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benagain
01-30-2007, 11:28 PM
I wasn't sure if this went in the hobby forum or here, but anyway: what's everyone think of windows vista? Anyone planning on going for the upgrade? It looks sweet on those big plasmas on tv, but I need some upgrades before I can give it a try. Discuss.

nikweiser
01-30-2007, 11:30 PM
heard it sucks for gaming, but everything looks amazing i guess...
i still need to research it a bit

shilling
01-30-2007, 11:40 PM
I'm going to wait for them to release Vista "Service Pack 2" before installing it. Had a beta copy running, looked like a pimped up XP Pro. Personally, I'm beginning to get ino linux. the newer distributions are very very good, compatiblity with lots and lots of hardware. And it's FREE!:)

benagain
01-30-2007, 11:42 PM
I'm going to wait for them to release Vista "Service Pack 2" before installing it. Had a beta copy running, looked like a pimped up XP Pro. Personally, I'm beginning to get ino linux. the newer distributions are very very good, compatiblity with lots and lots of hardware. And it's FREE!:)

Yea, I've heard of a lot of people moving to linux lately. I've tried it out a few times and it was ok. Still too much work for me to just sit down and play.

JaggedEdge
01-31-2007, 01:04 AM
Have you heard of Mac OSX. It is nearly an exact copy of what is on my apple. Sorry I hate microsoft, but had to sell out for the 360.

benagain
01-31-2007, 01:09 AM
Have you heard of Mac OSX. It is nearly an exact copy of what is on my apple. Sorry I hate microsoft, but had to sell out for the 360.

Yea, if I could afford to have a mac I would. I just can't stand paying for software when there's so many freeware ones out there that work even better. If I ever hit the lotto or something, you bet your sweet ass I'd have a mac with me at all times. I just can't afford the software I need for work on a mac :o

JunkYard
01-31-2007, 01:13 AM
I just bought a new desktop with a free vista upgrade, so I'm gonna czech it out soon. I'll let you know if it's worth anything. :thumbsup:

JaggedEdge
01-31-2007, 01:21 AM
Yea, if I could afford to have a mac I would. I just can't stand paying for software when there's so many freeware ones out there that work even better. If I ever hit the lotto or something, you bet your sweet ass I'd have a mac with me at all times. I just can't afford the software I need for work on a mac :o

They have gone down on price, my macbook didn't cost anymore than a mid range windows lap top. I'm not a huge mac fan, I have come to the conclusion all computers suck...

mfqr
01-31-2007, 01:23 AM
Screw Vista. They're going to have special built-in things in the OS itself which helps protect against software piracy and music piracy (not that it can't be thwarted... but it's bullshit nonetheless). Fuck that. I'll stick with FreeBSD, NetBSD, Gentoo Linux, and Windows XP. Though, Vista does LOOK nice, I don't like the restricting ideas.

Skink
01-31-2007, 01:24 AM
I will let the masses decide,,,I'm not loosing XP anytime soon...

2600HERTZ
01-31-2007, 01:35 AM
It doesn't suck for gaming, it requires more gpu processing speed and mem. But it configures itself to your system and the features that require this extra speed can be turned off. I will get it(im a bit of a computer geek) but ima pirate it, fuck paying.

It also isn;t anywhere near an exact copy of what is on OSX. M$ is offering the ability to use vista on macs by the way(a genius move).

hewhispers
01-31-2007, 01:46 AM
Give it a year. Or two. Or just wait until you get a PC with it pre-installed.

This is Micro$oft, we are, after all talking about,
the company that coined the phrase "security patch" ???

mfqr
01-31-2007, 01:49 AM
It doesn't suck for gaming, it requires more gpu processing speed and mem. But it configures itself to your system and the features that require this extra speed can be turned off. I will get it(im a bit of a computer geek) but ima pirate it, fuck paying.

It also isn;t anywhere near an exact copy of what is on OSX. M$ is offering the ability to use vista on macs by the way(a genius move).

du0d, 3y3'm m0r3 0f a c0mput3r g33k th4n yu0.
g00d 3y3-d34 4b0ut pir8'ing it, s1nc3 1t'z n0t g0ing tw0 b3 w0rth th3 m0n3y 4nyw4y.

