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Coelho
02-08-2007, 09:03 PM
I have been reading the posts of this forum about hash oil, and seems the people thinks making hash oil is somewhat difficult, even dangerous. I dont know what recipe you are using... anyway, i made hash oil with a easy and cheap technique, and with good results. I would like to put some pictures, but unfortunately i have not even a webcam :( and sorry for my english... translating while half baked is not nice :stoned:

Ingredients:
- Weed
- Acetone (nail polish remover)
- One small glass bottle

Instructions:
Even if there is contradictory opinions about decarboxilating weed in this forum, from my experiences it seems to work very well, so the first step is decarboxylate the weed. It can be done by several ways.

You can follow the Master Wu's technique:
"2. Place in a shallow pan (a sheet of aluminum foil works great) and bake at 325°F for 5 minutes."
(http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/82380-definitive-green-dragon-revised-updated-combined.html)

Or the boiling water technique:
"The potency of marijuana can be increased by about 50% simply by simmering a water slurry of the material for 2 hours. Add water as necessary to maintain the level. Dry the leaf material at low heat."
(from Robert A. Nelson: Hemp Husbandry ~ Cannabinoid Chemistry (Ch 6) (http://www.rexresearch.com/hhusb/hh6thc.htm))

Or just microwave the weed for some 5 minutes. This last technique (microwaving) were not tested by me, but there were people which did it and said it worked.

Anyway, after the weed were decarboxylated by any of this techniques (if you dont want decarboxilate your weed, start from here) it must be grinded. If the weed were "cooked" in the decarboxylation precess, it will be much easier to grind, as the weed will be crunchy and dry.

Put the grinded weed into the glass little bottle. Add the acetone to it. The volume of the liquid must be about 2 times the volume of weed in the bottle (see figure 1 below). Close the bottle very well (as acetone is very volatile), and shake it vigorously. Let it in a dark place for 1-2 days. It will allow the THC to dissolve in the acetone. (it must be a dark place, cause light decomposes the thc)

Remember the acetone is a VERY flammable thing, so all the steps must be made far from fire or heat sources. An important thing to consider is the purity of the acetone. Here in brasil the acetone sold as nail polish remover have 50-60% of purity. It works, but as purer, as better. Usually there is an indication of the purity grade written in the bottle, so when you buy, try buy the acetone with the greater purity.

After the 1-2 days, the acetone will have turned to dark green/brown. Darker it is, more THC it contains. Them carefully drop only this dark liquid into a shallow dish. Try avoid the weed fall into the dish. It is somewhat difficult, but with some practice it becomes easier. (see figure 2)
Let the dish in a dark and well ventilated place to the acetone evaporate. It MUST be a safe place, far from fire or any source of heat/sparks, as the acetone is very flammable.
Depending on the temperature, and the amount of acetone, it can take 1-2 days to evaporate. If the weather were too cold, put a fan in front of the dish, to facilitate the evaporation.

When almost all acetone were evaporated, there will be a dark layer of an oily/sticky substance on the dish. Sometimes, depending the purity of the acetone, there is a small amount of a water-like liquid together this oily thing. If this water-like liquid were clear, almost transparent, you can throw this liquid away, as all the THC is already deposited in the dish. (when the THC is dissolved in a liquid, the liquid becomes dark)

This dark sticky resin is the hash oil. Now it is the most boring part. Scrape it from the dish. The hash oil is one of the more stickiest substances, so its a shit to scrape it. Put some warm water into the dish, as it makes the hash stick less to the dish, and with a round-pointed knife scrape all the dark resin. It takes *a lot* of time and patience. If you need to touch the resin, wet your fingers, as water difficults the hash oil to stick. Try to make a ball with the resin.

And its ready! It can be smoked by several ways... chose the one of your preference... and remember the hash oil is stronger than the weed used to make it, so be careful, ou your will become :stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned:

And good luck for all! :thumbsup:


PS. Mods feel free to move this thread to where it belongs. I post here cause it seems the better place. But you shall know better :thumbsup:

Nochowderforyou
02-08-2007, 09:22 PM
It isn't hard to make hash oil. You just soak the cannabis in your choice of material and evaporate the chemical using low heat or nothing at all.

But saying it isn't dangerous is untrue. Many people have blown themselves up being careless doing it.

One of the main threats is doing it inside with no proper ventilation. What happens is the chemicals fumes start to evaporate and build up in your house. Any spark can blow you to pieces.

Another threat is using an open flame. It's highly flammable stuff.

Another one is some people let the chemical heat up to too high of a temp. and it combusts into a huge flame.

But what it all comes down to is common sense, and some people either weren't born with it, or haven't been taught to use common sense. I mean, before anyone should try this, they should know they are dealing with a highly flammable material, and adding direct fire or extreme heat will result in an explosion.

Not saying it is dangerous is misleading. It is very dangerous if you don't take the proper precautions.

Out of the many times I've made oil, I have never burned myself. The only time it caught fire was when I did it outside on a bunsen burner and I let it sit on the flame for too long. It started boiling big time then blew up.

That was my own fault though. :p

Bong30
02-09-2007, 12:00 AM
I like the BTU extraction method....

I have made a device from parts at home depot...that I can make nice honey oil. It is super dangerous. You have to know what you are doing. Mainly in a ventalaed place...IE outside...no smokers....
some day illpost it

darkside
02-09-2007, 02:05 AM
I want one of theseEden Labs LLC (http://www.edenlabs.org/home_light_commercial)

rabbitcatcher
02-09-2007, 04:24 AM
im assuming during the waiting periods keep everything at room temperature?

Coelho
02-10-2007, 01:11 AM
yes... always at room temperature.
(even cause heating any flammable liquid is a unnecessary danger... better wait for it evaporate by itself)

russ-bob
02-10-2007, 02:53 AM
dude im scared of this method im not shure right now but im looking up the adatives in nailpolishremover i wouldent wanna smoke those compounds... Acetone is taken out of crude oil by fractional distolation and therefore not always pure heres some info on it you may be fine you may not be i wouldent take the risk unles i knew i was getting pure Acetone Acetone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone)
~Russ~

Coelho
02-10-2007, 06:41 PM
well... your concerns about the purity of acetone are very reasonable. Of course it would be much better if you could make has oil with pure acetone. Anyway, most of the another substances added in it are another volatile organic solvents, which shall evaporate too. The not-so-volatile ones are the water-like liquid which remains in the dish, and are washed away. Even if something remain mixed with the hash oil, you must remember the amount of this substance would be very small (as the amount of hash smoked is usually very small too). And remember, too, when we smoke the weed, we inhale all the smoke of burnt weed, which contains lots of harmful chemicals, tars, etc, and in a far greater quantity than anything present in a small piece of hash oil. So, all in all, i still think smoking hash oil is healthier than smoking weed. :thumbsup:

FreeVenice
02-11-2007, 12:30 AM
Nice post. I'll be all over that in april. . .

Frivolous248
03-15-2007, 02:00 AM
What percentage of the original yield do you get?

