What comes after death?

[Xhoshi]

I have been contemplating this forever and it is the most important question I have. What do you think will happen? Modern science says that humans are just material that will decompose and our minds will fade out of existence like a spark of elecricity and this life we live is as far as we go. What I'd like to believe is that when we pass away, we will return to our true essence, and merge with the collective, unseen energy that makes up our universe. What do you believe?

[xxxhazexxx]

nothing your DEAD

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

something along the lines of that...


there is no such thing as death, only life, that which is, is alive, has life, has mind, body, and soul.

when we decompose, we are only changing. our minds change, our bodies change, our souls change, and adapt to fit the situation at hand.

we will be rocks, we will be dirt, we will be feces, we will be plants, we will be animals, and eventually, we will be humans again.

the change of life also changes the mind drastically, altering our memories, blocking out past life memories we might not be able to cope with, or understand.



i am an omnitheist, i believe in the infinite all. there is an infinite variaty of every infinite thing.


infinite alternate realities, infinite souls, soulmates, twinsouls, infinite planets, universes, stars, and infinities.

all which exists is the mind. the mind is like a single celled organism, it divides itself into alternate copies of itself, all that exists is mind, and the infinite divisions and manifestations thereof.

[Polymirize]

shhh... it's supposed to be a surprise.

And anyone who says different is probably selling something.

[jsn9333]

I believe our earthly bodies will decompose... ashes to ashes, dust to dust as the Bible says. As for our minds, however, I believe we will be judged by God. I believe all have rejected God at one point or another either through lying, stealing, cheating, and a variety of other sins that are forbidden and hated by God. I believe those who heard the good news of Christ's death on the cross for man's sins and turned to Him in love and faith have been forgiven and will spend eternal life with God. I believe those who rejected God's offer of eternal life through Christ will go to an eternal death... most likely an eternity of suffering because they rejected their creator.

As for those who have never heard of Christ, I believe they will be judged by what they did know of God... through nature, His omni-presence, etc. and no one who rejected Him will have any excuse as to why they rejected His love and His ways. I've been on mission trips (to share the good news of God's saving grace) to several countries including Iran and China where it is illegal to tell people about Christ. In those trips I've come across people who had never had contact with Christian missionaries and yet say Christ came to them in a dream told them of His sacrifice for them. I have no doubt that God will reach with the gospel all who are going to believe in Him... whether through missionaries, nature, dreams, or any other means.

I believe all these things because that is what the Christian Scriptures teach. They are not necessarily what I would personally choose to believe, but I have no choice... I didn't write the book! The Bible has changed my life for the better so many times, and God has spoken personally to me through it in so many ways that I cannot deny it as the Word of God written to me and all of mankind.


I have been contemplating this forever and it is the most important question I have. What do you think will happen? Modern science says that humans are just material that will decompose and our minds will fade out of existence like a spark of elecricity and this life we live is as far as we go. What I'd like to believe is that when we pass away, we will return to our true essence, and merge with the collective, unseen energy that makes up our universe. What do you believe?

[delusionsofNORMALity]

i cheated and looked at the end of the book.

the worms did it.

:S5:

[PatrickHenry]

Nobody knows man but I'm guessing not much. You become part of the earth, what once made you, now makes other things. It's a huge cycle.

Like Buddha says, just focus on what you have now, we have no way of knowing what will happen. Your life will carry on forever through your actions in this life and your family will grow to contain a part of your soul. Physically, your body will be gone, it will be part of the earth harvesting new life.

Smoke a bowl and watch Baraka; you will no longer wonder about dying, you will just accept it and be happy to face it!

[PatrickHenry]

i like to hope theres something after death...
not like an eternity of bliss, thats no fun.
Just something that proves i had a good meaning full life.
I want to die knowing the world is better then how it was when i came
some form of reassurance would be nice

So work on that! Go volunteer, give some money to a homeless guy on the street, get as much education as you can and pass your knowledge on to others! That will make the world better!

The feeling you will get from such acts will make you happy, trust me! :hippy:

[Oneironaut]

Your brain, which contains everything you know, your entire personality, and all your subjective experiences, will decompose with the rest of your body. The mind and the brain are not two separate things; they are one physical organ in your body, which is proved by the fact that physical damage and physical alteration to the brain changes the way that your mind works. Your thought processes, your emotions, your memory, it's all an extremely complex arrangement of trillions of nerve cells.

