Matanuska Thunderfuck

[SaanenGoats]

Hey guys,

I noticed that Dr. Greenthumb has a new seed in stock, Matanuska Thunderfuck. I've heard a lot about it, and I'm wondering if it's possible that he actually has it, and whether it is worth the price. (C$265 for 10). Does anyone know anything about this seed, or have any comments on the value of these seeds??

[Gatekeeper777]

i know that for C$265 it better be some damn good area 51 shit, thats just plain hella-stupid.
WOW, i am in the wrong business.

[bong_man]

10 seeds for $265!!!! that wud have to be some mystial bud!

[the yeag]

well the price is right for quality seeds.. matanuska thunderfuck, the originol strain was clone only. That was in 1970 something. Today fine genetics still come from the northland. Seeds that hold traits of the originol mtf are alaska thunder, yukon gold, matanuska tundra. I would trust another company that sells this strain it is called SAGARMATHA seeds. I highly doubt the doc has been holding on to clones for thirty years , or anyone for that matter. Doc greenthumb does claim his seeds are from the originol strain, but i call bulshit. Try trading seeds to one of our alaskan members.

[the yeag]

$$$$=quality genetics. $=noob dirt weed and hermies. go buy some shitty seeds that sell for 30 bucks for ten...good luck you will need it, or your easily satisfied.

[Scarlet Sky]

YEAG HELP!!! MAY THE PONTIFF HAVE MERCY ON MY SOUL!!!

i have GOT to find yukon gold if it is still in existence... i can't find it anywhere!

please help me track it down if you can... i'll love you forever :D

Sky :abduct:

trades are doable...

[the yeag]

Email B at Hempdepot.ca he will hook ya up. I have found they will get you about anything.

[Scarlet Sky]

thank you thank you thank you!!! oh, i hope i can get a hold on the gold; haven't seen it or heard about it in over ten years... soo sweet and honeyish, with a knockdown mellow... it took me thirty minutes to realize i was obliterated! good stuff :D

thanx again yeag, and hey, i'd realy like to talk to you; i've been trying to get you to email me for months now...

if you have time, please drop me a line babyjesslockhart@yahoo

love, Sky :abduct:

[the yeag]

will do..if hemp depot does not have it go with sagmartha seeds. i hear they have sweet ass genetics. they have something real similar to what you want.

[freewheelinfrank]

I've never tried Matanuska, but most reports I've read, indicate it's potency is disappointing, (doesn't live up to it's reputation) - ???

[xcrispi]

Email B at Hempdepot.ca he will hook ya up. I have found they will get you about anything.

hell yeah yeag ,
Bel. there at H/D rocks man .
crispi :S5:

[the yeag]

I've never tried Matanuska, but most reports I've read, indicate it's potency is disappointing, (doesn't live up to it's reputation) - ???


Well like you said n0o0b..you have never tried it:S4: don't shit on the last frontier:jointsmile:

[spankey]

I've never tried Matanuska, but most reports I've read, indicate it's potency is disappointing, (doesn't live up to it's reputation) - ???

i got the chance to smoke it in the very early 80's ya if it was real mtf it would be worth the money if you have the skill to grow the monster plant. it is the type of plant that is tough for even kbs growers. BUT THE STRAIN IS DEAD. so do not waist your money.

[stinkyattic]

matanuska thunderfuck, the originol strain was clone only. That was in 1970 something. Today fine genetics still come from the northland. Seeds that hold traits of the originol mtf are alaska thunder, yukon gold, matanuska tundra......
. Try trading seeds to one of our alaskan members.

Fine fine genetics are still kicking around up there.
I have personally grown and can vouch for a couple of the surviving Alaskan local lines, gifted to me by 2 friends.
One MTF-derived line was by FAR the burliest plant I have ever seen, with dense buds and a fine aroma/flavor to boot. When I broke down my grow it was one of the few strains that I decided to keep in mother form in a safe location. Thanks Sweet Daddy D :D

Yeag knows his shit re: the Thunderfucks.

[Rolla Fatty]

I have some of these going right now. I'll let you know how it works out.

[Botanyx]

cut my mtf down two weeks ago. very dreemy high that lasts and lasts. to me it tastes like columbian from back in the 70's. didnt get a huge yield indoors but i think i'll try it outdoors

[3sixty]

Got this photo from drgreenthumb.com I think it is the real thing but would apprecaite some input from the oldtimers. you have to double click it to see it at a decent size

[canna-bliss]

it supposed to be great sativa that tastes like red grapes from alaska. if tthe seeds really are Alaskan Matanuska Thunderfuck. then its probably worth it

[ericwt]

Got this photo from drgreenthumb.com I think it is the real thing but would apprecaite some input from the oldtimers. you have to double click it to see it at a decent size

That looks like the real thing:D

[spankey]

Got this photo from drgreenthumb.com I think it is the real thing but would apprecaite some input from the oldtimers. you have to double click it to see it at a decent size

it looks close so it is probably a hybrid. the original strain is gone but there are some very good hybreds of it. it was grown by clones for so long that males were not prodused anymore. a friend of mine used to live in matinuska valley and grew it out doors. his trees got to about 8' with huge buds.

they may not be true trhunderfuck but i bet it is almost as good!!
looks very tasty!! but remember the pure strain is dead. that does not mean it is not close. and if it is a true strain when you grow it i recomend keeping your best male and continue the strain those seeds could make you some bank locally. i am sure friends and others you know will pay through the nose to buy those seeds from you and probable half the people here would also. i know i would. to me it would be like finding bigfoot :rastasmoke:

[GraziLovesMary]

The original Matanuska Thunderfuck from the 60s and 70s was an Indica out of necissity due to the fact that it grew wild outdoors in the Matanuska Valley. The 18-22 hours of daylight during the growing season, the perfect soil conditions in the valley, and the hardiness of that particular Indica strain ensured that it evolved into the REAL reason we should be thanking Seward for buying AK from the Russians for 1.6 Billion dollars.

