KARMA

[drum]

ive been lookin at so much shit about god does exist does not.
do any of you believe in karma? either way i was wonderin what you guys think karma is, if it exists, consequences etc

thanks. liam

[xxxhazexxx]

they no god or devil theres good and bad in everyone its up to you witch road you take,you do good and good things will happen for you, and and the same happens with the bad, i belive in karmawhat goes round comes round that why you should love your bros and sisters:S5: :S5: :S5:

[2600HERTZ]

I think karma is proof of the power of our own minds. Things we do good, and things we do bad get imprinted in the back of our minds. Then we reward ourselves or punish ourselves.

This is a good description.

[gabee42ee]

i don't belive in karma ... i think that there are lots of things that happen throughout our lives that we cannot explain. People are constanlty trying to explain why things happen, and i think that karma is just another way of trying to explain things that happen. I belive that good and bad things are constantly occuring and that it has nothing to do with the good or bad things we did before. Sometimes things just happen.
:jointsmile:

[notransfer]

if you live a good life youll notice good things happen..simply because you appreciate each thing more...if youre destroying yourself and living in 'sin' you wont appreciate the good anymore and it will seem like only negative things happen..because good is taken for granted..

i kinda believe in karma...you will believe in it i think when you actually experience it enough and recognize it to the point it isnt just few and far between random coincidences...it doesnt have to be called karma...its just the 'good brings good bad brings bad goes around comes around' concept is coined 'karma'


I think karma is proof of the power of our own minds. Things we do good, and things we do bad get imprinted in the back of our minds. Then we reward ourselves or punish ourselves.


i think perception has tons to do with this...and so many many other things in life.

[ericwt]

I believe in Karma. But I also believe we can go beyond karma.

Karma can be a bitch folks. What you put out in energy you will receive back three fold.

But once the piper is paid, you can use karma and then propel yourself to where all the karma is positive and better than you expected it.

Life can be fun but it is always interesting.
:jointsmile:

[delusionsofNORMALity]

if you consider reality as a closed system, then the quality of the energy you expel cannot help but influence the energy you receive.



did that make any sense at all? probably not, the voices in my head are making a whole lot of racket tonight and i'm having trouble forming coherent thoughts at the moment.

[Oneironaut]

Karma does not exist. There are lots of good things that happen to bad people, and bad things that happen to good people. While it is true that if you're a dick people will be a dick back to you, and if you're nice people might be nice back to you, that's not so much karma as it is basic psychology. If the universe had a built-in justice-creating force like karma or a deity who gives two shits about us, there would be no infant mortality, no 9/11, no Hurricane Katrina, no gigantic tsunamis, no world hunger, and no AIDS epidemic.

[Gatekeeper777]

boy george summed it up when he said " Karma Karma Karma chameleon."

[drum]

Karma does not exist. There are lots of good things that happen to bad people, and bad things that happen to good people. While it is true that if you're a dick people will be a dick back to you, and if you're nice people might be nice back to you, that's not so much karma as it is basic psychology. If the universe had a built-in justice-creating force like karma or a deity who gives two shits about us, there would be no infant mortality, no 9/11, no Hurricane Katrina, no gigantic tsunamis, no world hunger, and no AIDS epidemic.


1st point accepted. but on the issue of world disasters i cant help but feel that it does still have a bearing on bad things in the world being repayed as a lesson. i have o admit i have problems with such an energy existing so black and white, but i cant help feel that for whatever reason it happens whether supernatural or merely psychology it a good ethic and a persistent true theory
:stoned:

[JunkYard]

Karma certainly exists. You live and every action is a seed that grows until it "bears fruit" that fruit is the karma, or "harvest" as Jesus put it. Billion got it part right...our minds harbor the effects of our actions, but our actions also effect others, and how they effect others, determines the consequence "Karma" that comes back to you from those people.


You reap what you sow, so to speak. :D


*Sends out positive vibes* :hippy:


Love,

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

god is something you have to figure out for yourself, by yourself.

no one can tell you what god is, but you.


sure you can look to other philosophies and religions for insights, but they cannot tell you. only you can.

[harris7]

My philosophy of Law teacher told us that Karma has only been found in Buddhist tradition for only the last 200 or so years. So it was kind of “made up” not too long ago

I haven’t verified this though

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Hinduism involves karma... >.< and im pretty sure paganism does too, or has something not dissimilar.

[Antihero867]

I think karma is proof of the power of our own minds. Things we do good, and things we do bad get imprinted in the back of our minds. Then we reward ourselves or punish ourselves.

Thats probably the best theory about karma ive ever heard. Our minds are verry powerful and we have only scratched the surface of them. The average human only uses about 12% of their brain. Their are so many secrets that we haven't unlocked yet.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

The universe is a mirror. ;)

not quite, but impeccably close, rather, it is an attempt to reflect upon itself...




but a singularity cannot reflect itself without a second entity to observe it's reflection upon!


a mirror does not reflect itself but the universe around, or in front of, it.


the universe attempts to reflect itself.

[marvelous22]

I definetly beleive in Karma. I had an experience yesterday actually. I stole my friends red bull from his pocket wene i had really bad cotton mouth and drank the whole thing. He didnt even know until like a hour later.... That night i lost my cell phone and keys =(.... He didnt take it so i guess it was God =)

[bigfatty69]

[quote=harris7]My philosophy of Law teacher told us that Karma has only been found in Buddhist tradition for only the last 200 or so years. So it was kind of â??made upâ?� not too long ago

Karma is one of the founding principles of Hinduism. Karma was first introduces in the 6th century B.C. in the epic Mahabharata, 2500 years ago. Tanks for playing come again.