If your brain is 10% destroyed, you lose 10% of your mind's ability to do what it does. If your brain is 50% destroyed, you lose 50% of your mind's ability to do what it does. If your brain is 100% destroyed, you lose 100% of your mind's ability to do what it does. There is no reason to suppose that it suddenly and magically regains all its lost abilities and floats off to some other dimension where it will live happily ever after. It's never been observed, there's no known mechanism which could possibly explain how it would work, and the only reason anybody takes the idea seriously is that they (understandably) are scared shitless by the prospect that their existence is going to be temporary, and the prospect that all their dead loved ones really don't exist any more.

Think about it: if somebody has a brain disorder from birth, and they grow up mentally retarded, are they still retarded in the afterlife, even though there's no physical brain to have a problem with? Or do they suddenly develop the intelligence and personality of a non-retarded person, thus becoming, essentially, a completely different person? The brain is the mind, and the mind is the brain. The death of the brain is the death of the mind.

[nikweiser]

its going to be like a dream..in a way, take DMT and you will know what death is like, im just waiting for the day to continue my spiritual adventure.

[Oneironaut]

I still think that the people who believe they will have an awesome afterlife with eternal bliss or whatever must have their doubts. Why would you even try to avoid death if you were absolutely sure that your afterlife was going to be super-cool?

[nikweiser]

no i take advantage of my life, im going to live this to the fullest because yes i do have my doubts, it could just be blank space when we are dead...
but did you know our body produces DMT when our bodies sleep? its from the penile gland (no not PEE NILE) which is between our eyes, and when we die that gland bursts... which is what is produced to make us dream...

[PatrickHenry]

no i take advantage of my life, im going to live this to the fullest because yes i do have my doubts, it could just be blank space when we are dead...
but did you know our body produces DMT when our bodies sleep? its from the penile gland (no not PEE NILE) which is between our eyes, and when we die that gland bursts... which is what is produced to make us dream...

I've heard about that, pretty trippy!

[Polymirize]

penile gland (no not PEE NILE) which is between our eyes, and when we die that gland bursts... which is what is produced to make us dream...

That's because its the pinal gland...

[Polymirize]

Your brain, which contains everything you know, your entire personality, and all your subjective experiences, will decompose with the rest of your body. The mind and the brain are not two separate things; they are one physical organ in your body, which is proved by the fact that physical damage and physical alteration to the brain changes the way that your mind works. Your thought processes, your emotions, your memory, it's all an extremely complex arrangement of trillions of nerve cells.

If your brain is 10% destroyed, you lose 10% of your mind's ability to do what it does. If your brain is 50% destroyed, you lose 50% of your mind's ability to do what it does. If your brain is 100% destroyed, you lose 100% of your mind's ability to do what it does.

The brain is the mind, and the mind is the brain. The death of the brain is the death of the mind.

Rather redundant, but also false. You seem to ignore all the findings concerning the remarkably plasticity of the brain, and its ability to adapt and function even after being damaged. Even within the fully developed adult brain.

I know you've got this whole materialist paradigm going on for you, but if you're going to make wild claims I'd like to see evidence backing them up, as opposed to just the regular dogma.

[noruth]

If Elvis was alive today he would be scratching and clawing trying to get out of the casket.

[robert42]

u could spend ur whole live tryin to figure it out

u'd only go crazy

PEACE

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

like me! :yippee:

[delusionsofNORMALity]

if elvis were alive today he'd be really pissed at the mess the worms had made of his suit.

[sam44]

no i take advantage of my life, im going to live this to the fullest because yes i do have my doubts, it could just be blank space when we are dead...
but did you know our body produces DMT when our bodies sleep? its from the penile gland (no not PEE NILE) which is between our eyes, and when we die that gland bursts... which is what is produced to make us dream...