Anybody that heard anything about MTF and dissappointment in the same paragraph heard wrong or heard from the wrong source. The strain has produced essentially the most THC-potent marijuana in existence, with some crops having a recorded 32% THC level. And that is from decades-old data.

Like previously mentioned, MTF is essentially non-existant in its original form as it was clone only, but Sagarmatha got ahold of some clones years ago and cross-bred MTF with a few different breeds and now sells seeds for Matanuska Tundra, Matanuska Mist, and Matanuska Mint among others. My favorite out of these would be Matanuska Mist by far.

I had the pleasure about 8 years ago of trying some MTF from an old friend of mine that has a cabin in the valley and has been cloning the strain and a few others for close to 35 years now. The bud was so dense with crystals but instead of looking snow white it looked golden... sparkly golden with a deep green hue somewhere in the center. And seeing as how its outdoor grown and the temp drops at the end of the growing season, a few of the leaves were usually a deep purple. I cant even describe the smell... much too long ago but I can still almost remember it. Anywhoo me, another friend and this old man smoked a relatively small joint he had rolled the day before.

I literally tripped off THC. No shitting.. I was seeing colors and trails and trust me, it wasnt laced. The only time I ever got higher off THC than that was when my friend brought some golden hash back from Amsterdam with like a 81% THC content.

Its not even so much the high THC content in MTF that gets ya but the surplus of CBD. Being an Indica it has much higher levels of Cannabinidiol than a sativa would, but it has way higher levels than about any other plant. As most of you know, CBD is what gives you the body high as well as many of the medical benefits enjoyed by people who smoke it medicinally.

Yukon Gold is another Alaskan native strain mainly from SE Alaska such as Kodiak island, and it is fuckin potent as hell also. Anything from Kodiak island is abnormally humongous due to the magnanimous surplus of natural resources present on the island. The grizzlies there get 15 feet tall... dwarfing polar bears but as they are a sub-species and not an individual species polar bears retain the title of largest bear. I may be rambling...

[stinkyattic]

Wow, what a fantastic post! Welcome to the site.

[tevnig]

2-3 pounds a plant.what lol

[GraziLovesMary]

Wow, what a fantastic post! Welcome to the site.

oh why gracias amiga!

[the yeag]

oh why gracias amiga!



very nice post man...but i must say there were too errors...kodiak is in south centrel ak not southeast, which would be by the capital. kodiak browns are lare, i have hunted there many times. the largest kodiak grizzly ever taken was not 15' tall. due to over hunting the mighty kodiak rarely grows larger than 10' today.:jointsmile:

[GraziLovesMary]

very nice post man...but i must say there were too errors...kodiak is in south centrel ak not southeast, which would be by the capital. kodiak browns are lare, i have hunted there many times. the largest kodiak grizzly ever taken was not 15' tall. due to over hunting the mighty kodiak rarely grows larger than 10' today.:jointsmile:

Lol I lived in Eagle River which is 20 mins north of Anchorage so South Central and Southeast are all the same to me... rainy, miserable, secluded and filled with religious fundamentalist zealots. The largest kodiak brown bear taken was most definitely 15 feet and I will do my best to get the article for you. I must take my turn as correcter and point out that you mention kodiak browns and kodiak grizzlys when they are brown bears not grizzlys as you well know, having hunted them.

[the yeag]

damn dude i was not busting balls just representing......the only differance between a grizzly and a brown is the location they live in meaning interior or coastal....i am the real deal.

[GraziLovesMary]

Haha sall good I was just playin devils advocate and youre absolutely right. Grizzly bears are just a subspecies (Ursus arctos horribilis) of brown bear.. its the name given to brown bears of North America basically. An oddity of biological sciences that managed to elude me all these years lol. And as the Kodiak brown is another subspecies (Ursus arctos middendorffi) they are all essentially the same thing.

My bad part two: I am apparantly full of shit on the 15 ft aspect as well. Whoops. They have been known to reach heights of 13 ft according to a couple sources, but like you said most are around 10. There are only like 387 bear permits issued every year for Kodiak Island. They keep their numbers in strict control and according to their official fish and game website, bear population is healthy.

My apologies for confronting you, oh Pontiff of Pot...

[bagOdirt]

Howdy folks,i,m new to this site, i came looking about info concerning DrGreenthumbs Thunderfuck.

i,m a senior citizen, only place ive lived besides Alaska was Vietnam,which when i returned i became a grower with the VN seeds whicn didn't seem to want to bud under 24/7 sunshine. LOL

anyway myself and most of my life long friends still burn a lil and i personally have been looking for MTF since forever, a few folks say they have or think they have smoked it in the distant past.

i had a lady friend who when too young partied with the Professor at the Dept of Ag, UOA fairbanks who created the strain. but that was decades ago..she said it was supposed to be a viable Afgan Hashplant seed found in a chunk of hash x mesmecon(sp) Mex, a way ahead of its time NYCD type cross

or not,

after all,she was high and he was horny,he might have told her underage sweet ass anything LOL

The Doc advertizes Bubba Kush,but he used to list it as his Bubblegum x Hindu Kush cross (you can aquire both these strains any day of the week for a lot less then $300) and breed your own BK.

so i was wondering if his MTF his own creation too. he mentions Columbian flavor?? no Columbo in MTF, supposedly

any help here would be great cause i,ve wanted MTF for over 30yrs

the M Thunder and M Tundra, that are available never saw the light of day in Alaska.

Kodiak Gold is a great strain, but its lineage is questioned too. BUT some phenos of KG never hardly ripen by the looks of their white hairs, you just harvest the oldest buds and let it keeps growing, she keeps making white hairs for ever? just like MTF is reported to do??? :-)

anyway stay safe, bagOdirt aka Goldking

PS don't believe anything i say,my brain is old and fried and my memory is lost too.
I bagged a 7'8" grizzy bear a long time ago in the Alaska Range with a double bbl 12 gauge, it was coming in my cabins window.

it was messed up,a trappers wolf snare was tighten around his neck and cut under the skin and into the neck and healed over as it tightened, the dia of the snare when removed was about a measly 5", poor poor suffering 'King of the Forest'. normally i respect and leave them ( and everything else) alone.

