HELP! which is which?! Afghani/Northern lights

[Chronic Chrissy]

I know this has been asked a million times, but this time I know it is one or the other and you get to tell me if I have it WRONG or RIGHT. As you can see through my link in my sig I am growing Afghani and Northern lights. My buddy says he is very sure that I have it right but with a little research I am finding it seems I have it wrong. I want to believe my buddy cause he is so sure but I don't know anymore. I don't care whose right I just want to be properly informed.

Additional info
As it stands this is how I know my plants.

Afghani- Tall, fast growing, slightly lanky, Large skinny blades, thinner stalk, clones take in 2 weeks with my method, slightly lighter green than the NL

Northern lights- Short, bushy, compact, Large fat blades, thicker stalk, clones take in 1 week, leaves darker green.

If you don't want to go through my link you can look at my avator, as it is I believe this is Afghani.

[invision]

thats look right to me, your right on about the NL plants

[GaGrown]

Casey is an aff for sure! You can see the skunk in it! Bella is a northen light strain. That's just from my experience as recognizing a strain.Casey has the wide dark deep serrated,leaves and it is a tight noded plant anyway. Kinda short and stocky.That's the skunk!There is a hint of sativa in bella.Reason I say Northern lights.Nice!!!!

Ga Grown!

[Chronic Chrissy]

Casey is an aff for sure! You can see the skunk in it! Bella is a northen light strain. That's just from my experience as recognizing a strain.Casey has the wide dark deep serrated,leaves and it is a tight noded plant anyway. Kinda short and stocky.That's the skunk!There is a hint of sativa in bella.Reason I say Northern lights.Nice!!!!

Ga Grown!

Lol so you say I have to switch. Noted. And think you so much for knowing my girls names, it makes them feel special.;)

[GaGrown]

Did you label the Mother's?

Ga Grown!

[Chronic Chrissy]

Everything is labled. We have Jaz A1(for Afghani #1, lol) her clones A1-1 A1-2 A1-3, Mrs. BL A2 and clones A2-1 A2-2 A2-3, Casey N1 clones N1-1 N1-2 you get the pic.

[GaGrown]

Just by what I see Casey has a shit load of skunk in her! Does she smell that way when you gently squeeze the top?Super pungent? Stinky sweet!

Ga Grown!

[GaGrown]

here are mine. For reference.

Ga Grown!

[Chronic Chrissy]

Just by what I see Casey has a shit load of skunk in her! Does she smell that way when you gently squeeze the top?Super pungent? Stinky sweet!

Ga Grown!

With Casey at first I didn't smell anything, but there was a faint faint smell of...kinda like spruce pine needles. Jaz smelt like...the only thing I can compare it to is when I used to work with my mom in a green house, stronger than Casey but fresh leafy moist smell. Does that make any sense?

[Scarlet Sky]

the piney smell is an attribute of northern lights.

Sky

[Chronic Chrissy]

here are mine. For reference.

Ga Grown!

See that remids me of my Affs, That big leaf right in the middle of your pic looks like the leaf in my avator. And on top of that yours looks taller and less compact like like jaz. I don't know,:confused: :confused: :confused: I'm so confused. Buddy who gave them o me is coming back tonight, I'll ask him if he's sure for the millionth time. He grows along side the main suppiers for our city so I want to believe him but he could just be playing know it all.
And the color of yours is closer to my Afghanis.

[GaGrown]

Now you got me all cross-eyed!!!! LOL I know what my gurls are and I would hope that your Dawg,ain't gonna do ya that way! Go with ya labels! Then after ya smoke it,that'll tell that tell.Lemme come smell??

Ga Grown!

[Chronic Chrissy]

lol, I guess since I can't tell my friends what it is me and my husband will just have to smoke it all ourselves, so we don't misrepresent, lol.

Naaawww, I'll just have to share with my Cana.con buddys.;) :joint1:

[GaGrown]

We'll jess trade!

Ga Grown!

[9KtuFK]

Like I was teling you int the strain section, you will know for sure when you flower your ladies. The Afghani have almost no crystal on the fruit (a lot of resin). Afghani also have an annoying large ration of leaves VS buds so donâ??t be afraid to remove some to make sure all your fruits are exposed to the light ! Also, the Afghani will give you a couch lock high â?¦ Believe me, you will be fucked up (my favorite plant to smoke as it taste like hash!!)

The NL is pretty good but does not come close if you are looking for couch lock â?¦. If you desire a more all around buzz, the NL will probably be the one you will pick.