The Reffer
01-31-2007, 01:52 AM
vista came out last nite at 12 and its $400

ju99al0b0mb3r
01-31-2007, 01:53 AM
I Get It For Free

=]

Skink
01-31-2007, 02:00 AM
I Get It For Free

=]

Were you a beta tester???

ju99al0b0mb3r
01-31-2007, 02:09 AM
Nah

I Bought A Laptop And I Get A Free Upgrade Lol

Skink
01-31-2007, 02:24 AM
Nah

I Bought A Laptop And I Get A Free Upgrade Lol

OK cool if it were free for me I would try it but ,,, Ima not pay 4 beans for it...

Baker3
01-31-2007, 02:40 AM
I got a new gateway notebook from bestby for christmas and it comes with a free upgrade to vista. Not the core upgrade thought the full vista upgrade but, i want to upgrade my ram first before i upgrade to it since my computer only came with 1gig

2600HERTZ
01-31-2007, 03:33 AM
du0d, 3y3'm m0r3 0f a c0mput3r g33k th4n yu0.
g00d 3y3-d34 4b0ut pir8'ing it, s1nc3 1t'z n0t g0ing tw0 b3 w0rth th3 m0n3y 4nyw4y.

IRALOL?

JunkYard
01-31-2007, 04:03 AM
I just tried to order my free vista upgrade and I had trouble with the COP; it wouldn't let me finish, lol. I gotta try again in about three hours. They send it throught the mail, and you have to pay shipping $9.95, but that beats the hell outta 4 bills...

benagain
01-31-2007, 04:12 AM
Yea. I'm not gonna be paying that for it anytime soon. After I get my rig upgraded the way I want I may pitch the idea of the upgrade to the work peeps. Maybe they will re-imburse. Prolly not.

JunkYard
01-31-2007, 04:15 AM
I wouldn't count on it, but it's worth a try, eh?

benagain
01-31-2007, 04:17 AM
It sure is. I know they're not gonna buy a Wii for me, so I gotta try and squeeze some more blood out of the stone one way or the other :cool:

JunkYard
01-31-2007, 04:25 AM
I gotta do it before a certain time, or the offer is void, then I'll have to shell out 4 bills just to get it.

What kind of Desktop did you get, man? I got a Gateway GT5224. So far so good. It sure beats my old Dell deminsion, lol!

Harry Pot Head
01-31-2007, 12:20 PM
Why should i join the hoard of Sheep jumping off a cliff :confused:

M$ Windoze Vista is a DRM riddled pile of stinking bloatware :toilet_claw:

I have only gone as far as win XP Pro and win2k. :D

I my self are going for a nice shiny mac pro :cool:

I just change/upgrade my computer about every 5-6 years
So i don't mind the expense but vista was the final straw with its
massive overhead on the hardware/DRM :bonghit:

I was a long time windows user but M$ now is realy gone for a crap with this stinker. :eek:

I have started playing with a Mac and it seems great for what i need. :cool:

Which is recording and mixing music :stoned:

So i will be one of the switch crowd :D

EmoRebellion
01-31-2007, 12:52 PM
I have it installed on one of my machines at home (I have several :o ), and I actually like it so far. I dont like the fact that you cant do a "clean" install with an upgrade license.

HeyItsMe
01-31-2007, 08:17 PM
I read somewhere on digg.com, that you can add flash dirve memory sticks and use it as ram, with the new Vista.

Skink
01-31-2007, 08:26 PM
I have it installed on one of my machines at home (I have several :o ), and I actually like it so far. I dont like the fact that you cant do a "clean" install with an upgrade license.

I am wondering what kind of hoops we have to jump through to reinstall... I tinker a lot with my computers and secure wipe the HD's a lot... it is miserable having to call india to activate my freakin copy of XP...

thebeancounter41
01-31-2007, 10:10 PM
From what I heard, you only get 2 installs with the key that comes with the cd.After that you're shit out of luck if you need to reinstall vista.Gates expects you to shell out a few bills more for a new license key.And the last beta version of Vista looked slick, but was nothing but a resource WHORE in my opinion.I have 2gigs of ram and a athlon64X2 dual core CPU and vista sucked up 25% of my ram and 15% of my CPU just running the desktop and my normal startup programs like antivirus and firewall.
XP Pro uses less than 8% of my CPU for the same situation and about 8% of my ram.

