levitation

[Sterling]

does anybody believe in levitation????? or seen it or have any good links??

[MastaChronic]

ive seen david blayne levitate on tv before.....idk if it was a really neat magic trick or what

[The Big Easy]

I bet someone can, but I sure a hell cant, I;ve tried on a couple occaions

[MastaChronic]

I bet someone can, but I sure a hell cant, I;ve tried on a couple occaions

just think happy thoughts.....

[Sterling]

yeh ive seen david blaine do it, but thats david blaine lol

ive also seen criss angel make someone float in mid air but i researched and found out its supposively VERY strong magnets, but ive heard real levitation is possible ive heard of monks being able to bring things closer 2 them and stuff (like a pen rolling towards u) kinda like Phenomenon

[2600HERTZ]

Well, i have been on some pretty potent shrooms, and instead of getting "The Jello Effect" it felt like i was way the fuck up in the air. It was pretty sexy.

[Inferius]

... are ya'll kidding me?

Levitation
LOL
Everything blaine does is with a scripted audience, and they cut out the parts that show the truth.

Anyone ever heard the laws of physics? Or GRavIty?

The only thing close to realistic levitation I have ever heard of is this strange body maneuver monks did a long time ago, called the floating frog or something. Some way of bending your legs or something that made it look like you were hopping with ease.

[2600HERTZ]

IDK, i think it is possible to levitate if you found your real center and were really practiced at meditation....It IS all about being one with everything.

[mfitzp]

i thought everyone knew how to do blanes levitation criss angel is fucking brilliant but his stuff is done the same as blanes i dont think any of that is possible since theres a open test for years inviting anyone who thinks they can do anything like that to a lab to prove it and then get a million euro loads of people tried but no one passed lol

[BobBong]

Only if your name is Peter

[Garden Knowm]

LSD... :)

[Inferius]

LSD... :)

Anything is possible within the mind.

[hazetwostep]

i personally believe in supernatural occurances, so i believe things like levitation may be possible... and other such things that suspend, circumvent, or somehow fit themselves in through some "backdoor" of natural law.

i personally have never seen levitation, but i have seen/experienced lesser scale versions of "miraculous" events, and that has me convinced that even greater things could happen as well.

[slipknotpsycho]

... are ya'll kidding me?

Levitation
LOL
Everything blaine does is with a scripted audience, and they cut out the parts that show the truth.

Anyone ever heard the laws of physics? Or GRavIty?

The only thing close to realistic levitation I have ever heard of is this strange body maneuver monks did a long time ago, called the floating frog or something. Some way of bending your legs or something that made it look like you were hopping with ease.

not that i beleive it or dis-believe it... but laws of physics would dictate there is no higher power either, but how many people believe in that?

[Oh F Yeah]

"Numerous incidents of levitation have been recorded in Christianity and Islam. Among the first was Simon Magus (http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/m/magus_simon.htm) in the first century. Other incidents reported among the Roman Catholic saints include the incident of Joseph of Cupertino (1603-1663), the most famous, who is said to have often levitated through the air. It is reported he often gave a little shriek just before levitating, and on one occasion levitated for as long as two hours.
Saint Teresa of Avila was another well known saint who reported levitating. She told of experiencing it during states of rapture. One eyewitness, Sister Anne of the Incarnation, said Saint Teresa levitated a foot and a half off the ground for about a half hour.
Saint Teresa wrote of one of her experiences: "It seemed to me, when I tried to make some resistance, as if a great force beneath my feet lifted me up. I know of nothing with which to compare it; but it was much more violent than other spiritual visitations, and I was therefore as one ground to pieces."

This is the link to more: Levitation (http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/l/levitation.html)

[smoke it]

there are these dudes in like, Malaysia or sumthin, who meditate so much, they can control their heartbeat, blood pressure, and gravitational force. their just very in tune with their bodies. everything has a gravitational force. and they can turn theirs all the way up and levitate about 3 cm off the ground.

[Inferius]

lol. I'm just gonna keep my answer as :jointsmile:

[Garden Knowm]

not that i beleive it or dis-believe it...

