PS3 vs. Xbox 360

[slipknotpsycho]

k, yes it's been done, but it's been awhile. maybe people have reformed their opinions in the matter.

btw, price doesn't count... let stick to the actual specs of them.... not just the games that are released as of now (because of course lol, xbox has been out longer and had more chance so far to produce games) but... the potential..

[higher4hockey]

i've said it before and i'll say it once more 360 owns ps3 ~

i said this too, there was a sony employee that was talking smack about his own product (ps3) he got fired for it because it got out somehow.
so when your employees are talking shit and saying that the 360 is better , the 360 is better!

[dejayou30]

after playing both, PS3 > XBOX 360, but Wii owns all.

[benagain]

Well raw specs says that the ps3 is better, but that doesn't mean anything. The xbox 1 was stronger, but sales figures will show the ps2 as the winner.

[4gan2ja0]

ps3 all the way, its one sick piece of machinery, although there are less games and more costly, it deffinately owns the 360, hands down

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

ps3

I heard microsoft paid sony to launch their 360 1 year before the ps3 cause if not, they would have been pwned by sony lol

I didnt see the option in the poll, but man, I got a ps2 and dats all I need...I dont spend my life playin fuckin video games. Only ddr. Oh well, its a great sport so its not like wastin your time.

[ipodguy]

360
though the ps3 has somewhat better graphics, that in no way makes up for its crappy online play for all of its games.
xbox live is the best reason to get 360 because there are sooo many people on live and it matches you up against people of your skill level.
get 360, get live, get to it!!!:D

[JBlaze82]

ps3 all the way, just give it some time for the kick ass games to come out for it. 360 didn't get real popular when it first came out and now with 1 year behind it, its got a huge fan base. So really we have yet to see what the PS3 is capable of since it just came out. Give it a year and the PS3 will have much better games than 360 and a much bigger fan base and Sony will once again rule the system war. The Wii is a great system but its just to kiddish for me.

[Snake2389]

xbox 360 is probably better right now, because of it was made about a year ago, and alot of games already came out for it, as for ps3, it's just about a month old, so we'll see what happens in a year. Everybody's view is gonna change, watch.

[budsmoker only]

for right now, id say 360 cuz ps3 hasnt come out with many of their best games, and the games that are out right now for it are also out on the 360, but when more games come out, then itll be different

[slipknotpsycho]

ps3

I heard microsoft paid sony to launch their 360 1 year before the ps3 cause if not, they would have been pwned by sony lol

I didnt see the option in the poll, but man, I got a ps2 and dats all I need...I dont spend my life playin fuckin video games. Only ddr. Oh well, its a great sport so its not like wastin your time.

that would be the stick with the oldies option.

btw :p i'm getting my ps3 either way, cuz i've been a sony 'fanboy' since the very begining i'm just curious if anyone has changed their mind...

i'm also taking into account for my decision the fact xbox has had a much larger time span to put out games, while ps3 hasn't even had a chance yet... (btw when i say 'games' and systems together, i'm not talking about games that are on multiple systems, i'm talking about games that are ONLY on that sytem, like halo (before it was put on pc) was only on xbox and GTA was only on playstation before pc...)

[JaggedEdge]

I got the 360 and am loving it. I have no need for a PS3 or Wii anytime soon.

[Nation_1ne]

I could have sworn it was proven 360 actually has better graphical power where as the PS3 has better CPU or "Cell" as they call it. The thing is PS3's "Cell" is actually harder to work with or so I hear. I'm basing this on tests other people have done, so it may not be true.

I chose Wii as it's the console I have come to love at the moment.

[dejayou30]

The only downside of the Wii is the game selection right now. Too many kiddie games, bar a few, but right now I think they are going for more of an active family fun kind of kick. Games like Wario Ware and Rayman Raving Rabbids and Wii Sports are games that are fun and active that anyone can learn and play. My parents even bought a Wii for themselves and love the sports game. Also, once companies figure out better ways to use that remote to its full potential, its going to be an awesome machine. I can't wait for a real MLB baseball game and more action games.

