..on one of them I noticed a couple preflowers that made me cringe..didn't look like female preflowers, but not quite male..I don't want any more fucking hermies, I'm tired of it..they really haven't had any constant stress...I hope they stay female completely through and give me lots of pretty flowers to smoke..

I may do another update at the end of the week, I'll probably have better buds then..a bit more developed I'm sure..no bud porn yet..this is all kiddie porn, but they are growing fine :rasta: :thumbsup:

Weedhound
04-10-2007, 06:06 AM
Mark how many days are you into flower? Your plants look REALLY good btw....very nice color and lots of good growth. It' probably too late for this grow but I use a product called Reverse (formerly Feminiser by DutchMaster) to combat hermie-ism and have had excellent results with it. Fairly expensive though and you have to use it in the first week of 12/12. Just some cud to chew on. ;)

Markass
04-10-2007, 11:13 AM
Mark how many days are you into flower? Your plants look REALLY good btw....very nice color and lots of good growth. It' probably too late for this grow but I use a product called Reverse (formerly Feminiser by DutchMaster) to combat hermie-ism and have had excellent results with it. Fairly expensive though and you have to use it in the first week of 12/12. Just some cud to chew on. ;)

Now are 12 days into flower. I've heard of similar products to relieve stress and may look into using something for the future. Price isn't so much of a concern as long as the results are promising though...

Weedhound
04-10-2007, 06:24 PM
Well this stuff works......no doubt about it. Made by DutchMaster....called Reverse (formerly called Feminiser). What it does is inhibit the growth of male flowers on a female plant. It will not afffect your males in any way.....but then you don't have any so no worries there.

My first growing season I started with 80 plants....long story but ended up with about 6 females at harvest.....plus another 5 that were in my hydro set-up. Out of those 11, four of them hermied. Two I was able to pinpoint the reason and two I was not.

My hydro guy recommended this to me.....and he's God in my book so I bought it. Out of my next two grows I ended up with a total of 10 plants....0 hermies. And yes, I stressed them. I never mean to but somehow I always do.


Because I was planting female seeds this grow I asked him if there was anything special I should do since I know they tend to hermie more and he said the only difference was to make sure to use the feminiser (which I do anyway). So something to think about......but too late for this grow.. It's a foliar spray that you spray on your plants on day 1 of 12/12 and then repeat on day 10.

Markass
04-10-2007, 06:51 PM
Well this stuff works......no doubt about it. Made by DutchMaster....called Reverse (formerly called Feminiser). What it does is inhibit the growth of male flowers on a female plant. It will not afffect your males in any way.....but then you don't have any so no worries there.

My first growing season I started with 80 plants....long story but ended up with about 6 females at harvest.....plus another 5 that were in my hydro set-up. Out of those 11, four of them hermied. Two I was able to pinpoint the reason and two I was not.

My hydro guy recommended this to me.....and he's God in my book so I bought it. Out of my next two grows I ended up with a total of 10 plants....0 hermies. And yes, I stressed them. I never mean to but somehow I always do.


Because I was planting female seeds this grow I asked him if there was anything special I should do since I know they tend to hermie more and he said the only difference was to make sure to use the feminiser (which I do anyway). So something to think about......but too late for this grow.. It's a foliar spray that you spray on your plants on day 1 of 12/12 and then repeat on day 10.

sounds like some good stuff to use..I'll certainly be trying to get ahold of some of it within the next couple months.

Markass
04-10-2007, 08:36 PM
Well this stuff works......no doubt about it. Made by DutchMaster....called Reverse (formerly called Feminiser). What it does is inhibit the growth of male flowers on a female plant. It will not afffect your males in any way.....but then you don't have any so no worries there.

My first growing season I started with 80 plants....long story but ended up with about 6 females at harvest.....plus another 5 that were in my hydro set-up. Out of those 11, four of them hermied. Two I was able to pinpoint the reason and two I was not.

My hydro guy recommended this to me.....and he's God in my book so I bought it. Out of my next two grows I ended up with a total of 10 plants....0 hermies. And yes, I stressed them. I never mean to but somehow I always do.


Because I was planting female seeds this grow I asked him if there was anything special I should do since I know they tend to hermie more and he said the only difference was to make sure to use the feminiser (which I do anyway). So something to think about......but too late for this grow.. It's a foliar spray that you spray on your plants on day 1 of 12/12 and then repeat on day 10.

Reverse by DutchMaster - 1 liter | Plant Nutrient Enhancers - General (http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemDesc.asp?ic=NEGREV)

I guess this is it? Description mentions something called penetrator..do you use this as well? It says it's supposed to help, but it seems quite obvious that the reverse stuff will work without it..my eyes may have been just seeing some calyxes starting to cluster or something anyhow..at least I hope. with hermie grow last time anything that doesn't look distinctly like a female flower I'm instantly pointing my finger saying it's hermie..I really hope for straight females though.