[GraziLovesMary]

Howdy folks,i,m new to this site, i came looking about info concerning DrGreenthumbs Thunderfuck.

i,m a senior citizen, only place ive lived besides Alaska was Vietnam,which when i returned i became a grower with the VN seeds whicn didn't seem to want to bud under 24/7 sunshine. LOL

anyway myself and most of my life long friends still burn a lil and i personally have been looking for MTF since forever, a few folks say they have or think they have smoked it in the distant past.

i had a lady friend who when too young partied with the Professor at the Dept of Ag, UOA fairbanks who created the strain. but that was decades ago..she said it was supposed to be a viable Afgan Hashplant seed found in a chunk of hash x mesmecon(sp) Mex, a way ahead of its time NYCD type cross

or not,

after all,she was high and he was horny,he might have told her underage sweet ass anything LOL

The Doc advertizes Bubba Kush,but he used to list it as his Bubblegum x Hindu Kush cross (you can aquire both these strains any day of the week for a lot less then $300) and breed your own BK.

so i was wondering if his MTF his own creation too. he mentions Columbian flavor?? no Columbo in MTF, supposedly

any help here would be great cause i,ve wanted MTF for over 30yrs

the M Thunder and M Tundra, that are available never saw the light of day in Alaska.

Kodiak Gold is a great strain, but its lineage is questioned too. BUT some phenos of KG never hardly ripen by the looks of their white hairs, you just harvest the oldest buds and let it keeps growing, she keeps making white hairs for ever? just like MTF is reported to do??? :-)

anyway stay safe, bagOdirt aka Goldking

PS don't believe anything i say,my brain is old and fried and my memory is lost too.
I bagged a 7'8" grizzy bear a long time ago in the Alaska Range with a double bbl 12 gauge, it was coming in my cabins window.

it was messed up,a trappers wolf snare was tighten around his neck and cut under the skin and into the neck and healed over as it tightened, the dia of the snare when removed was about a measly 5", poor poor suffering 'King of the Forest'. normally i respect and leave them ( and everything else) alone.

I cant really say for certain, as the strain is much older than I am, but from everything I have heard, read and seen, I would say that nobody but the motherlandAK created MTF. There truly are trappers that live in and near the valley that still clone, although I havent been up there since early 2001. I plan on going back to visit very soon and will do the best I can to dig up some ancient artifacts. If you truly want to find the closest thing to the legendary strain that you can find, I would recommend going to the valley yourself and doing some investigating.

[bagOdirt]

who the heck is MotherlandAK, i never heard of that breeder,in the past or today.

if your inplying MVTF is a Wild indigenous Alaskan strain. hehehe Never happened buddy, there ain't no Wild Ak strains, they would either freeze in the winter, or in the interior with 24/7 sunlight,the females don't reproduce.

besides, there has never been any dispute that MVTF is not a man made creation. of course its not a wild strain. LOL

besides MVTF is a alledged very hardy robust, big ass bush, any wild artic strain would be a hemp like lil ruderalis like in Russia/Siberia. and they ain't worth a poop!

anyway if you can find some in the Valley please let me know,i,ve been looking for 30+yrs, in the Valley,in the hills and in the flat lands, streets shops and bar's too .

best of luck in your quest.

stay warm GK

[stinkyattic]

GK? lol... those initials are bad luck around these parts!

Are you the same bag o dirt from marihemp? Nice to see you over here.

Very true re: Wild arctic strains... MTF is certainly not one of them. Anyway good luck finding those clones and/or beans. I hate to state the truly obvious but grow out enough Alaskan Hippie Weed bagseed and eventually you will run across something with enough MTF traits to hold on to. That's a guarantee! :D

[AsianStoner420]

Holyshit this thread is getting into the weed strains history:smokin:

[bagOdirt]

stinky, i sure hope your joking about me GK being bad luck, here or anywhere LOL if not explain please :-)

if MVTF was a wild Ak strain, i guess the reason no one includeing the DEA and the dept. of Agriculture heard about it is because Sasquash ate all the tender sprouts in the spring of 72.

anyone hear of a wild strain in AK or even the northern half of canada?? i know theres wild hemp in wash/oregon(i was told that anyway) and if you shake a big ripe Hybrid/killa male plant in the hemp patch you make 1/2 hemp strains LOL which will spread and multiply and enhance the quality of all the hemp seeds the birds and rodents eat.

they will thank you in the after life

stay warm GK

[stinkyattic]

GK = Garden Knowm, who was banned, returned under another name, and was rebanned, and returned, and .... the cycle has been continuing, with the most recent reappearance of which I am personally aware having been about 3 weeks ago. lol don't worry though! The 'real' Knowm would know better than to add his initials, anyhow I remember ya from the other site!

[bagOdirt]

thanks Stinky, i was banned several times from merihemp for argueing with the same troll/leo about every day.. he would post crap like "the Seedbanks work with leo to stay in business" and i,ll ask him to keep his dilusions to himself, but he was tight with(in LOL) KK so KK banned me, the members got me back, he banned me again,for the same reasons, then banned me again..

anyway i,m not Garden Known

thanks again, don't you hang at Merihemp #2? i got a buddy-ette there that grows my gear etc but i can't access it?? my 2 names are on file but i can't access, and my e-mail addys all of them are being used(by me) so i can't even rejoin under another name.. and the admin can't fix it??

stay safe GK so who;s got some MVTF anyway????