[slipknotpsycho]

btw, i hate wii :p i love nintendo... but damnit i just hate the wii... not to mention all the SHITTY games i've seen so far... they're all so.... kiddie? i dunno how to say it.. anyways read my quote...

zelda ocarina of time was a classic, mario 64 a classic... hell nintendo invented the 'classic games' before microsoft or sony even thought of putting out a console, but i'm so dissapointed in this system it's just uncomprehendable to me.... i just see them basing everything off this controller, trying to incorperate it into everything.... the makers/designers thought the controller would be the strength of the system.... but in reality, atleast to me, it's their weakness


The only downside of the Wii is the game selection right now. Too many kiddie games, bar a few, but right now I think they are going for more of an active family fun kind of kick.

which is all good, cuz to me nintendo has always been a 'family system'... but i haven't known too many families anymore that play the same system... everyone in the family has their own if they even play at all lol.... it sounds like i have a problem with wii.. i just think it has it's flaw's as every other single console in existance has had... it's just not for me... and not for alot of people..

and btw i can figure out a perfect way to incorperate football/baseball games, but it would require a footpad, like sony has for the 'dance games'...

[higher4hockey]

I could have sworn it was proven 360 actually has better graphical power where as the PS3 has better CPU or "Cell" as they call it. The thing is PS3's "Cell" is actually harder to work with or so I hear. I'm basing this on tests other people have done, so it may not be true.

I chose Wii as it's the console I have come to love at the moment.

the developers said it is using 'crippled' software that makes using the ps3s full potential damn near impossible.

its like having a ferrari in manhatten. theres just no room to open it up. the 360 is like a BMW in kansas. not quite as fast, but it can work with what it has.

[benagain]

I've heard the same complaint with the ps3 cell processor. It reminds me of when the N64 was out. It was super fast and powerful (for the times back then), but it was a bitch for devs to work with. I think that's when nintendo decied to not give a damn about how fast it will process, but how developer friendly it is.

[chris420]

Sony is known to be not so devoloper friendly with its new systems but thats because of its high end tech in its new systems, meaning very complex and new hardware to adapt to. Time is still needed in order for Sony to achieve its full potential with the PS3, I see it becoming the best system by the end of this year. I really cannot wait till Metal Gear Solid 4 and the new Resident Evil comes out, the videos are mad!

[xxxhazexxx]

i wanted to vote for both of them 2 fucking pukka computers

[higher4hockey]

" AS if Sony hasn't suffered enough embarrassing news and set backs in the
recent months regarding the train-wreck that the PS3 is becoming (MASSIVE & un-recoverable PS3 development problems, PS2 sales at a stand still, Root
kits, PSP being destroyed by the DS, etc.) ...now a Sony PS3 developer comes out with the truth that many of us have feared, that the XBOX 360 really IS superior to the PS3. What horrible news for Sony, can nothing go right for the PS3?

It's bad enough the PS3 is utilizing a crippled system architecture and
hardware components that videogame developers world wide both despise and mock. But do the developers themselves have to reveal that fact? Can't they leave anything up to the imagination anymore? Sure the PS3 games won't live up to hype, but we as Sony fans are used to being let down just a wee bit by the playstation brand in general. I suppose it's official now, the PS3 is doomed to fail but I will still get one anyway. Lets hope that in the next generation, Sony wakes up, and creates a well designed PS4 that will
actually be able to compete with the successors to the Xbox 360 & Revo "

read em an weep.

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[bubblebrain8]

my friend got a 360, and he was like "the graphics are so fucking awsome".
so i checked it out, its NOT much better then the PS2
im really disapointed in the 360.....have not played PS3 yet

360 sucks fat-megga-ass

[GBongRipper]

not much better then the ps2, try making gears of war, splinter cell double agent, Condemned,G.R.A.W. on the ps2, it would look like shit and impossible and half of the ps3 games were transfered from the 360, its all about the games, and theres nothing on the ps3 except Resistance of man that is actual a buy but still dosent compare to gears in graphics even thought the ps3 has a little more juice then the 360, technically the 360 has more hp that it can produce more polygons then the ps3 but the ps3 has a better techture proccessor, its only 300$ more cause of the blue ray and 1080p that has nothing to do with graphics, go with 360, alot of the games transferd to the ps3 look better on the 360 which all the reviews say

[savagepossum]

the only thing ps3 have got on the 360 is mgs4

[GBongRipper]

true

[benagain]

my friend got a 360, and he was like "the graphics are so fucking awsome".
so i checked it out, its NOT much better then the PS2
im really disapointed in the 360.....have not played PS3 yet

360 sucks fat-megga-ass

What res was the high-def screen you were playing on? I just can't see anyone saying that after playing call of duty 3 at 1080i. Play that then go play san andreas. Youll feel like you're playing with lego people.