It has been suggested that when the pinile gland bursts, it is possible that someone could live out entire lifetimes in their dreams, right before they die. If you have ever had a lucid dream, you would realize that reality is in our minds, and this is entirely possible. How do you know the life you are living right now isn't merley a figment of your imagination? Time is wildly distorted in dreams, so I believe that in the seconds before we die, our body thrusts us into an infinite dream (a self-defense against the unimaginable concept of non-existence), so at least in our minds, we could live forever.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

it's pineal, damn it. you're driving me insane. i know it's a short trip, but it's really hard to get back.:p

[Gatekeeper777]

If your good you get to lay in a field of hemp with unlimited papers and a lighter.
If you were bad you get to lay in the field but no way to light up.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

it's pineal, damn it. you're driving me insane. i know it's a short trip, but it's really hard to get back.:p


lol that was bugging me too XD

[FLORIDA MON]

I plan to live forever.:angelsmiley:

[Polymirize]

it's pineal, damn it. you're driving me insane. i know it's a short trip, but it's really hard to get back.:p

yeah, you got it. Still, at least I was closer than penile...

[sam44]

yea im pretty amazing right?

[Pass That Shit]

What comes after death? LIFE

We can't prove it. It has been proven. Bank on it.

Right on JSN :thumbsup:


"In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;"

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

[Demeter]

I have been contemplating this forever and it is the most important question I have. What do you think will happen? Modern science says that humans are just material that will decompose and our minds will fade out of existence like a spark of elecricity and this life we live is as far as we go. What I'd like to believe is that when we pass away, we will return to our true essence, and merge with the collective, unseen energy that makes up our universe. What do you believe?

I hope for that too.

[Polymirize]

Since when has it become our universe? You have no idea how many beings we share the universe with. That's kind of selfish to claim it as our own. Especially since we don't even know much about it.


I actually want to take issue with that same assumption, but for different reasons.

Because, actually, this is my universe. Which would of course, include the earth...

I should really be getting some kind of royalties or something...

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I plan to live forever.:angelsmiley:

we all live forever, for life is all that is.



do you mean you intend to sustain your body indefinitely?


good luck and lots of cannabis!

[delusionsofNORMALity]

....I should really be getting some kind of royalties or something...

we posted your check over a week ago, i'm surprised you haven't received it yet. i'll look into the matter as soon as i get back to the office. next time notify us as soon as possible and we will try to find a better way of delivering your payments.

sorry for the inconvenience.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

it's pineal, damn it. you're driving me insane.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! You KNOW I was going through the same thing in my head!

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

According to this dictionary I found on the shelf, debacle comes after death. So there you have it.
Death, and then eternal bullshit. No different than life.

[sm0k1t]

I understand why this kind of question drives us to many idealistic conclusions since we always try to make our place in life thinking it must stay like this forever. But what I think is that we might possibly dream after death for some time wich can seem forever so maybe its closer to reality than our short present lives...and thats fine but is it really important... I'd like that and maybe its the case but I cant prove it so let it be possibilities wich are nice and infinite

And for those who see death as the end of the mind and and brain like oneironaut, its perfectly reasonable and I think its what science seems to show now so be it. but why be scared of the end when we all now that new life arises every day on earth...what if we work hard to make earth the greatess place to live possible so that the life that we know to come by every day may have the best new life as time goes by? hope I'm clear with the point im making

so for me death is the end of ME, my thoughts, knowledge, mind but they may still live on and be remembered but it wont be ME..I'm dead and thats actually a relief cause that makes place for a new life to come by. Also, I dont think we should be scared of the end of us since nothingness is not felt nor boring right? if thjere is such a thing as nothing. To be more concrete...life is like playing an RPG game...you have a life and you might die while living it and if you do well...you start a new game..new character etc just like a new born..ok ok the difference here is that its not the same sequence of life like in a game.

anyway..make the best with the time givin to you thats the way to go period

peace

[sam44]

or may wake up taking your first breath out of a coma

like that explosions in the sky song?

[delusionsofNORMALity]

this universe and everything in it was put here for my amusement. at the moment of my death there will be no further use for any of it. once i take my final breath everything and everyone will cease to exist.

you'd all better hope i live a long long time.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

this universe and everything in it was put here for my amusement. at the moment of my death there will be no further use for any of it. once i take my final breath everything and everyone will cease to exist.

you'd all better hope i live a long long time.

we're a lot alike... only im immortal.

[Big boi]

i want to live with the beavers after i die

[BigNugs4U]

For those who believe death is final and when you die you simply decompose, that would indicate that we have no soul. So would i understand correctly that you believe humans have no soul? I dont see how you could believe that we just die and that we do have a soul at the same time. But if you dont believe in the sould then the thought of just decomposing could make a little sense.

[BigNugs4U]

I believe our souls are manifested through, directly linked with, our minds.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

we're a lot alike... only im immortal.

that's what you think. i'll be dead pretty soon and we'll see whose right then.

[moretoweed]

you know when u go to sleep and wake up and u didnt dream so that hole night was just like a black space thats what i think is going to happen when we die nothing your not even gonna know you were alive or that your dead

[Dave Byrd]

I view death as the end of the mind and the brain and the body. I don't know whether we have spirits or not that live on. On an emotionaly level,I would hope so but don't really believe so intellectually. If we do, I hope there's some postmortem convergence with the earth and the universe.

I think death is like nothingness. Like the nothingness before we were born. Or when we're completely blanked out under anesthesia. Nada. The journey across from life to death is sometimes an adventure. But when the electrical activity stops in the brain and breathing and circulation stop, it certainly looks like nothingness clinically.

[Matt the Funk]

I forgot what iwas gonna say, but if you think their is nothing....how do you explain ghosts?

[Polymirize]

how do you explain ghosts?

dunno... drugs?

[Matt the Funk]

dunno... drugs?

No way...I've seen ghosts since I can remember. I've even talked to one or two before...

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

that's what you think. i'll be dead pretty soon and we'll see whose right then.


come now, we both know it's me! my ego is so huge it can sustain YOU after we BOTH die!

[pm_BigBud]

EVERYBODY KNOWS SUMMERLAND COMES AFTER DEATH.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

only for TV stars on the WB.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

come now, we both know it's me! my ego is so huge it can sustain YOU after we BOTH die!

i remember the one time i was wrong just as if it were yesterday. i had made this pretty little planet filled with all sorts of trees and bushes and furry little critters, a real eden if you will, then i went and spoiled it all by creating these hairless apes. they pissed on the trees, they burned all the bushes and they clubbed anything that moved over the head. i'll never make that mistake again.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i remember the one time i was wrong just as if it were yesterday. i had made this pretty little planet filled with all sorts of trees and bushes and furry little critters, a real eden if you will, then i went and spoiled it all by creating these hairless apes. they pissed on the trees, they burned all the bushes and they clubbed anything that moved over the head. i'll never make that mistake again.



QUESTION IS, why dont you CORRECT your mistakes, "GOD"?


which is the lesser evil, hmm? killing your unruly children, or permitting them to defile harmony?


who is the greater good?

[JunkYard]

The real question is why don't WE correct OUR mistakes? We have been given a paradise to do with what we will; it's only a matter of time before humanity comes to its senses. The after is of little importance compared to what we already have. Quiet the mind, then put away the selfish man, and become that which you were meant to be in the now...


Love,


:smokin:

[delusionsofNORMALity]

QUESTION IS, why dont you CORRECT your mistakes, "GOD"?

after the whole crucifixion fiasco i just gave up. i figured that if i sent the kid down he might be able to sort of straighten things out, boy was i wrong. i sent him out to steer y'all back onto the right road with a little info about peace and love and gettin' along and what happens. he manages to get a bunch of the little pissers worshiping HIM! that was one of the things i wanted to get straight in the first place, all this worship crapola; but no, he has to confuse the issue even more. well, that's when i said "enough's enough". i brought the kid back home and grounded him for a couple of eons.

since then i've been watchin' you folks and, though you've been really entertaining at times, i have to tell you i'm a bit perturbed. i've decided to just give up on this whole mess and let you guys fend for yerselves. i've got my eye on this nice little planet a couple of light years away, not too big and not too small. it's got a few bugs to work out, but don't they all.

well, good bye and good luck. i wish you all the best. maybe i'll drop by toward the end of eternity just to see how you've fared.











you can call me G














peace

[JunkYard]

^^lmao^^

Hey, G! Tell the kid I said hello, would ya? Oh yeah, you really shouldn't ground him for our mistakes, man. He did good, only we were so accustomed to worship and sacrifice that we couldn't help ourselves. It wasn't his fault!!!

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

LOL! I love this.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

.... you really shouldn't ground him for our mistakes....

he was given a specific set of instruction which he failed to carry out, for this he must be punished. you have no idea what it's like to raise an omnipotent being. he's always giving his opinion where it isn't wanted and generally acting as if he were the god around here. i can't even begin to count the number of times i've caught him handing out forgiveness as if the stuff grows on trees. and that hair and those sandals, it's almost more than a father can bear. i can't even take him out anyplace nice anymore, he keeps turning the bread tray into a freakin' aquarium and he's never satisfied with water, he's always turning it into wine as soon as my back is turned.

and it's not as if sending him to his room is any big punishment anyway. color tv, computers, nintendo wii, millions of worshipers: he has everything in there. he sits in there all day and night sending messages to his friends. and those friends of his, especially that judas. they're up to something, i just know it. i'm not sure what it is, but it can't be good. the other day i even caught him trying to sneak out to visit that girlfriend of his, mary something or other. now that's not the sort of young lady i want my son associating with, but what's a father to do? my only consolation is that he's well over two thousand and will soon be leaving the house.

well, i'm sorry to lay all this on you mere mortals, but as a single father and creator of the universe i have no one else that i can really talk to. thanks for listening, i'll try to make it a mild winter.








G

[JunkYard]

Well, if you really want to punish him...send him back to earth, G. He'll claim to be this and that and everyone will think him crazy. When he shows his powers, his very worshipers will think him the anti-christ, and our psychiatrists will have him placed in a mental institution, feed him full of pills, and he'll live the rest of his days on earth and a darkened haze.

How's that for punishment, G? By the time he makes it back home, he'll be set so strait he'll never defy you again.

But, he'll be pretty pissed at the human race...


:abduct:

[Th3 sand m4n]

This conversation is crazy because last night i did adderall for my second time i took 3 15mg pills and snorted 2 and then took another half and two other of my good friends did this also. For 6 straight hours we talked about every possibilty of death and the after life. my personal belief is that we will die and know nothing. i could go on and on as to why but instead i will smoke a bowl :P also try not to think to hard on this question because as some one said it will make you go crazy. when it comes down to it nothing can be proven becuase language is too inferior.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Well, if you really want to punish him...send him back to earth....

believe me, i've thought about it. i'm just concerned that he might do something really bad this time. not too long ago he ran away and i heard he spent some time around your neck of the woods. from what i've been able to sort out about it, he managed to start two world wars and create something you folks can a nuclear weapon. so you can see why i'm not too anxious to send him back to y'all. it kind of gives the family a bad name, if you know what i mean.









G


p.s.
just thought i'd let you know. there really is no anti-christ. my son is a bit bi-polar and when he isn't on his meds he tends to really mess things up.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH!

[ValkyrieAg]

Are there any Realists in this thread?

When I was 6 years old, my dad took me to a beef slaughter house in Corpus Christi. We were just there to sign some orders and contracts and whatnot. While I was standing there eating my sandwich on the kill floor, I could see the feet of the cattle that were once running around the brush country of south texas. They were coming up a ramp. You could see their feet and their nose smelling around confused as to where this ramp leads to. At this time, a man with a steel prod with a .22 caliber cartidge 'pops' the animal in the head with the steel pin. It is designed to destroy the motor functions of the animal. (you can't strap a 2500lb steer to a conveyer when its kicking, time is money). It hits the skids to the kill floor, they strap it up, and within 30 feet on that conveyer, they were totally skinned and headless. They use a forked winch to rip off the skin. There you really see an organism 'naked'. Right then and there, at 6 years old, I realized that there is absolutely NOTHING after death. Darkness is all you will find. Good thing is that the moment you are dead, you most likely won't really care. Your body decomposes and is used as a fuel by another organism. After I realized this, I finished my sandwich and never questioned death again.

Maybe in candy land something special happens to your 'soul'. Not in this world.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

reality is overrated.

as for there being nothing after death, that is just simply physically impossible, because energy does not get destroyed, it only changes.


DEATH is an illusion, there is only LIFE and CHANGE.


when you die, sure, the previous you, your ego, your current sense of self, will become absolute nothingness, as YOU CHANGE. YOU are still there, but your EGO, who you CURRENTLY THINK YOU ARE, will ceace to be.


sure, you can try your damnedest to hold on to that, and just waste your existence, haunting places, but there is really so much more for your energy to be used for.

energy does not die, it only changes.

[peaceandlove420]

It has been suggested that when the pinile gland bursts, it is possible that someone could live out entire lifetimes in their dreams, right before they die. If you have ever had a lucid dream, you would realize that reality is in our minds, and this is entirely possible. How do you know the life you are living right now isn't merley a figment of your imagination? Time is wildly distorted in dreams, so I believe that in the seconds before we die, our body thrusts us into an infinite dream (a self-defense against the unimaginable concept of non-existence), so at least in our minds, we could live forever.

Dude, I LOVE when peole come up with this kinda stuff.

[bluntman 420]

personally i believe after we die we are re-incarnated.

[Gatekeeper777]

reality is overrated.

as for there being nothing after death, that is just simply physically impossible, because energy does not get destroyed, it only changes.




energy does not die, it only changes.


but it can cease to be produced. like in a power plant, when the turbines stop turning there is no energy produced.
there for when the DNA strand in your brain cells loose to much information on how to produce energy from differant chemicals in the blood, there is no more energy being produced so the end result is death.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

but it can cease to be produced. like in a power plant, when the turbines stop turning there is no energy produced.
there for when the DNA strand in your brain cells loose to much information on how to produce energy from differant chemicals in the blood, there is no more energy being produced so the end result is death.


ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL!!!!!!!



turbines just convert one form of energy into another!!!



all there IS is energy, and infinite different manifestations thereof.


death is just changing energy from a living organism to something else, like dirt.


what is the energy that holds dirt together? can dirt die? if not, then neither can we, only experience mass changes of our energy and body.

[bong_man]

i dont get why people even think about it. Theres no way of knowing until you die, theres no point in wasteing your life preparing for a afterlive, Life is the only thing you should care about.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

"should" is a matter of opinion, and i appreciate you sharing yours :)

[bong_man]

point well taken :p

[IzzySnuffer]

I'm personally a Christian, and believe in the Christian views of the after life, but I don't think many of these so called "sins" the church preach out against are acually in the Bible.

[vickers500]

Are there any Realists in this thread?

When I was 6 years old, my dad took me to a beef slaughter house in Corpus Christi. We were just there to sign some orders and contracts and whatnot. While I was standing there eating my sandwich on the kill floor, I could see the feet of the cattle that were once running around the brush country of south texas. They were coming up a ramp. You could see their feet and their nose smelling around confused as to where this ramp leads to. At this time, a man with a steel prod with a .22 caliber cartidge 'pops' the animal in the head with the steel pin. It is designed to destroy the motor functions of the animal. (you can't strap a 2500lb steer to a conveyer when its kicking, time is money). It hits the skids to the kill floor, they strap it up, and within 30 feet on that conveyer, they were totally skinned and headless. They use a forked winch to rip off the skin. There you really see an organism 'naked'. Right then and there, at 6 years old, I realized that there is absolutely NOTHING after death. Darkness is all you will find. Good thing is that the moment you are dead, you most likely won't really care. Your body decomposes and is used as a fuel by another organism. After I realized this, I finished my sandwich and never questioned death again.

Maybe in candy land something special happens to your 'soul'. Not in this world.
you dont KNOW that though so dont state it as a fact

[bluntman 420]

thinking of death terrifies me, honestly im scared to die. we dont know what to expect. noone really knows what happens. i personally think that when parents and young kids go to church they are filling their heads with a false sense of securitythinking that their is a higher power and hoping that higher power will give them life after death. because they are afraid of the end, all they can do is hope. but what happens after death? is it just darkness? does ur soul occupy another infant body and u just grow up again? does our soul wonder around aimlessly? we dont know. we will only know when our time comes.

[ValkyrieAg]

you dont KNOW that though so dont state it as a fact

Well, I can for a fact say, that when you 'kill' an animal, they bleed out, die, and no longer move. When a man gets hit by a bus, he bleeds out, dies, and no longer moves. My mother died 3 years ago. I know exactly where shes buried and I know she ain't going anywhere.

But then again, we can't see radio waves, but they are all around. Just because we don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. But by the 'heaven' logic, theres a dog heaven, a bovine heaven, human heaven, and a giraffe heaven.