[stinkyattic]

lol theres a lot of seedbank related bs over ther from what i remember... havent really been active there is a LONG time... the last time i was on, that slef-proclaimed 'breeder' who was slingin' unauthorized soma f2s was finally getting exposed as a fraud...

ive got a version of MTF from the Kenai not bad at all .. and something else alaskan from bluebear... i want to fiddle around with them as breeding stock

[Trivium]

Hey everyone. I myself am from the yukon, and I boarder alaska. I have tryed both alaskan thunderfuck and yukon gold. In my opinion both decently good strains. If you're looking for some of these seeds I can help you out. I know quite a few local growers that store seeds and sell them through town. Post back and let me know if any of you are intrested in a trade.

[katyowns]

This post brings me back.

I was living in Juneau, Alaska the 1st time I ever smoked weed and got high from it. It's where my marijuana usage started. I was told the strain was called Alaskan Thunderfuck, and I never knew it was such a prolific strain!

It's some of the best weed I've EVER smoked.

[the yeag]

Hey everyone. I myself am from the yukon, and I boarder alaska. I have tryed both alaskan thunderfuck and yukon gold. In my opinion both decently good strains. If you're looking for some of these seeds I can help you out. I know quite a few local growers that store seeds and sell them through town. Post back and let me know if any of you are intrested in a trade.



....sounds fishy. no one has a plentiful stock of the real deal...well almost no one:jointsmile:

[GraziLovesMary]

It does sound fishy.

[the yeag]

It does sound fishy.


Almost as fishy as hearing that cannabis grows wild in alaska...specificly in the valley...that is some funny shit....funny but imposible. marijuana can be grown outdoors in ak but perlite is found mixed in with the soil. last time i checked mother nature could not do that on her own:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

I wanted to post up some pics of a Kenai version of the MTF that was a gift from my man.
This is a great plant and takes a shitload of abuse.
I got 1/2" roots in 6 days on a set of clones taken in early flower off the big girl in the pic
The 2nd pic is a bunch of perky cuts almost ready to plant out
3rd pic is a small Yeag's MTF that I am growing diagonally- the ridiculously tight internodes make topping kind of a pain because the side shoots result in an overly-dense bush, so going diagonal or even sideways is a good fix
4th pic is the big flowering female, about 2-3 weeks in. She has VERY stiff branches and will not need help holding up her buds.
Note the damage to some lower leaves- that is left over from a bout with coco fibre problems that actually killed a couple plants outright. This girl can take some serious shit. It makes me wonder whether Alaskans are a bit more sadistic than other gardeners...

[Anastasia]

Doctor Greenthumb has gotten good reviews for some of his strains but I would think twice about trying his Matanuska Thunderfuck. I ordered a pack of seeds and for one they took a month to get to me. Then after trying to germinate the seeds for 2 weeks, only 2 of them germinated. I wrote to Doc about it and he said send the seeds back and heâ??ll replace them. I thought it was odd that he wanted the bad seeds but I sent them back to him. I waited a month and no replacements came. I wrote to Doc again and he claimed that he didnâ??t get the seeds so Iâ??m screwed. So Iâ??m out $240. Iâ??ll never order from Doc again and instead Iâ??ll try Sagâ??s Matanuska Tundra. Itâ??s a lot cheaper and has gotten good reviews. :thumbsup:

[Dr.Phil]

Well Goalllly Ana,

Ma father always use to say, "You can give a poacher an egg, but it's better when it's fried."

I'd be opening myself a can of real Texan whip-ass on the doctors brown eye in an effort to turn it Blue.

I've had too many patients complaining to me lately about the exact same thing. Most common ailments are:

- I never received anything
- I ordered an indica strain and recieved a sativa of sorts
- They arrived crushed, and he doesn't wanna replace them
- They grew like sick dogs
- They yielded less than a hemp plant, with about as much potency too.


So the only cure I could provide them and you Ana, is to order from places like Doc.Chronic, PlanetSkunk, Hemcy, and for the lesser well healed, Nirvana Direct.

If symptoms persist, let me know.


...after the break, we have a scyitzohypocondriak with a bad bout of diahrea that's making thier hemeroids sizzle after they made a purchase at Dr.Greenthumbs in Canada...stay tuned...

[Anastasia]

Thanks Dr. Phil, I wish I would have heard of these bad reports before I ordered from Doc Greenthumb. I read a few good reviews and thought he was a good place to order seeds from. I noticed no other seed bank carries Docâ??s seeds and that makes me think itâ??s because heâ??s a bad guy to deal with.
I agree with you about Doc Chronic, Iâ??ve ordered seeds from many times and always gotten excellent service. Iâ??ve heard good things about Hemcy and PlanetSkunk too.

[unlockit]

bubba kush is 300 for 10 seeds from the dr.

[FrankWills]

Hi guys,

Just to let you know, Anastasia is a good friend of mine and is making a legidimate complaint. It's not someome who has an old beef with the doc over another matter and it's not someone from another seedbank trolling. Fact is Anastasia was a very well known and highly respected member of the Overgrow community but went under another name there that they prefer not to openly mention for security purposes pertaining to the OG bust.

I was the one who suggest she try the Doc and am now left feeling like an idiot for doing so. Doubly so given the fact that I have researched into the true MTF even further since suggesting it to her and now realise that the one the Doc has is about as close to the original MTF as Afghani#1 or Sk#1 is. It can't be the real thing becasue of the aroma/bouquet that the Doc describes.

Wikipedia are a mob that employs the services of highly trained staff and peronel in doing thorough research into anything they incude in the contents. For them to incude anything in their 'encyclodediac' content it has been proven to be 100% reliable and truthful before they will deem it worthy of publishing.

They has an entry in it recarding the legendary MTF cannabis strain which I've found out they interviewed and spoke to hundreds of old time cannabis growers and smokers of high status in the Alaskan and surrounding regions. They also found university archived 'Botanical papers' on tests that were conducted on the true original clone over 3 decades ago by Horticultural departments of universities in that region. Using all the information they gathered over a 2 year period the extrapulated and wrote a page on this fabled strain that can now be found on their homepage:

Matanuska tundra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matanuska_tundra)

The give away regarding the authenticity of this strain is in its' aroma/taste. It has a rich CHOCOLATE flavour. Anything else is NOT the real McCoy.