[N3D FLANDERS]

i dont care about the system
i care about the games
xbox 360:gears of war and halo 3
ps3:who cares

[slipknotpsycho]

after every game xbox has put out... the only game that's ever caught my eye was gears of war... halo was ok for about the first 15 minutes...

[station]

i've said it before and i'll say it once more 360 owns ps3 ~

i said this too, there was a sony employee that was talking smack about his own product (ps3) he got fired for it because it got out somehow.
so when your employees are talking shit and saying that the 360 is better , the 360 is better!

same shit happened to me. i was at the mall 1 day playing the PS3 and the dude there representing it told me not to buy it. i couldnt agree more after playing it

how many threads are goin to be made about this anyway :cool:

360>PS3

[yoda]

ill stick with the oldies. havent played the wii(interested in though) or the ps3, but i have a 360. and i fucking hate it.

[Meenstreek]

I've got a Xbox 360 and a Wii. I'm loving both.

There is nothing on the PS3 yet that I need to play. Resistance is good but, not worth the price of admission.

[B.Basher]

PS3 looks like it could have some cool games but the cons outway the pros. Blueray is almost destined to fail and the lack of a ventilation fan means you don't just have an oversized burning hot machine, but one that crashes up to 3 times a day aswell. Doesn't sound worth the price tag to me, particularly when you consider how nearly all the decent games will come out on Xbox at the same time.

I'd recommend a Wii above all else but i'm aware it's an acquired taste for some people. All I can say is Nintendo won't screw you over in the long run. With a Wii, your set for life. :D Otherwise, good ol' 360 in second!

[B.Basher]

after every game xbox has put out... the only game that's ever caught my eye was gears of war... halo was ok for about the first 15 minutes...

Agreed with Halo, how average can one overhyped game be? :wtf:

I'm liking the 360 exclusives. Dead Rising is a great concept if a little frustrating:hippy: , plus Viva Pinata and Oblivian are fantastic.

PS3 really needs some first hand exclusive ideas of it's own but so far, it's a PS2 with better graphics. I couldn't believe how boring I found resistance after seeing and hearing so much hype. Not how the cookie crumbles Sony. :p

[slipknotpsycho]

they're already planning for the overheating... a couple of companies are making a relatively cheap add on... a fan that kinda just clicks on to the unit... it's not huge, so it doesn't take up a whole lot more space... doesn't require an ac adapter or anything, it runs off the power to the ps3...

[B.Basher]

they're already planning for the overheating... a couple of companies are making a relatively cheap add on... a fan that kinda just clicks on to the unit... it's not huge, so it doesn't take up a whole lot more space... doesn't require an ac adapter or anything, it runs off the power to the ps3...

Lol, typical of Sony to charge extra for something that'll stop your console from breaking. :jointsmile:
I predict severe dissapointment from the Sony fanbase as is already evident in America, perhaps with the exception of the true PS-heads, and Wii dominates with 360 being the choice for next-gen-graphic-mongers :D .

[slipknotpsycho]

sony isn't the ones making it... madcatz has one... and i don't remember what the other company was.

[Tranquility]

Хboх 360 System Performance - Draft
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU 3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
2 hardware threads per core; 6 hardware threads total
1 VMX-128 vector unit per core; 3 total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache


CPU Game Math Performance 9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor 500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture

Polygon Performance 500 million triangles per second

Pixel Fill Rate 16 gigasamples per second fillrate using 4X MSAA

Shader Performance 48 billion shader operations per second

Memory 512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR
Unified memory architecture

Memory Bandwidth 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus

Overall System Floating-Point Performance 1 TFLOP

Storage Detachable and upgradeable 20 GB hard drive
12X dual-layer DVD-ROM
Memory unit support starting at 64 MB

I/O Support for up to 4 wireless game controllers
3 USB 2.0 ports
2 memory unit slots

Optimized for Online Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, Gamer Profile for digital identity and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies or listening to music
Built in Ethernet Port
Wi-Fi Ready: 802.11 A, B and G
Video Camera Ready


Digital Media Support Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
Stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras, Windows XP PCs
Rip music to Xbox 360 hard drive
Custom playlists in every game
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers

HD Game Support All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
Standard definition and high definition video output supported

Audio Multichannel surround sound output
Supports 48 KHz 16-bit audio
320 independent decompression channels
32-bit audio processing
Over 256 audio channels

System Orientation Stands vertically or horizontally

Customizable Face Plates Interchangeable to personalize the console

now the ps3
Here are the official technical specifications for the PS3, taken directly from Sony:

CPU
Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)
Memory
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth
Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance
2 TFLOPS

Storage
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1

I/O
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1

Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)

Controller
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1

Disc Media
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE



so yea specs wise fuck the 360.

gameplay and affordability are different in that case yea fuck the ps3.

[O. G. ganja smoker]

PS3 rules all once gta IV comes out bye bye x-box but ive played the system with the hdmi cables and on a big screen HDTV the picture and the brightness is amazing

[Rollafatblunt420]

xbox live on 360 will beat your ass, kind of like gears of wars. all ps3 has going for them is that (i have to admit) badass game resistance. game is sick

[budsmoker only]

PS3 rules all once gta IV comes out bye bye x-box but ive played the system with the hdmi cables and on a big screen HDTV the picture and the brightness is amazing

im pretty sure that game is also coming out on the xbox 360....

[budsmoker only]

sony fucked up.. grand theft auto was one of the best games out for playstation... and now its gonna be released with the 360 too... oh well... have ne of you guys played saints row??? pretty badass..

[xmordeciax]

360 hands down... PS3 has so many bugs!

[midlifecrisis]

I voted PS3.... because someone gave me one and it beats the fu@& out of the Intellivision and Bally home arcade I grew up on.

[slipknotpsycho]

yeah sorry to tell you dude, gta iv will be coming out on 360 the same time it's released on ps3...

i still stand by one of my earlier arguments.. why pay to play games online.. that's stupid... i mean people are always talking about all the extras that you 'need' for playstations (as of recent memory the fan thing to keep it cool) but here xbox, requires pretty much the same extras (fan aside) and they make you pay to play online....

there's no way xbox online is better than playstation online TO A POINT to where it requires you to pay for it... it's just another way for microsoft to get more money out of you (for those who are tryign ot say sony drains you for every dime they can)

and again.... we still have to look at one point.... 360 has been out for how long now? well over a year.... ps3 has just recently came out.. of course they're not going to have alot of good ps only games yet... most of them are just ps-ports from xbox games... just wait til this time next year, and wait for all the games that will be out for ps3 once the game makers have had a good chance to see what they can do with the system...

that's the one thing that pisses me off about this whole debate.... 360 has been out forever now, while ps3 has barely been out... of course it's going to be supperior in games...

as someone said earlier stats wise, the 360 sucks... which technically in any real debate, is all you can debate on.. there's no real ground for ps3 to have on xbox at this time... xbox had over a year head start! oh and not to mention (of course this part is my opinion) not only did all the games on xbox pretty much blow... (xbox only games.. not the oens that were on both systems and even pc) but it took them til the 360, and quite a bit after the 360 was released to come out with one decent game....

gears of war...

so games wise.. the only thing xbox has on sony period.. is gears of war... and this is even comparing 360 to ps-fucking-2...

like i said, halo was fun for all of about 15 minutes... halo 2 was no diffrent and i can bet halo 3 dosen't change anythign either...

[station]

i still stand by one of my earlier arguments.. why pay to play games online.. that's stupid... i mean people are always talking about all the extras that you 'need' for playstations (as of recent memory the fan thing to keep it cool) but here xbox, requires pretty much the same extras (fan aside) and they make you pay to play online....

there's no way xbox online is better than playstation online TO A POINT to where it requires you to pay for it... it's just another way for microsoft to get more money out of you (for those who are tryign ot say sony drains you for every dime they can)

and again.... we still have to look at one point.... 360 has been out for how long now? well over a year.... ps3 has just recently came out.. of course they're not going to have alot of good ps only games yet... most of them are just ps-ports from xbox games... just wait til this time next year, and wait for all the games that will be out for ps3 once the game makers have had a good chance to see what they can do with the system

you ask why pay for online? why not, when im getting so much out of it. the 360 online blows ps3 outta the water.theres so many options its endless not to mention being able to find ur friends online, have fun doin that with ur ps3. its just hands down better, i could go find a list of why the online owns over anythin but im to fuckin stoned and iv wasted my breath over all this way to much now and hearing you repeat ur self 100 times is sorta bothersome :wtf: and btw it isnt another way for microsoft to get money out of us. i laugh at that comment.

by the this time next year mircrosoft will understand there system even more so then sony and the games will fucking own even more, so yes i cant wait to laugh at sony once again for sucking. :D