I am definately open to being proven wrong. I am in no way pushing this on anyone. But from my experiences, death is bleak and inevitable whether you get hit by a bus or die at 102.....don't kid yourself, you'll just be dissappointed. (if you could be disappointed and dead at the same time)

[JunkYard]

Life is just death in a bottle, so live it hard with foot full throttle!! :D

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

but what if we all ran the same direction? couldnt we actually make the bottle go somewhere?

[JunkYard]

but what if we all ran the same direction? couldnt we actually make the bottle go somewhere?

Life IS death, death IS life, and w/o it nothing would exist at all. I think the 'bottle' would better stand for "eternity", as life and death has been prevelant since the beginning of time.

And YES, together we can move the bottle in the direction we choose. We do it anyway, all we need is some unity to take it where it needs to go, lol!


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[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

lol no need for redundancy, i was just sparking inspirational thought :P

[JunkYard]

I didn't realize i was being redundant. Your thought just sparked another that I expounded on a bit. I thought it might contribute to the conversation if only in a small way. ;)

[vickers500]

Well, I can for a fact say, that when you 'kill' an animal, they bleed out, die, and no longer move. When a man gets hit by a bus, he bleeds out, dies, and no longer moves. My mother died 3 years ago. I know exactly where shes buried and I know she ain't going anywhere.

But then again, we can't see radio waves, but they are all around. Just because we don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. But by the 'heaven' logic, theres a dog heaven, a bovine heaven, human heaven, and a giraffe heaven.

I am definately open to being proven wrong. I am in no way pushing this on anyone. But from my experiences, death is bleak and inevitable whether you get hit by a bus or die at 102.....don't kid yourself, you'll just be dissappointed. (if you could be disappointed and dead at the same time)
Im not saying youre wrong, im not saying youre right, im just saying that there is no proof nor ever gonna be any way to prove where(if at all) are soul goes after we die(if you belive in souls that is).

[Polymirize]

Im not saying youre wrong, im not saying youre right, im just saying that there is no proof nor ever gonna be any way to prove where(if at all) are soul goes after we die(if you belive in souls that is).

so wait, what are you saying? Or, are you just wasting my time? :wtf:

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I didn't realize i was being redundant. Your thought just sparked another that I expounded on a bit. I thought it might contribute to the conversation if only in a small way. ;)

oh, i thought you were repeating yourself! LOL my bad!

[paradigmdream]

i haven't read through the thread yet, but i thought i'd share my theory of what happens after death.

basically what i believe is that the second your life ends, everything flips over and you life your entire life again but everything is completely opposite. left is right, up is down, wrong is right, life is death, etc... I also believe that when this afterlife ends you flip back and live your life again exactly as you are now.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

ew... i hope you're wrong. that's even more bleak than my beliefs!

[RichieRich]

"Too be absent from the body is to be in the presence of the Lord".

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

is not death a part of life?
and besides, this is an existence where nothing matters, so why worry? you do your thing, let others do theirs..


aaah.... you would not care if you were not intrigued, you ask not because you refuse to understand, but you wish to partake?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

can i bump this thread? yeah i think i can bump this thread, is this a bump?


*bump*


WELL! i guess it is!

[Erosea]

I have been contemplating this forever and it is the most important question I have. What do you think will happen? Modern science says that humans are just material that will decompose and our minds will fade out of existence like a spark of elecricity and this life we live is as far as we go. What I'd like to believe is that when we pass away, we will return to our true essence, and merge with the collective, unseen energy that makes up our universe. What do you believe?

Science doesn't have any opinion on spiritual matters. Science doesn't say that there is no afterlife, or no souls, or no God - science simply doesn't investigate that kind of thing, it's neutral. Science is only interested in our physical, observable universe.

Anyway, I believe that we have a progression of lives - in each life, we learn certain lessons, we gain knowledge and wisdom, and then we move on. I believe there are other planes - spiritual ones, and who knows what else, that we move on to after we're done existing in this plane, and we keep gaining knowledge until we become something so abstract, so incredible, that I don't know what happens. I like to the idea of merging with some kind of energy force - maybe what we would think of as God - but I really am unsure.

[TopNotchSwagger220]

Shiiiiit....this thread is kinda depressing....i dont even kno wat to believe now, but doesnt it feel scary as hell wen ur somewhere dark n u juss think about y were humans and y we are here n living...cheeeaawww