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JaggedEdge
02-04-2007, 10:31 PM
I thought it would be fun to list all the jobs we have had. I know I have had some hellish ones.

1. An odd job when I was 14 cutting down and chopping up about 500 trees with my 16 year old brother. I got paid $250 for a week and half worth of work. I than learned to discuss the price before excepting a job.

2. Age 16, bagger at a local grocery store making 5.15/hr.

3. Than at 19 I sold some stocks and had a nice $3,000 for my first year in college.

4. I spent that and got a job teahing little kids science experiments after school making $25 a class (1 hour.) I got fired because the day they sat in on my class I didn't have one experiment work.

5. Worked on the set of Flakes making 0.00/hr as a production assistant.
Flakes (2007) (http://imdb.com/title/tt0462295/)

6. Stocked shleves at Walgreens and ran the cash register making 6.00 hr/

7. Server at a chain Diner making 2.50/hr.

8. Presently a Dish washer at a crappy chain resturant making 8.00/hr with a raise in a few weeks.

So yeah, what crappy ass jobs have all of y'all worked? I think this could be fun, but maybe not.

wholapola
02-04-2007, 10:58 PM
grocery store bagger
car brake manufacturer
Record store clerk, old style, just sold music-The best job
Housekeeper at the Grand Canyon
Window Tinter/car stereo installer, Daytona Beach-2nd best job
UPS
Car parts counterperson
Currently Healthcare worker

gee
02-04-2007, 11:01 PM
been working general labour at a factory since i was 14 and im 16 now. my back is already shot from liftin all those mother fuckin boxes of toilet duct and 12 liter fleecy bottles and random dish detergent

cygnustaxt
02-04-2007, 11:04 PM
worked at a domino's pizza place for 5.15 an hour
worked at a circuit city for 8.00
I worked at this place called joyces seashells. It was a huge warehouse full of all sorts of different seashells and huge pieces of coral. We sold in bulk to souvenir stands and interior decorators all over the us. We had to wash them, pack them, and all sorts of other shit for 10 dollars an hour.
then i worked at a small restaurant as a dishwasher and ended up being a line cook until i left.
Now i work at a cafe in a barnes and noble.

bong_man
02-04-2007, 11:53 PM
Selling xmas trees 5 euro an hour
Delivering bread - 10 euro for 4 hours then i quit lol
Kitchen porter - 9 euro an hour
Office assistant - 0 euro an hour
IT assistant - 10 euro an hour
Tech support - 8 euro an hour
Network Admin - 15 euro per hour
Freelance graphic/web design - Whatever i wanted lol
Programmer - 30,000 a year (did like a week)
Freelance graphic/web design - I like being able to have a spliff and work lol

crunksquirrel
02-05-2007, 12:14 AM
Well, I've worked at a place where they did weddings and parties for about a year and a half for $7.00/hr.

Taco Bell for about two months at the start of last summer with $6/hr.

and over the summer last year i worked with a moving company @ 16 bringin in 10 dollars an hour..
haven't had a job since

Gatekeeper777
02-05-2007, 12:21 AM
worked in a greenhouse
a farm milking cows.
and 3 differant steel mills.

Dave Byrd
02-05-2007, 12:33 AM
Paper boy
Grocery stocker and bag boy
Grocery assistant in produce
Lab assistant
Bouncer/doorman at nightclub
Graduate lab assistant
Office clerk
Medical intern and resident
Practicing cardiologist

Lovely07
02-05-2007, 03:11 AM
Food service at amusement parks
Retail
File Clerk
Nursing

LIP
02-05-2007, 03:17 AM
Pizza Dilivery -Lasted 2 months.

Car Mechanic - Got fired after two weeks for smoking weed, a customer smelt it in their car and complained... i still wonder how they knew what it was... bastards.

