weed in the 60s early 70s

[cron]

alright my freind and I got into a argument the other day cause he thought the weed back then was stronger and I thought todays weed was stronger and I thought I would ask of your guys/girls opinion

[mowie wowie]

its a fact that weed today is stronger

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

yea, its said lol.. todays weed is much stronger..

[thedazn]

man you must not know what google is...
its proven scientifically that today's weed is stronger

[mowie wowie]

stronger today period

[twist n shout]

Stronger today, handsdown.:S5:

[FreeVenice]

I've seen old videos, that shit looks like Dirty Dirt weed. . . Shwag to a tee

[BUDhha]

just like everyone else said, today's is stronger.

[2600HERTZ]

Anything with enough time to evolve will do just that. Buddha IS stronger today.

[xxxhazexxx]

i dont know whats it like over there but in the 70s we used to get a lot of sensi from jamaca and durbun poison and that weed is up there with todays bud :S5:

[Polymirize]

You should get the opinions of the guys in the grow rooms.

I'd say the plants for the most part remain the same (although there a ton more hybrid varieties these days for sure) but think about how far growing tech has come since that time. I'm not saying you didn't see any hydroponic and light settups back in the day, but shit, not like you do now.

Hands down, the average bud you can find anywhere these days, has got to be stronger.

[Sir Bliss]

Much more potent strains have been created over the years. Back in the 60s and 70s it was hard to come by what we'd all consider "dank". My mom showed me pictures of the shit she used to smoke back then, and it's actually not that bad; looked like some decent middy to me.

But it's obviously not the same stuff we've all been smoking.

[Bob the Awesome]

I think the reason for the change is, I remember hearing somewhere, that sinsemilla growing started up on a much larger scale in the 70's, before that they just had mids.

I'm sure they had some decent stuff, but nothing like the extremely potent, highly varied strains we have today. That's what kicks the average THC content up.

[Skeevy Stoner]

You all believe bad propaganda, there is no possibility that thc has upped its psychoactive ingredient in the plant over the last 30 years,
theres no difference between the buds then and now,
if anything there was alot more bad weed around back then.

[Nochowderforyou]

I think cannabis had the same potential back then as it does today. The thing about the 70's, is they didn't have proper lighting to produce worthy cannabis. HPS bulbs were not common back then, and were very expensive, due to them being a new discovery, so very few people had them. Now, you can go into any garden center and you can find HPS bulbs.

They didn't have advanced techniques either. They didn't know about the Scrog, or LST training.

They didn't have quality ferts either, if any. Now though, there are so many differnet kinds to choose from.

So all in all, they just didn't have the technology or resources like they do today to grow quality stuff. I'm sure it would have been amazing stuff then if they would have known all the things they can do to make it better.

All I know, is when I asked my dad how he used to grow his cannabis, he said they never used any food, and the only indoor lighting then that was actually affordable, was Floro tubes.

So if all we had these days was the same kind of equipt., I'm sure we would be growing nasty stuff too. Not having the proper equipt. to grow, results in shitty cannabis. Simple as that.

And most of you weren't even born in the 70's, or the 80's. Not that I was, but none of you know how good it was back then, so how can you say it was shitty stuff? You weren't there, so be quiet. :)

[Natural Revolution]

Just out of curiousity. How many of your were alive and smoking back then? I wasnt so I have a few things to base my opinion on.

1) from what I have read a plant cannot be genetically modified like that over a short period of time, 30 years or so. 2) people have been cultivating potent cannabis for thousands of years according to history, 3) several old hippies I know and smoke with regularly assure me this is not true. in fact most of them are still looking or longing for strains of the day, 4) George Washington grew hemp and wrote about separating males and females, so this process was known at least 200 years before the 1970s, 5) our government are the ones telling us this, and we all know they are lying pieces of shit.

I think what it boils down to is that there is more sensi being grown now sure, but back then the majority of shit was brick coming up from down south. With the proliferation of grow lights and hydro, techniques have definitely improved making high quality smoke more common. But I just won't accept that humans could advance a plant genetically so extremely in 30 years under artificial sunlight, when the real sun and thousands of years didn't have this effect. Another thing is through breeding, sure people have captured strains that produce a lot of resin, but this is still a trait of nature, and modern weed is not a "different drug" altogether. Thats a fuckin crazy claim.

[JMRinFLA]

It's a complete myth that weed today is stronger. I was smoking and growing from 1979-85. I gave up toking when I joined the Army (good idea, huh!?). The skunk I'm smoking now isn't any stronger than the premium shit I could buy in NYC when I was in school. Natural Rev. had a good point, most of you who responded aren't old enough to really know. Take it from one who was there.

[conch420]

i wonder how strong the pot was 2000 years ago?

[rottenPauL]

pot is pot. In order to create strong strains you need to have strong bases. Do you think skunk came out of the blue? Dank cannabis is here way before mokneys were evolved into humen. Human just crossed landrace strains with other landrace strains to create something different. Take the kush varieties for example. They come from a landrace strain in kush valley somewhere in india... And they r considered to be some of the most potent strains today... I could only say that today with all the knowledge we have from previous generations, we could be sure we can take 100% from our plants, for example we use the proper drying and curing methods that people maybe didnt know like 100 years ago.