DocG describes his as being "Sweet, grassy" and reminiscent of old Lumbo weed in taste. The is NO CHOCOLATE tasting Columbian strain in existance. Thai, yes, but not Lumbo. So the Doc has himself been given the royale shaft in obtaining the wrong strain, or is himself selling it under false pretences if he already knows it's not the real thing but soemthing other smokers have built up on over time via forums and other mediums. He says it is more potent than SourDiesel, but I know of MANY other strains that are also. SD is a current Fad, it's not a true HIGH OCTANE strain. The proof is always in the pudding; SourDiesel HAS CEILING...sorry guys.

Also, the true MTF was 100% indica, not sativa Dom. It was the type of indica that exhibited sativa-like thin single bladed leafs in the latter stage of flower. Many other pure indicas do that too. This obviously confused soem into believing it was a sativa DOm or pure strain. So off they went in search of a false holy grail. Their belief in it was so real that they found it even though they didn't.

Another very important TRUE point to note in Wiki is how the TRUE MTF and Tundra require at least ONE frosting outdoors to activate their resins potential to it's maximum. This I have also found to be true with other genepools originating from very cold lands like Ruder strains and others. Sensi's RuderalisIndica has double the potency when grown in this manner, as do others of similar ilk. Which also accounts for why some who have grown the Tundra say it has a good level of potency while other say it's the most potent srtain they've ever had. The latter being growers who grow in short-summer cold climates. Indoors under lights this level of potency CANNOT be obtained unless your growroom's over night temp can approach zero degrees Celcius in the last week or two of flowering.

So what others have today that they claim is MTF is basically a figment of 'their or anothers' imagination or downright deceitful if all they're after is bucks.

So if it's the real MTF you're after, only Saga have it, but to bring out its' best in warm or hot enviroments is near impossible because of the lack of frosts one needs in latter flowering to do so.


But fair warning to anyone wishing to deal with the doc in future regarding any of his strains. It seems the years have condemned.

Hi BagO,

How goes it mate? Anastasia was the friend I told you that was going to seed DrG's MTF out and send us some kerns of it when they were done. She got done it badly with them which now means that we all lose. I can't understand why he's dropped his game so much? Phuck him, his lose more than Ana's because over time Ana would have bought all his top strains off him to do one at a time. Him'z a Fooo Boi, Fooo I tellz yaz.:rastasmoke:

unlokit, I found out he got his OGKush directly from RezDog and just seeded it out to sell. Rez gave his 10 for free, than this is what he did with them. Rez ripped into him about it and Doc replied that he'd be lowering the price...he never did. Rez use to sell it for less than that... you figure, but I'd say it be Greed driven no doubt.


Cheers:)

[Jadian21]

Nice to see Alaska represented and other people who know better than to fall for claims of Matanuska Thunderfuck seeds. I don't know anyone up here that's smoked or seen of the stuff in 15 years.

Plenty of good relatives float around from time to time though.

[the yeag]

Nice to see Alaska represented and other people who know better than to fall for claims of Matanuska Thunderfuck seeds. I don't know anyone up here that's smoked or seen of the stuff in 15 years.

Plenty of good relatives float around from time to time though.



I am looking at some right now..:jointsmile: I just finished transplanting a plant outside in a moose proof flower box. I also just threw a 35lb. king salmon skeleton and guts in a mulch pile....that will make some good soil:jointsmile:

[Jadian21]

Nice plant and nice fish then, you lucky bastard. I absolutely would have found my own plants to do this summer if I knew what was gonna happen to the economy up here.

Oh well, guess I'm stuck waiting until I leave for the winter.

[Dizzy1]

Did you find that local, Yeag?

[2ezy]

Hi guys,


unlokit, I found out he got his OGKush directly from RezDog and just seeded it out to sell. Rez gave his 10 for free, than this is what he did with them. Rez ripped into him about it and Doc replied that he'd be lowering the price...he never did. Rez use to sell it for less than that... you figure, but I'd say it be Greed driven no doubt.


Cheers:)

This "version" of OG Kush has been widely bashed on other boards too as being bogus also. Doc admitted this too..

[himayyi]

I bought matanuska thunderfuck seeds from drchronic.com,
apollo 11 x matanuska thunderfuck
and
matanuska thunderfuck x lowryder ...
that british guy is totally bullshit doesnt sell the original mt genetics

beware!

[himayyi]

whole vid of da matanuska thunderfuck plant:


YouTube - Matanuska Thunderfuck - Clone 3 weeks Outdoor 1992 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir_EPisbiPc)

[Dr.Phil]

Hi everyone!!!!

I just thought I'd drop by and see if there's any update on your situation Anastasia?? Did you ever get your seeds replaced by the Doc? If so, have you grown them out? What do you think of the replacements?

I hope you did get them replaced, let us know how you went.:)

[romdog11]

i ordered my seeds from drgreenthumb and 9 of the 10 germinated and sprouted. im going to start a grow journel of my matanuska thunderfucks once i buy a digital camera.

[Anastasia]

Hi everyone!!!!

I just thought I'd drop by and see if there's any update on your situation Anastasia?? Did you ever get your seeds replaced by the Doc? If so, have you grown them out? What do you think of the replacements?

I hope you did get them replaced, let us know how you went.:)

Hello Dr. Phil,

Yes, I did get some replacement seeds. I just started germinating them a couple of weeks ago and 8 of them are growing so far. Iâ??m looking forward to growing them out and I canâ??t wait to smoke some. :smokin:

Peace

[romdog11]

hey anastasia i was wondering if you could maybe take some pictures of your plants and start a grow log. im going to start a grow log for my plants who are about a month maybe a little less old. i would love to compare notes. what kind of light you have them under what kind of nutrient strentgh all those things would be greatly appreciated. anyone else who has grown mtf from dr greenthumb if you could post pics that would also be awesome.