How much did you use and how much did you get?

What would be the smallest amount to use. I might wanna try this with a few grams...

Coelho
03-15-2007, 05:04 AM
Well... i used mids (only because i hadnt anything better :(), and the weight of hash oil i got was about 10% of the weight of the raw weed. Probably better weed will produce more oil.

The smallest amount of weed i used was 1-2g. It did make a small ball of hash with about 1/4 inch (6mm). The only problem with very small amounts is scrape it from the dish, as it forms a very thin layer. For small amounts i would suggest to evaporate it in a wine cup (or anything with a spherical bottom). Smaller the surface of the acetone, greater the thickness of the layer of hash oil, and easier to scrape.

For me, a small ball with 3mm (1/8inch) is enough. But i have a somewhat low tolerance, so probably you will need some more.

And good luck! :thumbsup:

soteksguard
03-15-2007, 06:01 AM
I use everclear when I do this. I feel like smoking that is probably better than smoking nail polish.

Coelho
03-15-2007, 07:00 PM
Everclear is alcohol dont? I use it when i make green dragon. It will work for hash oil too.
The only differences are the THC is more soluble in acetone than in alcohol, so you must use more alcohol, or let the weed soaking it more time. And alcohol takes more time for evaporate too.
But this are small diferences, and any apropriate solvent must work as well.

soteksguard
03-16-2007, 12:41 AM
I'll buy a half ounce and leave it in a fifth of everclear for a few weeks, and just kinna take a little bit of booze off of the top from time to time---not much, though, and I won't do that after the first few days.

Coelho
03-24-2007, 08:33 AM
you could make the process of extraction of the THC way faster, just simmering it in a water bath, as described in the Green Dragon recipe:
http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/82380-definitive-green-dragon-revised-updated-combined.html
then, instead weeks, the process of making hash oil would take just a couple of days! :thumbsup:

Reefer Rogue
03-24-2007, 08:47 AM
Good to know the information is available but i won't be making any hash oil any time soon.

robert42
03-24-2007, 07:25 PM
Good to know the information is available but i won't be making any hash oil any time soon.

in the UK Cannabis Oil is a class A!

go toke up
04-23-2007, 12:56 AM
nice guide coelho

LIP
04-23-2007, 11:17 AM
in the UK Cannabis Oil is a class A!

I know - i just keep wondering why? I mean, yes, it's stronger, but no more dangerous.

Delta9 UK
04-23-2007, 11:44 AM
BHO is better imho

I use a HoneyBee with some high purity Butane and have Hash-oil ready to smoke in less than one hour.

Must use dry trim though - at least with QWISO you can wash green cuttings ;)

melodious fellow
10-15-2007, 02:05 PM
well... your concerns about the purity of acetone are very reasonable. Of course it would be much better if you could make has oil with pure acetone.

i would like to make the oil, but i am rather afraid of smoking something with nail polish remover as well....

Acetone is an irritant and inhalation may lead to hepatotoxic effects (causing liver damage). The vapors should be avoided. In no circumstance should it be consumed directly or indirectly. Always use goggles when handling acetone; it can cause permanent eye damage (corneal clouding).

how long have you been doing this, Coelho? from your posts, i gather you are quite intelligent. do you do this often, and where did you hear about this method? maybe we could check with a chemist or a doctor or both? i would really like to try this soon. peace

angry nomad
10-15-2007, 02:31 PM
I really want to make hash oil, but there is no way in hell i am putting acetone on my weed. Is there another method?

Chong Version 2.0
10-15-2007, 03:35 PM
I use pure ethanol and run it through a coffee filter to remove the pulp. My sister works at a lab. :jointsmile:

Coelho
10-16-2007, 09:47 AM
I really want to make hash oil, but there is no way in hell i am putting acetone on my weed. Is there another method?

Why not??? Acetone is the best of all solvents used for making hash oil, as it doesnt dissolve pigments, many tars, and so, making the purity of the extracted oil greater.

Anyway... there is the BHO (Butane Honey Oil) extraction... its very different from this one i posted... just search, there is a lot of threads about it.

Also, you can make green dragon (which means just use ethanol instead acetone), then evaporate all the alcohol. The remains of the evaporation are also hash oil. Note that alcohol dissolves a lot of more things than acetone, including clorophylle, other pigments, tars, so the quality of your hash oil will be lesser. Anyway, for smoking purposes its as good as acetone! :rastasmoke::stoned:

cornish_dope
10-17-2007, 03:41 PM
you can always get a sieve or silk screen freeze the green then shake off the crystals onto a clean surface scrape it into some tinfoil fold it into a square then wrap it into a sheet of wet paper fold it up and bake for 1/2 an hour at low tempreture let it cool and then smoke some very potent hash

angry nomad
10-17-2007, 04:02 PM
Why not??? Acetone is the best of all solvents used for making hash oil, as it doesnt dissolve pigments, many tars, and so, making the purity of the extracted oil greater.

Anyway... there is the BHO (Butane Honey Oil) extraction... its very different from this one i posted... just search, there is a lot of threads about it.

Also, you can make green dragon (which means just use ethanol instead acetone), then evaporate all the alcohol. The remains of the evaporation are also hash oil. Note that alcohol dissolves a lot of more things than acetone, including clorophylle, other pigments, tars, so the quality of your hash oil will be lesser. Anyway, for smoking purposes its as good as acetone! :rastasmoke::stoned:

But isn't there going to be acetone residue in the hash oil?

Coelho
10-17-2007, 08:57 PM
The acetone, and most of the another substances added in it (as acetone rarely is 100% pure) are volatile organic solvents, which will evaporate.
The not-so-volatile ones are the water-like liquid which remains in the dish, and are washed away. Even if something remain mixed with the hash oil, you must remember the amount of this substance would be very small (as the amount of hash smoked is usually very small too).
And remember, also, that when we smoke the weed, we inhale all the smoke of burnt weed, which contains lots of harmful chemicals, tars, etc, and in a far greater quantity than anything present in a small piece of hash oil. So, all in all, i think smoking hash oil is still healthier than smoking weed. :thumbsup:

angry nomad
10-18-2007, 06:50 PM
The acetone, and most of the another substances added in it (as acetone rarely is 100% pure) are volatile organic solvents, which will evaporate.
The not-so-volatile ones are the water-like liquid which remains in the dish, and are washed away. Even if something remain mixed with the hash oil, you must remember the amount of this substance would be very small (as the amount of hash smoked is usually very small too).
And remember, also, that when we smoke the weed, we inhale all the smoke of burnt weed, which contains lots of harmful chemicals, tars, etc, and in a far greater quantity than anything present in a small piece of hash oil. So, all in all, i think smoking hash oil is still healthier than smoking weed. :thumbsup:

hmm.... okay. thanks.

Coelho
10-19-2007, 12:03 AM
You are welcome... try it and you will love it! :thumbsup::rastasmoke::stoned:

kayakman04
10-30-2007, 08:43 PM
Would mineral spirits be an acceptable solvent for this method?