[harris7]

[quote=harris7]My philosophy of Law teacher told us that Karma has only been found in Buddhist tradition for only the last 200 or so years. So it was kind of â??made upâ?� not too long ago

Karma is one of the founding principles of Hinduism. Karma was first introduces in the 6th century B.C. in the epic Mahabharata, 2500 years ago. Tanks for playing come again.

Iâ??m sure your right. But lets not be too harsh. I didnâ??t state it as fact, I shared my experience.

[Thepossumdance]

come on now harris you know the 1st rule of forums if you state something as fact or even if you say you think something is true and you are proved wrong... that person gets to trash u as bad as they want (within forum rules)
why you might ask? cause you could have just googled or wikied it and been right
besides dont get down, karma will get them back for u lol...

[harris7]

Sorry it was actually my Philosophy of Religion Teacher.

He’s a smart guy, I probably misunderstood him

[Amun]

This is a good description.

but also, ifyou hear person A shot person B , would you really have the same amount of trust (or completely same opinion) for person A than if he wouldnt have doen something that bad?

but, i dont know....i kinda to believe in karma.

[Amun]

ok, my post doesnt make sense to me anymore

;D

[JunkYard]

lmao, Amun...it didn't make sense to me, either. Smoke a bowl and maybe it'll come back to ya!!

:thumbsup:

[Amun]

lol i think thats what the problem was.

;D

[JeenYuss]

I think karma is proof of the power of our own minds. Things we do good, and things we do bad get imprinted in the back of our minds. Then we reward ourselves or punish ourselves.

o yea billionfold i was guna ask u the other day but i 4got

does yr name have something to do with the threefold/sevenfold/tenfold law of return thats in most religions

[iPot]

I beleive in Karma. But I don't think it's anything to do with punishment or reward, I think these are abstractions we have placed upon our perception of what Karma is. I read a book* once about how life and ecosystems are based on self regulating chaotic networks. The nature of Chaos is such that it is repetitive, but never in the same way, like the snowflake. Karma is a conceptual manifestation, or an isomorphism of this scientific perspective.

I tihnk I have experienced both the rewarding and the punishing effects of Karma. I recently did something bad, nothing like realy terrible or anything, but something I felt ashamed of afterwards for a long time. It wasn't until I experienced the exact same thing in a reciprocal sense that I got over the guilt of my sin, like I felt that the instance had resettled an imbalance I had created and I was eventually in some way grateful it had happened. I broke one of the ten commandments, look you know I'm not preaching Christianity here, but I really think what it is saying is fundamentally correct and pretty much the same as what other religious texts are saying. Anyway, without going into the detail I swear this must be more than a coincidence.

*The Web of Life - Capra
with perhaps Chaos - Gleick as Capra doesn't explain Chaos in enough detail

[MarzVooolta]

When people think of Karma , there perception of Karma is just.. flawed. Your automatically inclined to have thoughts of good and evil and "what comes around goes around" but thats a Western outlook. The Koran and other holy books and well as many literature explain Karma as not a system of reward vs punishment but a system of polarity. In reality there is no "good and bad." Right and wrong only have meaning when you assign it; perception is subjective. This is how I always explained Karma. Its is a circle that one goes though and along this circle are experiences that require decisions that will change the outcome of your life and , based upon what your senses tell, you label something as positive or negative . This triggers an energy that leads you to the next experience that may have steered you off your "ideal path", like a chain reaction that eventually "sees its way back around" and you experience the direct opposite sensation of that origina experience with which you associated good and bad karma with.

[Erosea]

Thats probably the best theory about karma ive ever heard. Our minds are verry powerful and we have only scratched the surface of them. The average human only uses about 12% of their brain. Their are so many secrets that we haven't unlocked yet.

Actually.... we use just about 100% of our brains. I don't know how that ridiculous rumor got started, but it isn't true. Perhaps we don't use our minds to their full potentials (which *is* most likely true!), but we do use all of it, at least a little bit.

Anyway, about the original post, yes, I do believe in karma. You reap what you sow, what comes around goes around, etc. I'm not sure why it works that way, it could be our own minds causing it (as one person suggested) or it could be the natural order of things, or it could be some kind of God imposing it - I don't know. My take on karma is like this, if you're ignorant in this life, if you go off your path, if you don't experience and learn what's given to you, then you're just going to have to try and learn the same lessons again in the next life.

And to the person who said something about it only being added to Buddhist thought several hundred years ago - I don't know if that's true or not (my gut reaction is that it isn't) but the idea of karma began thousands of years ago with Hinduism, and later carried over to Buddhism and other similar Eastern religions.

[PureEvil760]

dont really understand karma but i believe you pay your karma after you die then after your done you return to god (yourself)

[FreeVenice]

My girl thinks I have perfect Karma, every time something goes against/negative towards me it gets turned around quick (Knock on wood*). For example, when we get into tiffs and she is obviously in the wrong, she ends up doing something goofy like tripping or breaking something by accident. It's kinda funny, cause I'm starting to belive her. . .