Good luck my friend,

9KtuFK

[canuck grower]

Just from what I know about smoking NL and the little I know about cannabis I thought you had them mixed up before it came up. I figured I had never seen either plant myself so I was probably wrong and shouldn't mention it.

So yeah, for what it's worth I think they're mixed up. I hope you can figure it out before smoking them! :jointsmile:

[Chronic Chrissy]

I think smoking them will set it strait because we get NL all the time and I know the smoke. Actually we are getting a 1/4 of NL tonight I should compare scents tomrrow. Everyone here I talk to says that NL is short bushy and compact. I'll look into it after K goes to bed and do some more research.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Northern Lights Marijuana Strains (http://marijuanastrains.com/northernlightsmarijuana.html)


Afghani Marijuana Strains - The origins of this strain come from Afghanistan and travel to Holland. Afghani has big round fat leaves and the same beautiful big fat buds. It usually has a rich smooth hash like heavy smoke taste. The Afghani marijuana plant tends to be very bushy and will yield large amounts of very sticky buds. Well known for excellent growth because it originated in mountainous conditions and over thousands of years a very stocky, sturdy and disease resistant plant was produced. Great for the outdoors and even better indoor or greenhouse. Click the order button to see if seed stock is available for mail order delivery right now!
Height : 250-300 cm

The northern lights marijuana strain has big broad leaves and large buds always covered with crystals. Highly adapted for indoor growing. A strong earthy taste. Northern Lights marijuana is not a big plant growing to about 1.5 m outdoors. It is a good plant for the indoor growers, its a classic northern lights marijuana plant and one of the most smoked and grown in Holland, try it out, click the order button for mail order buying options!
Height : 100-125 cm

Afghan Hybrids - cannabis seeds (http://www.seedsman.com/en/cannabis-seeds/seedsman-seeds/afghan-hybrids)

Afghani cannabis is of the indica variety although it has also been described as Cannabis â??Afghanicaâ?? due to its distinctive nature. Afghani indica strains are characterised by certain traits which include; short plants, thick stems, prolific branching, thick dark leafs and leaflets and abundant resin.

Northern Lights is closer genetically than Hash Plant to its Afghani roots but both show strong â??Afghanicaâ?? characteristics.
Northern Lights Seeds
The genetics of Northern Lights is one of the most confused of all existing cannabis seeds strains because there is no one who can take entire credit for its creation. Northern Lights was developed as an indoor cannabisseed strain in the late 1970s near Seattle in Washington, although the genetics involved in the cross were known to have come from California - the original home of a great many of the most famous cannabis seeds strains. It was initially a stabilised cannabis sativa strain crossed with an Afghani indica hybrid.

Northern Lights travelled to Holland as a clone where it was introduced to the commercial cannabis seed market in 1985 by The Seed Bank.

Because it arrived as a clone it could not be inbred for stability and cannabis seed production, therefore Skunk No 1 and Original Haze were used to produce seeds off it so it could be used as a parent plant.

Northern Lights distinctly shows its Afghani indica genetic background; it is a small plant that produces, big highly resinous flowers. Although it was initially developed for indoor growers excellent results have been produced outside.Northern Lights has a sweet resinous taste and produces a physical comfortable but lazy feeling, known to some as â??couch lockâ??.




But even this info and the pics of bud(just looking at the leaves cause I have no bud) is confusing so you know what? I AM JUST GOING TO CALL THEM ALL BAGSEED TILL I'M NOT SO PISSED OFF AND CONFUSED.

I wish some one would put togather a rough guild on the general characteristics of each common strain along with clear definate picof thosestrain pointing out general sure signs.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Well I'm not so pissed of or confused because at least I have it narrowed down to two strains for sure. I am still very open to your opinions and insight and apologize for my rudeness. Thanks for stopping by.

[GaGrown]

Getting STONED is a cure for all ill feeling! Toke 1 Gurl!

Ga Grown!

[Chronic Chrissy]

Getting STONED is a cure for all ill feeling! Toke 1 Gurl!

Ga Grown!

I got one to top that. Kiana just said Momma tonight for the first time at 6 months old!

[GaGrown]

That's HIGH! Congrats! You got me!

Ga Grown!

[Chronic Chrissy]

Ok. So we are 18 days into flower and budding quite nicely. I have notice that what I have been calling Afghani has very visable crystals and is more stretched yet full of bud all the way down. What I call northerns have crystals that are more like tiny hairs, and has nice fat buds up at the tip.
I will admit that I am slowly being convinced, and am more open to the idea of having it wrong because I am enjoying growing both and will continue to keep both strains cycling through.

