Hey Stinky, Please look at my Hawaiian Snow...

[Treetops]

Out of 5 fem seeds this is how my Hawaiian Snow is growing...No center kola...its like a "lowrydr" strain...Maybe this is good, but I'm not happy..

First 2 pics are from when it was under a 150 cfl, then the next 2 are since she has been under the 150 hps all week, not much change...

Whats your thoughts?
Thanks

:(

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

I'm not Stinky, and I don't have any help, but I do have a question.
Can you explain your setup to me? I am digging on your Folger's cans. I save them, and my fiance never saw any reason for me doing so. Now I can tell him there's a darn good reason LOL!
I'm clueless about hydro. Do your plants sit in water all the time, and then you add nutrients as necessary? How often do you change the water?

It's so cute!:D

[Treetops]

Mrs. GreenJeans..
Can you explain your setup to me? I am digging on your Folger's cans. I save them, and my fiance never saw any reason for me doing so. Now I can tell him there's a darn good reason LOL!
I'm clueless about hydro. Do your plants sit in water all the time, and then you add nutrients as necessary? How often do you change the water?

Well, The plants are about a 1/2" above the water in the net pots. I add my nutes after about a month...I usually change water after a week of topping off with ph adjusted water..
Each one has its own air stone, cant have enough air...I use small ones to start out, then just put them in the bigger ones as they grow...

Now you have your reason to use all your saved ones...I always used MaxwellHouse coffee cans when I grew in my soilless mix...This is much easier now..Enjoy..

[Treetops]

I'm not stinky either, but i know she is experienced with soil growing, hydro ain't her thing.

It looks like it might be a two headed monster once you get it growin.

I see you have successful flowers on the side of one of those pics, have you experienced this with any other of your plants?

Is that nute burn i see on the leaves?

There will be several heads for sure, but this isnt the way its supposed to be in my book...and no its a first for this....Thats why I'm not too happy...

Not sure if its nute burn or not...maybe?

[JackdaWack]

well the plant decided to be a bush for what ever reason, it maybe genetics or the fem seeds it could be a number of reasons, the 150 cfl on top and good light training, depends. more details how long in are these, weeks? If they are getting burnt from a alittle bit of nutes they may not be ready for flower, but u can force anyway and it will work good, u may have a delay in flower if u burnt them or they werent ready to flower, but i mean its not gonna be that much of a stunt, they will take off very soon just watch, my big buds looked skinny and well just not a whole lot of plant matter, but in the matter of 3 days the leaves bulked up.

[dusto2k3]

Dam, i'm a soilless guy too. Make sure the ph is good (very important) and just flush them. See what happens. The leaves look pale, is that the case?

[MisterE]

I have my clone in a folgers can too. But the light goes right through them, so I wrapped mine in heavy duty foil which makes them quite dark inside.

I'm not sure if this could be part of your issue, only you would know if the water/roots smell or feel or look like there's algae.

[Treetops]

Forgot a couple of things about her....She has been growing now over 60 days..5.8 ph...and under 150 cfl up until this last weekend, now under 150watt hps...
That is my main reason to ask Stinky, as I am not too happy with Green House seeds, this is the only one left out of 5 fem seeds..I wasnt safisifed with the results..wanted replacement seeds, but since I live in the U.S. was told by Franco I couldnt get replacement seeds unless I was in Amsterdam and then he would hook me up...Gee thanks Franco...

[MisterE]

Could the stem/main root be strangled on something? It could be just the CFL and they've been wanting more lumens. How strong are the nutes? Just throwing things out there. 60 days I'd think they'd have taken off.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Thanks 4 the info Treetops!

[JackdaWack]

60 days and they look like there at day 20, something is up, i doubt you did anything mainly contributing to the lack of growth, at 60 days with poor growing they would still be bigger.

[Treetops]

60 days and they look like there at day 20, something is up, i doubt you did anything mainly contributing to the lack of growth, at 60 days with poor growing they would still be bigger.