Coelho
11-06-2007, 10:38 PM
I dont know... what do you mean with "mineral spirits"?... do you know what is its chemical composition?

kayakman04
11-07-2007, 12:14 AM
I don't know its chemical composition, but it is a common solvent. Maybe I should stick to ethanol or acetone.

klondike_bar
11-07-2007, 02:20 AM
i avoid acetone unless its fully evaporated, in which case the hash oil becomes more solid.

Coelho
11-07-2007, 08:47 AM
Man... i just searched about this mineral spirits... DONT use it! Its a mixture of hydrocarbons (therefore related to gasoline) with a not-so-low boiling point (150-200 C). It means that the time you would have to wait until it evaporates would be TOO long, and also, the amount of it that would remain in the hash oil would be large. So, you would be smoking it mixed with the hash oil, and i think it would not be healty.
Thats one of the reasons because i use acetone. It evaporates at only 36C, so the hash oil i get is solvent-free. Everclear (alcohol) is not so good as acetone, as the THC is less soluble, and also takes more time to dissolve in it than in acetone, but works well too.

kayakman04
11-08-2007, 04:35 PM
I will definitly stay away from the mineral spirits then. Gotta get my hands on some acetone, and some bud for that matter.

Dec. 21 2012
11-09-2007, 02:16 AM
Hey Coelho. So would an eighth give me a good amount of hash oil? And what would be a good way to smoke the hash oil? I'd like to try it by itself. Could I put a drop or two on a spoon, light the bottom, and inhale the fumes?

Oh yeah, will it really be oilly? Or more of a hash crust?

Dec. 21 2012
11-09-2007, 02:29 AM
One more thing. This guide seems too simple, does it really work?

Coelho
11-09-2007, 03:19 AM
Hey Coelho. So would an eighth give me a good amount of hash oil?

Well... 1/8 is 3.5g... the amount of hash oil you would get with this amount of weed is a ball with about 1cm of diameter... maybe some more, maybe some less, it depends on the quality of the weed, how much time you let it soaking in acetone, etc...


And what would be a good way to smoke the hash oil? I'd like to try it by itself. Could I put a drop or two on a spoon, light the bottom, and inhale the fumes?

I use a plastic bottle to smoke it... for me, its the most effective way to do it...


Get a plastic bottle, and make a small hole near its bottom. Put a tube through it, like a pen, or anything like it.
Take a square of tinfoil, with about 1 inch, and put the hash in the middle of it. If the hash were solid, hold the tinfoil with a pliers (or anything suitable), put a lighter under it and heat it gently, for melt the hash and made it spread a bit over the tinfoil.
Put a smaller piece of tinfoil over the hash, so it will be "sandwiched" between the two pieces of tinfoil. Be sure that the smaller piece of tinfoil is smaller than the mouth of the bottle.
Then, put the tinfoils at the mouth of the bottle. The smaller piece must be into the bottle. Then, use the remaining of the larger tinfoil to wrap it around the mouth of the bottle, so it dont fall.
Finally, put a lighter under the tinfoil, heat until the hash start to smoke, and breathe the smoke from the tube.
The figure below shows what i mean...


Oh yeah, will it really be oilly? Or more of a hash crust?

It depends on the quality (purity) of the acetone you use, the room temperature, and where you evaporate it.
Like... if you use pure acetone, the hash will be harder, if the acetone were not so pure (here in brasil, when sold as nail polish remover it is 60% acetone and 40% alcohol), the hash oil be more oily.
If the evaporation were made in hot weather, the hash will be harder than in cold weather.
For this small amount of weed, i suggest you to evaporate it in a wine cup, as small as possible, and with a round bottom. The hash oil will be spread through the cup, forming a thin layer. Scrape ALL this layer, no matter how thin it be, cause even a very thin layer when scraped forms a ball of hash oil with a nice size. And a ball with only 3mm of diameter is enough for make you HIGHH :stoned:
Also, the thinest parts of the layer usually are harder, and the thicker parts of it are usually oilyer.


One more thing. This guide seems too simple, does it really work?

Yes, it works... ive been using this recipe for more than 2 years... in fact, since 2005 i only smoke hash oil made with this recipe, and have been stoned (very stoned in fact :stoned:) since then... :jointsmile::rastasmoke:

Anyway, good luck, and any questions, just ask! :thumbsup:

Dec. 21 2012
11-09-2007, 03:39 AM
Will potent weed make for very potent hash oil? Because I can get medical quality, well I don't know if it's that good but it can get me stoned in one hit.

And is it difficult to break up a ball of hash oil? I might not want to smoke it all in one go. I want enough for me and enough for my friend.

Coelho
11-09-2007, 04:55 AM
Well... as stronger the weed, stronger the hash oil. Note that the hash oil is FAR more potent than the weed you use to make it... so, in the first time you were smoke it, smoke a very small amount, or you will be completly absolutely amazingly HIGHH :stoned:
And the hash oil is not exactly solid... it resembles honey... when i say a "ball" of hash oil, i mean rather a drop of it, as it is something between liquid and solid... and it is EXTREMELY sticky, so it sticks to EVERYTHING. I store it in a small plastic container used to store pills, and i use a needle to get the amount i will smoke.
BTW... i would say its impossible to smoke all the hash oil made with 3.5g of weed... you would pass out before finishing it... try to start with a small ball with some 2-3mm of diameter... then smoke more, if it were not enough.

Dec. 21 2012
11-11-2007, 05:40 AM
Hey Coelho, do you have a simple way to make some Green Dragon?

Breukelen advocaat
11-11-2007, 08:02 AM
This is a picture of the type of glass jars that some people marketed hash oil in, many years ago. A gram of oil would fill about half a jar. They originally had black screw-on tops, but I misplaced them.

Coelho
11-12-2007, 04:51 AM
Hey Coelho, do you have a simple way to make some Green Dragon?

Well.. the way i use for making it is very similar to this recipe:

http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/82380-definitive-green-dragon-revised-updated-combined.html

Its VERY well explained and very detailed... the only differences from this recipe to what i do is: i use pure alcohol (everclear) instead rum, and i heat the weed in the alcohol for one entire hour, instead the time said in the recipe.

BTW... making hash oil from green dragon is very easy also... when the green dragon were ready, filter it, so you will get only the liquid, and not the leaves, then heat this liquid until all the alcohol evaporate. The tar-like residue left is hash oil.

