Look Look! two plants on 12/12 from birth

[Bree1978]

here are two plants that have been under 12/12 since seed. Under 15w of light (yah you read that right) they have both popped pistals even though thier nodes are not alternating (unless they are just starting). The taller one was dropped and snapped in half, and yet recoverd. So there was some stress. They do not have a fan on them...lol...they would never be able to hold weight...but I'm thinking that enviroment in the beginning plays a HUGE factor on gender! They were born on 12-24...KEEP in mind that there were only two, and they produced TWO females! :jointsmile: Bree
Enjoy!!!

[Bree1978]

On thinking, it could have been a bag with with hermie seeds...time will tell. But the plant that I grew in my window for weeks ended up female too....so I am still thinking cooler temps and less light might produce more females.....more experiments to follow, lol. Happy Tokin' and Growin' Bree

[1chronic]

That's awesome thinking, I think I'm going to try that.

[Gatekeeper777]

what about a new creeper strain. NO i am not talking about a creeper buzz. I mean a plant that will vine on the ground like ivy.

[scott9116]

I've been growing for two years and for whatever reason my plants have always had rough life while seedlings; cat attacks, heat stress, cold stress, over/underwatering, wind blowdown and on and on. I've never had a male plant, ever. I hope it stays that way but it wouldn't be to bad to have some seeds if I have a huge problem and can't clone.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Page 261 of the bible.

"Enviromental factors star influencing se the moment the seedling has 3 pairs of true leaves. Factor include but are not limited to:

-N and K levels. Increasing N makes more females. Lower N makes more males.Increase K increases the tendency for males;Lowering K level encourges female plants. A higher N level and lower K level in the first two weeks increases females.

-Temperature: Low temp increase the number of female plants. Warm temp makes more males.[I know this first hand having turned 9 plants into males]

-Humidity: High humidity iincreases the number of female plants. Low humidity increases male plants.

-Light Spectrum: More blue light incereases the number of female plants[MH]. More red light increases male tendencies[HPS].

-Photoperiod: Fewer hours of daylight(e.g. 14 hours) increases the number of females. Longer days (e.g. 18 hours) make roe male plants.[think of all those people on 24 days]

Stress: any enviromental stress tends to yeild more male plants when growing from seeds."


Sounds pretty consistent with what your saying bree

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

AAAARGH! I'm fucking doomed. I bet not one of these plants of mine turns out female.
Boy will I be pissed.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Chin up Mrs. greenjeans. My set up took temp well above 100 when I had my plants turn on me. They were also way over watered. They can still take alot of abuse and I would keep faith in your babies.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Phew! Thanks.:)

[JackdaWack]

yeah, they take it for the team! Ive had plants go hermie and then back to full female, i had 5 femals go hermie and then only one fo them remained hermie with bannanas. So they can take alot of abuse and the results are neccessarily perminant. Summer heat sucks alot even in a basement, temps are perfect in the winter.

[Bree1978]

Page 261 of the bible.

"Enviromental factors star influencing se the moment the seedling has 3 pairs of true leaves. Factor include but are not limited to:

-N and K levels. Increasing N makes more females. Lower N makes more males.Increase K increases the tendency for males;Lowering K level encourges female plants. A higher N level and lower K level in the first two weeks increases females.

-Temperature: Low temp increase the number of female plants. Warm temp makes more males.[I know this first hand having turned 9 plants into males]

-Humidity: High humidity iincreases the number of female plants. Low humidity increases male plants.

-Light Spectrum: More blue light incereases the number of female plants[MH]. More red light increases male tendencies[HPS].

-Photoperiod: Fewer hours of daylight(e.g. 14 hours) increases the number of females. Longer days (e.g. 18 hours) make roe male plants.[think of all those people on 24 days]

Stress: any enviromental stress tends to yeild more male plants when growing from seeds."


Sounds pretty consistent with what your saying bree


Well there you go! I think with my next seeds I am going to start them on 14/10 when they pop and after a few weeks go to 16/8 (or 18/6).....With the light on less the temps should be lower anyways....make them humid of course...see if I can get all females, eh? :jointsmile: Bree

[MedaCynMan72]

Raspect & Peace B....
Been reading & following some of your grow ideas. Your INTERESTING!
What you think, Tamatoe seed in soil 2-1..sprouted 2-4..growing good
3" Tall..On 3rd set of leaves...all leaves 3" long..Been on 18-6...
Want to go to 12-12...Flower with 7 day into 12-12 older sister(i hope).;)
Only those 2 Tamatoe plants...not major grow...
LOVE, LEARN & Pass time for FUTURE!:)
Would you Use CFL Daylight bulbs or Warm bulbs, Or Both?
Update us on your infant 12-12....
PLANT a SEED....WATCH It GROW......SMOKE HerB.....
One Tamatoe PLANT.....LOTS of RASTA LOVE:rastasmoke: oneLove

[Bree1978]

