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Psycho4Bud
02-07-2007, 08:59 PM
TALLAHASSEE - Top Florida lawmakers want every 11- and 12-year-old girl in the state to get a vaccination that would protect them before they risk getting a sexually transmitted virus that can cause cervical cancer.

The proposal, backed by Republicans and Democrats, mirrors legislation under consideration in about 20 other states, including Texas, where Gov. Rick Perry issued an executive order Friday that bypassed state lawmakers to mandate the vaccine.

Proponents describe the vaccine Gardasil as a life-saver. Clinical trials show the vaccine blocks four types of the sexually transmitted human papillomavirus, which causes genital warts and about 70 percent of all cervical-cancer cases. The World Health Organization lists cervical cancer as the second most common cancer among women.
MiamiHerald.com | 02/06/2007 | Florida may require vaccine for girls (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/elections/16631033.htm)

This could be something that the state/schools OFFERS but to require it.......kind of crossing lines in my book.

Have a good one!:s4:

Myth1184
02-07-2007, 09:07 PM
11 or 12 year old girls shouldnt be having sex...but again, its not uncommon to see pregnant 12 year olds in the poorer parts of towns

eg420ne
02-07-2007, 10:47 PM
ive known 13yr old girls pregnant b4 then go get an abortion and they live in the rich part of town

Dave Byrd
02-08-2007, 12:46 AM
This is a big controversy here in Texas right now because of the mandate here. The religious right and arch conservatives are all in a tizzy.

The medical thinking on this is that it ought to be a routine vaccination just like the others kids get. They're right on this. Kids at the age of vaccination don't have to be having sex to pick up that virus later and end up with cancer. They could even pick it up from a spouse after they're married. Having the vaccination would simply protect a lot of them from that virus and woulnd't encourage sexual promiscuity any more than the polio vaccine does. It just makes health sense. Cervical cancer is a high frequency disease that costs a lot of money.

What does n't make sense is we don't know enough about the vaccine itself and its long term effects just yet to be making laws saying kids have to have it. They need to probably look at vaccinating boys, too, who carry that virus half the time and transmit it to girls. Those aremy concerns.

Zimzum
02-08-2007, 02:52 AM
Vaccines like polio and Tb I can see the need for in a school system. Lots of kids running around spreading who knows what germs. But STDs aren't normally transmitted by normal school activities. I would rather see this as a womens choice to take much like birth control. What if they came out with a vaccine that would make marijuana's effect null and void on your body.. Wouldn't you rather it be a personal choice and not a requirement to take?

Bong30
02-08-2007, 03:08 AM
i dont like the goverment telling me how to live...or raise my kids, but if this did save my daughter i would consider it with out the goverment telling me i HAD to.

Like Dave Says, I would like to see the long term effects.


I got it....I give it to my daughter at 11, and tell her that she cant have sex for 10 years after that shot......LOL she will be out of college, and out of the house....ahhh nice.

andruejaysin
02-08-2007, 04:10 AM
What if they came out with a vaccine that would make marijuana's effect null and void on your body.. Wouldn't you rather it be a personal choice and not a requirement to take?Certainly, but then cervical cancer isn't something many would choose. Nastier than the mumps, and few raise concerns about personal choice when children are vaccinated for that.
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birdgirl73
02-08-2007, 05:33 AM
They're just looking at giving it to girls at that early age to catch them before they become sexually active. That happens at a frighteningly early age these days, and we know that the sooner a girl begins having sex and the more partners she has, the more likely she is to pick up the HPV virus that can later develop into cervical cancer. It's true that STDs aren't spread through school interaction like, say, polio or measles or whooping cough (there's not a TB vaccine yet, unfortunately, Zim), but they do tend to meet their first sexual partners through school. They're just trying to cast out an early preventative net.

Would I rather it be a personal choice than a government-mandated one? Heck yeah. But I know that there are people out there who'll object to it, just as they do on the grounds that their little darlings shouldn't hear about anything other than abstinence in sex-ed, on the grounds that it'll somehow turn them into little sex-crazed nymphos who'll go out and being screwing everything that walks. That's not the result of birth control education. It's just the fear of parents who're in denial. The sad truth is that middle-school kids are out there screwing like rabbits whether their parents agree to educating them about birth control or STD prevention or providing vaccinations or not. Same thing with allowing them to decide to take the vaccination later as an adult choice. By that time, it's usually too late to protect them. There's a lot of denial about STDs and teen sexual activity. Everyone thinks their little darlings won't get an STD--or grown women believe they won't either. But the chances are dangerously high that they will.

Mrs. Greenjeans
02-08-2007, 06:21 AM
This is a big controversy here in Texas right now because of the mandate here. The religious right and arch conservatives are all in a tizzy.

The medical thinking on this is that it ought to be a routine vaccination just like the others kids get. They're right on this. Kids at the age of vaccination don't have to be having sex to pick up that virus later and end up with cancer. They could even pick it up from a spouse after they're married. Having the vaccination would simply protect a lot of them from that virus and woulnd't encourage sexual promiscuity any more than the polio vaccine does. It just makes health sense. Cervical cancer is a high frequency disease that costs a lot of money.

What does n't make sense is we don't know enough about the vaccine itself and its long term effects just yet to be making laws saying kids have to have it. They need to probably look at vaccinating boys, too, who carry that virus half the time and transmit it to girls. Those aremy concerns.
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slipknotpsycho
02-08-2007, 07:09 AM
they're planning on doing that here in texas too... actually i think our govenor is more or less demanding that there be a law passed on it.... much like you have to have (i think it's flu shots) to be in school, they have to have this shot to be in school.

either way tho... it doesn't always work... i went from about age 5 all the way up to 16 without getting shots.... and that's when i got put in juvi and i couldn't exactly refuse them... i still went to school though even tho i didn't have my shots...

unless they get more strict on this shot, then they are over the ones you have to have as of now to be in school, it's not going to work like they plan it (where every (girl in this case) HAS to have it to enroll)

sstrand
11-11-2011, 03:14 PM
You may be eligible to participate in a research study. We would like to know about your opinions on and experience with human papillomavirus (HPV) and the HPV vaccines (Gardasil and Cervarix). The study includes a survey an optional telephone interview.

To qualify for this study, you must:
(1) Be female
(2) Be between ages 18 and 26
(3) Live in the United States
(4) Have experienced a ??serious adverse event? (side effect) you believe to be the result of the Gardasil or Cervarix vaccine. This includes:
- Life-threatening conditions
- Hospitalization
- Disability or permanent physical damage
- Birth defects
- Conditions requiring medical treatment or surgery
- Conditions that do not require medical treatment or surgery now but may in the future to avoid one of the above outcomes.

To participate in the survey, visit: HPV Vaccine Survey for Females with Vaccine Side Effects (http://www.surveymonkey.com/HpvGardasilCervarix)

This study is sponsored by the University of Arizona Department of Sociology. Please contact the Principal Investigator, Sarah Strand, at [email protected] for more information.

killerweed420
11-11-2011, 06:43 PM
I wouldn't want mercury injected into me. Thats what they use as a preservative for vaccines. I never had to get vaccines when I was a kid in school. We were jehovah witnesses so we got to opt out. I would recommend parents use the same excuse.