And BA, do you know where i could find some glasses like that ones? Cause they seem perfect for storing hash oil...

itsme5k
01-10-2008, 11:51 AM
Does anyone else here use butane to perform a supercritical extraction?
I think its great there is no great risk of explosion of you evaporate outside in a water bath, and only takes a few minutes.
Just make sure no one is smoking as you are doing it. (unless you want a nice big fireball)
You can then mix with 4:1 ratio isopropyl alcohol and heat in a boiling water bath to boil off any remaining more volatile solvents.
It is a thin golden liquid which is easy to work with (ie in an eye dropper bottle) which you can just drip onto a ciggie or into a vaporizer. Does not take too long to dry and has a really nice taste.

mark08
06-08-2008, 11:22 PM
yoo man i got a couple questions for ya, will this work with if i dont use actual buds like if i used stem, leaf and shake instead? and where would be the safest place to leave the bottle of acetone + weed? and how much do u think will be made with approx 20 grams of weed?

killerweed420
06-09-2008, 01:33 AM
I've just started with the butane method and I was surprised at how simple it is to do and how smooth the smoke was. Most of the hash I've had was hard to take.
Honey Oil or BHO is what its called.

Coelho
06-09-2008, 04:32 AM
yoo man i got a couple questions for ya, will this work with if i dont use actual buds like if i used stem, leaf and shake instead?

Yes... it would work, but the hash oil you would get would be far less potent than if you use buds... but i think even so it still would be very worth of smoking.


and where would be the safest place to leave the bottle of acetone + weed?

Well... the bottle must be in a cool and dark place (as light destroys the THC), and FAR from anything which generate sparks, heat, or anything like this, as acetone is very flamable... but, besides this, any place would work.


and how much do u think will be made with approx 20 grams of weed?

Man... the amount of hash oil you get from weed depends on the type of weed you get... but i would say, in average, from my own experiments, that 20g of weed would produce about 2g of pure hash oil... and its a LOT! If the weed were better than mids, it would be enough for some 200 highs... :stoned::thumbsup:

mark08
06-09-2008, 04:03 PM
aright thanks man, one more question lol i've left the weed in the acetone for about 24 hours now, the colour is now a very dark greenish brown color is ready to put onto the plate?

Coelho
06-09-2008, 05:48 PM
aright thanks man, one more question lol i've left the weed in the acetone for about 24 hours now, the colour is now a very dark greenish brown color is ready to put onto the plate?

It is... but still there is some THC left in the weed. So, after you put the brown acetone in the plate, put some pure acetone in the bottle with weed and let it soaking for about one week, to ensure you extract all the THC that may have remained in the weed after the first extraction.

BTW, while in the recipe ive said to let the acetone evaporate naturally in a plate, when i do it myself i put the acetone in a wine glass, put this glass into a water bath and heat the water with an electric water heater. The water heats the acetone, and it evaporates WAY faster.
I didnt said it in the recipe because doing it is FAR dangerous, as acetone is VERY flammable, and its vapours are even more, so all the caution must be exercised when doing it, to avoid that the acetones vapours enter in contact with anything hot, sparks or flames, that could make it ignite (or even explode).
I noticed that letting the acetone evaporate by itself (without heating) causes the appearing of water in the acetone, and it slows down the evaporation and hinders a bit the hash oil precipitation. But it still works very well. So, you can evaporate it the way you choose.

mark08
06-09-2008, 05:58 PM
ok so how long should it take for the acetone to evaporate if i put the wine glass in a hot water?

NaughtyDreadz
06-09-2008, 06:03 PM
It is... but still there is some THC left in the weed. So, after you put the brown acetone in the plate, put some pure acetone in the bottle with weed and let it soaking for about one week, to ensure you extract all the THC that may have remained in the weed after the first extraction.

BTW, while in the recipe ive said to let the acetone evaporate naturally in a plate, when i do it myself i put the acetone in a wine glass, put this glass into a water bath and heat the water with an electric water heater. The water heats the acetone, and it evaporates WAY faster.
I didnt said it in the recipe because doing it is FAR dangerous, as acetone is VERY flammable, and its vapours are even more, so all the caution must be exercised when doing it, to avoid that the acetones vapours enter in contact with anything hot, sparks or flames, that could make it ignite (or even explode).
I noticed that letting the acetone evaporate by itself (without heating) causes the appearing of water in the acetone, and it slows down the evaporation and hinders a bit the hash oil precipitation. But it still works very well. So, you can evaporate it the way you choose.


Hey cara.. tou querendo comecar um site similar em portugues... final do ano... se quiser contribuir, seria grato!:thumbsup:

Coelho
06-09-2008, 07:10 PM
ok so how long should it take for the acetone to evaporate if i put the wine glass in a hot water?

Well... it depends on the amount of acetone that needs to be evaporated... right now ive just finished doing it... the amount of acetone was about 2oz, and it took about 30 minutes to evaporate completly.

BTW, i just noticed that you MUST re-extract the hash oil from the weed... like you, i evaporated the acetone after one day of soaking the weed in it, and got some amount of hash oil. Then, i put more pure acetone in the (already extracted) weed, and let it for about one week. Then, today i evaporated this acetone and got almost the same amount of hash oil i got in the first extraction. What means the first extraction (letting the weed soak for only one day) only extracted one HALF of the total amount of hash oil the weed could give.

Coelho
06-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Hey cara.. tou querendo comecar um site similar em portugues... final do ano... se quiser contribuir, seria grato!:thumbsup:

Maconha.com? AHuhauahuahauhauahauhau! Pode contar comigo! :rastasmoke:

NaughtyDreadz
06-09-2008, 10:04 PM
Maconha.com? AHuhauahuahauhauahauhau! Pode contar comigo! :rastasmoke:

you read my mind

mark08
06-10-2008, 02:23 AM
the stuff i ended up with is looks kinda like hash oil but its not thick at all its still really watery and smells kinda like the acetone still, should i let it sit for a day or 2 before smoking it?

Coelho
06-10-2008, 05:53 AM
the stuff i ended up with is looks kinda like hash oil but its not thick at all its still really watery and smells kinda like the acetone still, should i let it sit for a day or 2 before smoking it?

Thats very weird... how did you evaporated it?
Also, could you find the composition of the acetone you did use? Usually its written in its bottle... and if you could post some picture of the oil you got, i could try to see what was the problem.

Coelho
06-10-2008, 05:57 AM
you read my mind

Sometimes i do it... im not Paulo, but im also a Coelho... LOL! jk... in fact, i just thought it would be the most appropriate name for it... cannabis in english, maconha in portuguese... i think it would be better than erva.com, fumo.com, bagulho.com, etc... :D

NaughtyDreadz
06-10-2008, 06:07 AM
bagulho.com, etc... :D

Boy... I know all about that... one too many brahmas and I wake up with enough bagulhos.com :D

painretreat
06-10-2008, 12:27 PM
This is a picture of the type of glass jars that some people marketed hash oil in, many years ago. A gram of oil would fill about half a jar. They originally had black screw-on tops, but I misplaced them.

You can buy those bottles with the tops, in the U.S., from Gold Prospecting stores! thot that would help!

