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pisshead
02-13-2007, 01:50 AM
Hate Crimes Legislation Back
Hardhitting Patriot Preacher Warns Of Fresh Threat From New Congress
American Free Press | February 12, 2007 (http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/hate_crimes_legislation_back.html)
John Tiffany
On Jan. 5, liberal Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (DTexas) reintroduced so-called ??hate crimes? legislation in Congress. The bill is numbered H.R. 254. ??Hate? crimes laws??the brainchild of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith??are found in states and locales across America, but this new measure in Congress would enact a federal hate crime statute.
Essentially, hate crimes laws would add additional criminal penalties upon anyone convicted of a crime against an individual when that crime, according to the proposed legislation, is ??motivated by the actual or perceived race, color, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, gender, or disability of the victim.?
In short, although there are already laws against shooting someone and killing them??it's called murder??if a perpetrator is found to have committed that crime because of an alleged bias against the victim, it would now be considered a federal crime because of that bias. There will be at least an additional 10 year federal penalty applied, even if?? for example??someone only punched another person. If death results in the course of such a so-called ??hate? crime being committed, a life sentence in prison is provided for under this federal legislation.
This is ??thought control? legislation and a piece of police-state-style social engineering disguised in the mask of ??fighting hate.? And it constitutes not just a toe in the door, but a veritable jackboot, for, in other countries where the ADL and its allied groups have forced the enactment of hate crimes laws, legislation outlawing even criticism of minorities has traditionally followed.
The new hate crimes measure is entitled ??The David Ray Hate Crimes Prevention Act???or, as it's being popularly called by its proponents, ??David's Law.? The law is named in memory of a young man who was brutally murdered, sodomized with a lead pipe by his attacker who apparently committed the crime against Ray because Ray was a homosexual.
A hate crimes measure was approved by the House of Representatives in the previous Congress, despite the fact that Republicans were in control of the House at that time. And what many do not realize is that the single use of a racial pejorative, for example, such as the so-called ??n? word, can be construed as ??evidence? of a ??hate? crime, even though nasty words are often traded by people engaged in simple fisticuffs.
Or, if a black youth, fighting in the street with a Latino schoolmate, used a racial slur offensive to Latinos, that black youth could be held responsible for a federal ??hate? crime if he struck the Latino in the course of using the inappropriate slur.
Rev. Ted Pike, who has been spearheading opposition to the federal hate crimes laws??and who has done so successfully in the past??points out that, in other countries, socalled hate crimes legislation has been the toe in the doorway for additional ??thought control? legislation aimed at limiting freedom of speech in general.
For example, if an individual, citing Biblical exhortations against homosexuality, is found to have offended the sensibilities of homosexuals, then that person may be punished for having done so. This is happening today in Canada, in France and in any number of other countries where ??antihate? legislation is in force. Or, if someone criticizes the policies of the Anti-Defamation League or the state of Israel, they may be found to have offended Jewish supporters of Israel and therefore punished for having done so.
The fact that Arab-American organizations have repeatedly joined the ADL-led chorus demanding hate-crimes legislation in America is rather thought-provoking, considering the fact that Arab Americans who frequently criticize Israel would be among the first targeted by the kind of thought control legislation that has traditionally come in the wake of the kind of ??hate crimes? legislation that the ADL is now trying to have enacted at the federal level in the United States.
Now, in the judgment of Pike, because the Democrats are in control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate, there will be an even greater push to get the legislation enacted.
That's why Pike is urging those who oppose this insidious legislation to redouble their efforts to block H.R. 254 so that it never reaches the floor of the House. H.R. 254 has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, and Pike suggests that people contact all members of the committee and urge that they oppose the legislation.
Pike suggests that you keep your message short and to the point: ??Please don't vote for the David Ray Hate Crimes Prevention Act, H.R.254. Hate laws have taken away free speech in Canada and many European countries.?
You can write all of the representatives in question (as well as your own representative and every member of the House) in care of the following general address: U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, DC 20515. To telephone members of the House, you may use the regular number for the U.S. Capitol switchboard at 1-(202) 224-3121. Or there is a toll free number you may use: 1-877-851-6437.

JackdaWack
02-13-2007, 03:57 AM
Um hasnt this been a huge dealing in courts already, Hate crimes have always been taken very seriously, maybe its just in writing now.

JackdaWack
02-13-2007, 04:02 AM
I dont believe we should prosecute young kids for this as they know no better, and i think this might be the problem, or in cases where exceptions may be in state. If you are not the cuase of the problem and some one of other ethnicities aproached with a problem, i belive you have a right to call them bad stereotypical names. Why not? i dunno why people have to complicate things.