[Anastasia]

hey anastasia i was wondering if you could maybe take some pictures of your plants and start a grow log. im going to start a grow log for my plants who are about a month maybe a little less old. i would love to compare notes. what kind of light you have them under what kind of nutrient strentgh all those things would be greatly appreciated. anyone else who has grown mtf from dr greenthumb if you could post pics that would also be awesome.

Sure no problem. Right now there isnâ??t much to report. I ended up with 5 seedlings that are growing well. Theyâ??re around 3 inches tall right now. I just harvested 2 MTF plants that I had growing from the first batch of seeds I had and Iâ??ll be trying them as soon as theyâ??re dry. Iâ??ll let you know how the high is. :jointsmile:

[romdog11]

sweet thanks for the post anastasia! i cant wait to hear how they smoke. i have 2 flowering right now and a few in vegging. i keep reading on the icmag.com/ic forums how good mtf is. they say its a trippy very psychedelic high. very sativa like. i hope you enjoy it ill have some pics posted very soon!

[Anastasia]

Iâ??ve been smoking MTF for a few days now and I would say itâ??s one of the best strains Iâ??ve tried. I didnâ??t find it trippy like some did on icmag forums. I thought the high was nicely balanced between head and body. The strain yields well and finishes in 60 days. It would be a good choice for a commercial strain. Itâ??s hard to find strains that yield well, finish in 60 days, and has a balanced high. Most of the 60 days strains are more body than head. So I would say MTF is an excellent choice for anyone wanting a strain with a balanced high.
Iâ??m also trying Sagarmathaâ??s Matanuska Tundra and Seedmanâ??s Ata Tundra and Iâ??ll be able to compare all the Tundra strains in a few months. :jointsmile:

[romdog11]

sounds great anastasia im glad everything worked out for you. i have some mtf about 3 weeks into flower so i cant wait till they are ready for some smoke reports.

[Psycho4Bud]

Just put mine into flower last weekend........CAN'T WAIT!

Have a good grow!:thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

Lookin sick, p4b. And 'sick' in a GOOD way.

[romdog11]

woo hoo some pics those look awesome. on the ic mag forum they say this stuff is really trippy but you have to find the right pheno type. one guy said he has seen 2 distinct phenotypes. one that takes a little longer to initially flower (which is the keeper and the trippy one) and an indica leaning phenotype which isnt as trippy. from what ive seen out of my 2 plants im flowering one did take a while to show its pre flowers. a little over 2 weeks. i didnt clone it so im thinking darn but i was to anxious to smoke them.

ps im interested to see how these would smoke compared to the mtf you currently have stinky.

[stinkyattic]

romdog, the Kenai line I'm running is creeper/painkilling/long lasting/strong and one of the phenos tastes like wild grapes.
I've done several outcrosses using it and have been VERY happy with all.

[Chronisseur]

Count me in!
Today I've returned 2 of Rushmans Toxic Lemon x MVTF to their rightful place under a KW!
I must say, the internode spacing is RIDICULOUS...something like 10 solid "6-"8 shoots per foot of height. I think Stinky's got the idea to combine some of the qualities of more advanced strains, with the structure and vigor of the MTF. My very first attempt at any breeding will be a Rhinofuck x Skunk #1...I cant wait:D

p4b: Lookin' good buddy:thumbsup:
Those look amazingly similar to mine, which one are you runnin'?
I'm using bags for them as well.

Another thing I wanted to point out is that this line seems like it would make for a pretty tough outdoor commercial grow.

[stinkyattic]

I'm interested to see how fast it finishes because that Toxic Lemon isn't a New England outdoor strain by ANY stretch; both people locally to whom I gave cuts to test reported that while it was outrageously vigorous, it didn't look like it would be done before frost. Then... they reported they got ripped off. DAMN DAMN DAMN those thieves.

[romdog11]

if any of you are interested i have a grow log of dr green thumbs mtf's on ic mag here

International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - Dr Greenthumbs Matanuska Thunder**** (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=71690)

check it out if you want.

[Chronisseur]

Whats up romdog? Ever get any molasses into that bitch?...I bet it'll fatten her up nicely! Post a pic or two over here?

[dixie]

In Oregon we are growing a strain called Matanuska Valley Thunder Fuck. I just moved some into bud... now I am very interested to have a taste... :jointsmile:

[romdog11]

i have some pics of my plants but i dont know how to load pics on this forum. could anyone help me out?

[Psycho4Bud]

If their on your computor just go to the bottom of the page when ya post.....find "Manage Attachments". Click on that and it'll allow you to access your pic files.

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[romdog11]

ok well i hope this works here are a few pics of my main mtf that is 3 weeks into flower. its on a diet of botanicares cns17 bloom at 2.0 ec once a week. not much resin production as of yet but ill post more pics as they progress. the plant is around 34 inches tall and was flowered at a height of 9 inches.

[Psycho4Bud]

This will make a GREAT point of comparison. My babies are just going into their third week. I put them into flower at 12 inches...my other strain was already at 19 so I had little choice. Now they vary from 19" to 32" in height, all ladies.:thumbsup:

The bud production looks the same by the way.......

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[romdog11]

hey psycho did you get your seeds from dr greenthumb? if you did have you tried any of his other strains?

[stinkyattic]

Romdog, you need more light!!!!
Plus the MTF I work with- the Yeag's gorgeous Kenai one- is very squat and even under low light will not stretch like that and become leggy. I've grown her under flouros and flowered under HPS- the flouros are just shop lights and she doesn't stretch, period. Demeter runs the same one and reports as well that internode spacing is SHORT.

[Psycho4Bud]

hey psycho did you get your seeds from dr greenthumb? if you did have you tried any of his other strains?

I got my seed from a "very special" source. Haven't done much with the Dr. ......always had to good of luck from Amsterdam Seed.

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[mikeyjo]

stinky. how many flouros are you using. I'm about to clone for the first time will be vegging (i hope at least) under 2 4ft shop lights - 80 watts total.