[MotleyCrueBoy24]

it's easy to believe it's more potent today...but i think you old school stoners are absolutely right.

[LSK420theVille]

my parents told me they were smoking buds just as potent as the ones i get now.. i believe them

[canuck grower]

Even most of the shitty mexican schwag has good genetics, but it was pollinated for one thing and went through a hell of a trip and probably a year before it got further north and was smoked by people like us. You get high of schwag even if it's not so awesome. Grow the seeds, you could be pleasantly surprised.

I think a lot of that applies to the 60-70s as well. Maybe it wasn't always sensi or it'd been used to make hash before it went out, things like that. There was probably a lot of shitty weed like someone mentioned, which is why you may hear people who were around back then say that the weed is better now. It's also all about who you know. You can get shitty weed and good weed nearly anywhere in the world today.

[bowlsnapper2012]

It is not that weed today is necessarily stronger, it is just that stronger weed is more common today than it was back in the day. The reason good weed is much more common today is because growing techniques, not the plant have evolved. However, in certain countries and in certain households in the United States during the 60's and 70's they had equally as good if not better weed than we have today. Even though this existed, the majority were getting 10 an ounce shwag

[exoticnoise]

Me and my dad had this conversation one time, hes a great friend and smoke with him everyday. he was born in 1960 grew up in rochester, MI. just outside of det. he said there was just as good of stuff back in the 60's-70's as there is now, you just have more of a varity to choose from now, but what you pay for a really good quarter now you could of gotten a ounce for back then. but yeah, i think because of science theres just some super dank shit out there now that old hippies couldent compete with back then.

[xxxhazexxx]

as i said before some of you guys and girls must be young no disrespec but (lamsbread) (redbeard) (alaskan) (ice) (durburn posion) (red thia) and any other jamacan sensi from back in the day is as potent as any ducth buds.

[Psycho4Bud]

Panama Red, Acapulco Gold from the old days I'd put up against most any strain out now. The Acapulco fucked you up big time!:S5:

By the way, lets keep this chat to WEED.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[jfoster]

i dont know, but my dad(class of 75) said that he thought, when you got good weed, it was better then todays. he says that Acapulco gold was so sticky all you could do was just drop it straight in to the bowl. he said the calyxes on that shit were white. i've also heard some amazing stories about panama red and this dark, black, gooey hash oil. One hit and you couldnt take another

[Psycho4Bud]

Acapulco gold was the shit dude, your ol' man don't lie at all! Back in about 77 me and some buddies were all fucked up on columbian to the point where we were kind of melting into this tree we were sitting against. I had a half a jay of A.G. and DAMN.......it was like Chong in Up In Smoke.....it's like it brought us to a completely different level. :S5:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Frivolous248]

I say, back in the day they had better weed.

Why do they say it is more potent today? Well read this...
Marijuana Health Mythology (http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/mj-health-mythology.html#myth11)

Makes sense to me...my dad is surprised that I'm not getting "1-hit shit" and is like "theres gotta be stuff thats like 1 hit and your done, back in the day we'd take like 2-3 hits and we'd be totally out of it" or whatever. He's also dropped names like "acapulco gold" and said that they really liked this stuff "sinsimilla" (I know, its latin for without seeds).

Also, if you've watched drug years, you'd know they were all about quality back in the day. They'd fly out of country just to get better shit. Nowadays dealers don't care about how they treat the customer. People were much nicer back then, so it makes sense they wanted to get better shit for their clients.

Now, theres still great shit around today, no doubt. But it was definitely more plentiful back in the day.

[Psycho4Bud]

Mexican was $15 an ounce
Columbian was $20
A.G., Jamaican, Panama Red.......between $20-$25 an ounce

Grams of afghani and black hash were a dime a dozen.......get that for about $5 a gram if I recall right.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[TurnyBright]

wonder what caused prices to skyrocket like that...

it obviously wasnt better weed, i wish i could try some Acapulco Gold

[jfoster]

well, according to my dad, thai stick came in. it was a bit more expensive then average. eventually that became the norm. and it just continued.....

[Psycho4Bud]

It started going up when the U.S. government started using paraquat on Mexican marijuana fields. Then it's like your ol' man said. This strain is better than the last and costs an extra 10 maybe 20 and it went from there. Wasn't really any better.....thats a FACT!

In our day, home grown was a dirty word! Not worth buying and if your were stupid enough to.......well, after the first nasty tasting joint it was the last time.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[FreeVenice]

Homegrown. . .Everyone was probly trying to grow out doors back then, and didn't have anyone to help them. What I want to know is how often did people smoke back then, I mean they had to wait for some to cross the boarder right. My dad thinks that our tolerance is alot high than his. I smoked my dad out with a joint on a camping trip one time and he barly could move. From what I know my dad still smokes since he left Vietnam, but the stuff that he smokes looks staight out the 60's, It's stress plain and simple. I want to kick the guy's ass, the guy that he gets it from that is. My dad says thats what he was smoking most of the time though. He said that he has had Panama Red and A.G., but the best that he has ever had was some that he got while on tour (I think he said it was grown there but I don't recall), he thinks the stuff that we smoke now is too much, every once and a while though I give him some mids and he's happy.