This is way to cpomplex for 99% of the people... And I am actually floored that you typed THIS..

iloveyou

"You mean you can actually just observe something without forming an opinion.." FUCKING PROFOUND!!! LOL -

iloveyou


very nice mr. psycho

[mrdevious]

I don't believe levitation is really possible because it's an outright breaking of the laws of physics. The laws of physics, however, have been bent and manipulated in incredible ways by those who really come to understand their body, mind, and the forces utilized by both. There have been monks who could hold their breath for 8 minutes, balance their naked bodies on 4 sharp spears without penetration, walk on strait-up nails without falling through, little men who are unmoveable even by 5 huge strong men, create martial strikes that are deadly with only the tip of a finger, jump higher than normally humanly possible, stop their heart at will.... the list just goes on. One tibetan martial arts school I saw, with some INCREDIBLE monks, taught their practitioners the idea of "be heavy as a mountain, and light as a feather". These guys can smash large bricks by flipping and hitting them with the top of their head, transferring all the energy through their crown. They jump immensely high so gracefully (light as as feather), and come with with such incredible force to destroy large concrete bricks (heavy as a mountain).

The mind can do incredible things, and even release chemicals in the body that give you incredible abilities, but no amount of microscopic neural energy is going to be 1/1,000,000th enough to have a substantial enough strength to lift you off the ground. Sorry.

[Garden Knowm]

I don't believe levitation is really possible because it's an outright breaking of the laws of physics. The laws of physics, however, have been bent and manipulated in incredible ways by those who really come to understand their body, mind, and the forces utilized by both. There have been monks who could hold their breath for 8 minutes, balance their naked bodies on 4 sharp spears without penetration, walk on strait-up nails without falling through, little men who are unmoveable even by 5 huge strong men, create martial strikes that are deadly with only the tip of a finger, jump higher than normally humanly possible, stop their heart at will.... the list just goes on. One tibetan martial arts school I saw, with some INCREDIBLE monks, taught their practitioners the idea of "be heavy as a mountain, and light as a feather". These guys can smash large bricks by flipping and hitting them with the top of their head, transferring all the energy through their crown. They jump immensely high so gracefully (light as as feather), and come with with such incredible force to destroy large concrete bricks (heavy as a mountain).

The mind can do incredible things, and even release chemicals in the body that give you incredible abilities, but no amount of microscopic neural energy is going to be 1/1,000,000th enough to have a substantial enough strength to lift you off the ground. Sorry.


cute.. very cute...

LAWS of Physics...

[scott9116]

I levitated once as a child 6 or 7. I'm not sure how. I was about to wake my mother for work. As I leaned over to shake her my feet came out from under me and I hung there for a few seconds, stood back up and all was normal. It never happened again. Pretty weird. I wasn't under the influence of any drugs or anything. It just happened on it's own. Never told anyone about it 'till now.

[mrdevious]

cute.. very cute...

LAWS of Physics...


Oh that's right, scientists are more on to "accepted theory" than "law" these days.

*ahem*
monks have been known to bend and manipulate the accepted theory of physical processes.

Now aren't you going to tell me your love me after your delightful unwarranted condescension?

[mfqr]

ive seen david blayne levitate on tv before.....idk if it was a really neat magic trick or what

Fake. It's all done by angle, and lifting the leg that's in sight with the other leg that is not in sight. It's not very hard... except for getting the angle correct so the audience cannot see the leg you're using to lift the visible leg up with.

[mfqr]

there are these dudes in like, Malaysia or sumthin, who meditate so much, they can control their heartbeat, blood pressure, and gravitational force. their just very in tune with their bodies. everything has a gravitational force. and they can turn theirs all the way up and levitate about 3 cm off the ground.

Tibetan Monks. They are famous for that, but I'm sure people in Malaysia can do it too. I believe in an energy called "Chi." In fact, everything on this earth is energy, and there are ways to manipulate it. Read about Quantum Physics, and you'll see that just about anything is possible. Very confusing, though ;).