Entire Thread very informative! pr:hippy:

MotleyCrue0226
06-10-2008, 05:28 PM
when you pour out the liquid onto a plate could you insted pour it onto a sheet of wax paper? this could make collecting your hash easier? or pour it onto a paper plate, freeze it (possibly making it hard and brittle), then bend the plate to crack off this stiff hash, then warm it with your fingers while rolling it into a ball? sorry im high, i hope to get some insight on this. :stoned:

Coelho
06-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Boy... I know all about that... one too many brahmas and I wake up with enough bagulhos.com :D

LOLOLOL!!! :S2:
Thats one of the reasons why i never drink... :rastasmoke:


You can buy those bottles with the tops, in the U.S., from Gold Prospecting stores! thot that would help!

Well... while im far away from usa, there is gold prospection here also... so, thanks for the info! :thumbsup:


when you pour out the liquid onto a plate could you insted pour it onto a sheet of wax paper? this could make collecting your hash easier? or pour it onto a paper plate, freeze it (possibly making it hard and brittle), then bend the plate to crack off this stiff hash, then warm it with your fingers while rolling it into a ball? sorry im high, i hope to get some insight on this. :stoned:

It wouldnt work, because the hash oil is completly dissolved in the liquid... if i put it in the paper and freeze it, the acetone would never evaporate, and all i would get is a paper soaked in green acetone.
Im almost sure what youre talking about could be done with hash... but hash is not hash oil... they are very different things... only the name is similar.

MotleyCrue0226
06-10-2008, 06:58 PM
would anyone here be willing to guarantee there would be no foul effects due to acitone? also the medical alcohol is dangerous if ingested. in other words after long evaporation what would be left that would be dangerous to our health? i can see there are quite a few skeptics due to the fact acitone alone is prob lethal.

Coelho
06-10-2008, 10:57 PM
would anyone here be willing to guarantee there would be no foul effects due to acitone? also the medical alcohol is dangerous if ingested. in other words after long evaporation what would be left that would be dangerous to our health? i can see there are quite a few skeptics due to the fact acitone alone is prob lethal.

Well... the acetone itself should evaporate completly, as it has a very low boiling point (36C). What could remain is the not-so-volatile impurities of it, which depends on the brand of the acetone you get.
The acetone i use here is actually a mixture of alcohol and acetone, but as the alcohol is also volatile, it evaporates away.
There can be other subtances added besides alcohol, but its written in the composition of it (usually written in the bottle). If you have any doubt about if you should or not use some brand of acetone, tell me what are the other components of your acetone, and ill say if its suitable or not for making hash oil.

Trip06
08-02-2008, 06:33 AM
I had about a zone of some keef. I just put it in a small jar with some. Any guesses how much this will yeild. Im curious in my waiting....

Trip06
08-03-2008, 10:36 PM
apparently I didnt seal the lid tight enouf as all my pressious crystals appeared to evaporate away in the wind. SHHH!T.

Trip06
08-04-2008, 02:49 AM
Coelho I tried this method again followed it to the letter. I used a ounce of swag keef. I ground all the budz in a electric coffee grinder. I scraped the keef off the top that stuck on the lid. I gathered nearly a ounce of keef alone. I put the keef in a small jar with the right amount of acetone. I shook it regularly and kept it in a dark dresser drawr. I waited two days. the liqiud was dark brown. Poured on a plate with boiling water in a pot under it. The result was no honey. In fact it is not a goo but a harder brown solid. I made sure it was really dry by heating it and placeing a fan by it. After I got a small piece as dry as it could possibly get, I felt safe enouf to put it in a one hitter and smoke. Now this shits sposed to be really high thc right? because it absorbs it, well any way I got a quick high but nothing great and it wore off in like 10 minutes. I used a lot of keef. even for regular budz i shoulda got a lot more of a high but didnt. I ended up with about 7 grams of what Id call a poor hash.(NOT OIL) any ways I recomend people not do this IMHO.

Coelho
08-04-2008, 04:44 AM
Well, when i do it, sometimes i get a hard resin, sometimes an oily resin... each kind of weed i use yelds slightly different results... but all are very smokable.
How much of it (grams, or the size of the piece) did you smoke?

Coelho
08-06-2008, 01:44 AM
Ok, this post is a translation to portuguese of the recipe for making hash oil.

Ingredientes:
- Maconha (Oba! :jointsmile:)
- Acetona (removedor de esmalte)
- Uma garrafinha de vidro

Instrucoes:

Primeiro, a erva deve ser descarboxilada par aumentar ao maximo sua potencia. Isto pode ser feito colocando-a durante uns 2-3 minutos no microondas, ou enrolando-a em papel aluminio e colocando-a numa sanduicheira por uns 10 minutos.
(Nota: a erva deve estar inteira (NAO picada) se vc for colocar no microondas... se ela estiver picada, pode pegar fogo. Na sanduicheira tanto faz.)
Essa parada de descarboxilar serve pra erva que vai ser fumada tambem... antes de fumar, experimente fazer isso, e vc vai ver a diferenca...

Depois de descarboxilada, a erva deve estar seca e crocante. Moa bem, ate ela ficar quase um po.

Ponha a erva picada na garrafinha, e adicione acetona. O volume de acetona deve ser pelo menos umas 2 vezes maior que o volume da erva picada (ver fig.1 no post original). Feche bem, pois a acetona evapora facil, e deixe num lugar escuro por varios dias. (1 semana e suficiente). Deve ser um lugar escuro pois a luz destroi o THC. De vez em quando de uma chacoalhada, pra melhorar a dissolucao.

Uma coisa importante e o tipo e a pureza da acetona usada. Normalmente as acetonas vendidas em farmacia como removedor de esmalte tem 50-60% depureza (como escrito no rotulo). Quanto maior a pureza, melhor. Note tambem as outras substancias presentes. Se for alcool (etanol), nao tem problema. Ja outras substancias (ja vi acetona que continha oleo de ricino!) nao prestam. Por isso deve-se tomar cuidado ao comprar a acetona.

Depois desse tempo, a acetona estara escura e tera dissolvido o THC. Deve-se entao evaporar a acetona. Se vc morar num lugar quente, coloque a acetona num prato raso, com cuidado pra que apenas a acetona fique no prato (e nao os restos de erva picada que ficam no fundo da garrafinha). Aqui no RJ, no verao, em menos de uma tarde a acetona evapora toda.

Caso vc more num lugar mais frio, ou se estiver inverno, pode-se evaporar a acetona artificialmente. Note que isto e perigoso, e deve ser feito com TODO o cuidado. Neste caso, bote a acetona numa taca de vinho (ou qualquer outra) com o fundo arredondado. Bote esta taca numa panela com agua, e esquente a agua. Essa agua quente vai aquecer e evaporar a acetona. Se possivel, esquente a agua com um aquecedor eletrico, pois a acetona e ALTAMENTE inflamavel, e fazer isso no fogao eh o maior perigo!

Se possivel, evapore a acetona em um lugar aberto, bem ventilado e longe de fontes de calor, faiscas e quaisquer coisas que possam causar um incendio.

Quando a acetona tiver evaporado, vai ficar um residuo marrom escuro/preto no fundo do prato ou da taca. As vezes, quando se evapora a acetona naturalmente (sem aquecer), fica tambem um pouco de liquido quase transparente que nao evaporou. Se este liquido estiver transparente, pode joga-lo fora sem problemas.

