Al Gore: Global Hypocricy

[Psycho4Bud]

The sky is falling he cry's but does he practice what he preaches?


Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself.

Then there is the troubling matter of his energy use. In the Washington, D.C., area, utility companies offer wind energy as an alternative to traditional energy. In Nashville, similar programs exist. Utility customers must simply pay a few extra pennies per kilowatt hour, and they can continue living their carbon-neutral lifestyles knowing that they are supporting wind energy. Plenty of businesses and institutions have signed up. Even the Bush administration is using green energy for some federal office buildings, as are thousands of area residents.

But according to public records, there is no evidence that Gore has signed up to use green energy in either of his large residences. When contacted Wednesday, Gore's office confirmed as much but said the Gores were looking into making the switch at both homes. Talk about inconvenient truths.
Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm)

In the past, Al Gore has made his environmental positions a big part of his message, notably in his book "Earth in the Balance", which sold well. We don't critique candidates' policy positions, but some of that may come back to haunt him by making him look extreme, trendy or hypocritical.

Gore runs the risk of being shown up as a hypocrite, the way Mike Dukakis was in 1998 after Boston Harbor's pollution problem was exposed.

One example is the Pigeon River in North Carolina and east Tennesee. The Champion International paper mill has pumped tons of chemicals and byproducts into it for years, turning it the color of cofee and adding a sulfurish smell. Gore campaigned hard against this pollution and lobbied the EPA to crack down. But in 1987, as Gore started running for president the first time, he was pressured by 2 politicians whose support he craved for the North Carolina Super Tuesday primary. Terry Sanford (then a Senator) and Jamie Clarke (North Carolina congressmen) lobbied him hard to ease up on Champion. Gore did, writing to the EPA again and now asking for a more permissive water pollution standard. Sanford and Clarke endorsed him, and Gore won the state handily.

Another example is a Gore family property that has been mined for zinc and germanium for decades. The Vice-President and his dad, the late Senator Albert Gore, Sr., obtained the land in a very favorable deal with the late Armand Hammer of Occidental Petroleum. Gore, Sr. was heavily supported by Hammer financially, and carried his water in the U.S. Senate.

Back in 1972, when zinc was discovered across the river from the Gore family land in Carthage, TN, Hammer sent engineers out and offered $20,000 per year for a mineral rights lease on some property owned by a church that had been willed the land. Instead, they wanted to sell and Hammer won a bidding war to buy the land for $160,000. He then sold it to Gore Jr. and Sr. for the same amount, and immediately started leasing the land back from him for the same $20,000. Lynwood Burkhalter, who in the 70s was president of the company that assumed this lease from Occidental Petroleum, called the payments "extraordinarily large."

Mining is, of course, a very messy business environmentally. The mine itself hasn't been that bad. Republicans have claimed that it's polluting the local drinking water, but according to the Wall Street Journal those problems "are actually very minor." However, the Journal notes that the plant in Clarksville TN, which processes the Gore minerals, is a federal Superfund site contaminated with cadmium and mercury, posing "a threat to the human food chain."


There's also a damning quote about cutting down Yew trees to make a promising cancer treatment that we used to include in our Gore quotes section. Except that the really embarrassing part -- which we got from an editorial in the Austin, Texas American Statesman -- turns out to be distorted and out of context. The full quote, which is still a little odd, is:

"The Pacific Yew can be cut down and processed to produce a potent chemical, taxol, which offers some promise of curing certain forms of lung, breast and ovarian cancer in patients who would otherwise quickly die. It seems an easy choice -- sacrifice the tree for a human life -- until one learns that three trees must be destroyed for each patient treated, that only specimens more than a hundred years old contain the potent chemical in their bark, and that there are very few of these yews remaining on earth." - Gore, in "Earth in the Balance", p. 119

The distorted version puts a period after "for each patient treated," as if the ratio of trees to humans was what bothered Gore. In reality, his point is that treating all current cancer patients would destroy all of the trees, leaving none of the drug for future cancer patients.
Skeleton Closet - Al Gore, The Dark Side (http://www.realchange.org/gore.htm#pollution)



Should be a lesson to all.........take a politicians word for what it's worth, a grain of salt.

REAL nice that the rest of the industrialized world should be compelled to cut back.......why, so Al and Tipper can jump another private jet? :S4:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[delusionsofNORMALity]

once again i find myself saying, "are you really surprised?"

the shell game goes on and it's all ignored because it might be for the greater good. the reactionaries will jump on it, the green freaks will claim it's all a lie and in the morning it's business as usual. i'm getting quite tired and the cold is seeming warmer all the time.

[Purple Banana]

Al Gore is a soggy piece of bread, who is blander than, well, something so bland it defies description. It's just that bland.

He's not a scientist. He's not a climatologist. What the hell IS he, besides another political talking head?