Mrs. Greenjeans
04-11-2007, 04:26 PM
Rub your armpit on them. That always makes me feel womanly.

Markass
04-11-2007, 06:29 PM
Rub your armpit on them. That always makes me feel womanly.

lol

Weedhound
04-11-2007, 06:58 PM
Haven't tried that one on my plants Mrs Gj......and Mark.....you don't even WANT to know what makes me feel womanly, lol.

Yes, that is it. I just turned mine the other day and gave them their first spray......second in ten days.

I do use the Penetrator....my hydro jesus recommended it but says it can be used without although results are better with it. The penetrator does something along the line of assisting the plant with ?absorbing? the spray. I also use the penetrator for my other foliar sprays as well. I still have the original liter of it I bought too....so very cheap. The Reverse however is used full strength and I use a liter per grow. After all my hermis on my first grow along with living in BFE where power problems occur often (power out this morning so there is the first lighting issue this grow)......one of the main reasons I use the Reverse. I swear by it.

PS I also use a foliar spray hydro j recommended to speed growing and increase growth that I really like called VHO by Advance nutrients that really helps kick my plants in the ass w/growth. It happens to have another nice side effect as well.....bugs hate it so during the time I use it (and used it outdoors too) bugs won't TOUCH the plants. Mark I'm just full of cud, lol :jointsmile:

Markass
04-11-2007, 07:08 PM
Haven't tried that one on my plants Mrs Gj......and Mark.....you don't even WANT to know what makes me feel womanly, lol.

Yes, that is it. I just turned mine the other day and gave them their first spray......second in ten days.

I do use the Penetrator....my hydro jesus recommended it but says it can be used without although results are better with it. The penetrator does something along the line of assisting the plant with ?absorbing? the spray. I also use the penetrator for my other foliar sprays as well. I still have the original liter of it I bought too....so very cheap. The Reverse however is used full strength and I use a liter per grow. After all my hermis on my first grow along with living in BFE where power problems occur often (power out this morning so there is the first lighting issue this grow)......one of the main reasons I use the Reverse. I swear by it.

PS I also use a foliar spray hydro j recommended to speed growing and increase growth that I really like called VHO by Advance nutrients that really helps kick my plants in the ass w/growth. It happens to have another nice side effect as well.....bugs hate it so during the time I use it (and used it outdoors too) bugs won't TOUCH the plants. Mark I'm just full of cud, lol :jointsmile:

thanks for the input..I plan on experimenting with additives/boosters..things of that sort for the future...this grow I've got some Koolbloom powder to use weeks 4-8 or so and intend on trying other products once I get out on my own and have more space...ie..a big bloom room :D :thumbsup:

and why wouldn't I want to know what makes any woman feel womanly? isn't that what guys are supposed to think about and stuff? haha :stoned:

I'll have some more pics later on..maybe this weekend..every night when the lights turn on I notice how much they've grown...such a kickass plant :D

Scarlet Sky
04-11-2007, 07:21 PM
such a kickass obsession... :D

Weedhound
04-11-2007, 07:42 PM
Too true Scarlet! Damn one of these days I'm going to be able to rep you again.....still going to hit you for the geckos. ;)

Scarlet Sky
04-11-2007, 07:45 PM
weed, i don't need any more rep; i'm maxed out, due to a thread inspired by sheer boredom. *sigh* i wish i was back at my 3 bright dot mark...

TheGreenFog
04-11-2007, 11:45 PM
Yo, Markass, lookin' sharp. :thumbsup:

Mrs. G, please don't rub your armpits on my plants...please. :D


The Fog :rastasmoke:

Markass
04-12-2007, 12:49 AM
Mrs. G, please don't rub your armpits on my plants...please. :D


Speak for yourself, fog..

Greenjeans, feel free to come by at any moment for a foliar pit-rub.

Markass
04-13-2007, 04:22 AM
Did some tying down when I got home tonight...plant # 3 is the smallest, yet oldest of them all and she won't be as big as producer compared to the others I don't believe, growth is staying rather compact with it..the other 2 are growing quite well...tied the main stem down in another spot on that one, giving other bud sites a lot more light right there..going very well..

fucked with camera some on a setting called 'tungsten...first pic is normal with HPS on, other pics are with tungsten setting...I like it :D looks much better and descriptive..

Weedhound
04-13-2007, 04:58 AM
God I LOVE those and I'm not even growing them!! I can almost smell them from here.:) :jointsmile: