New to growing(for pleasure), advice?

[skunkmc]

Hi everyone, i'm new to the forum and have found some interesting stuff, so i thought fuck it i'll grow aswell.

Well it all started when we started getting this sandy SHIT!, so i thought what the hell, I dont want to spunk loads of cash but i can spare a little!
Anyway i would like to ask if anyone out there could help me, I think i will need to start using nutes soon but dont want to use expensive shit ive onlt got one plant!
Any way is there a cheapish feed i can use that will be ok? Where can I get them? How much are they? When should i start giving them to my seedling?

Cheers

[meloncoly]

search for hydroponic/horticulture shops in the uk on google, lots of nutrients around for weed.

you don't need to use nutes for at least 2 weeks or so from sprouting.

depending on your lights/set-up nutes may be excessive.

[ZeldaG.]

and read up on the growing section.

and anyway if you had posted this in the growing section than people who are a bit more relevant would have looked at it.

[skunkmc]

and read up on the growing section.

and anyway if you had posted this in the growing section than people who are a bit more relevant would have looked at it.

Ok no need to be like that, and i wanted advice from ENGLISH people as they live in this country!!!! Not a load of yanks who can buy stuff alot cheapper than us!

If u haven't got anything useful to say then don't say anything!

[glaeken]

You don't need to spend a lot. I've used Miracle grow in the past which you can get from most garden centres or DIY super stores and it does the job great.

The main thing with ferts is don't over do it. If you start to see little brown spots on the leaf you are over fert'ing the plants.

[Divadish]

1 light(size varies 200-1000 watt),timer,medium(soil,perlite,vermiculite,etc),p ot(s),grow them as follows:timer set to 18hrs light on ,6hrs light off for between 3-4 wks water regularly with nutrient enriched water ,then put timer onto 12hrs on 12hrs off for at least 6-7 weeks usually longer... see what happens ,obviously this is a very rough outline and the variations are endless, strains ,set up ,light size but follow these basic rules and it should behave normally and yield at the end of its cycle. just thought i'd warn you there's a real chance it could turn out to be a male plant and will give you nothing ,you'll have to read up on identifying this if /when it happens (closet cultivator-Ed Rosental was my gro-bible when i first started) ,miracle gro is just fine, a discreet set up you'll probably need a fan but go to a good site and get the basic gro guidelines printed off and you'll up and running in no time ,keep us posted

[skunkmc]

Miracle Gro? I've heard alot of people say that it will kill it?

Are u sure? I've had her for about 18 days now and thimk shes doing well, got 3rd pair of leaves well on their way now. She is only under 2 x 20w energy savers but doing well i think! just using normal water aswell. I am going to start using nutes very soon tho! Can I get them to bud under uv flourescents? Do I really NEED sodium lights?

[Divadish]

Leave it a week or so then , miracle-gro used in the right measures is as good as anything for vegging though you'll probably want something more specific when flowering .If you cant get to a hydro shop a good rule of thumb i found was most tomato plant feeds tend to work well (coco a+b is the d/bs).Try 2x60/80watts cos she aint gonna get too big under 40 watts and the process will be easier and yield better with a sodium as opposed to flours especially bein a ftg .I was gonna mention balanced water (getting PH levels helped me no end) but i'm gettin ahead of myself (read up and get some info) and from there it's all trial and error. P.S. you're absolutely sure it's a female ,seedlings don't usually show their gender till into flower

[glaeken]

Just to clarify on the Miracle Gro they actually do quite a few different products and the one I have used is the soluble all purpose fert.

It just a fert so its not going to kill your babies unless you over do it. Personally on these type of soluble ferts I always go a little under the recomended amount per litre so maybe 3/4 of what they recommend.

I normally don't fetilise at all in the first couple weeks either as if you are growing in a decent soil it will have enough nutes for this period.

As the other guys have said you do need to sort your light out as you just don't have enough watt's to get much return on all this grow time. I did a couple of grows under Floro tubes when I was first growing and the yield is so low its barely worth it.

Get yourself an HPS or MH light from a grow shop and the yields increase massivily. Ok you might spend £200 on a good light but once you are self sufficent for weed it seems like a very small out lay.

[Divadish]

Sorry to hark on about this point, but the plants sex is of the utmost importance if it's female all well and good if it's male it's no good whatsoever and needs to be thrown away and you'll have to start again.Growing from seed can be a bit of a guessing game even with feminised seeds(had shedloads of trouble with em).The first seeds i ever bought (N/lights) out of the 10 50% turned out to be male and had to be thrown but what was left was pure sensi(unfertilised females) yielding great bud and perfect for cuttings for the next generation of plants. glaeken is right ,your light will probably be your biggest outlay so £150-200 might seem alot at the time but once you've got your first 4-5oz safely stored away,the next crop 2 wks from flower,about to spark a J of D'erb grown by your fair hand, and knowing you've just taken the biggest hassle out of the whole smoking experience ie:dealers and delivery times(no offence to those reading) as the man says it will "seem like a very small outlay". But again, learn how to identify male/female plants ,look for small pollen sacs in the armpit of the branch/stem they actually look like small testicles though mine are bigger lol anyway best of british

[mc-blaze21]

(open's the door looks for ecky thump and leaves)

[Divadish]

Eeh bar gum me old cock al si thi lairter

[SaintSinner]

Sorry to hark on about this point, but the plants sex is of the utmost importance if it's female all well and good if it's male it's no good whatsoever and needs to be thrown away and you'll have to start again.

Small little addendum (sp?) when you find males (assuming the 2nd or so week of flower) you'd be advised to use them to cook up some butter with, they still have enough thc for cooking, and it beats the heck out of just trashing them ;-)


Here's a sample receipe I like, that unfortunately I can't remember what thread/forum I got it from (sorry :( ) )

KarmasPayment's Perfect Cannabutter

WHAT YOU NEED
2 Sticks of Margarine
1 Box of Brownies
1 Cheese Cloth package (available at all supermarkets)
1 Plant material or Buds
2 Large cooking Pot's
1 Egg
1 Strainer
1 Bag of M&M's (optional)

***The Basic Principle***
For this method we are going to use water. There is no sauting of the green. That method can lead to burning off THC and most importantly makes the taste unbearable.

STEP 1
-Take the large cooking pot and fill with water and bring to a boil. Look at the amount of scraps/buds you have. I find you generally won't need much more then 8-12 cups of water. But the amount of water really doesn't matter... Too much is better then too little.

STEP 2
-Once the water is boiling add your 2 sticks of margarine. For the purpose of cooking I have come to the conclusion that margarine is superior to butter.

STEP 3
-Now you can add your plant scraps/buds. I only use plant scraps so it is hard for me to say just how many buds you would add. I would make an estimation. Try it with a quarter first, then add more if potency isn't what you would like.

STEP 4
-Turn the temperature to a low boil and put a lid half on to allow the water to evaporate.

STEP 5
-This is the best step. Simply mix around the solution every 15 minutes. Smoke a bow while you wait. Let it boil till most of the water is gone. I find the approximate time at 1-1.5 hrs. However, I have let it go as long as 4 before.

STEP 6
-Remove the pot from the stove and allow it to cool off for a little while, so the mixture isn't too hot.

STEP 7
-Get the other pot and put the strainer on top of the 2nd pot. Drape the cheesecloth over the strainer.

STEP 8
-Pour the mixture onto the cheesecloth slowly. Let the mixture run through into the other pot below. Eventually let everything come out of the pot and fall onto the cheesecloth. Scrape the pot with a spatula and put the remaining matter on the cheesecloth too.

STEP 9
-You made gloves for this part. Grab the edge of the cheesecloth and fold up so it looks like your holding the top of a hershey kiss. Either squeeze in a downward motion or keep spinning the ball till all the rest of the margarine comes out of the scraps. Throw the cheesecloth scrap ball away

STEP 10
-Now you remove the strainer. You have the lower pot which will have the solution with all of the scraps pulled out. It will be very dark in color and is almost done. Put the pot into the fridge overnight.

STEP 11
-The next day you will have pure butter. The margarine will have hardened and will look like a giant flourescent green frisbee. Take a knife to the edges and slowly remove the disk. Take the disk and use a strainer to remove any other crud or sludge looking material that will try and stick to the bottom.

STEP 12
-You now have pure Cannabutter. There will be virtually no taste and the potency should knock you on your a$$. You can throw away any of the remaining material that was in the pot from the fridge. Take the disk and break it up into a cup and microwave it.

STEP 13
This is your melted pure cannabutter that you can do whatever you wish with. Make grilled cheese, brownies, use for garlic bread, etc. So many choices. For this tutorial I chose to make brownies. And I like mine potent so I will use all of the butter we just made, should be around a cup. So get all your ingredients to make brownies. Mixing bowl, brownie mix, egg, cannabutter, water, and M&M's.

STEP 14
-Put the melted cannabutter into the mixing bowl.. Add an egg to it. Mix the two together. Next add the mix. I find that I don't need too much water since I use a lot of butter. Add water to the mixture as you need too. Mix vigorously until smooth.

STEP 15
-Grease the pan a little and add the mixture. I pour M&M's over the top. I didn't used too. But I added it once on a whim and I have found it makes the taste amazing. I don't even like M&M's normally. But when I add them on the top of brownies they are great. My friends insist I keep the M&M's everytime i make it now.

STEP 16
-Put in the oven which has been preheated to 350 for 20-30 minutes. Check the brownies every few minutes starting at 20 mins. You know when their done by using a knife. Stab the middle of the brownies, if their is batter on the knife they are not done yet. When it stops sticking or is thick pieces you are all set. Remove from the oven and let it cool.

STEP 17
-Cut the brownies into 15 pieces. I found this was the best number from a single batch of brownies. And then enjoy





Good luck in your new hobby, and remember that the most important thing when doing a bit of farming, is secrecy. Keeps you from getting unexpected visits ;-)

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All opinions posted above are purely speculative, I would never willingly break the law of a country, even if I felt the law was antiquated, pointless, and just plain silly.

[Pezzo]

i didnt read all the posts, too long. Im using miracl grow, doin me well.

what u stuck on atm? ask another q and il try to help u.

Gd luck
Pezzo

[ZeldaG.]

Ok no need to be like that, and i wanted advice from ENGLISH people as they live in this country!!!! Not a load of yanks who can buy stuff alot cheapper than us!

If u haven't got anything useful to say then don't say anything!


lol you kidding!??

lol i wasnt being a prick or anything lol i saw that no one answered, couldnt really help you that much myself so i ADVISED you to go to the grow forum where the people know a proper LOT of good stuff and have helped me, and i thout they would be able to help you, i wasnt saying ''fuck off and post in the right place'' i was simply saying ''you may get more help if you post there''

:P

[Pezzo]

^^^ HAha, thx 4 the rep ZeldaG, i forgot what it was for but still lol