[Inferius]

This is way to cpomplex for 99% of the people... And I am actually floored that you typed THIS..

iloveyou

"You mean you can actually just observe something without forming an opinion.." FUCKING PROFOUND!!! LOL -

iloveyou


very nice mr. psycho

Shit... I am stoned right now...
But I was thinking about this...
And then I realized, it is EXTREMELY profound.
But once you get it, and you really absorb it...
Try it out...
Why were we judging so much?
All of us judge too much don't we?
Even expiriences.
I walk around and think whether I like it, whether thats good or makes sense or whatever I'm thinking at the time...
But... stop... Slow down... expirience.

I have been asleep.
I am now awoken.

[Inferius]

I feel a desire to share this great secret... That lingers near all along..

Do all beings have the same possibilities of awakening?

[slipknotpsycho]

knowm.. how is what i said so profound? lol.. becasue i can observe and not make an opinion on it?

[Inferius]

knowm.. how is what i said so profound? lol.. becasue i can observe and not make an opinion on it?

No opinion.
No separation.
All, eternal.

[kboughton]

laws of physics definately prohibit levitation. dont u think someone would try to take all of the "magical" elements and make it purely scientific just to prove once and for all it can be done? thats crazy money if they could do it and replicate it- except they cant...everyone thought gravity was magic or spiritual to begin with but then people started getting smart and doing experiments

[Weed_Smoka]

levitation IS possible.

[slipknotpsycho]

No opinion.
No separation.
All, eternal.

that confuses me just as much.

i'm kinda dumb somtimes i need even the simplest shit explained to me.

[ericwt]

Levitation? No I do not believe in that. If you can walk on water, take the boat.

Teleportation and Bi location I do believe in them.

Big difference.

[Garden Knowm]

knowm.. how is what i said so profound? lol.. becasue i can observe and not make an opinion on it?


YES.. it is fantastic... believe it or not.. most people LOOSE that ability before the age of 2.. and fill the ability to observe with mindless chit chat and analysis... and THEY forget/deny (and will argue their limitations) it is even possible to be silent... and just observe...

iloveyou


Once one can still the mind or even observe the mind.. ONE never has to be offended BY anything...

For most people this process or HIGH level of stillness only comes after one has suffered MASSIVE amounts of emotional pain...(hint hint) ONE must SURRENDER TO THE NOW..(stop reacting) in order to get ALL the POWER!! lol

iloveyou

[Garden Knowm]

Now aren't you going to tell me your love me after your delightful unwarranted condescension?


analysis.. just like the laws of physics...

iloveyou

Mr. Devious.. I am very sorry if I was rude. I did not intend for my comment to be rude.. just playful...

I will be more careful :)

iloveyou

[Thepossumdance]

9.8 m/s^2, 32 ft/s^2 <- its all in there

[hazetwostep]

Levitation? No I do not believe in that. If you can walk on water, take the boat.

Teleportation and Bi location I do believe in them.

Big difference.

so what makes levitation impossible compared to bi-location! is time travel involved???

[hazetwostep]

levitation is very possible.. all you have to do is remove yourself from the pull of the earth's gravity (or any surrounding planets, stars, etc)... which is very possible, though i am sure that is not the levitation that is being asked...



9.8 m/s^2, 32 ft/s^2 <- its all in there


laws and stuff (like rate of free fall) seem impossible to get past until we learn about the things out there that are exeptions... it seems like a silly though only because it is not a part of our knowledge and understanding right now... the thought of an airplane would have seemed totally ridiculous because one was invented!

[ericwt]

so what makes levitation impossible compared to bi-location! is time travel involved???


The reason it is impossible is the Sage understands the world but does not interfere with it.

Any being that has the ability to levitate would not do it because if someone saw him do it he would have fools either trying to worship him or murder him.

Part of the responsibility of metaphysical power is to own the power but not to wield the power. The Sage wants to remain unknown. He doesnt need idiots worshiping him. He or She understands that as a member of this physical plane part of their job is to be apart of the physical world.

Teleporting and bi locating involve moving the physical body instantly to another location. In truth the sage pulls the other location to where he is.

The Sage has their own agenda. This can get messed up if others of the physical plane understand that he or she is the Sage.