[slipknotpsycho]

you ask why pay for online? why not, when im getting so much out of it. the 360 online blows ps3 outta the water.theres so many options its endless not to mention being able to find ur friends online, have fun doin that with ur ps3. its just hands down better, i could go find a list of why the online owns over anythin but im to fuckin stoned and iv wasted my breath over all this way to much now and hearing you repeat ur self 100 times is sorta bothersome :wtf: and btw it isnt another way for microsoft to get money out of us. i laugh at that comment.

by the this time next year mircrosoft will understand there system even more so then sony and the games will fucking own even more, so yes i cant wait to laugh at sony once again for sucking. :D

i've asked this exact question before... what does it have above other online play?? a universal buddy list? what?? how is xbox online so much better then ps3 online? it's not like xbox servers are so good, and ps servers suck and are always crashing (reliability) it's not like there's compatibility issues (all xbox games are always online, but you can only play ps games online on certain systems) so... if you're so damn smart, how about not just popping off at the mouth with comments like "ps3 sucks xbox is the king" and start naming fucking facts...

i want to see this list.. a side by side comparison? both systems servers are reliable... both systems servers offer a buddy list system... both systems servs are always on.... both systems servers always have room for more... so wtf does paying for online (xbox) get so much better then buying a fucking game (at the same price as the xbox games) and being able to get online without a bunch of extra bullshit and paying extra money out??? i mean are you just mentally retarded or do you not know the concept "just because you pay for it doesn't make it better"???

oh, btw, it is just another way for microsoft to get money out of you... explain how it isn't? one system can offer free online play, and for some reason the other can't??? does that make sense to you? sure the fuck doesn't make sense to me... and you're also the one to talk about repeating onesself 100 times.. dude all you've fucking said in the debateS (it isn't just in this thread) 100 times over "360 owns, ps3 sucks" you don't even give a reason... you're exactly what i was talking about when i said "bill gates cocksucker" you offer no insight whatsoever... you just have your system, and feel the need to put down everyone else's system... you're caught up in a fan war, and you don't even know anything about the systems specs...

you've yet to offer one peice of actual information, all your comments are pure opinion... which aren't very vast, becasue everything you say boils down to "360 owns ps3 sucks"... i said it in the other thread and i'll say it here agian, but i'll put it big so maybe you're narrow simplton mind can comprehend it...

JUST BECUASE YOU FUCKING SAY SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE

or do you not understand that? cuz i could sit here all day say 360 sucks (and have information to back it up on...) but does that mean the system actually sucks? no... i could also sit here saying i have 14 pounds of weed.. does that make it true? NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T...

as for your last assanine statement... first of all, microsoft doesn't need to understand their system to make games (i won't even go into how microsoft isn't the ones who make games... maybe you're too fucking retarded to understand that as well) second of all... it only takes 6months to a year (if that) for game developers to learn the true potential of a system and start using it... so when both have been out for a year, it doesn't fucking matter if xbox has been out longer.... all the developers will have an idea of the machines capability... the system isn't going to magically upgrade it's self and be more powerful then the day it was produced.... all that happens in that time is the developers start learning the limitations and ability of the fucking system....

so thank you for reading, you've just been 'owned' ... unless you can come back with fucking facts to support your claims, please stay the fuck outta my threads because you'r enothing more than a damn nuisance that has no idea what he's even talking about.. .just another cock sucking fan boy with no facts to back up claims... oh and btw, you'll notice i'm not just a fan boy because i've even said multiple times over both systems are about equal, they aren't the same, one has something on the otehr, and the other has something on the first.... but they are fucking equal in performance.. i've also said 360 is for those who want a powerful system but down have 600 something dollars to pay....

to everyone else, this little rant was brought to you by frustration directly triggered by this fucking asshat that has no idea what he's even talking about when he speaks.... he knows even less then the dude that comes up to you witha bag of shake full of stems and seeds and says "hey dude i got some dro, you wanna get high????" and if you don't believe me, read all of his posts involved in the entire 360vsWiivsPS3 debate.

[Tranquility]

god damn thats a shit load of words. lmfao

drop the hash and step away slowly man. It's for your own good lol. fuck actually pick that shit up and hit it big. cuz you need some more of that relaxed feeling.



lets not get worked up over 2 overpriced overmarketed pieces of shit. and as far as ps3 overheating let us not forget that xbox360 when released the big ass power cords housing units would get all melted and shit.


safe yo.