SwirlyMass
01-31-2007, 11:11 PM
From what I heard, you only get 2 installs with the key that comes with the cd.After that you're shit out of luck if you need to reinstall vista.Gates expects you to shell out a few bills more for a new license key.And the last beta version of Vista looked slick, but was nothing but a resource WHORE in my opinion.I have 2gigs of ram and a athlon64X2 dual core CPU and vista sucked up 25% of my ram and 15% of my CPU just running the desktop and my normal startup programs like antivirus and firewall.
XP Pro uses less than 8% of my CPU for the same situation and about 8% of my ram.

if true, i think we have a new record for lameness.

fuck all these giant companies who just want to make something flashy so people will buy it and they will make tons of cash for making a shitty product that everyone wants simply because of the hype.

Nation_1ne
01-31-2007, 11:16 PM
I'll move to Vista when the whole digital rights feature is removed, if it doesn't budge then I'll keep an XP computer and Vista computer. I'll most likely use the Vista one for gaming, keep in mind by this time most games will be based on Vista. I'll keep my XP computer for all my other bits and bobs.

Nation_1ne
01-31-2007, 11:20 PM
Have you heard of Mac OSX. It is nearly an exact copy of what is on my apple. Sorry I hate microsoft, but had to sell out for the 360.

Windows is far more flexible than Mac. The way I see it Mac's are purely specialist computers used for Art and Music, anyone who buys one for anything else is a fool in my opinion. I'm a graphic designer myself (on the road to being one anyway) and I use Windows and find it perfectly fine to use. Although I have a friend who studies music at University and swears by Macs for that sort of thing.

Stryker420
01-31-2007, 11:22 PM
In my opion I would tell everyone to wait atleased another year to upgrade to vista. Im a PC Tech and know my work very well, I myself will wait awhile for this upgrade if at all. If you remember back when XP first came out it had many bugs till the updates starting comming out a year later. I went to the Microsoft convetion and got the hole overview on Vista and to tell ya the truth nothing amazing about it. Just another bugy operating system, give it some time.

Toupee
03-20-2007, 08:19 AM
I'm dualbooting Vista and XP currently.

I do actually like the Aero theme a fair bit. I could give or take the "special effects", but the smoky glass is a nice neutral skin.

My favorite part is definitely the file manager. It's sooo improved! With breadbox navigation, customizable shortcuts (finally), and a whole shitload of flexibility in viewing files. I like it. Puts XP's to major shame.

But that's about it. I like Chess Titans. Shadow Copies is a cool idea that I really doubt I'll ever find myself using. The fast searching is very nice, but I rarely need it. Hmm.

Oh, yeah, the Flip-3D thing? It's dumb. And anyone saying it's a ripoff of Mac OSX for that (or anything else in general) is ridiculous. This is by and large Windows; refined, but hardly changed. It doesn't even aesthetically look like OSX.

On a related note, I am REALLY fond of the new Office 07 and the new ribbon design. (It would be nice if the ribbons were more customizable but since you can actually make your own tabs with a bit of work already, I'm sure it's only a matter of time.)

slipknotpsycho
03-20-2007, 08:09 PM
alot of uneeded security... i swear, at every turn it asks you for permission, even askes permission to ask permission lol... it kinda gets annoying, but you get used to it really quick.

erm, it has small compatibility issues with a wide arrange of programs... usually solved just by going to properties and checking off "run compatible with windows xp sp2." with one game so far (out fo quite a few) i have to right click and click run as administrator" to get the game to work right, but other then that, games really have no problems.

it has alot of bugs... they can be pretty annoying... i've told them in another thread (windows vista bugs), nothing really major tho, a simple restart takes care of 'em. there's been a few updates but not much... so i'd still hold off if you could o.0

Prunedale
03-20-2007, 08:43 PM
I'm dualbooting Vista and XP currently.

I do actually like the Aero theme a fair bit. I could give or take the "special effects", but the smoky glass is a nice neutral skin.

My favorite part is definitely the file manager. It's sooo improved! With breadbox navigation, customizable shortcuts (finally), and a whole shitload of flexibility in viewing files. I like it. Puts XP's to major shame.

But that's about it. I like Chess Titans. Shadow Copies is a cool idea that I really doubt I'll ever find myself using. The fast searching is very nice, but I rarely need it. Hmm.