[stinkyattic]

2 4-foot, 2-bulb fixutres for a total of 4 T12 bulbs is fine. You want that spread of your light. A singel 2-bulb shop light is just OKAY. Not great.
But clone under a single small CFL.
Read the link in my sig if you want to know more about how I have done it most easily.

[mikeyjo]

tonnes of good info - my bad i tend to skip over sigs.

cheers :thumbsup:

[Chronisseur]

I'll have some nice flower pix to post in about a week. My plants were flowered at about ''18-"20 and now stand at "24-"28 tall, with nodes evry "1.5 or so....VERY NICE LINE.

Stink, is Rushman anywhere to be found?
...what do you think...I bet romdog could benefit from lifting that plant up on its side and finishing that way?

p4b: What are those wire things under your babies? Ever had any issues with growbags? Suggestions for a first timer? Cant wait to see updated pix!

[stinkyattic]

Rushman just emailed me some specials yesterday actually. He's kicking around!

[romdog11]

hey stinky. it is under a 600 watt hps like about 8 inches from the tops of the plants. according to the description of this strain it is supposed to be a stretcher. they say if you flower at 9 inches (like i did) it will get to 36 inches. mine is somewhere around 34 right now. must be all the sativa genetics in it. well here is a pic of the light im using. by the way i see someone with the name stinkyattic on the ICmag forums is this by chance you? thanks for the comments have a great day!


Romdog, you need more light!!!!
Plus the MTF I work with- the Yeag's gorgeous Kenai one- is very squat and even under low light will not stretch like that and become leggy. I've grown her under flouros and flowered under HPS- the flouros are just shop lights and she doesn't stretch, period. Demeter runs the same one and reports as well that internode spacing is SHORT.

[stinkyattic]

Yeah that's me. I just registered recently actually.
I'm disappointed with the Dr. Greenthumb line you're running in that case. MTF was bred to be squat and indoor. Plus I have always been under the impression it's a pure INDICA. A tall sat makes no sense.
Did you by any chance veg under a HPS? That's the only other way I can think of that you'd get such a tall lanky plant under such a big light.

[romdog11]

i vegged them under a 400 watt mh. during veg they are squat but man do they stretch. well welcome to the ic mags maybe ill see you around there too : )

[ificouldiwould]

that shit sound like some kill

[Chronisseur]

So romdog, I think you should really consider lighting that baby sideways. Any molasses yet?

Stinky, can you share what Rushmans got goin on, or no?

[romdog11]

i was able to add some molassas in its last watering. about the side lighting im low on space and imeating alot of electricity running an ac in the closet too so im not sure if i would be able to add side lighting or how that works

[Psycho4Bud]

Just a lil' update on the children.....2.5 week flower.:D

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Pretty ladies!!!
Look at you with your grow-bags-on-wheels... the ULTIMATE portable grow? HAHAHA you nerd.
That's great. They look healthy as fuck too.

[Psycho4Bud]

Pretty ladies!!!
Look at you with your grow-bags-on-wheels... the ULTIMATE portable grow? HAHAHA you nerd.
That's great. They look healthy as fuck too.

What? I give the ladies a quarter turn each day so that all sides have different opportunities at the lights. I have a triangle effect with 1-400W MH on one side and 2-400W HPS on the other two. Then there is a 250W HPS overhead for them all to enjoy. :D

I know, I spoil my children........

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

....I have a triangle effect with 1-400W MH on one side and 2-400W HPS on the other two. Then there is a 250W HPS overhead....
I stand by my original verdict! :jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

O.K.....FINE!! I'M A NERD AND PROUD OF IT!! LOL

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[the image reaper]

a REAL nerd would have them motorized, and remote-controlled ... or, are they ?? :wtf:

[Psycho4Bud]

a REAL nerd would have them motorized, and remote-controlled ... or, are they ?? :wtf:

I've been trying to design a motorized carousel based on a 24 hour rotation. LOL...I might be a nerd but I'm the Nerd with the Herb.

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

p4b it's far easier to move the lights automatically...
Hydroponics of Buffalo - Hydrofarm Lights and Supplies (http://www.hydroponicsbuff.com/hydroponics_lighting_movers.htm)
I think The Yeag used to run one of these. He freaking ADORED his circular light mover whatever it was.

[Charles U Farley]

Iâ??ve been smoking MTF for a few days now and I would say itâ??s one of the best strains Iâ??ve tried. I didnâ??t find it trippy like some did on icmag forums. I thought the high was nicely balanced between head and body. The strain yields well and finishes in 60 days. It would be a good choice for a commercial strain. Itâ??s hard to find strains that yield well, finish in 60 days, and has a balanced high. Most of the 60 days strains are more body than head. So I would say MTF is an excellent choice for anyone wanting a strain with a balanced high.
Iâ??m also trying Sagarmathaâ??s Matanuska Tundra and Seedmanâ??s Ata Tundra and Iâ??ll be able to compare all the Tundra strains in a few months.

Keep us updated as I would be very interested the comparisons you mentioned,take care and be safe.

[the image reaper]

awww, Stinky, you don't need an automated turntable, you have male slaves to do that physical stuff for ya ... :S2:

[Psycho4Bud]

p4b it's far easier to move the lights automatically...
Hydroponics of Buffalo - Hydrofarm Lights and Supplies (http://www.hydroponicsbuff.com/hydroponics_lighting_movers.htm)
I think The Yeag used to run one of these. He freaking ADORED his circular light mover whatever it was.

Easier yes but the thought of watching my plants do a ballet is intreaging. :D

I'm thinking of somthing on the order of a tilt a whirl where the basic platform would make a full rotation every 24 hours and the individual stands would rotate 8 times in the same period.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Easier yes but the thought of watching my plants do a ballet is intreaging.
I'm thinking of somthing on the order of a tilt a whirl where the basic platform would make a full rotation every 24 hours and the individual stands would rotate 8 times in the same period.