Marine Diesel Engineer/ Engineering Manager. From when i quit school till now. And probably going to be doing this for the rest of my life.

higher4hockey
02-05-2007, 03:33 AM
lip, how did you manage to become an engineer by dropping out of school ?
did you go back to school or is that something that doesn't require schooling ?

slipknotpsycho
02-05-2007, 03:37 AM
lip, how did you manage to become an engineer by dropping out of school ?
did you go back to school or is that something that doesn't require schooling ?

he's got a whole thread on it... kind of a long story i dobut he'd wanna repeat... i'll see if i can find it...

here: http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-com-lounge/87861-lip.html

btw, in short, he just got really lucky lol.. he knew the right people to say the least.

as for my jobs, i've worked as a lawn mower twice... i quit because i got tired of the fucker i worked for, standing around doing nothing all day, yet bitching me out if i tired even after a 7 hour day... i had to (excuse the comparison) like an illegal mexican...

worked at johnny carino's for less than a week, quit on sheer principal

worked at sonic for a good while... ended up quitting there too... mostly on principal.... i was doing everyone's job.... they all stood around all day while i ran around the damn place like a chicken with it's head cut off, working grill, dressing the burgers, working fry side, which is where everything else is made, restocking, cleaning up... just fuck that... i quit.

if you haven't noticed, i have a real problem wtih being the only one doing any work.... my principal i won't stand around doing nothing, i work and i work hard.. after so long, it seems everyone takes advantage of this and i become the only worker... unless you wanna pay me their wages as well.. fuck that.

thcbongman
02-05-2007, 03:38 AM
Actor
Camp Counsler
Laborer
Intern (office clerk)
Data Analyst

LIP
02-05-2007, 03:38 AM
lip, how did you manage to become an engineer by dropping out of school ?
did you go back to school or is that something that doesn't require schooling ?


Im too smart for school. LOL... No really, i am.

You know, school doesnt teach you EVERYTHING in life! It taught me fuck all, that's why i quit.

I'd been working with engines all my life, i knew every last part and could build one out of scratch.

My father was friends with a couple who owned a boatyard, and i started work for them. I get paid stupid amounts of money, i enjoy my job and i smoke more weed than the average toker.

I can teach myself better than anyone can teach me.

slipknotpsycho
02-05-2007, 03:43 AM
Im too smart for school. LOL... No really, i am.

You know, school doesnt teach you EVERYTHING in life! It taught me fuck all, that's why i quit.

I'd been working with engines all my life, i knew every last part and could build one out of scratch.

My father was friends with a couple who owned a boatyard, and i started work for them. I get paid stupid amounts of money, i enjoy my job and i smoke more weed than the average toker.

I can teach myself better than anyone can teach me.

i taught myself alot of mechanics when i got my station wagon a few years ago... i just got the repair manual, tools, and figured it out all my own... i learned more in 2 months on that car, then i would have in 2 years in a school designed to teach you such things.

Purple Banana
02-05-2007, 04:11 AM
Random baby-sitting for rich people, that was cool- anywhere from $5-10/hour

Lifeguard for 2 summers, WAY overrated. But kind of fun- $6/hour

Swimming lesson instructor- very time-consuming writing the lessons, and stuff, but the kids were really fun-$8/hour

Nursing assistant currently, making $16/hour

Substitute teacher currently, $55.69/day after taxes. EASY.

Going to be an English teacher, hopefully!

fasterspider
02-05-2007, 02:03 PM
Gas station attendant
Burglar alarm installer
Body work tech
County Park employee
Taxi driver
Factory worker
Landscaper
Mini bus driver
Bicycle mechanic
Auto mechanic
Motorcycle mechanic
Burn out extrordinaire
There are more but notice the last one:stoned:

stinkyattic
02-05-2007, 02:09 PM
OOOH good thread!

In order:

1) Stringed instrument repairperson
2) Farm hand (fucking cucumbers, itchy!)
3) Bartender
4) Substitute teacher
5) Line cook
6) Fisheries observer (Alaskan offshore)
7) Field sampler- water, sediments, fish tissues
8) Lab analyst- for the above
9) Statewide coordinator for an acid rain monitoring program
10) Lab analyst for the above, lol
11) Lab supervisor- analytical chemistry- current
12) NERD

Somewhere along the way I also worked for my BF at the time's landscaping business ... I'm sure there's more I forgot... lol

xxxhazexxx
02-05-2007, 02:16 PM
im a plasterer and i fucking love it every plasterer i know smoks bud ,getting stoned while erning loads of money who whould'nt love it :S5:

LIP
02-05-2007, 02:20 PM
im a plasterer and i fucking love it every plasterer i know smoks bud ,getting stoned while erning loads of money who whould'nt love it :S5:

That's how i look at work. Getting stoned everyday and being paid to do some that you enjoy, that pays enough to live very comfortably with nothing to worry about is the way to live a good life. And live the HIGH life ;)

EmoRebellion
02-05-2007, 02:32 PM
Well my first job was a photographer for a small studio. I did that for about 6 months, then left because it wasnt what I wanted to do.