Este residuo é o oleo de hash. Tira-lo do prato ou da taca e uma das coisas mais chatas que tem, pois ele e ALTAMENTE grudento, gruda em tudo! E nao sai depois... por isso tem que tomar cuidado. Use uma faca sem ponta (eu uso uma agulha grossa de metal) pra raspar o oleo. Botar agua no prato ou na taca ajuda bastante, pois debaixo dagua o oleo gruda menos no prato. Se ele estiver muito duro (solido), use agua quente, pois ela deixa o oleo mais mole. Se ele estiver muito mole, use agua fria. Tem uma temperatura ideal em que o oleo desgruda facilmente do prato/taca.
De qualquer forma, va raspando esse oleo e tente fazer uma bolinha com ele. NAO bote as maos nele, pois ele gruda na mao e nao sai mais. Se precisar encostar nele, molhe os dedos, pois a agua diminui a "grudosidade" dele.

E esta pronto! Tem gente que mistura o oleo no beck e fuma, mas eu acho um disperdicio... prefiro bota-lo numa latinha, aquecer por baixo e inspirar os vapores... de qualquer forma, esse oleo de hash e bem mais forte que fumo comum, e apesar da onda ser um pouco diferente da onda do fumo (e mais "limpa" sei la... dificil descrever), ainda sim chapa muuuito... :stoned:

Qualquer duvida, e so postar aqui. :thumbsup:

PS. Ah sim da pra fazer hash oil com pontas sim... ele vai ficar um pouco mais resinoso, ja que as pontas tem um monte dakela resina gosmenta... mas tambem da pra fumar na boa, ainda que o gosto nao fique dos melhores...

braziliantoker
08-09-2008, 04:47 PM
hei Coelho thanks for the translation was very helpful,i have another question,can i do some think about the smell of the acetona,because of my parents,they know i smoke but making oil will be strange you know.well i think it will be difficult because the smell is very strong.thanks carica,e nois.

schighguy
08-11-2008, 06:37 PM
with the amounts of weed used and the danger of actually making it, ill just tsick to buying it from the club at 50-60 a gram

deaner
08-11-2008, 11:10 PM
hey i tried this method, just tried the final product, yay for this dude and this thread. heres my experience. used 100% acetone and used about 1/2 or so ounce of bud/trim/shake, soak for 2 days and then poured the mix through a coffee filter onto a pie baking glass dish, pyrex. 2 days of evaporation using a fan for about half of it, and ended up with what looks like super black tar, fresh shiny tar, semi-fluid, consistency of really really cold honey, mostly solid til ya poke it and its like freshly removed resins. i spread it on some decent bud, stuff that would take 10-15 hits for me to be really enjoyin things, and smoked about a good boogers worth, and yes this shit works, i normally dont dash to the computer to give an enthusiastic reply, im just pretty stoked, looks to be a bunch, if this is all i need, i got a fat marbles worth. im not sure if a good boogers worth is standard measure in your parts, and a fat marbles big, like a cherry, or the perfect nipple.. ok i measured, its between 3 - 4 millimeters.. (the booger, not the perfect nipple)
i really do hope at some point, someone is holding a marble up to their or their partners nipple. thanks for the thread.

SouthernGuerilla
08-15-2008, 05:01 PM
Honey oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_Oil#Manufacturing)

Read!

Acetone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone#Safety)

Also with acetone, its extremely dangerous. If you choose to use acetone buy pure acetone from a hardware or automotive store, it'll be sitting with the rest of the solvents they sell.

I do not use a plastic lid, I instead make a lid with aluminum foil and seal it with a rubber band. You could take your washed plant material and put in between two flat glass plates/discs and squeeze! Or something of a sort!

Be sure that ALL acetone / solvent has evaporated!

AhHello
08-21-2008, 01:25 AM
Honey oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_Oil#Manufacturing)

Read!

Acetone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone#Safety)

Also with acetone, its extremely dangerous. If you choose to use acetone buy pure acetone from a hardware or automotive store, it'll be sitting with the rest of the solvents they sell.

I do not use a plastic lid, I instead make a lid with aluminum foil and seal it with a rubber band. You could take your washed plant material and put in between two flat glass plates/discs and squeeze! Or something of a sort!

Be sure that ALL acetone / solvent has evaporated!


LOL Acetone is dangerous but butane fumes aren't?

Supercritical fluid extraction is the best method which BHO or Butane extraction is. There are solvents that are more selective then others. The best solvent for THC extraction is liquid CO2. It requires a special pressurized unit to extract with CO2 but yields a product of 98% pure cannabinoids which can be purified through isomerization to pure Δ9-THC.

Using solvents such as acetone, alcohol or ether will work to make hash oil, but it takes many more steps to obtain a pure product. Butane extraction is by far the easiest way to make the most pure hash oil. Isomerization of this oil or any oil for that matter, makes the same amount of product much stronger and it takes very little knowledge to perform the most common isomerization method list above.

norcalkush
08-21-2008, 02:07 AM
i use vector 5 filter butane with copper fittins i made from home depot...
1 tea kettle
1brownie pan
1 pyrex pan to fit in the brownie pan
boil water continuasly
put boil water in brownie sheet then pyrex ontop floating ontop the boiling water... do this section outside it is safer as when u blow the only in the pyrex u will c the vapor rising very quickly after u blow all your oil into the pyrex and make shure u were adding boiling water everytime it cold... outside put fresh boil water n cover pyrex with towl i do this for 5 mintues then bring inside an put pyrex in a fry pan full with water n set to boil i do this with hand mittin to hold to pyrex in the boilin water i do this until i c no more bubble rise n should smell srtong to where u wanna sneeze... now u kno no containaments are in your oil

deaner
09-30-2008, 04:53 AM
so is there any way to make the final product harder? its kinda hard to work with and can be messy, i have a system and am very happy with it, but my oil stays in its pyrex dish til its gone, i smoke what i want, leave the rest to scrape another day. I cant figure out how to store it or make it more portable, u dig? i tried making "wafer" sorta things, freezin em, but they were still messy, and i dont want them in my freezer.

im wondering if my final product could be harder if my starting product was completely dry?? either way the stuffs great, i got a jar i will pour tommorow, and a couple days evaporatin later, some crazy good smokin.

any suggestions on smokin it? i scrape it with a razor, scrape it off the razor with a paper clip, then just hit it (the oil laden paperclip) with the lighter for a quick second and drip it onto some bud or some old ragged bowl remnants, and voila!! but id like something a bit easier and not so paperclippy, u know? :stoned:

Coelho
10-02-2008, 01:54 AM
so is there any way to make the final product harder? its kinda hard to work with and can be messy, i have a system and am very happy with it, but my oil stays in its pyrex dish til its gone, i smoke what i want, leave the rest to scrape another day. I cant figure out how to store it or make it more portable, u dig? i tried making "wafer" sorta things, freezin em, but they were still messy, and i dont want them in my freezer.

im wondering if my final product could be harder if my starting product was completely dry?? either way the stuffs great, i got a jar i will pour tommorow, and a couple days evaporatin later, some crazy good smokin.