You worry me sometimes.
Although to be quite honest the idea of getting stoned and watching your plants slowly turn is indeed intriguing. Much better than those cheesy rotating restaurants. Those are just good for a bit of nausea after your less-than-fresh clams casino and that third Gibson...

[Psycho4Bud]

Here we are, 3.5 wks for the babies.

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[Chronisseur]

That's one badass gang of bitches right there!

I wanted to tell Romdog to repot. Looks like a very small flower pot and an extra gallon of dirt may make your plant MUCH happier! Any lasses yet? Did you ever tip it sideways?

I'll have my pix up tomorrow. Burnt through 2 packs of batteries already before I decided to LISTEN, and get lithium...:wtf:

[romdog11]

well here are a few more pics. my camera isnt the best so the quality of the pics isnt the best. hope you enjoy. they are on a diet of molassas and an ec feeding of 2.4 once a week. oh and i have repotted her recently into my biggest pot that will fit in the spot shes growing.

[Psycho4Bud]

My lil' virgins........:D
Just so there is no confusion.....half of these are Blue Mistic....

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[romdog11]

omg.......:what: i cant believe you have that crazy bitch song in your sig ahhhhh!!!!!!! lol

[Psycho4Bud]

My little angels..........:D

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[romdog11]

wow psycho your plants are coming along really nicely. they have a huge top cola and everything is fattening up. mine on the other hand are really slow to flower. i highly doubt they will be ready in the 65 day given time. the top buds are barely forming it seems and its been like 40 days into flowering. im done whining but your plants are looking good m8.

[Psycho4Bud]

It took two weeks before mine did anything. Thanks to a good friend that had a HUGE Co2 tank........things are progressing a bit nicer than before.:D

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

Babies are comin' along..............

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Those bitches are gettin too big for their britches! I see the first signs that they are root bound... of course, you are already pretty far along.. soo... anyway wow. That one cola looks pretty amazing.

[Psycho4Bud]

Those bitches are gettin too big for their britches! I see the first signs that they are root bound... of course, you are already pretty far along.. soo... anyway wow. That one cola looks pretty amazing.

I hear ya but like ya said...they're so close it wouldn't be worth the hassle. Should be time to sacrifice the virgins in a couple weeks.:thumbsup:

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[the image reaper]

OUTSTANDING Avatar, P4B .... :thumbsup:

[cwesto]

P4B, ur gro looks great :thumbsup:. Didnt really have time to peruse the entire 5 pages, but i was wondering how big ur containers are? Like i said, if the pot size was mentioned up further in the thread sorry i missed it..

[Psycho4Bud]

OUTSTANDING Avatar, P4B .... :thumbsup:

Thanks much......


P4B, ur gro looks great :thumbsup:. Didnt really have time to peruse the entire 5 pages, but i was wondering how big ur containers are? Like i said, if the pot size was mentioned up further in the thread sorry i missed it..


5 gal. grow bags.....I don't have them filled to capacity though, I'd say probably closer to 3.5-4.

Have a good grow!:jointsmile:

[romdog11]

Saneen goats are you still out there? i wuold like to ask you a few questions on your grow. I saw a post you made where you said you wanted dense buds because your last grow wasnt very dense. was that by chance the mtf because my buds arent too dense either. looking forward to hearing from you.

[SaanenGoats]

Ya, I'm still floating out here, working on better buds this year. No, the light fluffy buds where from White Grizzly plants, a strain from the Vancouver Seed Bank. As far as the MTF went, I planted outdoors in central BC and by the time the frost hit the MTF had maybe a week's worth of flowering. Moral of the story: no more expensive seeds for me. I'll stick to White Grizzly and some Kish (also from VSB) this year because I know it finishes and just buy Gravity and feed it molasses (hopefully wildlife won't go nuts for the sweet stuff on the ground). Sorry to hear your buds aren't too dense either, if I were indoors I'd try the commercial products like Gravity, Bushmaster, Purple Maxx, if it's not too late. Good luck!

[deaner]

I wish I could find some garuanteed MTF, I live in Ak and supposedly smoked some a few weeks ago, twas definately NOT the real deal. In the past I've had some and I jusr remember getting wrecked but I was a lightweight way back when. I hear someone say they got some and I automatically assume bullshit. I've been told it no longer exists around here. At all.

[stinkyattic]

It's funny you should bump this thread today. I was just having a pm chat with a member from another forum who has a pre-1980 Alaskan cut but who refuses to put the label 'THE Thunderfuck' on it. We seem to agree that 99% of the time anyone bold enough to claim possession of the One and Only is gonna be full of poo. The pure stuff may or may not be available in your area but be certain that the local strains derived from it DO have merit. It's a matter of finding one that carries the proper traits that you consider 'authentic', like the creeper stone, painkilling factor, and chocolate or wild grape scent.

[deaner]

I will run into a clone someday.. thatd be real cool, thanks for that very accurate description, will be helpful determining if its legit, when i hit some. So not a lemony flavor or grapefruit? I had some like this a few months ago that was unreal, mtf strong I'm sure.

[stinkyattic]

MTF is said to have changed significantly sometime during the 70's (so I am told by a relatively believeable source) when Indica genetics made their way to Alaska. Before that, it had been strictly NorCal sativa genetics. Depending on the time when your particular cut originated, you may find that you have an indica-leaning or sativa-leaning version.
I hate to put the label the 'true' MTF on anything. Instead, I consider MTF to be a CLASS of Alaskan genetics. I know plenty of people will argue that point with me, but the basic truth is that localized and somewhat isolated growing communities each have a basic line that can be traced to the same origins.
I'm not an authority on this by any stretch, but if you read around enough, and talk to enough people, you should come to a similar conclusion.

[deaner]

I agree totally, the line was surely crossed in making it more indoor/alaska freindly over time. It's probably in the family tree of more than a few local strains. I know there is an older grower, that grows amazing stuff, that I wish i could talk to but the freind between is the best communication I can get for now, some guys are real smart/paranoid. I will send a message up the vine and see what I find out.