Zimzum
02-13-2007, 04:03 AM
Don't argue too hard with him. If you go look at infowars you will see they are upset about talking urinal cakes that warn against DWI. Link here! (http://infowars.net/articles/february2007/120207talkingtoilet.htm)

Stoner Shadow Wolf
02-13-2007, 05:55 AM
omfg lmfao "how many people are going to listen to something they are literally pissing on?" omg too funny... god big brother is a dimwit, i hope we let them have it some time soon, i hope they fuck up and start mass riots some time soon.... they need to be taken down a notch... or 15...

Psycho4Bud
02-13-2007, 07:40 AM
Hate crime laws have been in place for a long time. One of my friends was in a bar one night and had problems with this black dude that was high on crack. That was confirmed at the court case. Anyways, when he was leaving to avoid a fight, the guy jumped his back. Well, my friend got the best of him BUT he used the "N" word while kicking the guys ass. Even though he was defending himself they got him on a hate crime. He sat 5 years in Waupun!

I don't condone racial slurs at all but there has to be provisions for an act like this. If your beating a person, insulting, harassing because of race, religion, etc.......that's one thing. If your in a situation and there is a slip of the tongue...it's wrong but to have such a severe extra charge filed? Hell no!

As for kids........High School, Jr. High School.......they should be old enough AND taught to know better. Wouldn't that be a reflection of what they learned at home? Check out some of the Rap lyrics that parents turn a deaf ear to. If the parents are going to pass on or ignore this type of ignorance I think the system has to step up somehow.

Look at the middle east. Sunni and Shiite killing Jews, Sunni and Shiite killing each other, Jews killing Arabs...............are we going to let the U.S. turn into something like that or do we TRY to stop the ignorance behind it? Fact is, we ALL bleed red!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

40oz
02-13-2007, 07:55 AM
I find this ridiculous. An individual is free to hate whoever they want, no matter how crazy or absurd that hate might be. The government has no right to send a person to jail longer because they hate someone.

Kid Dynamite
02-13-2007, 10:08 AM
Hate crime laws have been in place for a long time. One of my friends was in a bar one night and had problems with this black dude that was high on crack. That was confirmed at the court case. Anyways, when he was leaving to avoid a fight, the guy jumped his back. Well, my friend got the best of him BUT he used the "N" word while kicking the guys ass. Even though he was defending himself they got him on a hate crime. He sat 5 years in Waupun!



Thats the biggest load of crap i've ever heard. Your friend had to spend five years locked up just because the crackhead who jumped him happened to be black! Would the courts have preferred him to have sat there and taken a beating and not fought back, or defended himself? But he ends up in prison for it. Fucking stupid laws...

Psycho4Bud
02-13-2007, 05:47 PM
Thats the biggest load of crap i've ever heard. Your friend had to spend five years locked up just because the crackhead who jumped him happened to be black!

It wasn't because of the skin color.......when my friend was putting down a case of whoop ass he used the N word.............took it to a hate crime.

ALSO, word to the wise........if you ever get annoyed because someone is speaking in a foriegn language.....DO NOT SAY ANYTHING about it. I know a lady that got a $250 fine for state disorderly for telling a couple Hmong dudes if they had something to say her at least have enough balls to say it in english. Cops nabbed her right in the Shopko store for that shit.

Welcome to Wisconsin.......:wtf:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

medicinal
02-13-2007, 06:26 PM
Another example of overkill. People should not be jailed for words. If Blacks can call each other the N word and a white man gets jailed for it, that my friend is reverse discrimination and should be banned. If you listen to Rap, (I don't) the N word is used rampantly and to jail someone for using it is beyond ridiculous. A word is just a word!

Psycho4Bud
02-13-2007, 06:28 PM
Another example of overkill. People should not be jailed for words. If Blacks can call each other the N word and a white man gets jailed for it, that my friend is reverse discrimination and should be banned. If you listen to Rap, (I don't) the N word is used rampantly and to jail someone for using it is beyond ridiculous. A word is just a word!

NO SHIT DUDE! Did ya see who won the Grammy for best Rap artist.....check out some of the lyrics. If a word is wrong.........it should be wrong for ALL!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Myth1184
02-13-2007, 07:10 PM
there are already hate crime laws on the book, your acting like this is something new..... But the problem with the enforcement of the hate crimes law now is that is has primarily been only used against white defendents, only applied to minorities if the case gets lots of attention, such of the recent one where the black mob of teenage kids attacked the two white women over in California.