[make it legal]

My uncle told me he would have t smoke like 5 j's to get high

[canuck grower]

Yeah psycho4bud I have heard other stories about Colombian Red making people hallucinate mildly. Now that is some crazy ass weed man. I have never smoked anything that good and I have smoked some pretty good bud.

[ganjah]

Hey Psycho4Bud seeing as how you smoked the bud from back in the day and I haven't, I'd like to know how the thai stick was back then. I wish we could still get some of those man.

[FreeVenice]

Thai stick's are those things with bud and hash oil stuck to it right? I think you can still get those.

[canuck grower]

lol reaper! yeah dude that's the scene I always think of when someone mentions thai stick. comedy gold that is.

[FreeVenice]

you can make nice Cigars out of Thai sticks. I think I had one, or at least was told that it was. I heard that thats how Cuban's were made. Although I had alot of Cuban's and none tasted the same and got me half as stoned.

[FreeVenice]

Hope this answers your question ='D

Cheech: I even smoked that Tied Stick, and that didn't do nothing to me man
Chong: Tied Stick?
Cheech: Yea Tied Stick... you know, that stuff, that's tied to a stick!
Chong: Oooh Thai Stick

Hey Reaper you know that quote you have isn't Rage right? I bet you do. I hate when people don't know they are listening to cover songs. Anyway just being lame. I could of gone to that reunion too, but I got in line to late and wasn't about to buy the three day pass.

[intrepidus6]

It's stronger today, but they are also more likely to cut it with oregano or spray it with windex or some shit like that now.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Most all of the good stuff from the 60's through the late 70's was imported. This was before people started growing "skunk" and "sensi".

Columbian Reds and Golds were very good, but not the strongest strains we had - the large Thai Stick, Hawaiian, and many other brands were stronger, and hash from Tibet and Nepal were great also. Oh, and we had hash oil to punch things up - but it really didn't catch on because the weed and hash were all we needed. The average smoker was more than satisfied with so-called "commercial" Columbian, which went for 35-50 an oz. in New York, in the 70's. Columbian Gold and Red was going for 50-60 an oz. at that time. There were other types that would show up, as well. Jamacian commerical was plentiful, and cheap, in the early 70's - and a good alternative to the worsening supplies of Mexican. There was the famous "Black Gunji" as well, which was about 100 an oz. really powerful Indica.

I'd be happy to find some good Mexican again - especially Michocan, which was among the first of the really strong weeds I'd gotten, long ago.

[FreeVenice]

Yea hah... Rage never covered Insane in the Brain =P

I've heard it in person while on they were on stage with Cypress, never say never, and that whole song is like a cover.

[canuck grower]

best rage cover of cypress hill is how i could just kill a man! great cover.

anyway yeah you could do all sorts of experiments but I will take the word of the several guys who were there that have posted here. it's not scientific but i see no reason for them to gang up and lie about it as a joke or something. i'll be interested in the experiments but i would bet dollars to donuts that they just confirm what's already been said here. :jointsmile:

[Natural Revolution]

Someone was telling me that in the 80s even, you could get an ounce of dank in florida for $100. The entire coastline was wide open for smugglers, and this state was like the mecca for weed. Then the starting using the military to control the coast.

Also I think even though they had good buds back then, most people smoked regs. My cousins dad started smoking in vietnam, and this guy is pretty loaded. However 30 years later, he is still smoking regs. One time we blazed w/ him and he said our nugs were too potent, that he likes regs better.

[madeline]

Yes, you nailed it! We had excellent high-grade bud in the 60's and 70's but it just wasn't as common as now. Columbian, Jamaican, Nam, Cambodian and even some Mex was just as excellent as today's Blueberry and the rest of the best and if anything is different it's the prices. High-grade cost more then if using today's dollar...iow, a $100 bag of Columbian red bud cost about the same as a $350 bag of today's Blueberry...Coke's only cost a quarter then and a phone call was only a dime! But I miss the flavor of some of those old strains...


It is not that weed today is necessarily stronger, it is just that stronger weed is more common today than it was back in the day. The reason good weed is much more common today is because growing techniques, not the plant have evolved. However, in certain countries and in certain households in the United States during the 60's and 70's they had equally as good if not better weed than we have today. Even though this existed, the majority were getting 10 an ounce shwag

[TheAtomicPunk]

My uncle kept 3 oz's sealed in a jar for 25 years

We smoked a few bowls of it and OMFG! It looked just like old bud, it was still sticky though. It hit incredibley smooth out of a handpipe and I was completley ripped. This was deffinetley some high quality shit.