Raspect & Peace B....
Been reading & following some of your grow ideas. Your INTERESTING!
What you think, Tamatoe seed in soil 2-1..sprouted 2-4..growing good
3" Tall..On 3rd set of leaves...all leaves 3" long..Been on 18-6...
Want to go to 12-12...Flower with 7 day into 12-12 older sister(i hope).;)
Only those 2 Tamatoe plants...not major grow...
LOVE, LEARN & Pass time for FUTURE!:)
Would you Use CFL Daylight bulbs or Warm bulbs, Or Both?
Update us on your infant 12-12....
PLANT a SEED....WATCH It GROW......SMOKE HerB.....
One Tamatoe PLANT.....LOTS of RASTA LOVE:rastasmoke: oneLove

OH crumb, I lost this thread and didn't see your post :(. Did you put them in flower yet? From what I've read, it is good to use a 2/3 ratio on warm/cool lighting in flower (3 being red 2 being blue).....But the majority of people just use red since that is where your girth and weight come from. I have a dual spec light that I'm fiddling around with trying to cool, so more experiments will be following...lol.... Meanwhile the infants need repotted and fed, they really have been ignored almost since birth and for some reason they seem to like it, lol....I'll update in the next few days after repot, they look a bit sad, and I'm a bit ashamed to let anyone see, HA HA!
Happy Tokin' and Growin' :jointsmile: Bree

[HARDDON]

I have found that with proper temps, light spectrum and 18/6 lighting and love, you can get 75% females by the end of 25-28 days...

Every single time.

Here are plants that were 40 days old... 4 outta 4 were females with my last grow which was last year.

Done properly, you only have to grow a batch about every 2-3 years to keep you up to your ears in personal stash killer smoke. Four really great plants will keep you stoned for 2 - 3 years.

[spankey]

so anymore pics of your 12/12 grow and what yield are you going to get?

[KL4D4]

I wonder cause technically my temps were low with all blue lights and got a female...

[aonymity]

so whats everyone sayin that higher temps produce female? im knida lost/stoned here...sorry

[Bree1978]

I don't have pics, they need repotted, almost dead! I'm not going to really yield anything from them because they have never been repotted and they are already flowering. They never had a fan, and until a week ago they only had 15w of light on them. Yes, I'm repotting them today, although I doubt It'll do much good unless I revert them back to veg.... and aonymity and KL4D4, no the temps are supposed to be lower to produce females.
The color mix has nothing to do with producing females as far as I know either, sorry if I was misunderstood.
:jointsmile: Bree

[Primus]

Done properly, you only have to grow a batch about every 2-3 years to keep you up to your ears in personal stash killer smoke. Four really great plants will keep you stoned for 2 - 3 years.

How do you store your dried buds? I would think 2 year old bud would be dry as hell and burn way too quickly. do you use a humidor or something like that?

[mobay]

primus you can store the dried buds in mason jars. like the jars grandma has in the cupboards, just store them the same way. mason jars are air tight, to keep the buds like that for years, if it last that long lol.

[Bree1978]

Well since this thread is getting traffic again, I'll update. I did repot them, but they still had a sad ending. I don't have everything ready room wise right now and it would have been a waste of light, so I stopped watering them. They are almost dry, I will smoke them when my lungs can handle it, lol I've been sick. Here is a pic, try not to weep!



:jointsmile: Bree

[postmandave]

I have found that with proper temps, light spectrum and 18/6 lighting and love, you can get 75% females by the end of 25-28 days...

Every single time.

Here are plants that were 40 days old... 4 outta 4 were females with my last grow which was last year.

Done properly, you only have to grow a batch about every 2-3 years to keep you up to your ears in personal stash killer smoke. Four really great plants will keep you stoned for 2 - 3 years.
harddon i never get sick of seeing your grows mate .top pro growing every time .well done mate . be safe the postman.and i see those tootsies manlol lol

[Weed4Life]

Poor plants, those are under CFL's or HID lighting?

[growinforthefuture]

i vegged under 24 and got at first (when it was a bit cold) a buncha males, like 5 in a row, that was followed bya string of 13 females in a row. btw i was really cold at times in mid-vegging and the first week or so of flowering. this is when the males showed up. i also fertilized waaay too much in the beginning, b/c i thought my borrowed fert solution had already been diluted.. it hadn't (doh) anyways just my results for anyone who wants to interpret them.

Weed4Life -Poor plants, those are under CFL's or HID lighting?

15 watt HID i wonder if the HPS or MH would be better.. it would probably need a reverse ballast if am not mistaken i guess with the transformer and capacitor switched. anyways i think it must be a tiny cfl

[Bree1978]

yes they were under a 15w floro tube..then they went under a 400w HPS...lol...then I decided it wasn't worth all that trouble at the moment and let them dry out. Poor plants is right!!

:jointsmile: Bree

[postmandave]

just shows the differance a weeks veg can do these are mobays ak47 vegged for one week then straight 12/12 then yours bree exellent thread by the way.the postman.

[orangeman]

I would rather start them off on a longer light schedule. Like 18/6. Seems to be the preferred photoperiod for vegging plants. When it's ready then I'd flower it. I have thought about starting plants off 12/12 from seed but it just doesn't seem logical to me. It needs light to grow and that's the purpose, for it to grow as much as possible before it's time for it to flower.

[Weed4Life]

Good grow Bree1978, but I would have to agree with them to a degree. I can understand if you had height problems in your box or not enough space. Try to give them 2 weeks of Veg and see the difference!