I believe in astral travel so in some matter that could be considered levitation, because you could hover above were ever you wanted.

Levitation as a trick is a game of the ego.

The Sage does not play games.

[Amun]

some airforce heads think that its possible to create a UFO with 2 discs of rotating magnets (opposite polarities) can cause it to have anti-gravitational effects.

...now whether thats true or not is a different story.

im pretty sure it is cause dont they have trains that run on magnets? i think they float too....


eh.

[Polymirize]

No opinion.
No separation.
All, eternal.

Wake up Inferius...

You're still asleep.

[Inferius]

Wake up Inferius...

You're still asleep.

What is and what isn't?

How can we communicate the invisible when the words themselves lose meaning in translation?

I do think, in my own personal definitions, that instead of waking up, I managed to sleep deeper.

I am not sure of anything anymore,
and i'm sick of those who play off anyone else's personal enlightenment as if it is nothing, making themselves into some kind of spiritual know-it-all without any solidifying backup.

I need to know that there is a ladder,
to be sure that whatever I'm trying to climb isn't just
a spinning world.

[Thepossumdance]

some airforce heads think that its possible to create a UFO with 2 discs of rotating magnets (opposite polarities) can cause it to have anti-gravitational effects.

...now whether thats true or not is a different story.

im pretty sure it is cause dont they have trains that run on magnets? i think they float too....
eh.

lol maglev trains float because of the repulsion force between the magnets on the bottom of the train and those on the track

i really dont see any connection with disks which are part of one vehicle pushing apart from one another and flight... but hey there might be just one little thing missing in your description that makes some sort of amazing UFO... I just very much doubt it

[mrdevious]

analysis.. just like the laws of physics...

iloveyou

Mr. Devious.. I am very sorry if I was rude. I did not intend for my comment to be rude.. just playful...

I will be more careful :)

iloveyou


Nah it's cool GK, I've just been in an exceptionally bad mood the past while. Sorry to go off on you.

[hazetwostep]

some airforce heads think that its possible to create a UFO with 2 discs of rotating magnets (opposite polarities) can cause it to have anti-gravitational effects.

...now whether thats true or not is a different story.

im pretty sure it is cause dont they have trains that run on magnets? i think they float too....


eh.

interesting idea... from my understanding of physics though it wouldn't work as it would be much the same as trying to levitate by grabbing your own belt and trying to lift. there needs to be an external force or a propelent involved. you know what i mean? unless you can set up the magnets to create some sort of barrier from the earth's gravity pulling on the mass of the object/person trying to levitate. here is the crazy thing... this sounds like such ridiculous talk simply b/c we know of nothing yet that can do this. there is a good chance there is some sort of metal/material in the vast expanse of the universe that has anti-gravity properties..

fun to think about anyway...

[hazetwostep]

The reason it is impossible is the Sage understands the world but does not interfere with it.
Any being that has the ability to levitate would not do it because if someone saw him do it he would have fools either trying to worship him or murder him.
Part of the responsibility of metaphysical power is to own the power but not to wield the power. The Sage wants to remain unknown. He doesnt need idiots worshiping him. He or She understands that as a member of this physical plane part of their job is to be apart of the physical world.
Teleporting and bi locating involve moving the physical body instantly to another location. In truth the sage pulls the other location to where he is.
The Sage has their own agenda. This can get messed up if others of the physical plane understand that he or she is the Sage.
I believe in astral travel so in some matter that could be considered levitation, because you could hover above were ever you wanted.
Levitation as a trick is a game of the ego.
The Sage does not play games.

interesting perspective for sure! i liked reading your post... two thoughts/questions...

one... do you assume that all sages opperate with the SAME principles you view of sages??? there is no deviant whatsoever to the "Sage Agenda?" that would be pretty amazing if it were the case... are sage's a part of the human race (organic beings) or it sounds like you are describing a spiritual entity incarnating to our physical existence?

second... bi-location (from the definition) has nothing to do with quickly moving from one location to another (like transportation would from one physical place to another physical place or translation from one plane of existence or time to another)... but actually refers to simultaneously being present in two different physical locations at the same instant.