So I ask again for opinions pictures and characteristics. And I'll have everything I know about the differences between these two strains asap.

[GaGrown]

aff! Your right about that theory,too.

Ga Grown!

[Chronic Chrissy]

aff! Your right about that theory,too.

Ga Grown!

OK I'm breaking this down

Afghani

-tall
-lanky
-stretched just enough to allow light
-large leaves with long skinny blades
-lighter green than my northerns
-thinner stalk
-Bud with lots of crystal, frosty
-buds go all the way down the stem
-bud smells like fresh moist veg like when I worked in a greenhouse, smell it upstairs
-clones in 2 weeks

Northerns

-Short
-bushy
-compact shading itself
-Large leaves with fat blades
-darker green
-Thick stalk
-Bud has fine hairlike crystals
-Buds are fat at the tips, and at internodes
-Buds have very faint pine smell, only when pinched
-Clones in one week.

So GaGrown which is which, am I right or switch them in response to the bud aspect. Your pic looks like my aff

[GaGrown]

I think you could be right! That's 1 of my affy gurls.I'm a bit ahead of you as far as when they started flowering. That's 4 weeks.Just think if that 600 and the mover had been on them the whole time! Dayam! You know them bitches would be fat! I use the word BITCH in reference to the plants and not the female gender.I love all the gurls! Ya'll ROCK!

Ga Grown!

[Chronic Chrissy]

What did you have her under before the 600? Mine have 3-4 main colas and it just about the same bud as yours at 18 days flower, 54 days old. but they've been under 400's the whole time and have 4 flouro tubes for sidelighting.

[GaGrown]

They were under 2 400's HPS.No side lighting.Ive upgraded all areas.I got 2 600's and 1 400 MH 1 400 HPS. The rest of the bells and whistles,too. Need c02.I got a Milwaukee set-up,looking for the tank.My room is seal,too!

Ga Grown!

[GaGrown]

By the looks of things and the trial and error you've been through,I'd leave as is! Look consistant enough to be what you are calling them. You doing a great job! Grow On,Gurl!

Ga Grown!

[bejay]

based on your description it sound like you have them backwards as the northern lights should be slighly taller or lanky, lighter green leaves when compared to the afghani and have slightly thinner leaves as this tells you wich plant has some sativa in its makeup while in most cases it has very little sativa its still mostly indica but can vary quite abit from one seed breeder to another.
the afghani should be shorter with dark green and wide leaves.

[babystarbud]

hi there, thought id join in the aghan/nl debate i followed from another thread,

as i understand, the afghani is the more true indica of the two, so should have wider darker leafs during veg, almost like the canadian maple leaf, the nl should have simmilar charecteristics, but not so pronounced, so sould be a taller plant with thinner leafs.

so, in other words, pretty much the opposite to the above post lol

[Chronic Chrissy]

New pics of bud to help with the debate.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I figured this pic thing out. These are my plants 32 days into flower. The first 2 I call Afghani, Then 3 and 4 are what I call Northern.

[babystarbud]

i would say you still have it backwards, but either way they look good :)

[Chronic Chrissy]

you're right i have it backwards

[spankey]

wow those look good!!!!!!

love your grow

[stinkyattic]

I agreed with babystarbud actually.
My experience wiht afghanis is that the leaves are almost obscenely wide-bladed.
In fact, so much so that they often overlap.
This trait seems to be very dominant, as the crosses I have done using the Afghani Dream I used to have all show that trait; somewhere in my "miss stinky's first grow log" there is a SICK afghani dream X that the Yeag grew out (nicely done big guy) and it really shows that trait beautifully.
The plants are also stumpy and compact, but yes, they DO have a very high leaf-to-calyx ratio that I have only ever seen taken to that extreme in the BOG bluemoonrocks female I recently flowered.
Hope that is somewhat helpful.

[canuck grower]

Here are my NL seedlings today @ day 15 (since breaking through the soil). Short, bushy, 1 of them is very compact and has no purple, but the rest of them have purple stalks and are stretchier. Male or female I am breeding the short one! I love it and want more like it. :) Anyway these are BC Bud Depot seeds, http://www.*****online.com/seed_packs.php?seedID=17&category=Indoor/Outdoor (**** == "b c b u d" minus the quotes & spaces).

-c :jointsmile: