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Psycho4Bud
02-03-2007, 11:08 PM
Been alot of talk about Iran in here lately. Anybody ever read their constitution? We all know what a Preamble is.....here's a bit out of theirs:

Preamble
The Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran advances the cultural, social, political, and economic institutions of Iranian society based on Islamic principles and norms, which represent an honest aspiration of the Islamic Ummah. This aspiration was exemplified by the nature of the great Islamic Revolution of Iran, and by the course of the Muslim people's struggle, from its beginning until victory, as reflected in the decisive and forceful calls raised by all segments of the populations. Now, at the threshold of this great victory, our nation, with all its beings, seeks its fulfillment.
ICL - Iran - Constitution (http://www.oefre.unibe.ch/law/icl/ir00000_.html)

"Seeks its fulfillment", this is in regard to the "aspiration of the Islamic Ummah".........so WTF is that you may ask?

Some modern Islamists use the term "Islamic Umma" or "Muslim Umma" to refer to all the people in the lands and countries where Muslims predominantly reside, and which were once under the control of the Islamic Caliphate. They thus include non-Muslim minorities as members of the umma. When they talk of unifying the "Islamic Umma" they would include these non-Muslims, as citizens of the Islamic Umma, living peacefully with their own respective religions, subject to certain specific conditions. See Dhimmi for a full discussion of this concept. Other Islamists accept the full equality of all citizens in a putative future Islamic state, regardless of their religion. In either case, shariah (Islamic law) would apply to the citizens of the state.
Ummah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ummah)

They wrote their intentions right into their constitution, but yet some think that negotiations could work.......Iran IS on a Mission!:S4:

eg420ne
02-04-2007, 12:31 AM
So are the PNACers..Lets say for a moment that Iran liked the USA even to the point of wanting to be just like us but then the usa (CIA) decided to do a coup and install there own muppet, but it backfired on them, Do you think that country would still harbor hatred for us...or what if Irans intell did such act on the USA woould we not still be upset.... Gees man grapsing for straws again, im sure alot of nations have some sort of "i want everyone to be like us in there constitution"
then you have a crazy president telling the world that Irans one of the axis of evil sure that wouldnt piss off amsterdam but were talking a whole different culture

Ohh wait a coup did happen with the CIA back in the 50s, no wonder they have hatred toward us..we have a mad man of our own to deal with lets take care of our government first b4 we try it to others

Psycho4Bud
02-04-2007, 02:33 AM
Gees man grapsing for straws again, im sure alot of nations have some sort of "i want everyone to be like us in there constitution"

I don't know if Alex Jones covers that but if you have any other supporting link I'd be more than happy to read it.

It's right there in black and white dude....DANGER from Iran. What's the old saying...."You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink." Don't be a thristy horse, take a swallow.:bonghit:

Have a good one!:s4:

eg420ne
02-04-2007, 04:45 AM
I don't know if Alex Jones covers that
Have a good one!:s4:
dont know about that, but i do know you and the rest of the neo-con grasping for them straws for a war with iran, next thing you know they be sayin that irans taking babies from the incubator and throwing them around or have flying drones on the way over to america..wait its already been used:S4:

eg420ne
02-04-2007, 04:53 AM
and you shouldnt fear sum1 cause of what its constitituion says..your're a big man if any1 tries to convert you fight back, gawd-damn......america will never fall from the outside only from the inside

Zimzum
02-04-2007, 06:56 PM
From the link P4B provided. You can see as they made more amendments things start to not look so good twords the end. But you can also see how there ways have changed. Makes you wonder if America would at the same mind set as the Iranian government IF our constitution didn't include the part about separation of church and state. Would our president now be a pope holding an AK47?

Article 13 [Recognized Religious Minorities]
Zoroastrian, Jewish, and Christian Iranians are the only recognized religious minorities, who, within the limits of the law, are free to perform their religious rites and ceremonies, and to act according to their own canon in matters of personal affairs and religious education.

Article 14 [Non-Muslims' Rights]
In accordance with the sacred verse "God does not forbid you to deal kindly and justly with those who have not fought against you because of your religion and who have not expelled you from your homes" [60:8], the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and all Muslims are duty-bound to treat non-Muslims in conformity with ethical norms and the principles of Islamic justice and equity, and to respect their human rights. This principle applies to all who refrain from engaging in conspiracy or activity against Islam and the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Article 19 [No Discrimination, No Privileges]
All people of Iran, whatever the ethnic group or tribe to which they belong, enjoy equal rights; color, race, language, and the like, do not bestow any privilege.

medicinal
02-04-2007, 08:03 PM
Article 19 [No Discrimination, No Privileges]
All people of Iran, whatever the ethnic group or tribe to which they belong, enjoy equal rights; color, race, language, and the like, do not bestow any privilege.
Yeah, so there!!! Lets talk to them. Their leader is no more crazy than Bush, in fact probably not as. The thing that I wonder about is the picture I saw behind Ahmadinajad at a news conference. It was a giant mural of a poppy field, yeah opium poppies. Is that crazy guy a junkie? Hell Bush could be a Junkie, I've seen some speeches where he slured his words and looked wasted. But talking is always better than war!

Myth1184
02-06-2007, 12:49 AM
Iran is claiming that it has a Herbal Cure to aids....lol..