SwirlyMass
02-18-2007, 02:15 AM
Click the back button if you don't want to hear about politics, the future of humanity or what my beliefs are considering the reason of the universe.
Now that only 2% of you are left, let me begin with saying that our current situations and problems are nothing, they will either be fixed or we will die, or at least we will be bound to make the exact same mistakes over and over until we do kill ourselves.
What can we learn from global warming? This is the first time we have managed to change our atmosphere to such a large extent.
So let me orient you to our surroundings as I see them, we have certain needs for survival because we evolved in a place where they seem to be constant. Needs like oxygen, a temperature variance so narrow that if you take some basic examples like the sun and pluto. the sun being a giant nuclear reactor burning at around 27,000,000° Fahrenheit (15,000,000° C) at it's core and Pluto being about -369° F. We live at around -15° F to 120° F at he worst extremes. We also need nutrients usually obtained by food, which comes from plants that are also dependent on very specific circumstances.
So I'd say we're pretty vulnerable in the long run, hell the sun is more than half way through its life, and at the end of its life it will fry the earth like bacon on a red hot skillet. But thats a long long long long way off.
So i like to think that we are important and that our survival means something to the universe. Unfortunately unless we discover we're in a little glass sphere with all the other galaxies painted on and someday we break out and find God, giggling incessantly like a schoolgirl, which is is doubtful, the reality is we don't mean shit, our entire civilization is tantamount to the the splash of a rain drop in the ocean, during a torrential downpour. As it is right now, we don't....mean......shit.
Except to ourselves, if that weren't true I wouldn't be typing all of this now.
So in order for us to be more than that little spec in the infinite we need to understand our surroundings, really get a grip on cause and effect. Cause and effect can be simple or it can be vastly complex. On the scale that we see every day it can be simple. You get grape juice on your pants and they get stained. But on a planetary scale they are far more complex for a single person to a realistic model in their mind. There are so many forces working in tandem that are dependent on each other. Like dominoes set in a circle, you push one past the point of stability and they are all effected.
So instead of solving global warming by treating the effect, which could be many things like increased heat, increased CO2, giant masses of frozen water suddenly being liquefied; we need to start with the cause, find a solution that will NOT have the same or similar effects and come up with ways to turn the effects it does have into something less detrimental.
I call it Global damage reduction. Like if we found a way to artificially create fuel from a renewable source, like with ethanol we have to understand what will happen when we start using it, so if it releases massive amounts of Acetaldehyde and we currently know of a plant or a micro organism that metabolizes Acetaldehyde into oxygen or nitrogen or even something else that could be used like hydrogen then you have officially Created an energy source and since ever action has an equal and opposite reaction, you have taken the detrimental part of that reaction and used it to be beneficial as well.
Of course that scenario was highly unlikely but its the kind of process we need to instate when working with new technologies that we don't have long term experience with.
So lets not fuck up our chance to evolve into something much greater than we are now. If anything, it should be to prove to ourselves that we are responsible enough to handle what we have been given.
I want my children to have more than I did, not less. So we need to progress in the right direction and be responsible about our knowledge and most of all we need to know our own limits.
To me we could be the little zit on the ass of the universe and as if we don't have enough to worry about with that universe popping us (with a black hole or a nicely placed shot with an asteroid), we seem to be swelling ourselves up, and theres a good chance when this pimple comes to a head, its gonna pop.
I'll keep all my ranting confined to this thread from now on, this one didn't quite satisfy me as i didn't illustrate my entire point and i didn't even get across the point i was trying to but im tired and burning out so i need to go get high.
:hippy: :jointsmile: :jointsmile: :jointsmile:
Now that only 2% of you are left, let me begin with saying that our current situations and problems are nothing, they will either be fixed or we will die, or at least we will be bound to make the exact same mistakes over and over until we do kill ourselves.
What can we learn from global warming? This is the first time we have managed to change our atmosphere to such a large extent.
So let me orient you to our surroundings as I see them, we have certain needs for survival because we evolved in a place where they seem to be constant. Needs like oxygen, a temperature variance so narrow that if you take some basic examples like the sun and pluto. the sun being a giant nuclear reactor burning at around 27,000,000° Fahrenheit (15,000,000° C) at it's core and Pluto being about -369° F. We live at around -15° F to 120° F at he worst extremes. We also need nutrients usually obtained by food, which comes from plants that are also dependent on very specific circumstances.
So I'd say we're pretty vulnerable in the long run, hell the sun is more than half way through its life, and at the end of its life it will fry the earth like bacon on a red hot skillet. But thats a long long long long way off.
So i like to think that we are important and that our survival means something to the universe. Unfortunately unless we discover we're in a little glass sphere with all the other galaxies painted on and someday we break out and find God, giggling incessantly like a schoolgirl, which is is doubtful, the reality is we don't mean shit, our entire civilization is tantamount to the the splash of a rain drop in the ocean, during a torrential downpour. As it is right now, we don't....mean......shit.
Except to ourselves, if that weren't true I wouldn't be typing all of this now.
So in order for us to be more than that little spec in the infinite we need to understand our surroundings, really get a grip on cause and effect. Cause and effect can be simple or it can be vastly complex. On the scale that we see every day it can be simple. You get grape juice on your pants and they get stained. But on a planetary scale they are far more complex for a single person to a realistic model in their mind. There are so many forces working in tandem that are dependent on each other. Like dominoes set in a circle, you push one past the point of stability and they are all effected.
So instead of solving global warming by treating the effect, which could be many things like increased heat, increased CO2, giant masses of frozen water suddenly being liquefied; we need to start with the cause, find a solution that will NOT have the same or similar effects and come up with ways to turn the effects it does have into something less detrimental.
I call it Global damage reduction. Like if we found a way to artificially create fuel from a renewable source, like with ethanol we have to understand what will happen when we start using it, so if it releases massive amounts of Acetaldehyde and we currently know of a plant or a micro organism that metabolizes Acetaldehyde into oxygen or nitrogen or even something else that could be used like hydrogen then you have officially Created an energy source and since ever action has an equal and opposite reaction, you have taken the detrimental part of that reaction and used it to be beneficial as well.
Of course that scenario was highly unlikely but its the kind of process we need to instate when working with new technologies that we don't have long term experience with.
So lets not fuck up our chance to evolve into something much greater than we are now. If anything, it should be to prove to ourselves that we are responsible enough to handle what we have been given.
I want my children to have more than I did, not less. So we need to progress in the right direction and be responsible about our knowledge and most of all we need to know our own limits.
To me we could be the little zit on the ass of the universe and as if we don't have enough to worry about with that universe popping us (with a black hole or a nicely placed shot with an asteroid), we seem to be swelling ourselves up, and theres a good chance when this pimple comes to a head, its gonna pop.
I'll keep all my ranting confined to this thread from now on, this one didn't quite satisfy me as i didn't illustrate my entire point and i didn't even get across the point i was trying to but im tired and burning out so i need to go get high.
:hippy: :jointsmile: :jointsmile: :jointsmile: