Cannabis or Marijuana?

[Breukelen advocaat]

I can't relate to the world "Cannabis". Does anybody else prefer "Marijuana"? It's a much prettier name, IMO, and far more well-known.

[aeonblue11]

marijuana makes it sound bad. cannabis has a positive sound to it.

[higher4hockey]

REEFER!

[TheFatKid]

cannabis sounds more green for some reason.

Mariganja is the best of all though.

[EmoRebellion]

I always call it bud, smoke, green, or weed.

[LIP]

Marijuana is racist. Cannabis is it's REAL name, and it's the name i .... it's the name i.... it's the name.

Marijuana sounds bad, and it sounds like how the Authorities would call it.

Marijuana is a Racist word.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Marijuana is racist. Cannabis is it's REAL name, and it's the name i .... it's the name i.... it's the name.

Marijuana sounds bad, and it sounds like how the Authorities would call it.

Marijuana is a Racist.

Please explain how a mere word, which has been an affectionate term for weed since long before you were born, is "racist".

[geonagual]

I like every word except POT! Yuck!

[LIP]

It was a word used to describe the mexican workers or something like that.

And why does it matter it's been around long before me? So has the word nigger but that's still a word used by those racist wankers.

[suhl]

authorites areound here call it cannabis and/or marijuana

[Nochowderforyou]

I don't use either of those words. I prefer Grass, or Reefer. I like the old school slang. :)

One I do hate is Dope, I hate that word!

[suhl]

i love the word

[MacWQ33]

Pass the trees please...

Or the buda....

[geonagual]

Oh yeah, I dont like dope either.

[ATrain]

I don't use either but if I had to pick I'd say Cannabis :S5:

But I like sticking to pot, MJ, or Buddha.

[Breukelen advocaat]

It was a word used to describe the mexican workers or something like that.

And why does it matter it's been around long before me? So has the word nigger but that's still a word used by those racist wankers.



Your scholarship of the topic is notable.:S2:

I don't hear many people use the "n" word, except for certain people referring to others of their own race. Equating "Marijuana" with that word is really stupid.

[geonagual]

I think it depends on where you are from.

[stinkyattic]

I don't like 'pot' or 'dope'.
I also don't use 'marijuana'.
If I'm growing it, it's cannabis.
If I'm smoking it, it's Ganj, Herb, or, affectionately, Shrek.

[LIP]

Your scholarship of the topic is notable.:S2:

I don't hear many people use the "n" word, except for certain people referring to others of their own race. Equating "Marijuana" with that word is really stupid.

Lol. Your the only stupid one i can see. Now i know why other poeople ahve argued with you.

If you read my post, and yes, that means actually read it, you'd see i wasnt comparing the word nigger to the word marijuana.

I was asking, why you felt the need to say it was a "mere" word that has been around long before i was born...

That's like you saying just because the word is older than me its not racist.

Stop trying to put me down, dont be an idiot and read what i post.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Lol. Your the only stupid one i can see. Now i know why other poeople ahve argued with you.

If you read my post, and yes, that means actually read it, you'd see i wasnt comparing the word nigger to the word marijuana.

I was asking, why you felt the need to say it was a "mere" word that has been around long before i was born...

That's like you saying just because the word is older than me its not racist.

Stop trying to put me down, dont be an idiot and read what i post.

People like you give a bad name to Marijuana users. Grow a brain, dummy.

And maybe learn how to spell, also - if that isn't asking too much. :D

[stinkyattic]

Your scholarship of the topic is notable.
.
On one hand, you may be a well educated individual.
On the other hand, you tend to come across as quite arrogant, laughing at people who you seem to think are intellectually beneath you.
Just an observation... not just this thread... others as well.

[LIP]

People like you give a bad name to Marijuana users. Grow a brain, dummy. :)

No, people as ignorant and ARROGANT as you do. Im not even going to bother with you.

1] I think your an absolute idiot, who thinks he has all the wisdom in the world, and just cant accept that he's not mr know it all, and that he's wrong.

2] Im really not in the mood, i have better things to do with my time than argue with arrogant people like you.

Good day sir, dont fall down the stairs. :S4:

And I'd also like to point out, spelling means nothing. This is the internet. Open your eyes. What year is it? Not the year arrogant To****** like you are living in.

[stinkyattic]

People like you give a bad name to Marijuana users. Grow a brain, dummy.

And maybe learn how to spell, also - if that isn't asking too much. :D

WOW I guess I was typing mine as you were typing yours... and as it turns out, you just confirmed my observations tidily.

[Breukelen advocaat]

On one hand, you may be a well educated individual.
On the other hand, you tend to come across as quite arrogant, laughing at people who you seem to think are intellectually beneath you.
Just an observation... not just this thread... others as well.

Why don't you give an example of where I did this? I was simply making a case for a word that I consider beautiful - and ignorant people are opposed to the word for nonsensical reasons.

[MacWQ33]

God damn Lippa, what's with all the kids taking shots at you today haha.

[LIP]

Why don't you give an example of where I did this? I was simply making a case for a word that I consider beautiful - and ignorant people are opposed to the word for nonsensical reasons. :cool:

Exmaple? Your last 2 or 3 posts are a good enough example. Or try looking through your post count. Im sure you'll find them easy to come buy, concidering it's every other post.

Maybe you should make a poll and ask the people of cann.com. I wonder what the answer would be. Any guesses?

[stinkyattic]

Listen, Avocaat, (are you really a lawyer, or an avocado, or just a poser?)I don't have time for this crap.
Next time I see you acting like a less-than-humble MENSA reject, I'll be sure to let ya know.
Thanks for killing the thread, buddy!

[Breukelen advocaat]

Exmaple? Your last 2 or 3 posts are a good enough example. Or try looking through your post count. Im sure you'll find them easy to come buy, concidering it's every other post.

You have 4X as many posts as I have, and I've been here longer. Any other questions, Einstein?

Man, all I wanted was to give some credit to a word that was formerly associated with fun and pleasure - and these party-poopers have to go off on it! Well, it does not surprise me. :D

[LIP]

You have 4X as many posts as I have, and I've been here longer. Any questions, Einstein?

Post count means nothing.

Are you doing this on purpose?

Trying to get more and more petty? Your insulting my post count. And your meant to be an older guy, one who has knowledge.

If your as petty as to insult me via my post count then you need to grow up.

A man of your age shouldnt be that childish.

It's a disgrace.

[geonagual]

hmmmmm....

Marijuana is ok. But I prefer to call it Bud.

[geonagual]

LIP, dont even bother dude.
It is just an asshole looking for a fight.

and to think I was going to give some pos rep on this thread. Phew, hate to hand'em out that easy.

PEACE:S5:

[iwantFUEGO]

You have 4X as many posts as I have, and I've been here longer. Any other questions, Einstein?

Man, all I wanted was to give some credit to a word that was formerly associated with fun and pleasure - and these party-poopers have to go off on it! Well, it does not surprise me. :D

Not that my opinion matters or anything...

But my opinion is that you are an ignoramus.

And you've officially been moved to my long list of "Idiots".

:S3:

[stinkyattic]

And you've officially been moved to my long list of "Idiots".

Step off biznatch, he was on my list first, lol!

[Breukelen advocaat]

Not that my opinion matters or anything...

But my opinion is that you are an ignoramus.

And you've officially been moved to my long list of "Idiots".

:S3:

I guess that you are also opposed to the word "Marijuana". I also suppose that your "long list of idiots" includes everybody that does not oppose that word, or agree that it is equal to using the "n" word, as your buddy "LIP" thinks.

You know, this stuff will NEVER be legalized as long as stupidity and fighting are so common among the people that are in favor of it.

[LIP]

He's been on mine for months now, he does this in almost every thread i read where he's replyed.

[LIP]

I guess that you are also opposed to the word "Marijuana". I also suppose that your "long list of idiots" includes everybody that does not oppose that word, or agree that it is equal to using the "n" word, as your buddy "LIP" thinks.

You know, this stuff will NEVER be legalized as long as stupidity and fighting are so common among the people that are in favor of it.

Again, you dont understand. I didnt compare it to the word nigger.

I dont even have to post. Your proving how much of an idiot you are on your own.

It's embarassing.

[stinkyattic]

You know, this stuff will NEVER be legalized as long as stupidity and fighting are so common among the people that are in favor of it.
lol I guess you're also on the list of people who fight stupidly over it!
IMO if you want to go fight with other canncom mmbers, there's a bunch of violent kids kicking around who are doing a far better job of making stoners look bad than LIP can ever hope to.
Just a suggestion.

[Breukelen advocaat]

lol I guess you're also on the list of people who fight stupidly over it!
IMO if you want to go fight with other canncom mmbers, there's a bunch of violent kids kicking around who are doing a far better job of making stoners look bad than LIP can ever hope to.
Just a suggestion.


All I did was suggest that the word Marijuana sounds better to me than cannabis, and this half-wit, who is approaching 10K posts, says that the word is "racist" - with absolutely no proof at all.

[iwantFUEGO]

I guess that you are also opposed to the word "Marijuana". I also suppose that your "long list of idiots" includes everybody that does not oppose that word, or agree that it is equal to using the "n" word, as your buddy "LIP" thinks.

You know, this stuff will NEVER be legalized as long as stupidity and fighting are so common among the people that are in favor of it.

I didnt add you to the list because you oppose the word "marijuana"...

Quite frankly, i added you to the list of idiots because you ARE an idiot... therefore, that is where you belong...

I mean, just read your posts... its quite evident.

[iwantFUEGO]

Am i allowed to start a "list of idiots" and place it in my signature?


hmm ill go post this question in feedback.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I didnt add you to the list because you oppose the word "marijuana"...

Quite frankly, i added you to the list of idiots because you ARE an idiot... therefore, that is where you belong...

I mean, just read your posts... its quite evident.

Fine - I accept that response better, although I disagree with your conclusion - which is probably based on ignorance.

[LIP]

All I did was suggest that the word Marijuana sounds better to me than cannabis, and this half-wit, who is approaching 10K posts, says that the word is "racist" - with absolutely no proof at all.

You expect me to do you research for you. Look it up. Im sure your not that stupid? Or are you? After what you've posted im not so sure.

One thing is true though. Grow up, stop being so petty, and damnit, READ what i post, and UNDERSTAND it before you go ahead and write the drivel you do and then call it a reply worth reading.

[Breukelen advocaat]

It was a word used to describe the mexican workers or something like that.

And why does it matter it's been around long before me? So has the word nigger but that's still a word used by those racist wankers.

You expect me to do you research for you. Look it up. Im sure your not that stupid? Or are you? After what you've posted im not so sure.

One thing is true though. Grow up, stop being so petty, and damnit, READ what i post, and UNDERSTAND it before you go ahead and write the drivel you do and then call it a reply worth reading.

No, I do NOT expect you to do "research" for me - just provide some proof for your assertions. Remember the burden of proof is on the believer. :D

[LIP]

No, I do NOT expect you to do "research" for me - just provide some proof for your assertions. Remember the burden of proof is on the believer. :D

Forget it, do your own. I cant be bothered wasting my time anymore. You just dont stop droning on and on. Your a boring little man.

You should really go and reflect, because your on your high horse, yet no one thinks your amazing. Self praise means nothing, and it comes across as though thats the only praise you get, coz i cant belive anyone else would give you praise.

[stinkyattic]

All I did was suggest that the word Marijuana sounds better to me than cannabis, and this half-wit, who is approaching 10K posts, says that the word is "racist" - with absolutely no proof at all.
Um... I'm no dummy... I actually have a genius IQ myself... I did not get that meaning from LIP's post.
And I re-read it several times.
Now YOU on the other hand are going around calling everyone on the boards who does not agree with you stupid, in one way or another, as if you have you thesaurus permanently creased open to that page.
The only thing I have learned from you is a handful of somewhat obscure (but unfortunately not creative or even entertaining) ways to tell someone that they have a lesser intelligence than your revered self.
Now please do us all a favor and go piss up a rope.
Thanks in advance.

[Breukelen advocaat]

All this just because I praised the word "Marijuana".

It just doen't add up! ;)

Small minded people are abundent here, that's for sure.

[LIP]

Stinkyattic, we love you! All hail Stinky!

Theres only one person here who is small minded and arrogant. I wonder who it is?

[Breukelen advocaat]

Um... I'm no dummy... I actually have a genius IQ myself... I did not get that meaning from LIP's post.
And I re-read it several times.
Now YOU on the other hand are going around calling everyone on the boards who does not agree with you stupid, in one way or another, as if you have you thesaurus permanently creased open to that page.
The only thing I have learned from you is a handful of somewhat obscure (but unfortunately not creative or even entertaining) ways to tell someone that they have a lesser intelligence than your revered self.
Now please do us all a favor and go piss up a rope.
Thanks in advance.

I would tell you what you could do, but I'd rather take the high road.

As another person here would say, "Have a good one"!

Here is the post that started it all:

I can't relate to the world "Cannabis". Does anybody else prefer "Marijuana"? It's a much prettier name, IMO, and far more well-known.

[LIP]

I would tell you what you could do, but I'd rather take the high road.

As another person here would say, "Have a good one"!

Oh, i wish, i wish that very same mod would just get rid of you, but he's too nice.

[stinkyattic]

I would tell you what you could do, but I'd rather take the high road.
ROFLMAOPMP why don't you just tell me then? You obviously missed the turn for 'the high road' about 3 miles back!

[LIP]

There, another person who knows what they're talking about.

First thing i came across, and i wont be putting anymore links for you.

http://boards.cannabis.com/1223634-post7.html

[Breukelen advocaat]

There, another person who knows what they're talking about.

First thing i came across, and i wont be putting anymore links for you.

http://boards.cannabis.com/1223634-post7.html

Thanks for nothing! :S2:

Here's your "racist" word:

MARIJUANA! MARIJUANA! MARIJUANA!

There! Get me banned. Do your worst! :D

Hope you learned something today.

[LIP]

Thanks for nothing! :S2:

Hmmm, keep proving how childish and arrgoant you are then. You obviously dont need my help to make you look like the idiot you are. You know, i bet 90% of what you claim to know is copied and pasted from the net, and the other 10% are your funny little anecdotes, that, no one really cares for.

You want some real proof? You shouldnt rely on others to do your work.

Everyones laughing at you, not with you. And the way your going, it aint going to stop. :S2: :S2: :S2:

Now stick that in your pipe and choke on it!

[stinkyattic]

Hey LIP the avocado has left the building.

I just don't like the word... urrr.... especially ever since my dad found my ez cloner and asked, "is that mari- hhhhuana?"

BY THE WAY KIDS!!!! I'm almost 30 years old and don't worry I don't live with my parents, lol! My dad was just visiting! :D

[LIP]

Hey LIP the avocado has left the building.

I just don't like the word... urrr.... especially ever since my dad found my ez cloner and asked, "is that mari- hhhhuana?"

BY THE WAY KIDS!!!! I'm almost 30 years old and don't worry I don't live with my parents, lol! My dad was just visiting! :D

Rofl.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Hmmm, keep proving how childish and arrgoant you are then. You obviously dont need my help to make you look like the idiot you are. You know, i bet 90% of what you claim to know is copied and pasted from the net, and the other 10% are your funny little anecdotes, that, no one really cares for.

You want some real proof? You shouldnt rely on others to do your work.

Everyones laughing at you, not with you. And the way your going, it aint going to stop. :S2: :S2: :S2:

Now stick that in your pipe and choke on it!

If you are proud to be with "everyone", you are to be pitied. The crowd is not a thing to identify with, it's those that think differently who deserve notice.

I am glad that I've stirred something up - but sorry that things are such that it's sometimes necessary.

[LIP]

If you are proud to be with "everyone", you are to be pitied. The crowd is not a thing to identify with, it's those that think differently who deserve respect.

Well that's not true. Look at yourself. You think differntly and no one respects you on this site, nor do you deserve it in the slightest. You deserve to be banned, and then ridiculed for months to come.

Anyway, im going to bed. You've bored me so much im actually tired now. Deary me.

Look in the mirror, whats written on your forhead? Idiot?

[Breukelen advocaat]

Well that's not true. Look at yourself. You think differntly and no one respects you on this site, nor do you deserve it in the slightest. You deserve to be banned, and then ridiculed for months to come.

Go ahead, make my day!

Anyway, im going to bed. You've bored me so much im actually tired now. Deary me.
Dreary is your middle name.

Look in the mirror, whats written on your forhead? Idiot?



Have a good sleep. You have a big day ahead of you - once again blundering through life without a clue along with the rest of the sheep.

:cool:

MARIJUANA! MARIJUANA! MARIJUANA!

[stinkyattic]

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

If only you were more like a noble collie rather than a sheltie, good only for herding the geese.

[Breukelen advocaat]

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

If only you were more like a noble collie rather than a sheltie, good only for herding the geese.

Your knowledge of animals is fine, but what is so wrong with the word "marijuana"? That's all I asked, and have not yet received a single useful response.

MARIJUANA! MARIJUANA! MARIJUANA!

To be continued......................................... ...............

[stinkyattic]

Well I'm glad you have a hobby, even if it IS telling the world how smart you are...
Perhaps you should make yourself a sandwich-board to wear on city street corners like the slightly disturbed born-agains who stand and yell the same thing all day...

"I am smart!!!! You are a/an [moron, dummy, idiot, etc.]!!! The end is near!!!! Repent all those who are not as well-read as me!!!

I personally can't give two shits how often you say marijuana.
It's your lame attempts at belittling others that tires me.

[Thepossumdance]

About 9 seconds worth of research later...
From Wikipedia:

The name marijuana (Mexican Spanish marihuana, mariguana) is associated almost exclusively with the plant's psychoactive use. The term is now well known in English largely due to the efforts of American drug prohibitionists during the 1920s and 1930s, which deliberately used a Mexican name for cannabis in order to turn the populace against the idea that it should be legal, playing upon attitudes towards race. (See 1937 Marihuana Tax Act). Those who demonized the drug by calling it marihuana omitted the fact that the "deadly marihuana" was identical to cannabis indica, which had at the time a reputation for pharmaceutical safety.[49]

Now can advocaat GTFO

[Breukelen advocaat]

About 9 seconds worth of research later...
From Wikipedia:

The name marijuana (Mexican Spanish marihuana, mariguana) is associated almost exclusively with the plant's psychoactive use. The term is now well known in English largely due to the efforts of American drug prohibitionists during the 1920s and 1930s, which deliberately used a Mexican name for cannabis in order to turn the populace against the idea that it should be legal, playing upon attitudes towards race. (See 1937 Marihuana Tax Act). Those who demonized the drug by calling it marihuana omitted the fact that the "deadly marihuana" was identical to cannabis indica, which had at the time a reputation for pharmaceutical safety.[49]

Now can advocaat GTFO

Your source also spelled it "marihuana" - which is the "bad" way. That is not the spelling that we used, and is still used: MARIJUANA.

Wikpedia is not an authority on this.

NORM does not use "Cannabis" - they use the "M" word. :cool:

[Thepossumdance]

???? it's the same word you oblivious moron

"Marihuana" was the spelling most commonly used in Federal Government documents at the time. In keeping with prior law, it is still spelled "Marihuana" in some congressional bills such as HR 3037, the Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2005.

The spelling is not the issue it is the use of the word itself.

The word marijuana entered the lexicon via racist motives. The word has most likely moved past the original stigma it was saddled with, but it none the less originated in this manner. Also... you really are a giant dick

[Matt the Funk]

Your source also spelled it "marihuana" - which is the "bad" way. That is not the spelling that we used, and is still used: MARIJUANA.

Wikpedia is not an authority on this.

NORM does not use "Cannabis" - they use the "M" word. :cool:

You aren't different. Just another one of the millions of dicks in the world. Also LIP just gave his opinion, and you flamed him. But, I do prefer the word cannabis when I want to sound "professional" and I say bud when refering to what I am about to smoke.

[Purple Banana]

Not to be outright offensive, but BA, you do tend to come off as a bit pretentious. LIP gives good advice without demeaning people in their tracks....

You might want to be a bit more welcome to new ideas and opinions.

And as an addition, yeah, people still do use "nigger," well, "nigga" both black and white. Even to each others faces, if used in a familiar and comfortable manner, it can be a term of endearment.

I prefer Cannabis. Or herb. Marijuana just is... Eh. Almost like a pathetic joke gone wrong.

[2600HERTZ]

I work at a truck stop after school, and people come in there and say they need fuel for their "reefer". This threw me off for so long, and so I asked one day and apparently it means Refrigerator. Who would've known.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Not to be outright offensive, but BA, you do tend to come off as a bit pretentious. LIP gives good advice without demeaning people in their tracks....

You might want to be a bit more welcome to new ideas and opinions.

And as an addition, yeah, people still do use "nigger," well, "nigga" both black and white. Even to each others faces, if used in a familiar and comfortable manner, it can be a term of endearment.

I prefer Cannabis. Or herb. Marijuana just is... Eh. Almost like a pathetic joke gone wrong.

On the contrary, I think that the word "Cannabis" is a bit pretentious.

Those people that have been involved with it for a long time understand - like NORML, the Million Marijuana March movement, etc. The kids on this board will get it someday, maybe. The next generation will have a new word, to replace Cannabis - or they'll go back to the term Marijuana.

Cannabis is still relatively unused as a term for weed, outside of this board - in the U.S. at least.

[Purple Banana]

It's the original Latin name for it... How is that pretentious?

I use medical cannabis. When people say Marijuana, it tends to be not taken seriously; much more of a joke term than something offensive.

[Breukelen advocaat]

It's the original Latin name for it... How is that pretentious?

I use medical cannabis. When people say Marijuana, it tends to be not taken seriously; much more of a joke term than something offensive.



The reason that you have "medical cannabis" is partially due to the efforts of the organizations, groups, doctors and individuals that have been working for years on changing the laws and raising public awareness. Just about all of them, especially the organizations, have used the word Marijuana - at least from my perspective.

I doubt that they would have been more successful with "Cannabis". It's too confusing and, on top of everything else, weâ??ve now got the "Hemp" marketing and research. Although this fiber does not contain THC, people have been generally associating it with Marijuana.

Call it whatever you want, but just don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

[Purple Banana]

I don't have medicinal cannabis because it'e legal. It's illegal in my state. I grow it myself. I appreciate those who fought for others rights, but in all respect, what the hell does that have to do with the etymology of the word? I'm sure they all have THEIR own preference of using the word, so what is your point?

[Breukelen advocaat]

I don't have medicinal cannabis because it'e legal. It's illegal in my state. I grow it myself. I appreciate those who fought for others rights, but in all respect, what the hell does that have to do with the etymology of the word? I'm sure they all have THEIR own preference of using the word, so what is your point?

It's illegal mostly everywhere, but I'm sure that we can agree that many people get away with small amounts for personal use - medical or otherwise.

The whole argument about the word Marijuana being "racist", and otherwise derogatory, is bullshit. That's my point.

[Purple Banana]

...

What I'm saying is, each person has their own word for everyone. You're demeaning the usage of a so-called pretentious word, yet blasting those who disagree with the word Marijuana as uneducated idiots.