Well... i noticed that when i let the weed soaking in the acetone for a long time (1-2 weeks), the final product is harder than when i let it soaking for only some days.
Anyway, you could add some powdered shake to it. The shake helps to harden the hash oil. If you add enough of it, you can even make it solid.

joeiskrunk
11-26-2008, 08:36 PM
Hello Coelho, I was just wondering if using 14 grams of vaped weed and maybe adding some little extra amounts to it would yield at least a half gram of honey oil? I would like to use the Butane extraction with the PVC pipe draining into the Pyrex glasses but was also wondering if the isopropyl alcohol or butane extraction is more effective? I live in northern midwest and its getting somewhat cold out would this effect the butane if im doing it in weather outside around 32 Farenheit? I would love to hear some advice.
Much appreciated,
Joe

SirHashaLot
11-29-2008, 10:18 PM
The black paste you guys are getting from this type of solvent extraction is great but like the the guy said it's hard to smoke and "What the hell do you do with it?" -

Here's the Trick of All Tricks:

Make your black paste, then make some bubble hash or good hard cooked keif (you can use regular uncooked keif but your hash will be soft)

Then crumble the bubble hash up and slowly blend it with the oil in ratios that allow it to form a big black ball. eventually all the oil is worked into your ball of bubble hash and you get a big black chunk of black hash. Let it dry and and becomes hard as a rock and is way better to smoke than the oil by itself and can be handled and stored without "sticky loss".

This is what I do to get the most out of the herb. Instead of getting 15% extraction of bubble hash and throwing the rest out, I can get up to 50% of the weight of the original herb turn 1 lb of shake into 1/2lb of decent hash using the oil method.

By the way if you smoke a lot of pot, then you really need this ELEV8 (http://www.elev8me.info)

SirHashaLot
11-29-2008, 10:34 PM
Another tip is to BE FUCKING CAREFUL!

The Solvents you guys are talking about can ignite from an open flame several feet away. my buddy lit a bowl while he was standing next to me watching me do this and the whole fucking thing lit up like a damn Christmas tree!

Always work in a WELL VENTILATED AREA! Don't fuck around and get stone and burn you house down! I was lucky because I had fire safety and knew what to do, but my buddy would have run out of the house and watched it burn down. Then when the cops and fire dept. figure out how the fire started and what I was doing, guess who's fire insurance would not have paid for the damage?!

Instead of using acetone or some other nasty solvent, I use Everclear from the liquor store. it's more expensive but that doesn't matter. it won't hurt you as bad to breath it, doesn't smell as bad, and it's made for human consumption. You can also pour some in at the end of your solvent batch to "Clean" your final product. After you get most

and if you smoke a lot of pot, then you really need this ELEV8 (http://www.elev8me.info)

SirHashaLot
11-29-2008, 11:46 PM
Another tip is to BE FUCKING CAREFUL!

The Solvents you guys are talking about can ignite from an open flame several feet away. my buddy lit a bowl while he was standing next to me watching me do this and the whole fucking thing lit up like a damn Christmas tree!

Always work in a WELL VENTILATED AREA! Don't fuck around and get stoned and burn your house down! I was lucky because I had fire safety and knew what to do, but my buddy would have run out of the house and watched it burn down. Then when the cops and fire dept. figure out how the fire started and what I was doing, guess who's fire insurance would not have paid for the damage?!

Instead of using acetone or some other nasty solvent, I use Everclear from the liquor store. it's more expensive but that doesn't matter. it won't hurt you as bad to breath it, doesn't smell as bad, and it's made for human consumption. You can also pour some in at the end of your solvent batch to "Clean" your final product. After you get most

and if you smoke a lot of pot, then you really need this ELEV8 (http://www.elev8me.info)

my grammar sucks, sorry!

Coelho
12-01-2008, 04:46 AM
Hello Coelho, I was just wondering if using 14 grams of vaped weed and maybe adding some little extra amounts to it would yield at least a half gram of honey oil?

Im almost sure yes, as the weight of hash oil i usually get is about 1/10th of the weight of the weed i start with.


I would like to use the Butane extraction with the PVC pipe draining into the Pyrex glasses but was also wondering if the isopropyl alcohol or butane extraction is more effective?

Well... i dont know. I never did a sucessfull butane extraction (i tried it once but the weather here where i live is way too hot), so i cant compare it with the other solvents.


I live in northern midwest and its getting somewhat cold out would this effect the butane if im doing it in weather outside around 32 Farenheit? I would love to hear some advice.

If i remember rightly, the butanes boiling point is around 40F, so it would take a lot of time to evaporate. It would help a lot the extraction process, as the weed would be soaking in the liquid butane for a longer time, allowing a more effective extraction.
I would suggest you to do the extraction outside, until you fill the pyrex glass with the liquid butane+oil, then go to a warmer place to evaporate it.
Just remember to evaporate it in a place far away from heat sources, sparks, flames, cigarretes, or anything that could ignite the butane fumes, as it is VERY flammable and could easily cause a fire or an explosion.

joeiskrunk
12-02-2008, 05:50 AM
i tried the butane extraction outside and it was cold as hell and out of all 14 grams of the vaporized weed i only got a few highs off of it because the layer was so thin it took forever for me to scrape it... i eventually rubbed joint papers over it and vaporized those which worked out quit well.

Because of my disappointment in the butane extraction i bought as ounce of some mids that encouraged me to try the isopropyl alcohol method. I am currently at the stage of slowly slowly waiting for the isopropyl alcohol to evaporate. If you happen to get with within the next few days could you tell me a safe method to speed the evaporation of the isopropyl. I have been putting in on a coffee machine to warm the liquid to speed up evap. a little.

Would putting boiling water around the glass container speed up significantly since i cant use any flames?

Appreciate the advice,

Joe

Coelho
12-02-2008, 08:20 AM
Yes, putting boiling water around the solvent you want evaporate can make it way faster. When i make hash oil i put a wine glass with acetone (the solvent i use) into a pan with water, and heat it with an electric heater, so the water boils and heats the acetone. Doing so i can evaporate half glass of it (1-2 oz) in about 10 minutes.

How long did you let the weed soaking into the isopropyl alcohol? For making a good exctraction, which get the most of the weed, i must soak it in acetone for about one week. And the acetone dissolves the cannabis resins faster than the isopropyl alcohol, so for making a good extraction you should let it soaking for at least one week.

joeiskrunk
12-09-2008, 07:28 PM
hey i used boiling water to heat the isopropyl alcohol off and it worked very well. I boiled the water and then brought the water to a diff room where i set a glass container with the "stuff" in the water. A fan directed at the water by the window blew out the evaporated isopropyl alcohol.

