first timer need some help

[gundahead1270]

ok so ive been growing these plants, this fri will be 3 weeks there all 6-10 inches tall, they started from seed, grew under 2 2 1/2 flouro lights they grew fine, so now i transplanted them into 8 ounce pots, there under 2 100w halogens i have them high enough that they dont burn, and the 2 flouro are int he middle i have 12 plants due to i figured half would be male, now i know the spectrum on halogens is wrong and the flouros arent strong enough i was just wondering how well these will do and is there another way besides buying a grow light for 200 dollars, any help is appreciated

[GaGrown]

ok so ive been growing these plants, this fri will be 3 weeks there all 6-10 inches tall, they started from seed, grew under 2 2 1/2 flouro lights they grew fine, so now i transplanted them into 8 ounce pots, there under 2 100w halogens i have them high enough that they dont burn, and the 2 flouro are int he middle i have 12 plants due to i figured half would be male, now i know the spectrum on halogens is wrong and the flouros arent strong enough i was just wondering how well these will do and is there another way besides buying a grow light for 200 dollars, any help is appreciated


CFL,s! Make ya some lights. It's a hobby,too!

Ga Grown!

[Garden Knowm]

Hello Mr. GUND :)

Flower NOW.... If you do not have HID lighting, You should ALMOST always flower when you have 4-6 nodes...

cheers

picture please :)

[Scarlet Sky]

^^ good point ;)

[gundahead1270]

ok yeah so i just went and got a 48 inch dual flourescent overhead light, i got two aquarium and plant lights 40w's and i bought some cfl's 2 of them the kind that are supposed to be similar to sunlight i guess they are 23w dalylight extra mini 100 which is better the 48' or the 2 cfls and if im not mistakin nodes are sets of leaves correct? ill put a pic up ina bit

[gundahead1270]

thanks all so here are some pics of my grow my plants are really tall but i think its b/c they were stretching for light. now that i have a dual flourescent light overhang two 24inch flourescent tubes and 2 cfl 35w i hope theyll stop shooting up and maybe start growing out, im totally going into this blind i have no idea really if thats enough light im thinking ill need some more once they start to flower, but for now it should be good right? umm aswell the soil i bought is miracle grow time released, so dod i need some more fert or will that do for now, all the plants are green and lively some are starting to fall over (which i will fix today) other than that i have one major question i have a friend who is a veteran grower and he told me to distinguish between male and female right above the branches there are these two little hairs he said if there crossed there male if there straight there female, is this true and what are some easy ways to distinguish between the male and female there are 12 plants so i should have a outcome of around 6 females correct? and when do i switch the cycle?

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[bud bud ding ding]

wow fuck me bro halogens wat the fook your gonna burn your street down man.if you can get some cfl's if you can go one better get an hps but for fucks sake get rid of that halogen.

[bud bud ding ding]

yes check were the branch joins the stem your looking for white hairs(2) also what strain you growing and how big do you want your plants that determines when you flower.marijuana plants when forced to flower grow biiiiiiiiiiiiig.

[bud bud ding ding]

males have balls like a bunch of grapes

[gundahead1270]

i dont know what strain they are just some kron buds i got from my friend who grows, i got rid of the halogen lights but it never burnt them they seem to stop stretching as much now that i have 2cfs 35w and the 48inch dual flouro and 2 more 24inch floro i will get a hps light after this grow i just dont want to put that much money into it if i find out its not my knack but yeah you guys keep talking about hairs 2 of them when should they appear, cus the plants neither have those or the balls, granite theyre only 19 days old, will this be enough light and do i need some fert still? all help is greatly appreciated

[bud bud ding ding]

they will start showing between 1 to 2 weeks and remember no light leaks.also you start flower when they reach 8' for sativa and 12' for indica

[gundahead1270]

how do i know what kind they r

[bud bud ding ding]

i do mean inches not feet lol..........................am i stoned..............yes i am

[gundahead1270]

haha its cool its just im new and you seem to have the knowledge i need

[bud bud ding ding]

how broad are your leaves are they broad and fat or real long like hands

[gundahead1270]

long like hands i suppose why

[bud bud ding ding]

if they are i would say your dealing with sativa and there gonna strech during flower................oooooooo yeah

[gundahead1270]

how do you know and is that good that the strech

[bud bud ding ding]

well really the rule of thumb is an indica will at least double in height and a sativa will triple or better so if you have sativa put it in flower about 8'' to 10'' and it should stay under 3 feet high.all marijuana streches when flower is induced but how much depends on your strain and genetics.

[Garden Knowm]

hey gund...

when growing with fluorescents, height is not as relevant as number of nodes.. There is no reason to grow a plnat over 4-6 inches before flowering when ONE is growing with LIMITED light..

you may want to look at this thread...

cheers
http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/48343-what-does-healthy-2-week-old-plant-look-like.html

[gundahead1270]

hahah thanks knowm ill put some new pics up later today, what im actually doing now is i have them on 18/6 for now at the end of the week im going to drop it to 12/12 so they will start flowering, mine are much taller than yours, but not as may nodes, mine have about 4/5 right now but there around 9 inchs tall, they seem to be growing great now so ill jkeep you updated, pics will be on later today

thanks

[invision]

id flower now and not wait your only going to get a limited amount either way so you mine as well keep the plant as small and tight as possible.

[gundahead1270]

high all, so were up to day 20 and i have put them on 18/6 theyll stay that way for another week then ill put them on 12/12 i have started some more though im wondering do i have to get more lights an dkeep them on 24 hours or can i put them in with the girls seeing as how as soon as i sex them ill go from 12 to well around have that with females so ill ahve some room can i put the seedlings in there with the 12/12 or is that bad aswell how do my plants look ? they were stretching for a while now they are starting to get the nodes close together, they are drooping abit so i guess im over watering, and they have little sprout looking things coming in at the beginning of all the branches this is normal correct? anywho thanks to all that comment any suggestions are appreciated, heres some pics

[gundahead1270]

well everybody sucks cause you get no help here

[JackdaWack]

well everybody sucks cause you get no help here

Yeah bro sorry no hands outs, im not doing the work for u. And those plants are streatched beyond control. You should have had you fluoros right ontop of those seedlings from day one. one inch gap, and those halogens.... u can replace them with cfl's. and the fluoro tubes should be fine. i dont even know what u should do lookin at those photos, lst them down and get the light right on top. you should all read more!! and watch a grow guide or read one. there long but im not gonna sit here and tell you how to do everything. With every one telling yoy to flower, i think they will retract there staments after seeing the photos.

[JackdaWack]

by the pictures you have given and the halogens you used, i can see you did little research on growin, i mean really did u? U cant get upset ppl dont help you when u make little effort, there is alot to read and alot to consume i realize but if your going to make this work, you have to put in the effort.

[gundahead1270]

yeah well i would be more than happy to watch a video but i work full time and go to college so i dont have the time to watch the videos and no im not asking for hand outs just advice if you dont have any for me then maybe you shouldnt comment

[MULLETMAN]

So how old are your plants and how many you got.
How many nodes?

What lighting are they under now?

ime using 250 hps

What kinda soil?

fox farm perlite mix


Do you got any ventilation or fans?

using a 100 cfm w/ can exausting 24/7
400 cfm exhausting 250 hps 12/12
small fan blow in closet

How often ya watering? Are you really lettin that soil dry good? Ph?

Using any nutes?

using botanicare pure blend grow 1/2 dose maybe

Just seeing where you stand
You've still got plenty of time w/ em and it looks like the plants are doing all right. :rastasmoke:

just letting ya know what ime using here,

doing an apt. closet grow