Educated guesses please

[19Chuck85]

ahoy all, I started this grow mid December and I lost track of when I switched the lights to 12/12. I'm wondering if some people with a fair amount of experience could possibly tell me how much longer I sould give them, and also the soonest I could cut them down while still getting some somewhat decent results.
I currently have 8x23watt and 5x14watt cfl's on 3 plants
They are 20", 23" and, 27" tall.
As for the strain, I don't know, random bag seed.

Thanks for your time,
Chuck :cool:

[stinkyattic]

Uh they look like they have been budding 2 weeks.
Look up the trichome chart to see when they need to come down.
You probably have 6 weeks or so to go.
More lights too even though the plants DO look healthy.

[19Chuck85]

here are the tops of the other 2 plants. The first 2 pictures show where the one came into contact with one of the bulbs, that little bugger was growing really fast until that happened. I'll post full shots as soon as I have them.

[keeko]

yea i would have said 6-8 weeks

[whisky]

i agree, very healthy plants best of luck

[19Chuck85]

Here are the recent photos I promised.
Looking at the pictures makes me wonder, has anyone else used a trouble light during a grow? I'm personally using 2, and the one seems to be doing wonders for the shortest plant. I just now named the short one Jenna after a good friend of mine (she's short hahaha get it?). Just shows to grow you that they like cfl's to be quite close.
I'm so lame.
Again with Jenna, I'm noticing crystals forming on the leaves now, a good thing I know. What I find odd is that she has the smallest and least ammount of buds. Is there any reason she is forming the crystals and the 2 bigger ones not? This is the same girl that grew into the light and burnt the tips of 4 leaves just before I put her into flowering. The burnt tips are the only difference I am aware of. I am 95% positive they are all of the same strain too.

Suggestions and comments are greatly appreciated!

:cool: Chuck

[Bree1978]

Is there anyway that you could hang those CFL's more between the plants, lighting the sides as well? I think you'll like the results better if you do this...Right now only a few inches of the tops are covered the way you have it fashioned. That is why the shorter one is doing so well. If you can't hang the light perhaps you could LST? (Do a search) .They look good btw. :jointsmile: Bree

[19Chuck85]

She is the tallest of my girls and the one I visit with the most.
All three girls have been budding for about 3 weeks now.
As you can see I've had to get somewhat creative with the lighting, but if it works use it right?

Peace.
:cool:

[Tokudai]

Again with Jenna, I'm noticing crystals forming on the leaves now, a good thing I know. What I find odd is that she has the smallest and least ammount of buds. Is there any reason she is forming the crystals and the 2 bigger ones not? This is the same girl that grew into the light and burnt the tips of 4 leaves just before I put her into flowering. The burnt tips are the only difference I am aware of. I am 95% positive they are all of the same strain too.
Chuck

Even though they are from the same strain/bag, they are likely different phenotypes, meaning they have different individual characteristics. A different flavor, higher yield, higher potency, different growth structure. Since it was from bagseed, the genetics weren't specifically singled out and bred for any particular traits - the seeds were probably accidental, from a rogue male or hermie. It may wind up being nothing like the bud it came from, or very similar. You can try and reveg the one that looks the best and see if you can get a mommmy out of her - then the buds will be identical.

Kind of a crap shoot, but I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results of your hard work. Nothing better than homegrown YOU grown. They look great!

[19Chuck85]

Is there anyway that you could hang those CFL's more between the plants, lighting the sides as well? I think you'll like the results better if you do this...Right now only a few inches of the tops are covered the way you have it fashioned. That is why the shorter one is doing so well. If you can't hang the light perhaps you could LST? (Do a search) .They look good btw. :jointsmile: Bree

I do have more lighting in place, I moved the lights that are easily moved for the pictures. I would like more lights, and do have more bulbs, just nothing to hang them by, I have been searching but so far no luck, however the search will continue. Thanks for the advice!