I got hired for the Geek Squad at a local Best Buy as an in-store tech. They paid for my MCSE and a few other IT certifications. I eventually got promoted to a Special Agent (the guys who drive the bugs) and started making $20/hr. The pay was decent for my age, but the hours were shitty, and I had to work weekends. I loved my job, but I needed something more steady.

I decided that a degree might help me, so I tried taking some classes at the community college for a semester. I couldnt stand being in a classroom again. It seemed like I knew more than almost every damn teacher. I wanted to be out working again.

I got hired on at Kaiser Permanente as an IT Business Consultant. I spent a year there learning the corporate enviroment and getting more certifications. The hours were long, but the pay was decent. I didnt really like the job, but it was really helping my resume. After working several 90 hour weeks, I decided that it was time for me to move on.

At the end of last year I took a job as a Sr. Systems Engineer/Account Executive for an IBM reseller. We sell servers/storage/services to large corporations. I get a decent salary, but I also get commissions on any hardware/services I sell. This job is really turning out to be a dream for me. I work about 15 minutes from home, and sometimes I can even work out of my house. Its a small company, so I have the freedom to do alot of things I like. I can spend half of my day making cold calls, but then I can go in the back and fuck around with a million dollars in hardware for a few hours.

I will make over six figures this year if things keep going this well.

xxxhazexxx
02-05-2007, 02:50 PM
That's how i look at work. Getting stoned everyday and being paid to do some that you enjoy, that pays enough to live very comfortably with nothing to worry about is the way to live a good life. And live the HIGH life ;)

i have it no other way mate:S5: :S5: :S5:

Nochowderforyou
02-05-2007, 04:21 PM
I've had so many jobs I don't know where to start.

1. First job I had was unloading trucks at Wal-Mart when I was 16. It was an awesome crew that made the work actually fun. All young kids and we'd go out to Subway at lunch, then smoke a fat ass bowl on the way back. We had an hour for lunch so we had the time.

2. I then worked at a Pork slaughtering plant. There I worked on the kill floor, removing the eyes, and skin from the face of the pig. It was good money back then, but now you couldn't pay me enough to do that. I moved around the plant a number of times, but stabbing the severed pig head on the spike was by far the worst. It was like something out of a hooror movie. It was fucked up man.

3. I then worked a grocery store in the produce section cutting lettuce and crap. It sucked and only lasted a few weeks.

4. I then worked as a security guard at the pork slaughtering house I once worked at. That lasted 2 nights, both 12hr shifts. One of the most boring jobs i ever worked. I just sat there, staring at a computer screen in this little shack. 12hrs felt like days.

5. I then worked as a motel porter. I got fired because this fat ass rig pig got in my face because I brought him the wrong salad dressing. :rolleyes: He told me off, spitting in my face, so I told him off as well. The next day I got a written warning, then a few days later, I come into work, and they fire me. I hated my boss as she was a HUGE bitch. I left my sweater there for like 2 days once, and I see her one day walking out with it on. I stop her and say, "I think you're wearing my sweater" in front of some rig pigs. She said, "thanks for embarrasing me by the way. When things are in that room for a week, I take them to the lost and found." I then told her I didn't know the lost and found was on her body and at her home, and that my sweater was there for only 2 days, so yeah...I got fired for more than 1 reason I guess. :p

6. I worked as a janitor at the college. It was a big college and way too quiet.

7. I then worked at an RV production plant in the wood mill. This prick job almost cut my finger off with the tale saw and I lost it on him. They laid my off from that job.

8. I then worked as an order picker for a distribustion warehouse. I didn't get along with a co-worker as he was into Hitler and always spit racial slurs about immigrants. I immigrated from Hooland, so you can where we would clash.

9. I then as a chef at a bar and grill. That was a wicked job as all we did was get stoned and munch out an badass food, but it was too stressful and was taking a toll on me. That job put me off kitchen work for the rest of my life.

10. I then worked in a rock yard as a yard person. I helped people load and unload landscaping products by hand or using this tractor lift. I also used a bucket loader to load people up witj various gravels. It was a good job and a great workout, but it was only seasonal.

