Mothers: Soil or Hydro???

[HighSeekerz]

Should I put my Mothers in soil or hydro?? I otherwise grow in hydro and want my Mothers to grow quickly...

[JackdaWack]

why do u want your mom to grow quickly? soil.

[HighSeekerz]

I want to be able to take clones every month...

[GaGrown]

Keep the gurl in soil. She will produce just as good of a cutting at 1/10th the cost to keep her in a hydro state of mind!

Ga Grown!

[xcrispi]

what do you guys think about keeping a mom in coco coir ?
bluebears really pricked my intrest w/ this stuff . i'm about to embark into the world of cloning and was thinking about putting a mom in a spare waterfarm and use coco coir as medium and just top feed every cpl. days . the bottom res. portion of waterfarm could catch the runoff .
peace guys
crispi

[GaGrown]

Bluebear is the expert in that area!

Ga Grown!

[JackdaWack]

yea i would deff. ask him, i would jsut put it in its own bucket or somethin, i belive he only watered the coco once a day or every other day, it was like soil but has alot of air in the medium. I would stick with soil or soil like coco with alot of airation in the roots with low maintenance. no hydro they grow fast and are high maintenece and over time fluctuate conditions. ahhh i just read ur ful post crisp, um yeah that would work pretty well but the roots grow down into that bottom part dont they, wouldnt u be using alot less coco it would only be in the top half, i would get a nice size bucket, layer the bottom with hydroton, and then put all coco in, make sure it has holes at the bottom obvously, and just time how long it takes to water and have your pump turn off, have it turn on when it gets dry.

[divestoned]

i always do my mothers in soil...its often easier than tryin to keep them pipe'd into the hydro set-up.= low maintanence.

[xcrispi]

yea i would deff. ask him, i would jsut put it in its own bucket or somethin, i belive he only watered the coco once a day or every other day, it was like soil but has alot of air in the medium. I would stick with soil or soil like coco with alot of airation in the roots with low maintenance. no hydro they grow fast and are high maintenece and over time fluctuate conditions. ahhh i just read ur ful post crisp, um yeah that would work pretty well but the roots grow down into that bottom part dont they, wouldnt u be using alot less coco it would only be in the top half, i would get a nice size bucket, layer the bottom with hydroton, and then put all coco in, make sure it has holes at the bottom obvously, and just time how long it takes to water and have your pump turn off, have it turn on when it gets dry.

hey jack ,
i read a portion of bears thread that produced the mondo colas he just posted -n- i think you did too . lol . yeah man - like maybe the bottom 3in. hydroton the rest coir in the top of a waterfarm container . i already have a really tight c-13 cabinet w/ a 250 hps that i need to replace w/ tons of cfls . i want to try to keep the mom plant in limbo . i dont wanna have to be trimmin root sys. -n- takein so many clones to keep the mom smaller . w/ 250 hps i'm afraid it'd grow like hell still ?
one of my past caregivers now a friend for life , has family that have the craziest stuff imaginable jack . he told me today he was bringing me a rooted clone of some stuff that smelled like "mr. clean" i'm prayin to god it's a clone of subcools strain "jacks cleaners" man . can you say new clone mom in coco coir . i'm geeked man .
peace all
your cuz
crispi :S5:

[BlueBear]

I must of hurd my name being called, LOL. Well, if you keep a mom in coco you will probably experience allot of growth so be prepared to take allot of clones. It is easier than hydro, but more work than soil in some parts and this is why. Coco generally needs a nute feeding almost every watering IMO and I suppose you could always set aside some solution from your veging plant aside to water the coco mom with, but for some people this may get old. On the other hand I find that many hydro growers just do this, put a mom in a 3 or 5 gallon pot with some Shultz all purpose potting soil and just water with PH adjusted water and can keep a mom like this for a year. If any defs occur then just use something like clearex to leach the soil. The trade off between this and coco is, in coco you can use smaller pots for bigger moms, but you need to water and feed more, while in soil you need bigger pots, but you just need to water. I think that in coco with moms you could probably get away with watering every couple days and do fine too.
Hope this helps guys/fellow growers.
Adieu

[xcrispi]

thanx bear ,
ears were burnin huh . lol . good - i'm glad .
sounds like it'd be easier going the plain old soil route .
peace to everyone in the bears den
the crispis

[BlueBear]

Thanks Xcrispi and love to you and yours.
Adieu

[deftdrummer]

thats cool you started a thread about this. I myself have just taken clones from our hydro girlies and was pretty decided on doing soil in our little grow chamber with fluourescent lights. Can someone recommend a good pot size just big enough to sustain a small - medium sized mother capable of taking two clones from every 2.5 months or so? That would be very helpful thanks.

[BlueBear]

A 2 liter pot will be fine, but you will need to take cuttings about once a month so the plant does not out grow the pot.
Adieu

[deftdrummer]

Oh really? see that was my other question. I was under the impression that the plant would just stay that size and not be able to grow any further than the pot and make it really manageable. But the thought of taking cuttings every few months or so had crossed my mind.

[stinkyattic]

I get around that by keeping my mothers in soil AND very small. They are actually living in 4.5 inch pots. The plan before I bailed was to keep them there for a few months, and then flower them, retaining a set of clones from each that would become donors themselves. This method avoids soil problems such as salts and rootbound. It's what subcool does too. But you have to be confident in your cloning ability.

[deftdrummer]

ya, somewhere in the back of my mind I was thinking that rather than adding different nutes and trying to go around having a healthy root stock, I would just flower the mothers and then get clones off them right before. By the way I am very confident in my cloning abilities. =)

[HighSeekerz]

Well... Lots of good info. THANKS!

I think I like the coco cubes method best... Quicker growing and I can just water with my veg nutes.

I have never had any luck with indoor soil!!!