:cool: Chuck

[19Chuck85]

So much to learn, which is good as I am hungry for knowledge. My next grow will hopefully be seeds I'll order online, I'm looking for something that provides a nice balance of head and body high with a low or fruity odour while growing. I'll be in an apartment building by then so smell will be an issue. Anyone know of a strain that sounds right from what they have grown?

As per buying the seeds, would anyone recomend a company that sells a quality product and ships discreetly?

I'll be upgrading my lighting and am wondering if a 250 watt hps would create too much heat in a 5'x5' room with a fan and about 4 plants.

Last thing for now...... Does anyone know where I would be able to find information on a coco setup, I'm already convinced to try it, just curious as to what all I'll need. I think I read somewhere about adding a gallon of water per day and am wondering if this is all at once, and if so how the drainage works or even what a system like that would be called and I could look it up.

Thanks again
:cool: Chuck

[Markass]

I do have more lighting in place, I moved the lights that are easily moved for the pictures. I would like more lights, and do have more bulbs, just nothing to hang them by, I have been searching but so far no luck, however the search will continue. Thanks for the advice!

:cool: Chuck

Why not get a nice 250 HPS or something? That would make it more worth your while I'm sure.

[Markass]

I'll be upgrading my lighting and am wondering if a 250 watt hps would create too much heat in a 5'x5' room with a fan and about 4 plants.

:cool: Chuck

Hard to say...you would need adequate ventilation but as long as you could swing that, light would be a lot less trouble than several small CFL's.

[JackdaWack]

a 250wttr wouldnt need that much ventilation in there, hes got a good amount of space floor to ceiling and all around, even tho his setup is spread out, condesing your grow is a good idea too. A small squirl cage fan would be sufficient enough if vented outside. ina a 4x4x6 foot room a 265cfm's fan is enough for a 400wttr no cool tube. temps at around 78 while outside the room is room temp 69-68. I also have a carbon filter set up on a 465cfm cage fan plus a inline blower, but the blower does all the work i dont know why i till have the cage fan on, it has no pressure to pull air through the filter.

[19Chuck85]

Thanks all for your replies, I am now contemplating chopping the smallest of the plants since the two bigger have taken off in bud growth while she isn't developing much at all, or at least in comparison. Why I'm considering this is, I'm unable to buy any more lights and thought it may be worth it to take the lights that are on it, and put them around the biggest plant. Let me know your thoughts.
I'd still be able to get pretty ripped from the early buds correct?

[dusto2k3]

noo, just rais the little one up to the height of the others. premie weed is worthless to smoke.

[19Chuck85]

Thanks dusto, you saved her. I tell you, if it wasn't for people like you, I would probably have been discouraged to try growing again. With the knowledge I have gained, and continue to gain, I know that this by far will not be my last grow.
Thanks again

:cool: Chuck

[19Chuck85]

I'm noticing some color change going on in the main cola of one of my plants, shown in the picture. Every day I notice more brown, could she be finishing early?

:stoned: Chuck

[MULLETMAN]

Are you gonna post more picks so we can see the big picture.
I'm no expert but I'm gonna go with sit on your hands with this one and wait for more replies, don't run off and grab the scissors just yet. Other than that holy smokes that thing looks pretty damn good!! Still looks like it has some time to grow.

[stoneintheflesh]

thats not gonna be worth cutting for atleast 3 more weeks

the buds (best i can tell are just starting)

if u cut those now and dry u won't get 10 grms of smoke

there doesn't look like too much bud formation ( although that happens all at once)

i would say try better lighting you can buy some plant lights at home depot that are way better than those cfls if u r just real cheap but by the time you buy 3-4 you could have bought a small hps...

good luck

[19Chuck85]

Sadly money is a bit of an issue, and the lighting that I have there is all there will be for this grow. The point of this grow was basicly to see if I could do it and I now know I can. I'll be investing in some better equipment for next time (which I'm stoked for btw). All thoes CFL's should work for veging clones for a couple weeks (sog) right? if not, they will just be used for household lighting.

:jointsmile: Chuck

[19Chuck85]

Someone had requested shots that showed the plants bottom to top, so here they are.
The one that is showing some colour change is the one with the trouble light above it.

:smokin: Chuck

[19Chuck85]

The third girl who is 32" tall. The other two are 24"

[herbaltivo]

Ha, I'd love to see wha'd happen if you threw a 400w HPS at them now. I bet those little budlets would explode.

[PatrickHenry]

She is the tallest of my girls and the one I visit with the most.
All three girls have been budding for about 3 weeks now.
As you can see I've had to get somewhat creative with the lighting, but if it works use it right?

Peace.
:cool:

DUDE TELL ME THAT IS NOT A LAVA LAMP HANGING IN YOUR PICTURE!!!

LMAO :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke:

[19Chuck85]

oh, it's a lava lamp alright, but I took it apart now so it's just the part ya screw the light into hanging from the cord. I can even put the lava lamp back together for when I get an HPS.

:jointsmile:

[PatrickHenry]

oh, it's a lava lamp alright, but I took it apart now so it's just the part ya screw the light into hanging from the cord. I can even put the lava lamp back together for when I get an HPS.

:jointsmile:

I officially award you stoner of the year! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :hippy:

[19Chuck85]

WOOO!!! my first ever award, my mother would be so proud....
Patrick you made my day, thanks. :)

[Irie1]

Your gonna need at least 3 weeks maybe 4. You should really start flushing soon. With that low amount of light it will take forever to flush out your soil. They look great though. Good luck!

[PatrickHenry]

WOOO!!! my first ever award, my mother would be so proud....
Patrick you made my day, thanks. :)

No problem man, you earned that award! HAHA when I saw your picture I called over my wife to look at it. I was all, "See that? That's a true stoner! Only a true stoner would consider using a lava lamp housing to grow his plants! THAT is dedication!"

:D :D :D :D

[19Chuck85]

Could anyone tell me what is hanging from the center buds, they show up. I've seen pictures of hermies but to me this looks different.

Thanks
:jointsmile: Chuck

[TheGanjaKing420]

Could anyone tell me what is hanging from the center buds, they show up. I've seen pictures of hermies but to me this looks different.

Thanks
:jointsmile: Chuck


Thats definitely a hermie, rip that off quickly.

[19Chuck85]

And of course they are in the dark at the moment, the morning I guess.

If I were to chop them now, would they just be garbage or could I still get high from it? I'm moving to a camp in northern alberta right away here (YAY OIL!!!) and I still want to be able to dry, cure, and smoke the buds.

Does anyone find it odd that most of the oil that is being pulled out of our ground, is flowing under our fields, rivers and towns only to never return, but instead will be used to heat the homes and power the vehicles in the US of A? You would think there would be some sort of mark up on the oil we sell, but no, we promised that we would never sell oil to the US for more than we charged ourselves. I'm not complaining though, thoes American companies pay the employees here a shit load of money. :D I know I know, keep the topic on growing.... I'm just really baked, had that on my mind and started typing.

Ciao
:stoned: Chuck

[19Chuck85]

Well 2 of them came down four days ago, and 1 of them came down two days ago, hung them for a few days (3-1), I then used a small dehydrator to do the rest of the drying (1.5 days). The buds are currently all in 3 airtight glass jars (tops, mids, lows) and I am getting decently high (higher than expected :thumbsup: ) smoking the lows. I'm looking foward to the time I smoke the tops which will be a while yet since I'm smoking the lows then the mids first.

For thoes of you who just scan posts, I pulled exactly 1oz of dry stemless bud. :)

Thanks to thoes who helped and made comments.

Catcha later,
:jointsmile: Chuck

oh yeah...NO SEEDS!!