[Polymirize]

I am not sure of anything anymore,
and i'm sick of those who play off anyone else's personal enlightenment as if it is nothing, making themselves into some kind of spiritual know-it-all without any solidifying backup.

Totally. It's one of the worst ways to be a total hypocrite in my opinion. But I've come to the conclusion that knowm's actually a good guy, so I just try to love him back.

I remember a time when I thought I was enlightened or on the verge of becoming so. But that was awhile ago, back before I had a sense of humor.

peace. ;)

[kboughton]

levitation- the rising or lifting of a person or thing by means held to be supernatural...(merriam-webster's online dictionary)
propel- to drive forward or onward by or as if by means of a force that imparts motion

incorporating magnets or unknown metals would probably be considered propulsion because they impart motion

[ericwt]

interesting perspective for sure! i liked reading your post... two thoughts/questions...

one... do you assume that all sages operate with the SAME principles you view of sages??? there is no deviant whatsoever to the "Sage Agenda?" that would be pretty amazing if it were the case... are sage's a part of the human race (organic beings) or it sounds like you are describing a spiritual entity incarnating to our physical existence?

second... bi-location (from the definition) has nothing to do with quickly moving from one location to another (like transportation would from one physical place to another physical place or translation from one plane of existence or time to another)... but actually refers to simultaneously being present in two different physical locations at the same instant.


I am familiar with Bi locations definition, but thanks for defining it, because I failed to do it in my post. I assumed all people reading this would know what Bi location is. That is what happens when you post and you are high. There is no edit after 5 min.:stoned:

There is a deviation in the Sage Agenda as you call it. There is a dangerous trap that the apprentice can fall for. It is called the "guru" complex.

They see and feel there inner power growing. Suddenly their lives change in many dramatic ways. As the power flows through them it is not enough for them to continue their spiritual quest unknown.

They seek approval from others. It is an ego trap.

The people who fall in this trap get a little power and rooms full of fools following them. You see them at new age type events. They make good money and sometimes start cults or churches.

The Sage does not need approval from anyone. They can go about their lives undisturbed and they can slowly change the world and make a difference.

My use of the word Sage by me means a human being that has manifested spiritual awareness in this life. He or she walks in two dimensions the physical world and the spiritual world.

[CheebaMan]

i can levitate

juss gimme a couple tokes and watch me fly

[Thepossumdance]

the answer is... MAYBE! we really have no good understanding of how gravity works and thus can not devise an "anti-gravity" device.

[mrdevious]

i can levitate

juss gimme a couple tokes and watch me fly




:joint1: Have a couple tokes on me..... now lets see some flying my good guru :D

[hazetwostep]

alright... so i checked with my physics professor and he said that i am wrong about the whole "by natural means" clause related to the law of conservation of energy. he said instances have and do arise where it seems that there might be exeptions to the law, but he said eventually we gain better understanding and just find a new form that it can turn into... so he said there might be a clause believed by some from time to time, but it always works out...

glad i learned something! anyway, i forget who i was talking to about this and right now i am too ripped to figure that out... cool, so ignore my question about a soul (energy) being destroyed.


ericwt... wow, you are really intriguing me!!! is this a personal revelation or where did you learn about this? is it a part of a religion or personal?

was jesus a guru? can you name some other guru's? it would be cool if you posted your reply to new thread so we could discuss it more without overtaking this thread.. if not cool... just let me know the thread if you do

[Garden Knowm]

The center of a tornado has a tremendous amount of UP pressure...

As I recall, this a TEMPERATURE vacum...


So... if you can generate an enormous amount of heat from your rump.. MAYBE you can levitate..

this is all theory of course.. LOL

iloveyou

[afghooey]

I'm about to eat a big plate of enchiladas.

I'll let you all know how the experiment goes. :jointsmile:

[Inferius]

Totally. It's one of the worst ways to be a total hypocrite in my opinion. But I've come to the conclusion that knowm's actually a good guy, so I just try to love him back.

I remember a time when I thought I was enlightened or on the verge of becoming so. But that was awhile ago, back before I had a sense of humor.

peace. ;)

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