I can understand you disagreeing with their opinions, but it'd be nice if you didn't act so arrogant when you do it. Respect people's preferences, and try to have an intelligent conversation without turning it into a witch hunt bitchfest.

[ZedRULES]

:cool: Who give's a rats ass what you call it...I call it my BEST FRIEND:S4::S2:

[Breukelen advocaat]

...

What I'm saying is, each person has their own word for everyone. You're demeaning the usage of a so-called pretentious word, yet blasting those who disagree with the word Marijuana as uneducated idiots.

I can understand you disagreeing with their opinions, but it'd be nice if you didn't act so arrogant when you do it. Respect people's preferences, and try to have an intelligent conversation without turning it into a witch hunt bitchfest.

I had no problems with other people's opinions until this came up:


Marijuana is racist. Cannabis is it's REAL name, and it's the name i .... it's the name i.... it's the name.

Marijuana sounds bad, and it sounds like how the Authorities would call it.

Marijuana is a Racist word.

This is total bullshit. Total.

[Thepossumdance]

The word marijuana has racist roots there is no arguing about that. If it is still seen as a racist term is very debatable. It's very debatable because there is no way to prove it one way or the other... so, ya....

[Purple Banana]

Well boo hoo! So it's total bullshit? Good for you, having your opinion and the like...

I can't believe LIP's statement made you abandon your usual arrogance, and made you act like a complete child... I mean hell, I'm as childish as can be sometimes, but I'm mature enough to admit it, and not act like such a stuffed shirt about it.

Grow up. I'm done here...

[Oneironaut]

I'm not a big fan of calling it marihuana/marijuana, if only because that word was popularized by Harry Anslinger in his attempts to get it associated with the Mexicans, who he clearly viewed as inferior beings.

I like the word "cannabis", and I regret that it is not very familiar to English speakers (it is widely used in other languages though like French and German). "Cannabis" is a very old word whose origins can be traced back to the ancient Scythian language. It was borrowed into the Proto-Indo-European language, which would later develop into most of the modern languages between Iceland and Bangladesh (excluding the Arab and Turkic peoples and a couple others). From the Proto-Indo-European word which probably sounded like "kanab" we get the Greek word "kannabis", the Latin word "cannabis", the Spanish word "cáñamo", the French word "chanvre", the English word "hemp", the Dutch word "hennep", the German word "Hanf", the Russian word "konoplya", the Persian word "kanab", and a whole bunch more. In fact, the English word "canvas" also comes from the word "cannabis", because it used to be that all canvases were made out of cannabis.

[Thepossumdance]

oh shit... you just got told mother fucker... F'ed in the A for real

PS I am 8yrs old lol

:S5:

[LIP]

God, Breukelen advocaat, you are the most childish "older" member on this site.

Your posts are just humerous, there's nothing worthy of reading in any of them.

You've been given information, and you think it's wrong. You've been given proof, you think its wrong. You've been given OTHER peoples opinion, and you think their wrong.

Are you ill? Have you got some sort of problem? Because you seem to be delusional.

You think your right 100% of the time, but 99% of the time your wrong.

Admit your wrong, and that will be the end of it.

But no, you cant do that can you. You'll keep arguing untill either you get banned or this thread gets deleted.

People call me pig headed knowitall, they obviously havnt seen you.

Like i said before, self praise means NOTHING, and thats all your getting.

Your a joke. Just give up, you know your wrong. It's pathetic to see someone of your age acting so arogantly, blantantly disagreeing with fact. You are a true idiot.

The annyoing kids on this site are less arogant than you. Does that tell you something? People like you arnt welcome.

Not only that, but i find it hard to belive anyone as arogant as you has any friends, hell, who'd want to be friends with a moron who cant admit he's wrong.

I wouldnt last 5 minutes before walking out and telling you where to shove your so called "knowledge" .... Knowledge my ass, life hasnt taught you a single thing.

[stinkyattic]

I'm not a big fan of calling it marihuana/marijuana, if only because that word was popularized by Harry Anslinger in his attempts to get it associated with the Mexicans, who he clearly viewed as inferior beings.

...... "Cannabis" is a very old word whose origins can be traced back to the ancient Scythian language. ...... In fact, the English word "canvas" also comes from the word "cannabis", because it used to be that all canvases were made out of cannabis.

Very nice and useful lesson on the etymology of cannabis! And good backup of LIP's original hunch.

Rep to you bro!

BTW I call it cannabis because that's what Carl Linnaeus classified it as... my garden plants have their Latin names on their tags... why should the sacred Herb be any different? For example, my Afghans are "Cannabis indica L. var. "Afghani Dream".

This thread is hysterical!!!!

[geonagual]

Oh yeah, I like the word herb too. My friend always calls it chronic.

Did some post just get deleted?

[Breukelen advocaat]

Hereâ??s some more information, but I canâ??t vouch for historical accuracy. I believe that the word pre-dates Anslingerâ??s use of it in the mid-1930's.




The origin of the word marijuana is unclear. One scholar suggests it derives from mariguango, Portuguese for "intoxicant". Another scholar thinks it came from "Maria y Juana", Mexican slang for soldiers and whores in the era of Pancho Villa.


Another claimed it originated from the name of a brand of cheap Mexican cigarettes which bore a picture of a young girl (Marijuana = "Mary-Jane") on the packet.

Whatever its origin, marijuana is the word by which Americans have come to know Cannabis sativa, which most of the world calls "Indian hemp".

The mexican slang word Marijuana, also spelt Marihuana was unknown to most americans until newspaper headlines first introduced its name in the 1920s.

Source: Marijuana Seeds By NSB (http://www.marijuana-cannabis-seeds.co.uk/marijuana-seeds.asp)

[geonagual]

I like to use the word "weed" too. I like that one a lot. Don't like "grass" that much.

[Natural Revolution]

On the contrary, I think that the word "Cannabis" is a bit pretentious.

Those people that have been involved with it for a long time understand - like NORML, the Million Marijuana March movement, etc. The kids on this board will get it someday, maybe. The next generation will have a new word, to replace Cannabis - or they'll go back to the term Marijuana.

Cannabis is still relatively unused as a term for weed, outside of this board - in the U.S. at least.

lmfao!!!!! Are you serious??

Cannabis is the latin scientific name for the plant, derived from the hebrew word Kaneh Bosm, which translates to "fragrant cane". Cannabis was also the term used to classify in the U.S. Pharmacopeia until the 1930s when they wanted to make it illegal to clear the way for synthetics. Cannabis was the word that the American public was familiar with on any level. Well it would be pretty hard to demonize a substance that people were already familiar with right?

Marijuana was the term used by Harry Anslinger, a man who was openly racist about Mexican immigrants and Black people. He used this word to associate Cannabis with the workers, who were generally considered dirty savages that threatened the American way of life. The word Marijuana in itself is not racist, but it's intent and application SURELY are. And there is absolutely nothing pretentious about the word Cannabis, sorry bro but you are wrong.

[friendowl]

it sounds great when people say "lets smoke some BUD"

anyone who says pot,or cannabis,wacky tobacky, is too weird for me

[Natural Revolution]

If I'm talking about it in a scientific, medical, or political context I tend to say Cannabis.

With my friends or whatever its herb, smoke, fire, cryp, or nugs

[Breukelen advocaat]

lmfao!!!!! Are you serious??

Cannabis is the latin scientific name for the plant, derived from the hebrew word Kaneh Bosm, which translates to "fragrant cane". Cannabis was also the term used to classify in the U.S. Pharmacopeia until the 1930s when they wanted to make it illegal to clear the way for synthetics. Cannabis was the word that the American public was familiar with on any level. Well it would be pretty hard to demonize a substance that people were already familiar with right?

Marijuana was the term used by Harry Anslinger, a man who was openly racist about Mexican immigrants and Black people. He used this word to associate Cannabis with the workers, who were generally considered dirty savages that threatened the American way of life. The word Marijuana in itself is not racist, but it's intent and application SURELY are. And there is absolutely nothing pretentious about the word Cannabis, sorry bro but you are wrong.

Listen, I think that the following organizations are very qualified, very "serious", and use the term Marijuana:

National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws
Marijuana Law Reform - NORML (http://www.norml.org/)


Global Marijuana March
2007 Global Marijuana March (http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org/)
Global Marijuana March - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Marijuana_March)

If you have a problem with them as well, then so be it.



BTW, Harry J. Anslinger wasn't the first to go against Marijuana: A very good â??drug warâ?� site: Why is Marijuana Illegal? (http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html)

However, the first state law outlawing marijuana did so not because of Mexicans using the drug. Oddly enough, it was because of Mormons using it. Mormons who traveled to Mexico in 1910 came back to Salt Lake City with marijuana. The church was not pleased and ruled against use of the drug. Since the state of Utah automatically enshrined church doctrine into law, the first state marijuana prohibition was established in 1915. (Today, Senator Orrin Hatch serves as the prohibition arm of this heavily church-influenced state.)
Other states quickly followed suit with marijuana prohibition laws, including Wyoming (1915), Texas (1919), Iowa (1923), Nevada (1923), Oregon (1923), Washington (1923), Arkansas (1923), and Nebraska (1927). These laws tended to be specifically targeted against the Mexican-American population.
When Montana outlawed marijuana in 1927, the Butte Montana Standard reported a legislator's comment: "When some beet field peon takes a few traces of this stuff... he thinks he has just been elected president of Mexico, so he starts out to execute all his political enemies." In Texas, a senator said on the floor of the Senate: "All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy."

[Natural Revolution]

Where did I say I have a problem with the word? I don't, and use it myself on occasion. And the main reason I think groups like NORML use it is because it is the most widely known term.

[Natural Revolution]

Dude, that link is a salon.com blog. I am under the impression that CO was the first state to outlaw mj?

[LIP]

I still dont belive it. I still think your wrong. And i still think your an idiot for acting so childishly.

[gornik]

The word "marijuana" or "marihuana", depending on your preference, was used to denigrate the plant and the
Mexican immigrants who grew it for fun and profit back in the thirties. William Randolph Hearst, Sr, was on a campaign to oust Mexican immigrants while at the same time bad-mouthing their herb of choice. This served two purposes: to criminalize the Mexicans while at the same time casting a reefer madness spotlight on the herb itself. To this extent, Lip is right. And to the extent of Hearst's slander, we find it to this day.

A good reference for historical accounts is The Marijuana Papers by David Soloman, published in the late sixties, and is probably around today in some used book stalls or libraries.

This is for Hearts :S4: May he burn in hell.

[iwantFUEGO]

I had no problems with other people's opinions until this came up:



This is total bullshit. Total.

What is this guy talking about???

Give me a break... and you claim to be educated??

Cannabis sativa.... Cannabis indica.... These are official phylogenic names.

Marijuana is a SLANG name. It ALWAYS has been.

Get your facts straight kid.

[gornik]

I don't want to beat this to death, but here's a direct quote from a site on Hearst:

Starting with his role in the Spanish-American war, when a Spanish army captured a timberland wood belonging to Hearst, he nurtured a deep hatred against "those lazy pot-smoking Spaniards and Mexicans." In 1936-38, the Hearst newspapers led a fierce campaign against marihuana (probably for the first time introducing this word in the English language), claiming it led to violence, and laying the groundwork for the American drugs policy of today.

Here's the link: William Randolph Hearst (http://lambiek.net/artists/h/hearst_wr.htm)

[gornik]

:D And just for the record, here's a Wikipedia page on our favorite smoke, and its many names:

Cannabis (drug) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana)

[Natural Revolution]

welp, that solves that I guess

[Thepossumdance]

Lol this mother fucker just cant admit that he's wrong... ever

[make it legal]

Yeah, man. You really do tend to start a lot of fights. You should really just relax, honestly. People come here to have discussions/debates, not flame wars. Almost every thread you post in seems to end in one.

[Niglet187um]

Harry J. Anslinger wasn't racist, well at least to the extent of my knowledge. What I do know is that the South-Western states did not like Mexicans because they did cheap labor. At this time you have to realize the Great Depression was in session, since Mexicans worked cheap Americans were not getting hired so they became racist. During all this Mexicans smoked Cannabis and they themselves called it Marijuana. So with a mixture of all this crazy shennanigins, the South-Western states urged Harry to do something about, they used to Cannabis as a scape goat saying it made Mexicans commit crime and things of that nature. So the states decided to prohibit Cannabis, so the Mexicans would be driven out the Great ol' free United States of America. Since Mexicans called Cannabis Marijuana the media used the name as a way to make people realize Mexicans used this stuff. The hatred for Mexicans, Black Jazz musicians, and a naive Harry lead to the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937.

[SonicBloom]

Smoke.

[ReUp]

I watched a documentary on the history of cannabis and it is a racist term. It originated when cannabis wasn't around in the US but mainly brought in by the Mexican immigrants who had a slang term for it. 'Marijuana' was one of the terms they used and the government decided to make it official to link it to those 'dirty Mexican immigrants.' The term nowadays is not seen as racist but its origins truly are.

Some people like LIP decide to take it as racist which is completely legitimate. So when you use it it may seem fine to you but during the time period when it was named it was indeed a term used to incite racial slander and in general give it a bad name. Cannabis is a much more clean and scientific name bearing no bad history.

To answer your question I call it 'bud' or 'weed' 99% of the time and use cannabis mainly when talking about the plant in its plant stage and not to the cannabis I buy and smoke.

[poiuyt]

I hate when people call it 'pot'

[suhl]

who the hell says hey lets smoke some marijuana or hey lets smoke some cannabis. the only time either term gets used is if you are writing a paper or if you are a cop, no one means anything racist when they say marijuana whether the roots are or not. getting mad over people calling it marijuana is just unwanted stress. of course i feel the same way about agknowledging most racism.

[madeline]

I use "cannabis" whenever discussing our favorite and most useful plant of all for the reasons already listed above.