Instead of the environmentalists and industrialists debating like children about whether or not Global Warming is ocurring, they need to sit down and talk about policies that make sense and are cost efficient. Cleaning Earth is not easy nor cheap, but I'm sure there are programs that can be invested in that aren't a total load of crap, and will help make our planet more eco-friendly.

[Psycho4Bud]

Utility records show the Gore family paid an average monthly electric bill of about $1,200 last year for its 10,000-square-foot home.

The Gores used about 191,000 kilowatt hours in 2006, according to bills reviewed by The Associated Press. The typical Nashville household uses about 15,600 kilowatt-hours per year.

The group said that Gore used nearly 221,000 kilowatt hours last year and that his average monthly electric bill was $1,359. Johnson said his group got its figures from Nashville Electric Service.
Chicago Tribune news | Registration (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-ap-gore-electric-bill,1,1086970.story?coll=chi-news-hed)

And thats just for the home in Tennessee! I guess the REAL "Inconvenient Truth" is that this dude has no concept of practice what you preach.........my average bill last year was about $175/month. Maybe I should make a movie....LMAO!!!

And there are some that think this dude should run in "08"? PLEASE DO!!! Another one that can bite the dust........

Have a good one!:s4:

[Zimzum]

CNN reports almost $2,500 a month bill between gas and electric. I bet its due to a massive grow-op of pine trees in his basement. :jointsmile:

I like the cause, but they could have found a bit better spokes person for it. Like a crack head telling you not to do crack.

[iPot]

Well there is an inconvenent truth if i ever heard one.

[Bong30]

Well there is an inconvenent truth if i ever heard one.

The truth is Al Gore is Politician that doesnt really care about the enviroment, he just cares about getting the younger voter to like him. So when Hillary, and Hussien, sling so much Mud at each other they look stupid. He is going to sweep in and save the dems.................NOT.


Here is another Part of the Disorder........

ever notice if you even try to talk about global warming with a lib....it is a closed book NOT EVEN OPEN FOR DEBATE.......HAHAHAHAHAH that is funny.

Like that dumb chic from the weather channel...."if you dont believe the lib view of global warming you should lose your Licenese"....talk about Socialist ding bat......She should be in old USSR...getting the PC camps in Gear.

They way you fix a problem ( if there is one) you debate the problem ,and different ways to fix it...Once you cut off Debate......Your a LIberal.

[notransfer]

i heard about this on the news yesterday...

i think its screwed up lol i dont have much more to say about it...

save the earth while not doing anything to save the earth.

i wanna say hypocrite but thats redundant at this point...

[mrdevious]

ever notice if you even try to talk about global warming with a lib....it is a closed book NOT EVEN OPEN FOR DEBATE.......HAHAHAHAHAH that is funny.


Ever notice that the actions of some liberals are frequently attributed to all liberals? Damn that's convenient. In fact people seem to enjoy doing that with whatever group they're crusading against. Makes the world nice and easy to understand.

[Bong30]

OK so i lump them all together......

what do you think about them cutting off the debate.......??????


When Al Idiot Gore says its the "TRUTH" doesnt leave much room for debate huh?

what about the hollywood liberal idiots? Fly in on there jets and drive up in prius?

What about the lady from the weather channel?

any debate on the points?

[iPot]

The truth is Al Gore is Politician that doesnt really care about the enviroment, he just cares about getting the younger voter to like him. So when Hillary, and Hussien, sling so much Mud at each other they look stupid. He is going to sweep in and save the dems.................NOT.


Here is another Part of the Disorder........

ever notice if you even try to talk about global warming with a lib....it is a closed book NOT EVEN OPEN FOR DEBATE.......HAHAHAHAHAH that is funny.

Like that dumb chic from the weather channel...."if you dont believe the lib view of global warming you should lose your Licenese"....talk about Socialist ding bat......She should be in old USSR...getting the PC camps in Gear.

They way you fix a problem ( if there is one) you debate the problem ,and different ways to fix it...Once you cut off Debate......Your a LIberal.

It is also a closed book with the right wing loons too. Liberals are just by default more emotional people are therefore prone to expressing themselves more inwardly.

Climate change ain't nothing new, nor is large swathes of folk getting all het up about it. there is fuck all we can do about it. I think it is our fault though to a degree though, i mean we are seriously messing with the natural quasi-equilib of the eco, you know.

Regardsless of whether any of its true or not though, we could at least fucking try to make things a bit better. There's a lot of room for improvement....

Anyone heard of the scientific claim that the greenhouse effetct is a crock of shit because the world started to become warmer before CO2 levels started to rise. Some sceptic scientist was on the radio talking about recently when i last visited the UK, but i was too busy pondering the downside of being merrily pissed on a few pints of english bitter whilst at the same time not having a bit of hash to line my pipe to pay full attention. Surely there must be some room for scientific error, both random and systematic. It could be a coincidence that the temperature rose a bit, naturally, before the greenhouse effect kicked in.