And right now I am just doing snow removal with this little tractor thing. It's only for the winter, but in the spring, I'm going back to college to enter the Trades.

There have been a few other jobs inbetween that I'm sure i forgot, but who cares. :p

EmoRebellion
02-05-2007, 05:16 PM
Wow.. You have dont alot of random shit..

pabloescobar209
02-05-2007, 06:00 PM
dishwasher at 6.75/hr
landscaper at 8.00/hr
a different dish washing job at 9.00/hr
fedex at 9.75/hr
now I remodel bathrooms, and kitchens making 15.00/hr

az666
02-05-2007, 06:02 PM
I have had quite a few jobs really...nothing for longer than 2 consecutive years though...

Started in Mc Donalds
Then worked in a Surf Shop
Newsagents
B&Q (DIY shop)
Various nursery and primary schools around the island (teaching assistant)
Currently at a music shop selling instruments and sheet music.

Skrappie
02-05-2007, 06:58 PM
in order, skipping a few im sure

in highschool.

babysitter
server
warehouse cleaner
server

army as 52/d

came back home

server
pizza dude
jimmy johns driver dude

went to college

baker

I'm about to make a job (and school shift) we'll see where that will take me, more likely skilled labor again. I want my damn degree so i can break into the professional world.

TallulahGreen
02-05-2007, 06:59 PM
I am 21 years old and held a few jobs..

Starting when I was 16 years old I worked at burger king....then after that I worked at this place called patriot package where I basically just typed shit and stuff...

...then I worked at this place called alternative healing arts as an office assistant...

I then worked at a restaurant as a barista/server..

...I then started to work at a natural/organic community food cooperative in the deli...
.

....and have now transferred to the Juice Bar.

:)

TallulahGreen
02-05-2007, 07:01 PM
oh...and I make 10$ an hour...serving organic juice and espresso and chai.
:)

higher4hockey
02-05-2007, 07:27 PM
i started working when i was 14. first job was picking blue berries up the road from where i grew up.

then : grocery store in my hometown
grocery store (night manager) college town
perkins employee (worst job ever)
factory worker.

now i work for the gov't. i love what i do.

JaggedEdge
02-06-2007, 12:21 AM
Thanks to everyone who has shared. A lot of you have very diverse work experience. It is very interessting. I have also gotten some ideas for my next job... I can't wash dishes much longer or I may hit one of my managers.

thebeancounter41
02-06-2007, 06:49 AM
Dishwasher....busboy....waiter....prep cook...line cook...half dozen sales jobs....telemarketing for about 3 months...Limo driver...cab driver...pizza delivery for dominos and pizza hut...ice cream man....inventory taker for Walmart.Currently handling online sales for a an established company.

deftdrummer
02-06-2007, 07:21 AM
In order from highschool till now:

1) mcdonalds (worked all aspects, management, toilet cleaning etc. shit job)
2) little ceasars pizza station inside a k-mart (actually pretty cool ate free all the time got paid shitty
3) admissions clerk & PBX operator at an adventist hospital (kinda weird in a repressive sort of way)
4) ER registration clerk + outpatient clinic for a different out of town hospital
5) emergency dispatcher for ambulances and air ambulance at the same hospital (currently)

birdgirl73
02-06-2007, 02:55 PM
I love this thread! I just noticed my husband answered it earlier. So I'll do the same. Here they are, pretty much in order:

Paper route
Babysitter
Lifeguard at municipal swimming pool
Waitress at Mexican restaurant
Swimming instructor and lifeguard trainer at municipal swimming pool
Hostess/cashier at restaurant
Waitress and fill-in bartender at a pub
Emergency medical technician at a state hospital
Paramedic for a fire department
Paid section editor's position on college newspaper
Store clerk at a glasses/sunglasses store
Feature reporter/stringer for small local papers
High school English and journalism teacher
News and features reporter for large metropolitan paper
Marketing-advertising copywriter for a large technology corporation
Senior executive speechwriter for large technology corporation
Medical student (I'm unpaid but am receiving an allowance from money we saved when I was working full-time)

Being a mother is a huge job, albeit an unpaid one, and I've done that for the last 21 years, too, counting pregnancy.