Oh, yeah, the Flip-3D thing? It's dumb. And anyone saying it's a ripoff of Mac OSX for that (or anything else in general) is ridiculous. This is by and large Windows; refined, but hardly changed. It doesn't even aesthetically look like OSX.

On a related note, I am REALLY fond of the new Office 07 and the new ribbon design. (It would be nice if the ribbons were more customizable but since you can actually make your own tabs with a bit of work already, I'm sure it's only a matter of time.)

New graphics don't make new OS. Gates is losin.. Its all about the google open source OS. WOOT Go GOogle FUck windows

Prunedale
03-20-2007, 08:45 PM
Windows is far more flexible than Mac. The way I see it Mac's are purely specialist computers used for Art and Music, anyone who buys one for anything else is a fool in my opinion. I'm a graphic designer myself (on the road to being one anyway) and I use Windows and find it perfectly fine to use. Although I have a friend who studies music at University and swears by Macs for that sort of thing.

Spoken from a pc user.. I'm a heavy PC gamer. Built from ground up always. Once I got on my dual g5 with 97 inches of screen all around me... There was NO comparison.. Tiger whips xp's/vistas ass AND its yesterdays OS. Leopard is expected to be popular out of the gate. So being a PC guy, I bow to the macs power, Yes specializing in video, audio, and graphic work, but why would you use a pc if you have a power horse. Good luck rendering on a pc.

Amun
03-22-2007, 02:08 AM
fuck it.

its over priced, requires most everyone to upgrade their hardware cause most people dont have that much of RAM or that fast of a CPU....and really the only difference ive noticed is looks and some random things that are 'neat'....nothing too...functional. Linux still wins out. But the reason i WONT be using it is because their extra 'security' layer. It looks suspicious and with their level of 'security', i wouldnt touch it or trust it. ever.

Nightcrewman
04-19-2007, 11:36 AM
I wasn't sure if this went in the hobby forum or here, but anyway: what's everyone think of windows vista? Anyone planning on going for the upgrade? It looks sweet on those big plasmas on tv, but I need some upgrades before I can give it a try. Discuss.
Vista looks good and there it ends its a total fucking nightmare on our new laptop, as soon as we can find out how we are getting it off our machine.

bluntblaze
04-19-2007, 12:01 PM
i got vista with a new laptop i got a few weeks ago and its not really that differant. i know piss all about comp's but it just seems the same apart from a few things.
its not bad but i wouldn't pay for it. also i havent had any problems with it.

babystarbud
04-20-2007, 05:49 AM
it will be great once all the teething probs are sorted, ive not upgraded and have no intention in the near future, too many issues and to much overhead.

my friend recently built a rig based around an overclocked 6300 and a top of the line dx9 ati card, also clocked, he has no end of crashes and issues mainly down to ati driver compatability, but hes got vista for when it eventually gets some support..

guess what, hes now running xp-pro and it runs like lightning!

slipknotpsycho
04-20-2007, 08:49 AM
vista for me had ALOT of start up programs and crap... after i turned all of teh startup crap off, like other then OS and the stuff i really need it runs ok.

still gets alot of errors.... but the more serious ones (which involve having to restart) usually only start showing up after the pc's been on for a long time, or under alot of stress (alot of programs going)

bluntblaze
04-20-2007, 09:18 AM
vista for me had ALOT of start up programs and crap... after i turned all of teh startup crap off, like other then OS and the stuff i really need it runs ok.

still gets alot of errors.... but the more serious ones (which involve having to restart) usually only start showing up after the pc's been on for a long time, or under alot of stress (alot of programs going)same here..... it was a pain in the ass.

GHoSToKeR
04-20-2007, 01:07 PM
Meh.. buy the time I can afford a new PC with Vista, or buy the time I even consider getting Vista, I woulda bought a Mac anyway.. The G5 is HOT :D

Diary of a Madman
04-20-2007, 01:09 PM
EVERY 5 FUCKING YEARS, THIS BULLSHIT HAPPENS TO ME.

all the new OS means is, My computer will be exactly the same when I upgrade except I wont be able to find "my computer" or "recycling bin" for a week, I will have to get all new software, including an Autocad station for work. Sounds awesome!

I get sick of this moronic bullshit they cram up our ass, their selling points which are all total bullshit!

Protect yourself against this and that! SpyWAre!! Spam! Download music easier! Y2k! A camera comes installed on your computer!! In case you are such a fucking moron that you cant plug in a usb cable, even though this is supposedly YOUR computer!!! What do those people's videos look like? Them just sitting on the floor rolling in their own shit yelling "DDDDDAAAAAAAHH!". Makes rolling in your own shit one click easier!

Its like banks and their fraud protection they go on and on about, that noone ever needs to pay for, but I hear that shit 100 times a day.

station
04-20-2007, 03:41 PM
Screw Vista. They're going to have special built-in things in the OS itself which helps protect against software piracy and music piracy (not that it can't be thwarted... but it's bullshit nonetheless). Fuck that. I'll stick with FreeBSD, NetBSD, Gentoo Linux, and Windows XP. Though, Vista does LOOK nice, I don't like the restricting ideas.

this man is right. so FUCK vista...ill stick with what i got. works perfect. so i see no need to change. did i already say fuck vista?? oh ya i did :thumbsup:

slipknotpsycho
04-20-2007, 09:02 PM
actually, i read that stuff too.... but i got vista, as i said, there really is nothing like that... i still say don't get vista yet if you can avoid it... cuz the buggy ness is quite aggervating at times...

Bree1978
04-23-2007, 06:04 PM
I got vista...not a whole lot of problems...but I don't do very much either (cannabis.com ebay, email). I had autocad on my last pc, I've opted to not install it yet.... I tried to find a new pc with XP on it instead, but the only place that had them was TigerDirect, and refurbished not new...those were more expensive than the vista..i guess do to demand. So I opted for the cheaper route.....

In conclusion, if you do a bunch of stuff with your pc and it is still working okay, stick with your old one for awhile, till all the software makers catch up with vista. If you are like me and don't do anything that you rely on terribly and it just happens to take a shit-go ahead, it's not that bad, get the vista.

I've had it a few months.

:jointsmile: Bree


Edit: I've never had the illegal operation, must shut down message...YET, KNOCK ON WOOD

I did make the computer stop asking me about every Fuckin' thing I open though, as best as I could

JamaicanHerbMan
05-02-2007, 06:01 AM
I've checked it out and it looks ok but microsoft always has a bunch of screw-ups which we always pay for. I'll stick with XP and a Vista theme pack for now, until they get there bugs sorted out. And until some hacker get under those codes.

slipknotpsycho
05-02-2007, 02:34 PM
I got vista...not a whole lot of problems...but I don't do very much either (cannabis.com ebay, email). I had autocad on my last pc, I've opted to not install it yet.... I tried to find a new pc with XP on it instead, but the only place that had them was TigerDirect, and refurbished not new...those were more expensive than the vista..i guess do to demand. So I opted for the cheaper route.....

In conclusion, if you do a bunch of stuff with your pc and it is still working okay, stick with your old one for awhile, till all the software makers catch up with vista. If you are like me and don't do anything that you rely on terribly and it just happens to take a shit-go ahead, it's not that bad, get the vista.

I've had it a few months.

:jointsmile: Bree


Edit: I've never had the illegal operation, must shut down message...YET, KNOCK ON WOOD

I did make the computer stop asking me about every Fuckin' thing I open though, as best as I could

how'd you do that? cuz it is quite fucking annoying... somethings it'll even ask you up to 3 seperate times if you're sure/aware/w/e of what you're opening...

JamaicanHerbMan
05-02-2007, 03:55 PM
how'd you do that? cuz it is quite fucking annoying... somethings it'll even ask you up to 3 seperate times if you're sure/aware/w/e of what you're opening...

Awww another buggi, they always want to keep us out of the goodstuff

Turtlepik
05-03-2007, 08:39 AM
If you're thinking about upgrading to Vista, you need to check that all of your hardware and software is Vista compatible. I had to change to alternate programs for most of the shit I do, including antivirus and firewall, and I hate changing firewalls. Also, some older hardware isn't fully supported. I can't even get Vista drivers for my Radeon 9250. Having to stick with the XP drivers, and fuck knows what's up with my sound card...

sjmikenet
05-03-2007, 05:20 PM
After trying Vista, there is *no way* in hell that I would upgrade to it. The copy that I was testing on two of my machines here at my office were *very* slow after loading Vista, and one of these were rendered literally useless, even after disabling the Aero interface to help speed things up. I ended up reimaging both boxes and reloading XP Pro which works very smooth as before.

I am considering buying an XPS Notebook from Dell, but I want it with XP Pro, NOT Vista. If I can't have Vista, then I will just buy a used one on eBay that has XP, or I have to re-image the new machine on arrival from Dell. It might just be cheaper to buy a used notebook anyway. The XPS notebooks rock, BTW!

Also, Vista contains all the DRM crap, TONS of security alerts, etc, etc... These are more reasons to avoid it at all costs! Why support a product which fosters content restrictions and the ability to play high-def DVD's which are not "approved" by M$?

For me, I am sticking with XP. It's tried, true, and works great. :)

Turtlepik
05-24-2007, 11:04 AM
Also, Vista contains all the DRM crap, TONS of security alerts, etc, etc... These are more reasons to avoid it at all costs! Why support a product which fosters content restrictions and the ability to play high-def DVD's which are not "approved" by M$?

You can disable all the security alerts and shit like that, you know?

sharingscaring
05-24-2007, 06:49 PM
Ive been running vista for 2 months now. The only major conflicts ive had have been resolved by running all software as an administrator. Still running xp pro on my desktop. SP2 should elimanate all the liitle glitches but other than that it works great(allthough i do not like microsofts privacy and lisc agreements) If any one has issues pm and try to help

khanser
09-05-2007, 09:10 AM
SONY VAIO, WINDOWS VISTA.............AND A J........WHAT CAN I SAY.

doublefatstrat
09-15-2007, 05:55 PM
I haven't bothered to read the entirety of this thread, but I personally find Windows Vista to be a load of BS.
If all you're doing is like, Internet, word processing etc, there's absolutely no use in a fuckin' expensive OS that overall just makes everyday computing a whole lot harder. In fact.. there's no use for Vista even if you are doing more than everyday tasks lol.
Ive been using Ubuntu 7.04 (linux) since it came out (earlier this year). fuckin' excellent alternative to windows/mac, and its completely free for download.
i'm sure everyone else that posted has already informed you of all the shit bits about vista, so i won't bother.

imitator
09-15-2007, 06:28 PM
The general angst against Vista really came from psuedo-tech geeks, who immediately hated the product before it even came out.

Working in an office that is doing a migration to Vista for over 2000 machines in this location alone, I can tell you that Vista is a damn fine OS.

All the problems with security, and speed of the machine, they can be resolved really easily. Turn off UAC, turn off the security features that bother you, and make sure you are, you know, using a machine from the last 3-4 years.

The only legit problem I have run into since starting the transition is that Vista handles network traffic, and likes to speak in a different protocol by default, to machines other then XP. We have some win2000 machines that we still run, because of legacy apps, and Vista doesnt like to talk back and forth to the win2000 machine without alot of work, at least through our network. Its also a bitch to try to dameware into Vista machines from XP.

Id still recommend giving it to SP1 to buy if you havent already, it wont hurt. But if you use common sense, read the actual requirements for the OS, and take a bit of time to learn about the OS, you will find its a decent enough version of Windows. It just likes to handhold alot at the beginning, which annoys some. But apparently it doesnt annoy them enough to take 3 minutes to search google on how to turn off the annoying features, which is all it takes on almost any problem.

The Vista machines we have running in our office, they are pratically XP with better features at the moment. You can turn Aero off if you want, and when the desktop isnt being displayed, the footprint for Aero is decreased, so that you arent using up as much time processing the UI parts that arent being shown. Aero also completely turns itself off while you are in a full screen application, unlike XP or before, so you are actually getting more power to game in Vista.

The big holdup at this moment, if I really had to pick one, is the software/hardware side. The OS itself is pretty damn nice, but vendors arent working well with MS on this, in getting Vista drivers out for older hardware, and making sure that they release patches for Vista for their software. Thats not MS's fault however, they have no control over that. But its still a major downside.

4twentE
09-29-2007, 05:45 AM
i was just about to post a similar thread. i just got a laptop w/ vista. i don't think i'm computer saavy enough to get into the details of what's supposed to be so bad about it (except when i just read that vista has piracy protection and stuff). but for the most part, i like it. the menus and buttons are a bit hard to find at first but i can get used to them. i like that windows now looks like a combination of Mac OSX and Internet Explorer. the skins are pretty slick looking. but if you guys know any problems with vista i might wanna know about, post em up. 'precinate ya.

this toshiba laptop is pretty sweet too. it's the Satellite P205 S6307. 17" widescreen, dual core 1.83 ghz processor, full keyboard w/ numberpad, not too heavy on the lap, and so on. i recommend it for anyone looking for a laptop in the $1000 range. didn't get good ratings for gaming though, but i'm not really a big gamer so that doesn't matter to me too much.