Thanks for checkin it out...Yeah, I'm a rookie, but all the other pot I've grown never did this...and this aint no bag seed...Its now an $83.+ plant.. I use ESU Grow Juice, 1/4 the amt..It is getting a flush as we speak..as it is now in 12/12 so much for Green House seeds...:(

[latewood]

well if you ask me...2 things...not enough fluid to hold enough nutes is onr thing...the nutes you can put in that coffee can will get used by a healthy plant in hours...leaving water for the rest of the week.

the lights are inadequate for the most part, and you are getting impatient.

OK 3 things. Lowryder is a bad choice if you want to see monsters growing out of you closet, because Lowryder was bred for med patients with limitation fo space and funds...It is self flowering, and not as potent as Indica, and nothing like a good Sativ. It is a smaller growing plant.

I would get me some 5 gallon buckets or 4-5 gallon tubs, and change out my nute solution every 7 days. No longer. Peace

[stinkyattic]

Although I <3 your faith in my abilities, I am a total nOOb when it comes to playing in the water!
These guys are waaaay more smarterer than I is.

[Treetops]

well if you ask me...2 things...not enough fluid to hold enough nutes is onr thing...the nutes you can put in that coffee can will get used by a healthy plant in hours...leaving water for the rest of the week.

the lights are inadequate for the most part, and you are getting impatient.

OK 3 things. Lowryder is a bad choice if you want to see monsters growing out of you closet, because Lowryder was bred for med patients with limitation fo space and funds...It is self flowering, and not as potent as Indica, and nothing like a good Sativ. It is a smaller growing plant.

I would get me some 5 gallon buckets or 4-5 gallon tubs, and change out my nute solution every 7 days. No longer. Peace


Latewood..Thanks for taking a look...I would agree with you except for the fact I've been growing like this successfully, well I'm still getting it fine tuned, but it works well, except for this Hawaiian Snow...
She did take to the new light...She may turn out alright after all..

Second Pic is my experimental grow....They arent beautys but beauty is in the eye of the beholder....

Oh, I top off every day, with ph'd/Nuted water, and completely change water once a week...You did see my roots of my plant? That to me says a lot...That plant is healthy big time....All I'm saying is, this is how I grow...


Last pic, last grow...sorry its not that clear....

:thumbsup:

[Treetops]

Although I <3 your faith in my abilities, I am a total nOOb when it comes to playing in the water!
These guys are waaaay more smarterer than I is.

Ok, Stinky...Thanks for being honest about it...Maybe now is the time to try tomatos hydro..to kinda get your fingers "wet"...I always enjoy your come backs.....Love it...Thanks..:jointsmile:

[Shermania]

I'm not stinky either...

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

So how's the Snow White doing?

[Treetops]

Still nothing from Franco at Green House seeds as far as my replacement seed pack..but I am still trying...

:thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

Still nothing from Franco at Green House seeds as far as my replacement seed pack..:
Replacement for the seeds that you popped to grow that plant?
Sorry to rain on your parade, but once that seed pops open, the vendor's job is done (unless you can prove they sent you the WRONG strain)

[Treetops]

Remember this was the "one" and only that made it out of 5...and my battle is still ongoing...

[alwayssleepdeprived]

Have all your coffee pots made the roots look like that?

it looks from the pic that the plant had most of it's roots coming straight out the bottom...I'm not sure how they should grow but in my aero setup they definately make it out all sides of the net, maybe you could get smaller pellets? I used the hydroton but I'm not happy with balls laying on developing roots and forcing them to grow in narrow paths where they don't get much o2 cause the hydroton stays soaked...this might be more apparent in aero setups though as I have little xp with other hydros

I'm planning to use a fluffy medium that's clipped to the lid for the next grow and have the roots support themselves off the net I'm not sure if they have nets that are like grids which would allow the roots to wind down to the water and help em stand up how they want but this sounds much better to me for growth especially since you want them to avoid being squished together

I'm not sure on this but it would stand to reason that root growth relates quite closely in some ratio or another to leaf growth As I understand the more surface area each root has exposed the more effective it is at drawing solution this should keep root development lower promoting more veg

PS don't worry about no cola if the plant is healthy as long as shoots have unubstructed paths to the light they will bud just the same