[slipknotpsycho]

i don't have any weed.. or i'd probably not care so much...

but this prick does irritate the living hell out of me.. it's like arguing with a 12 year old... they only say what they've heard cuz they have no knowledge on a subject.. atleast not enough to go and get involved in a debate... i'm serious look at his posts... all that ever comes out of his mouth is "360 owns ps3 sucks"

[Tranquility]

360>PS3



lmfao that does look like what he said.



fuck I'm outta weed guess its fucking resin time....yay.

[Rollafatblunt420]

have ne of you guys played saints row??? pretty badass..

hell ya saints row is bad as fuck dude.

[station]

lmfao type a lil more bud./ im not even gonna attempt readin that. probally just repeating your self again

oh did i mentiion xbox > the ps

[benagain]

I have a feelin that this thread could go on for a few years. That's about how long it will be before we can tell whos the 'best' system. Then there's the point about what makes it best. Is it the sales figures? Is it the hardware? the marketing? You get my point. Both systems are awesome. That's for sure.

I'm still gonna end up getting a wii before the other ones, but that doesn't mean I don't still want the other ones.

I have no problem recognizing greatness.

[slipknotpsycho]

lmfao type a lil more bud./ im not even gonna attempt readin that. probally just repeating your self again

oh did i mentiion xbox > the ps

dude please take your 12 year old dumbass into someone else's thread...

don't fucking come back here until you have proof to back up your claims...

[slipknotpsycho]

no he just irritates the living piss outta me >.< i've always hated people that say one things better then the other and that's all they ever say (or things like that) if you have something to show to prove your little theory fine.. or even if you hav esome info to offer, even if it's not real or won't stand up, still fine...

but he doesn't do that.. he even claimed he coudl show me some list of how one thing is better then the other, and when i caled him on it... well look back.. you'll see what he said..

btw, i've put him on ignore to further prevent getting irritated at him...

[station]

glade to hear Slip. thats where im adding you. your just an immature fuck. if someone says something againat wat ur saying u get all bent outta shape. i laugh in your general direction.

[OniEhtRedrum781]

360. Why? Three Words: Rainbow Six Vegas

[station]

360. Why? Three Words: Rainbow Six Vegas

DAMMMMMMM RIIIIIGHT:thumbsup:
(crackdown is a blast to)

[slipknotpsycho]

360. Why? Three Words: Rainbow Six Vegas

PlayStation.com - mozilla/4.0 (vbseo; http://www.vbseo.com) (http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Games/BLUS-30018)

[JackdaWack]

Every month the 360 comes out with new games that every one likes. Ps3 has what resistance. My friend has a ps3 and i almost got one when i bought my 360 but to be honest the ammount of ps3 sitting there not being bought siad something to me. Yeah u have to pay for xbox live, 4 dollars a months sorry dude thats sooooo much money, not to mention the ammount of shit u can actually download of live, game demos, trailers, u can get movies if u wanted to, they just have an awsome live platform, the the ps3 i didnt find to great but its free.

[slipknotpsycho]

see that's what iw as talking about, just some reason that puts 360 online above ps online.. (one of the main things me and station were arguing about) instead of telling me that he just said ps3 sucks and 360 owns... all i wanted was what it offered and he still couldn't provide that (that's why i ended up just ignoring him, i think he was purposely just trying to instigate an argument... takes two to argue, but i hate ignorant people)



as for the rest of the above post... yes xbox has alot more games, but it's also been out a year longer.. no one seems to look at that when they compare the games between the two systems... the only thing i can think of atm to compare that to would be like you playing a rpg like FFXI or WoW for a year, then finally getting your friend to join in... then within just a couple of months of him of joining, expecting him to have everything (levels, money, equipment, quests completed ect ect..) you have....

360 had a huge head start... if somehow ps3 decided upon it's release (after 360 has been out so long) to have a relatively close number of games.. they would all be complete shit....

as for the units sitting around in comparison... of course they're going to... just becuase they're not flying outta the store doesn't mean anything... except that not everyone can afford to get one... or will let themselves afford it... the price on it is ridiculous...

only actual true PS fans or people with alotta money to waste, i'd expect to really buy a ps3... you see two systems that are relatively equal in performance... but ones about 300$ cheaper... (atleast i think i'm not exactly sure on the price of the 360) and has more games (because of the head start) what do you think most people are going ot choose? it would just be illogical to have no real attachment to either, and decide you're going ot spend 300 extra...

[Pezzo]

360 : live n games

COD3, gears of war, farcry instints

best games i no of cept for few others but xbox has better games. U cant beat halo in my opinion, fkin legend cant wait for 3... who agrees? i havent read a lot of this convo as havent had time yet but my point goes wiv what others have said already

[slipknotpsycho]

you know you can get COD3 on both ps2 and ps3 right?

[stoneintheflesh]

slip,

i'm sorry you are mad that you went out and bought a ps3 for $600 bucks!

you could have bought a system w/more online players, better games, and far better online play.

don't get so mad just because 43%of replys to poll have said 360 is better.
and as far as the 23% that say playstation is better are probably still playing ps2.....

i wouldn't allow a playstation in my house simply because the original xbox killed. i mean killed ps2.........graphics.......online gameplay.......and ...HALO...

well good luck trying to sway anyones opinion who allready owns a 360.

i suggest listing your ps3 on ebay and converting to 360.....then you will agree w/ the majority and you can be on the right team.

:stoned:

[slipknotpsycho]

yeah tha'ts not gonna happen, i hate xbox.... i hate microsoft period... as i said befoer it's always stood for one thing... a handful of shit...

ok i'm just gonna have to show some cold hard facts...

Xbox-Scene Tutorial: XBOX error codes explained by Superfro (http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/errorcodes.php)

a list of common errors that can happen on their own, or even be shipped that way from he company (it has happened, i hav ewitnessed it... so just to send back your xbox to get it to work like it should have when it came outta the box, now you have to wait awhile and pay shipping...)

Xbox 360 Recall Likely (http://www.gameshout.com/news/112005/article1738.htm)

vauge talk of the great fumble on 360's first release...
XBox 360 recall - New Video Game Consoles (http://www.newvideogameconsoles.com/xbox360recall.html)

sony has only had one recall in the entire history of their systems... and it was only certain power adapters for the slim ps2's.... that's it...

i remember watching tv and people standing out in 2 lines infront of toys r us and shit when 360 released... one line was trying to return the damn thing for an exchange... they were turned away and forced to send it in... granted, it wasn't some extremely high number of people's systems screwing up... but it was more than enough that shoulda clued yal in that microsoft doesn't know what they're doing when it comes to gaming consoles.... xbox is literally teh only system i have EVER seen that has errors and problems... unless it's from user abuse... or accidents... let me rephrase.. they're the only systems i've ever seen come out of a box and not work.... all the way back to NES...

and for like maybe the fourth time now? i don't like halo.... it was fun for 15 minutes adn after that it was just boring..

also to your statement "you could have bought a system w/more online players, better games, and far better online play."

does anyone ever see the one + year headstart? or do you just conviently forget that part? of course ps3 isn't going to be equal in games, or online games, or online players yet... this shit just barely came out in the US... 360 has been around since the ending of 2005....

btw, i haven't even got my ps3 yet...

also, of course regular xbox was supperior in graphics and what not over ps2... they had newer technology to use then when the ps2 was designed.... but if you go back a page, you'll plainly see ps3 has a bit higher specs than 360...

nearly everyone i know that had a game system had xbox because it was the newest on th emarket and what not... you know what else i saw? i saw all the time sthey had to open it up and mess with it cuz of one of those errors i linked to above, my brother having to send his into the company because it didn't work outta the box...

atleast when i pull a playstation out of a box i KNOW it's going to work.

[stoneintheflesh]

since you know so much .

just why was your brother purchasing a xbox?

the recall is microsoft taking responsibility for a bad design.

sony on the other hand never replaced my ps2 so i bought an x box fixed my own ps2 and will never buy any game system they ever release.

i'm sorry you hate microsoft.

i don't hate playstation they r just inferior.

:stoned:

[JackdaWack]

this kid is all like wha wha wha wha wha i hate microsoft, well good for u, just because you hate them doesnt mean shit to me, My 360 has had no recalls no fuck ups, no freezes no nothing, it turns on and runs all the shit u posted is crap to me.