PatrickHenry
02-06-2007, 03:07 PM
Great thread! I don't want to talk about my current position for privacy reasons, but when I was a kid I was a grocery bagger and a department store loading dock worker! :)

Let me tell you, those first jobs suck!!

Interesting to see a medical doctor on here (a cardiologist at that)! I'm impressed!

birdgirl73
02-06-2007, 03:56 PM
Interesting to see a medical doctor on here (a cardiologist at that)! I'm impressed!
That's my husband, and he's a great guy and mostly joined because of me. He's at work right now, but he'd feel it important to note that he's not a cannabis user but instead an advocate. I'm the same way. We got interested in the topic last year when my older sister was going through chemotherapy for cancer. He's a strong believer in its legatlization for medical use, as am I, but is convinced smoked cannabis isn't good for heart health.

PatrickHenry
02-06-2007, 04:10 PM
That's my husband, and he's a great guy and mostly joined because of me. He's at work right now, but he'd feel it important to note that he's not a cannabis user but instead an advocate. I'm the same way. We got interested in the topic last year when my older sister was going through chemotherapy for cancer. He's a strong believer in its legatlization for medical use, as am I, but is convinced smoked cannabis isn't good for heart health.

That's great, I love to hear about educated folks joining the movement. I'm working on another kind of doctorate, a juris doctorate. ;)

I vaporize!

birdgirl73
02-06-2007, 04:45 PM
Good for you! I earned a J.D., too, believe it or not. Between my teaching and writing days. But the truth was it was simply another form of grad school for me after all was said and done. I had absolutely no interest in practicing law and seemed to lack the ability to bully in the necessary way. The whole legal world really intimidated me. I graduated (SMU). Sat for the bar. Never practiced a day in my life. Never looked back. What I've always really been interested in is medicine. I might have made an OK judge or mediator. The one thing it did come in handy for was in writing when dealing with intellectual property/copyright matters.

When do you graduate??? What sort of law do you plan to practice? Always glad to see other educated folks here, too. We have many of those, and it can't help but be beneficial to this cause. Glad to hear you take the healthy vape route, too!

Dutch Pimp
02-06-2007, 05:31 PM
combat medic-'67-'69
student-'70-'74..(I wanted to be a teacher)
foundry supervisor-'74-'07..(7 different places, I am a teacher of this art)

PatrickHenry
02-06-2007, 07:43 PM
Good for you! I earned a J.D., too, believe it or not. Between my teaching and writing days. But the truth was it was simply another form of grad school for me after all was said and done. I had absolutely no interest in practicing law and seemed to lack the ability to bully in the necessary way. The whole legal world really intimidated me. I graduated (SMU). Sat for the bar. Never practiced a day in my life. Never looked back. What I've always really been interested in is medicine. I might have made an OK judge or mediator. The one thing it did come in handy for was in writing when dealing with intellectual property/copyright matters.

When do you graduate??? What sort of law do you plan to practice? Always glad to see other educated folks here, too. We have many of those, and it can't help but be beneficial to this cause. Glad to hear you take the healthy vape route, too!

I'm a 1L. I'd really like to become a public defender but I'm not sure how that will pan out. Those positions are highly coveted despite the low pay and long hours.

Other than that, I'm not really sure. I really don't want to do the Big Law thing, but am more interested in providing affordable legal services to people who really need it.

After 3 years of hell I'm surprised you didn't have any desire to practice!

stinkyattic
02-06-2007, 07:45 PM
I'm a 1L. I'd really like to become a public defender but I'm not sure how that will pan out. Those positions are highly coveted despite the low pay and long hours. !
My attorney spent 10 years as a public defender in NYC. I respect that a lot. He's a really down to earth and dedicated guy.

lagstronaut
02-06-2007, 09:57 PM
Actor
Camp Counsler
Laborer
Intern (office clerk)
Data Analyst

Hey, how do you like being a Data Analyst? This September I'm hoping to go to RCC in Toronto to get both a Diploma and Degree in "Bachelor of Technology: Computer Information Systems" and I've heard that education can lead to a job as a data analyst.

Is it like the guys on Office Space who hate their job? Is it challenging? Rewarding (doubt it but worth a shot haha)? Good money? Does this job limit your creativity? Is there much freedom involved?

Thanks :D

Demeter
02-07-2007, 04:02 AM
1. I worked in a urologist's office when I was 16, prepped patients, autoclaved samples etc.

2. Then I worked for Sheraton- desk clerk and reservationist.

3. Waitress, fine dining and catering (made drinks for Liza M and Jimmy Stewart!)

4. Modeling, acting in films, a little dancing- I was even a magician's assistant for a month in Tokyo!

5. Went back to college for 7 years(more waitressing, and retail, makeup artist) got two bach degrees and an MFA.

6. College teacher

7. Amateur gardener:D

Hope to take a sabbatical one day to write a book or screenplay
Hope to finally, eventually, be a mom

Skink
02-07-2007, 05:27 AM
put together Sunday papers in a luchonette...
Short order cook...
Nursery Garden center worker...
Christmas Tree sales/Grave spray wreath assembly and decorater Skink can make a pretty Bow...
Penny arcade attendant...
night shelf stocker in a super market...
Plumber...
small engine mechanic...
Parts counter...
Cashier in a Hardware store...
Auto Mechanic...
Electrician Helper...
Landscaper...
Handyman...
Auto body supply delivery,,,got fired there cause the boss found my bong in the van,,,LOLz...

geonagual
02-07-2007, 05:35 AM
start from the beginning

Worked with my dad as a painter
Mcdonalds
Army Infantryman
Pretzel Vendor in downtown Boston
National Guard Infantryman
Marine Corps Infantryman
merchandiser/sales Pepsi cola
Sales 7up
Auto sales
sales Frito Lay
Loan Officer
caregiver
business owner
and my current stupid ass job. I gotta get off my ass and find a new one.

yoda
02-07-2007, 06:05 AM
at 14, did pretty much everything but deliver at a chinese restaurant($5.25/hr)

then pushed carts at a grocery store(Giant, pushed carts there twice) - $5.50/hr

worked as a stocker for NAPA for a few months, got fired cause my boss heard me say i wanted to quit($7.25/hr)

a few days after graduating high school, worked for my dad's landscaping company during the summer($8/hr)

went back to pushing carts($6/hr)

stopped going to school last fall(05), went back to landscaping from june-dec($10/hr)

went abck to the same store i always worked at, did HBC inside($6.60/hr)

been working at a different grocery store now for 7 months, stock shelves($9/hr)

i like my current job. got screwed over getting hours cause they hired a lot of people, but a few quit so they are coming to me. so ill be working enough while going to school. my plan is to just kinda stick around there and work my way up, hopefully becoming a manager.

benagain
02-07-2007, 03:40 PM
All of my jobs in order of 1st to most recent with ages:

15: Landscaping/yardword/tree jobs

16: Stock Boy at Bi-Lo (Grocery store)

17: Stock Boy at K-Mart

18: Temp at a tax software co working support and converted to full time employee

23: Tried a short ride as a DHL driver

24: Went back to working CSR support for another company but this time out of my house.

I still do CSR work and tech support, but I've taken in some other responsibilities and do some freelance odds and ends stuff (xbox mods etc..)

delusionsofNORMALity
02-07-2007, 04:06 PM
a puppet
a pauper
a pirate
a poet
a pawn


and

a king



but really-


ceramics caster/kiln operator
construction laborer
truck driver
cab driver
carpenter
plumber
electrician
landscaper
general construction superintendent

these days i run a little remodel business (can't beat working for yourself)


in addition there is a short list of occupations that one really shouldn't advertise on an open forum such as this.

buddymyfriend
02-07-2007, 09:55 PM
I've been:

* Shelf stacker at local Supermarket
* A Baker & Confectionist
* A Grounds Assistant at a local shooting range
* A New & Used Car Sales Consultant
* A Customer Service Agent for a low budget airline (Easyjet)
* Worked as a Credit Control Agent, collecting arrears for a communication
company (NTL:Telewest)
* A PVC Window Fitter
* Warehouse work for a clothing factory
* Aircraft Cleaner
* Shop Assistant for local convienience store
* In the business of 'supply & demand' back in the hay day

Duke420
02-09-2007, 12:31 AM
bucked hay all through highschool. eek
US ARmy combat engineer for several years.
currently a contractor building custom homes (400k average)
Looks like this year I'll be working many commercial projects.

I enjoy the contracting, but it tends to consume alot of time,
but the knowledge is priceless.