I got a huge glob probably inbetween a half and full gram but i also have the weed soaking from the same batch that has been in the dark for about a week now. The liquid is just as dark if not darker that the other stuff haha.

How are your preferred ways of smoking it? For me a drop or two on some weed in my hotbox gets me pretty high. And for buying the ounce for 75 it turned out pretty nice.

Do you have any idea if the BHO extraction makes the honey taste different?

Stigma420247
12-09-2008, 09:42 PM
best method to make oil is with butane PERIOD ...

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11-04-2009, 02:10 PM
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aces12
11-29-2010, 01:11 AM
since ancient times alchohol has been made with grains etc....probably one of the oldest solvents / drugs used ....it has also been used from waaay back as a way to make tinctures....stands to reason that if you can use it to make essential oils (hash oil),it was likely done with weed by cavepeople !

organic method of oil extraction....

1.USE everclear...straight grain alch.....no additives...evaporates readily

2. soak weed in jar 48 hours ...use enough alch. to cover ground up weed.

3.separate fiber from 1st cut oil by filtering it thru a coffee filter lining a strainer

4. Repeat filtering as many times as you feel necessary...one more time works for me.

5.a safe and organic way to eliminate the alch is to put the liquid from secon d filtering into a pyrex pie pan and set it out in the sun on a warm SUNNYsummer day or two ...i put it on the dash of my truck .....crack the windows a few inches to vent....

scrape the goo-oil and toke....works well on a paper after you twist one up !

opthalmic solution bottles hold ten grams ...and make real nice containers... i had only one from a prescription so i don't know where to get them...maybe a new product for someone on the retail end (?)

Moirraine
07-18-2013, 07:39 AM
[quote=Coelho]I have been reading the posts of this forum about hash oil, and seems the people thinks making hash oil is somewhat difficult, even dangerous. I dont know what recipe you are using... anyway, i made hash oil with a easy and cheap technique, and with good results. I would like to put some pictures, but unfortunately i have not even a webcam :( and sorry for my english... translating while half baked is not nice :stoned:

Ingredients:
- Weed
- Acetone (nail polish remover)
- One small glass bottle

Instructions:
Even if there is contradictory opinions about decarboxilating weed in this forum, from my experiences it seems to work very well, so the first step is decarboxylate the weed. It can be done by several ways.

You can follow the Master Wu's technique:
"2. Place in a shallow pan (a sheet of aluminum foil works great) and bake at 325°F for 5 minutes."
(http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/82380-definitive-green-dragon-revised-updated-combined.html)

Or the boiling water technique:
"The potency of marijuana can be increased by about 50% simply by simmering a water slurry of the material for 2 hours. Add water as necessary to maintain the level. Dry the leaf material at low heat."
(from Robert A. Nelson: Hemp Husbandry ~ Cannabinoid Chemistry (Ch 6) (http://www.rexresearch.com/hhusb/hh6thc.htm))

Or just microwave the weed for some 5 minutes. This last technique (microwaving) were not tested by me, but there were people which did it and said it worked.

Anyway, after the weed were decarboxylated by any of this techniques (if you dont want decarboxilate your weed, start from here) it must be grinded. If the weed were "cooked" in the decarboxylation precess, it will be much easier to grind, as the weed will be crunchy and dry.

Put the grinded weed into the glass little bottle. Add the acetone to it. The volume of the liquid must be about 2 times the volume of weed in the bottle (see figure 1 below). Close the bottle very well (as acetone is very volatile), and shake it vigorously. Let it in a dark place for 1-2 days. It will allow the THC to dissolve in the acetone. (it must be a dark place, cause light decomposes the thc)

Remember the acetone is a VERY flammable thing, so all the steps must be made far from fire or heat sources. An important thing to consider is the purity of the acetone.........

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Chemicals - petroleum - do NOT belong in cannabis!

Propene is produced from fossil fuelsâ??petroleum, natural gas, and, to a much lesser extent, coal. Propene is a byproduct of oil refining and natural gas processing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene#Production

Alcohol and CO2 extractions NOT "BHO" or ANY FOSSIL FUELS should be used TO EXTRACT ANYTHING that will go into your brain and body.

I am aghast to see acetone even allowed to be voiced as a solvent that is SAFE for the human body.

I am dying from doctor inflicted chemical damage - you people, some of you, seem to want to be in the SAME boat I am in with 24/7 pain and more....

I don't suggest it.

advancedgrower
10-19-2013, 05:05 AM
Making concentrates is a tough job....

xxcujoxx
11-21-2013, 08:09 AM
Hi I have a question if anyone can help me i'd appreciate it. I followed the instructions using pure acetone(product is called acetone and couldn't find any other ingredients listed) Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/acetone-946-ml/912202) < that exact product. roughly 250 ml for 10 g of high end shake. The evaporation process I had windows open through out my apartment fan blowing directly on acetone by wide open window.

I only put a little bit at a time(of the green acetone) and let it evaporate then add more and repeat. It was all evaporated in only 2 hours! Without adding heat on my own. I haven't smoked it yet I'm waiting a couple of days but I think it is ready. Weather outside was 0 degrees Celsius. Is there an explanation for this? I was preparing to do it for a day or two... Now i just have a fan blowing on it but i think its ready, if I turn plate upside down nothing moves but it is oily not hard. Also would putting a little at a time change evaporation time at all? More importantly would the fumes be easier to manage done that way? I take necessary precautions but I'm still paranoid of blowing myself up lol must be the weed.

Anyway what an awesome thread much thanks to Coelho, hopefully my opinion remains the same after I smoke it. Any answers to my questions are greatly appreciated!

WhiteWZRD
12-08-2013, 03:45 PM
The black paste you guys are getting from this type of solvent extraction is great but like the the guy said it's hard to smoke and "What the hell do you do with it?" -

Here's the Trick of All Tricks:

Make your black paste, then make some bubble hash or good hard cooked keif (you can use regular uncooked keif but your hash will be soft)

Then crumble the bubble hash up and slowly blend it with the oil in ratios that allow it to form a big black ball. eventually all the oil is worked into your ball of bubble hash and you get a big black chunk of black hash. Let it dry and and becomes hard as a rock and is way better to smoke than the oil by itself and can be handled and stored without "sticky loss".

This is what I do to get the most out of the herb. Instead of getting 15% extraction of bubble hash and throwing the rest out, I can get up to 50% of the weight of the original herb turn 1 lb of shake into 1/2lb of decent hash using the oil method.

By the way if you smoke a lot of pot, then you really need this ELEV8 (http://www.elev8me.info)

What method would be used to make oil that can be used in trippy sticks/ vap pens?

budbro28
12-13-2013, 05:46 PM
how can you think its safe to smoke shit soaked in butane or finger nail polish remover.carcinogen carcinogen carcinogen....go to walmart and just huff butane or propane...probably fuck you up and be cheap...that is if you dont give a fuck about your brain....i dont care if it evaporates or not...there has to be some residual....VAPe nugs for days....or cold water extract...or grain alcohol