By the way I am from Scotlant, but i love english beer.

[Psycho4Bud]

I watched an actor being interviewed on TV last night regarding this. He uses $600 per year in energy which is needed over his solar power, rides bike as much as possible and flys commercial. SOMEONE that practices what they preach.......very ritious if ya ask me! THAT is the type of person they need for the Global Warming crusade, not a hypocrit.

Have a good one!:s4:

[mrdevious]

OK so i lump them all together......

what do you think about them cutting off the debate.......??????


When Al Idiot Gore says its the "TRUTH" doesnt leave much room for debate huh?

what about the hollywood liberal idiots? Fly in on there jets and drive up in prius?

What about the lady from the weather channel?

any debate on the points?

Debate? You may be surprised by this bong, but I agree with you! I'm not terribly impressed by the sheltered egocentric view of delusional liberal extremists, particularily the ones in Hollywood. Anything and everything should be open for debate, regardless of how much or how little it mirrors the views of the majority. All I'm saying is that you seem to be basing a hatred of everything liberal on the actions of a select few. I can guarantee you that you'll find a person from any ideology with views that are repulsive. This is why I have a general policy of calling it as I see it, as blind allegience, or defiance, to a single side/group/person is never going to have pure good or evil come of it.

[Bong30]

Cool Mr D.......


when you cut off debate.....its over, mine as well be china we live in....



why do the libs want to use global warming as a platform? what are they going to do with it?

We know the Lib elite dont care about the enviroment, so why are they marching this around town? it is for no good, ill tell you that.

Like the bitch on the weather channel...."if you dont believe in Global warming "lib way" you should lose your JOB..WTF DO WE LIVE IN NAZI GERMANY.....STFU weather channel bitch and lets talk about it....

[eg420ne]

Did anyone do a fact check on this report or do you think its true because sum1 made up a fake company that had gores electric bill handy the day after he won the oscur... as i have read what gore uses, he does have SOLAR PANELS.... Dont let the right-wing(i mean p4b) take y'all for a spin...

(Think Progress (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/hannity-gore/):)

– In his private life, Gore tries to reduce his emissions as much as possible. He drives a hybrid, flies commercially whenever he can, and purchases green power. In the few instances where work has demanded that he travel privately, he purchases carbon offsets for the emissions.

And according to a report filed this afternoon on Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255203,00.html):

Al Gore's office is responding to criticism over his energy consumption at his Nashville mansion by saying the former vice president is signed up for a program to consume 100 percent green power — has installed solar panels and uses compact fluorescent bulbs.

[suhl]

gore is a hypocrite, i dont think this changes anything about inconvenient truth. and somewhat to the point i have been looking at these political forums lately and i think it is funny that bong30 calls people who believe in conspiricies tin foil hat types, then in a seperate post he says global warming is bullshit propaganda made up by liberals for votes. to me that screams conspiracy. pretty damn funny. gore is a hypcrite and a dull boring asshole, but global warming is still real, i am going to take the word of thousands of respectable scientists over a few scientists and people who think the liberals are out to control peoples minds, that is my opinion on it.

[Hardcore Newbie]

I don't think it's as easy as just wondering if this is a man made phenomena or if it's natural. That's not the point. The point in my understanding is that we've never had so many immobile civilizations so close to the water, that moving them isn't an easy option, let alone all the money that might be lost if the polar ice caps shrink enough.

We have to assess whether we want to relocate all these people, or do something about the climate, man made or natural.

[medicinal]

Global warming has many effects, like colder winters in certain parts of the world. How about tornados in february, thats a new deal. We can poo-paw it all we want but it is here and it will not get better by it's self. Can we stop it, I doubt man has the will to curtail his life style untill he is forced to. All you nay sayers might want to help your children move to higher ground before you pass on If you live on the coast. Do I know what will happen, Hell no, I live at 2600 ft. altitude, I doubt it will affect me, but you guys in Laguna beach and costal california might want to think about flood insurance. It will probably not happen in our lifetimes, but in a couple a hundred years, who knows.

[Psycho4Bud]

In his private life, Gore tries to reduce his emissions as much as possible. He drives a hybrid, flies commercially whenever he can, and purchases green power. In the few instances where work has demanded that he travel privately, he purchases carbon offsets for the emissions.

Purchases carbon offsets.......must be nice to be able to spend additional money in order to ease your conscience.;) What a guy!

What ya gonna say when Prisonplanet covers this??:D

Have a good one!:s4:

[eg420ne]

They already have, prisonplanet dont like gore ...

[Zimzum]

Global warming is like the warning on cigarette packs. Some just pay more attention to the surgeon general's comments then others. Quiting now may reduce serious effects down the road.

[Psycho4Bud]

.... Dont let the right-wing(i mean p4b) take y'all for a spin...


They already have, prisonplanet dont like gore ...

So are you saying that Prisonplanet is right wing or that they lie? :D

Now we all know that they are far from right wing so you MUST be stating that this dirty son-of-a-bitch is just out to rape the weak minded for membership fees and video sales.........I couldn't agree more with ya eg420ne!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

[latewood]

this is so sad. light up another one. I can't even comment on the hypocrisy in this thread.

Well, considering that the Government has always misled the public, and denied same the truth. One has to conclude that the large world of scientists that confirm global warming is totally convincing...too bad I am just another feeble minded sheep. One thing I know for sure...If the Government says it isn't true...It's True!

Just for the record I am not pro Bush or Gore. I think Everything should be based on the public vote. fuck the Parties!

At first glance I was skeptical about these latest articles, but also my intuition was that it was just further Bullshit Propaganda coming thru the back channels of Halli-Burton. Peace

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Global warming is like the warning on cigarette packs. Some just pay more attention to the surgeon general's comments than others. Quiting now may reduce serious effects down the road.

that warning is based on empirical data and extensive scientific study. the research is documented and the experimentation has been duplicated yielding similar results. this isn't to say we might not have been lied to, but the hard data does exist.

on the other hand....

global warming is based on a theoretical model and extrapolations grounded in a limited understanding of long term global weather patterns. since no reliable data exists covering the causes for weather change over a significant period of time, all results must be considered inconclusive. this isn't to say there might not be some truth to the theory, but it cannot be considered to be proven fact.

do you understand the difference? empirical data vs. theoretical modeling. despite the hype and political warfare surrounding the theory it is still nothing more than that, a theory. though reducing mankind's footprint on the environment is prudent, using the scare tactic of a global warming emergency to force radical immediate change is nothing more than political posing and irresponsible manipulation. those who choose to blindly follow the leaders of this campaign may have the best of intentions, but that is no excuse for yielding to this politically incited hysteria.

[Bong30]

this is so sad. light up another one. I can't even comment on the hypocrisy in this thread.

you are the hypocricy in this thread...

Well, considering that the Government has always misled the public, and denied same the truth.

Its OK latewood the Goverment isnt out to get you... you dont mount to a hill of beans....

One has to conclude that the large world of scientists that confirm global warming is totally convincing...too bad I am just another feeble minded sheep.

you are a fible minded sheep....YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. YOU CLOSE THREADS THAT WANT TO DEBATE THIS TOPIC. YOU SUCK.


One thing I know for sure...If the Government says it isn't true...It's True!


THAT IS CAUSE YOU HAVE A MENTAL DISORDER CALLED LIBERALISM....

Healthy questioning of the goverment is good, but once you think it is all bad... you are lost.

Just for the record I am not pro Bush or Gore. I think Everything should be based on the public vote. fuck the Parties!

Sorry Latewood...Or system Is Based on a 2 party system, It isnt perfect, but the best on the planet.


At first glance I was skeptical about these latest articles, but also my intuition was that it was just further Bullshit Propaganda coming thru the back channels of Halli-Burton.

NO...wrong.. it ithat there is still a debate about global warming and we should be open to all sides?

Lets see the dinosaurs didnt have cars and they are gone? Humm?????? ever wonder that it doesnt matter what we do... when mother earth wants us gone we are gone.....

But now the left is using Global warming as a political front, as a matter a fact Gore did it for votes form the MTV generation....


Peace

Peace that.....

[Zimzum]

LOL bong. I like your thing about dinosaurs tho. But lets not wait till it's too late before we find out we're natures next dinosaur. Sometimes in life ass kissing is needed, boss or nature. Global warming ideas might not be 100% but if it takes some change to lower consumption and reduce pollution then is that really a bad thing at all? Cooperations would extend there profit margins if MPG in cars jumped up 50-100%. Oil won't be around forever. At some point the taps WILL dry out. Maybe Exxon's way of looking at a retirement plan?

[Bong30]

The taps will dry out...

see Zim what we need is a Price floor....If gas never went below say...4 bucks a gallon... we would be driving other type of cars by now....,but when gas goes to 1.50 a gallon we get in our SUVs ( i have a Toyota Land cruiser ..Sick) and just cruise around like nothing.

Necessity is mother of invention......

And When Our Time on Earth is Over its Over.....Cars no cARS, Pollution no Pollution......
Dinos didnt have cars....they are gone? Hummm??????

[latewood]

If an asteroid hits the earth..no more people...dinosaurs asteroid no dinosaurs.

That has nothing to do with the topic.