Mohksha
09-29-2007, 06:32 AM
Switch to kubuntu or ubuntu! sorry im crunk im moment. Linux is great. I had some slight problems at first but they were easily fixed. Plus you can get almost any program you could ever want for free! It's pretty awesome; If you are a Windows user I would get kubuntu, if mac then ubuntu.

WaZ
10-11-2007, 10:34 PM
After SP1 I'll add it to the boot menu...

babystarbud
10-13-2007, 06:00 AM
Iv recently got vista ultimate 64, mainly for the benefit of future games, dx10 and no more RAM limits.

Il run it along side XP till i'm used to it though, and as above, SP1 will probably be out by the time I get round to installing vista, im in no rush as XP is still the better OS...for now

...I think Vista has great potential.

babystarbud
10-13-2007, 06:01 AM
Iv recently got vista ultimate 64, mainly for the benefit of future games, dx10 and no more RAM limits.

Il run it along side XP till i'm used to it though, and as above, SP1 will probably be out by the time I get round to installing vista, im in no rush as XP is still the better OS...for now

...I think Vista has great potential.

imitator
10-13-2007, 07:02 PM
Switch to kubuntu or ubuntu! sorry im crunk im moment. Linux is great. I had some slight problems at first but they were easily fixed. Plus you can get almost any program you could ever want for free! It's pretty awesome; If you are a Windows user I would get kubuntu, if mac then ubuntu.

I am a gamer, and it is too much of a hassle to either have dual boot just to play my games in a windows enviroment, or have to emulate windows inside linux.

I used to keep a shitty old laptop with Red Hat 7 on it for years, but honestly just didnt see the point. Its great for what it is, most definitely, but in a windows dominate world, you really need to have windows installed in order to do alot of things.


...I think Vista has great potential.

SP1 will give a good reason to re-evaluate the OS for most reviewers, and I think by then they will have gotten over their "omg vista is teh debil!" premindset, and they might actually review the OS properly. Really its amazing that the crux of the problems that most people have are fixed with 5 minutes of work, or recognizing that a computer from 4 years ago might not work with a new OS.

XP was a crazy beast of an OS, you could literally run it on a machine running at 16mhz, with less then 2mb of ram. If I could remember the website where they did it at, Id link it, but the OS could really run on almost anything, which was great, but also disillusioned people to needing to buy new hardware to run newer things.

And personally, it took me more time to get XP working the way I wanted it then it did for Vista. Spent alot less time fooling around in the registry after the Vista install then I did with XP. And thank god they stopped the stupid fucking "updates have been installed restart now or later, but by later, we mean that you can click later like 5 times, and then we restart for you" setup.

mikeyjo
10-13-2007, 08:19 PM
I upgraded to XP from windows 2000 (the best windows OS IMO) a year ago only because certain programs I needed required it.

SP3 for XP is supposed to add the security features available in Vista to XP. SP1 was just released for Vista - it's a beta though. Nothing like unleashing buggy software and letting your custies do the testing for you.

babystarbud
10-14-2007, 06:11 AM
it's a beta though. Nothing like unleashing buggy software and letting your custies do the testing for you.

Its the best way to get any problems ironed out in a shorter time scale, a lot of people ive noticed are slating the crysis beta, which s equaly pointless...the purpose of beta testing is just that, to report problems.

a lot of people seem to think that betas are working demos and slate them when they dont meet thier polished expectations, they forget what they are actually for.....testing!

slipknotpsycho
10-14-2007, 06:59 AM
well, i got my vista running pretty much just as smoothly as xp ran... i don't realy have any problems with it anymore... it really is just a matter of ironing out the kinks of it... and of course having a pc powerful enough to actually run it.... vista really is a resource hog...

anyways... there are still a copule of annoyances, but they are extremely minor and extremely rare.... honestly, could have the same exact problems in XP...

just like with most great things, they require a bit of tinkering to get them to work like you want and expect them too.... there are very few things thta don't require some type of set-up and is 100% perfect and configured straight outta the box.... and none of those few things are electronics, atleast recent ones...

texas grass
10-14-2007, 07:32 AM
vista has been great to me
runs everything i have thrown at it
its quick
installs new software and hardware instantly, and if you dont have disk, it finds for you
im on the 32 bit not 64 bit

mikeyjo
10-14-2007, 04:28 PM
a lot of people seem to think that betas are working demos and slate them when they dont meet thier polished expectations, they forget what they are actually for.....testing!

Don't have to look too hard to find that the final product - Vista, is anything but polished and customers are stuck paying full price for beta software.

Some find that's par for the course, some say there's a sucker born every minute....

I'll pass on Vista.... for a while thx.

imitator
10-15-2007, 01:41 AM
Don't have to look too hard to find that the final product - Vista, is anything but polished and customers are stuck paying full price for beta software.

Some find that's par for the course, some say there's a sucker born every minute....

I'll pass on Vista.... for a while thx.

And please, enlighten me, how is Vista beta software?

What part of vista isnt working properly?

Hardware and software venders not providing drivers and software updates that work with Vista is not MS's fault. They have no control over what other companies do, and the other companies dropped the ball big time in not providing drivers for people for their hardware. Its not like Vista was announced far in advance, and its not like they were given the specifications for Vista so that they could code the drivers and software updates ahead of time...

As far as the SP1 beta test, they do it because it makes everyone happy. People who want to get the updates before everyone else can get it, and in return for getting access to it early, MS is able to beta test it on a large scale audience, because honestly it doesnt matter how great your in house QA people are, you will miss things that will be found when you have a large amount of people all screwing with the software. You have to purposely seek out the update, because it is beta it isnt pushed to anyone who doesnt want it.

IForgotAgain
10-15-2007, 02:03 AM
Vista sucks period...


SHitty gaming compatibility and it has like 100 thousand problems with hardware such as wireless mouses and printers.. ect


It sucks.

slipknotpsycho
10-15-2007, 02:21 AM
Vista sucks period...


SHitty gaming compatibility and it has like 100 thousand problems with hardware such as wireless mouses and printers.. ect


It sucks.

um.... i have quite a few games installed on my computer and am always installing more, no problems....

and both my keyboard and mouse is wireless... i got a printer too....

like i said, it's "100,000" problems are just a matter of configuring files....

mikeyjo
10-15-2007, 03:05 AM
Hardware and software venders not providing drivers and software updates that work with Vista is not MS's fault. They have no control over what other companies do,
They dictate what access and control 3rd party vendors have to their POS OS. Each major vendor at one point or another during vistas development has griped about M$ and their dealings together.

It's not like they don't have a track record pulling this kinda crap. XP was buggy as hell and the FBI went so far as to warn M$ not to release their swiss cheese OS. And how about all the anti trust suits...? M$ doesn't play ball. Never has.

At least they seem to have learned something from the XP fiasco, to lock the OS tight.

imitator
10-15-2007, 04:46 AM
Vista sucks period...


SHitty gaming compatibility and it has like 100 thousand problems with hardware such as wireless mouses and printers.. ect


It sucks.

I had a harder time going from 2000 to XP then I did XP to Vista. Ive actually gotten more MSDOS games to work under Vista then I could under XP.

Drivers are entirely the vendors fault. MS can not write drivers for everything out there, its just not feasible. Most of the vendors had well over a year to write drivers, and most just decided not to. That aside, when I installed Vista, it had generic drivers to run every peice of hardware in my machine, and grabbed the specific drivers within the first 5 minutes of it running.

Vista had alot better start then XP, and is alot better OS then XP. I dreaded the switch to XP from 2000, it was going from a solid OS to a peice of crap, and it wasnt until just after SP1 that XP was actually stable enough and worked well enough that it was worthwhile using. Until that point, it was like a rehash of ME.

I literally had to save a batch file that ran all the scripts to change the configuration of XP on a new install becuase it took too long to do manually, and I reinstall every 3-4 months to keep things squeaky clean.

babystarbud
10-15-2007, 01:14 PM
lol, whatever, go buy an applepod or whatever its called.

like the guy said, XP didnt come into its own untill updates were released, XP pre-sp2 wasnt half what it is now.