On a lighter note, i feel that ps3 just becuase its been out a year less then the 360 i feel should still have a good variety of games, they have had long enough to make game, i dont expect them to have the same ammount of games, but there is so many more in production and ready to be released just for the 360, i mean im waiting on GuitarH. and halo 3 right now. Not to mention crack down i want but cant afford, I truley feel bad for sony they fucked something up, the overpriced pos they call the ps3, they wanted something great in videos games, they got it, but no one wants it. 600 bucks for a gaming console is way to much money, i got the 360 for 500 with a extra controler and 2 games + rechargable batts. So if u look at it from a standpoint on price alone then i would say microsoft is better for the build, i mean ppl say they hate them but they put out a cheaper and apparently more popular product, i would say fuck sony for trying to make something thats just way too much money for video games. They should have made a 400 dollar one and a 600 dollar one. people might have bought it for 400, but they like to take out loads of stuff for 500 like 30 gigs isnt worth 100 minus the wi-fi, no wonder no one wants the 500 for an extra 100 u get so much more, but then who the fuck is going to spend 600 bucks, i waited on line at best buy for one, and no one there even wanted it, they were all seeling them on ebay, which flopped!!! hahah bastards prices dropped llike hell.

[JackdaWack]

Sony is just a half ass corporation. If you google, you'll see that not only are they lacking in the game department, but their other products don't always pass the test either.

It's true Microsoft is the same way, I mean Windows... christ.

It's just that this console generation, Microsoft outperformed Sony. Sony's specs may be a little hire, but the price and selecting are just on Microsoft's side. Who knows, this may change in the coming years. These console generations usually last awhile. In the long run, the PC is the best gaming platform. However, a good gaming PC is far more costly than any gaming system. Mine is cheap and it cost $850.

Microsoft is fine, ive run windows for years now with minor problems that were my own fault, its not there fault people crack there programs and hack into systems, u cant blame them for that, my windows sp2 runs perfect, u need to have all the control and protection u can get, its a highly targeted program dont forget.

[JackdaWack]

Hahahaha holy shit, also if i recall didnt the xbox come out after the ps2 and now the 360 comes out before the ps3, they built it faster and better apparently, its called economics and microsoft knows a years head start is all they need to dominate, thats why they shoved it out the door early, and if it breaks wtf ever dude they replace it, for free! im gonna drop mine when the warranty is up just to get a new one. forget the argument ps3 is like 10x harder to make games for, no one wants to put in the time and effort for a game no one can afford. get your head out of your ass slipnot, just cuase u got beef with microsoft doesnt mean they suck, it means your ignorant, ps3 isnt a horrible system but sony could have made it so much better, its the size of a fuckin vhs player, and it cost way to much to buy, games are to much to make, blueray can suck my dick cause sony is monoplying the idea, so yeah fuck sony, there sound equipment blows too.

[slipknotpsycho]

my brother didn't buy an xbox, it was given to him by our mother... he wanted a ps2, he probably woulda went to trade it in, but our mom woulda pitched a huge fucking bitch fit over it... so he didn't say anything... it sat in his room after the first couple of days, never got used or played... yet when he came over here he'd always be on my ps2...

*off topic for a second* the reason xp sp2 works virtually so well with little fuck ups, is that they've been constantly fixing bugs on it since like 2003... pop in vista, it's so new, it's filled to the brim with bugs and problems, it'll probably be a year or so before the majority of the kinks get worked out.

''i waited on line at best buy for one, and no one there even wanted it"

did you actually ask everyoen in the store if they just didn't want the ps3.. or is there a good chance they can't afford it... YES sony FUCKED UP with those prices... the price of the system is goign to really hurt their sales... i wouldn't be suprised if xbox sells nearly double of the ps3... but that doesn't mean no one wants one... it'd be pretty hard to convince your middle class parents to buy you a 600+ dollar system... it'd be kinda hard to justify to yourself (assuming you work to make your money) dropping 600+ on a system... maybe (i doubt it but we can hope) sony will see this price factor and maybe start dropping the prices faster... ps2's didn't drop in price til after a year or so of being out... it's a slim chance but one can hope.

as for the get the head outta my ass statement... well it's actually alot of other people in this thread that have it there... if i had my head in my ass, i wouldn't admit 360 is about equal to the ps3... btw, go back a page or so and read the specs again.. the ps3 is a bit more powerful then the 360... to keep saying it's not is arrogant.. it's right there, proof in the specs.

"its the size of a fuckin vhs player, and it cost way to much to buy, games are to much to make"

1st.. it's not really any bigger then a 360 or the older ps2's... next... you have confused me with the game are too much to make... ? you're not a designer so the price to produce a game shouldn't really matter to you, new gams on 360 and ps3 are both 60$...

next, with blueray, you don't gotta say it can suck your dick just because 360 doesn't come with blueray.... blueray can hold even more information then a DVD.... which means more in depth, detailed, unique games..

if you think i have my head in my ass, go through the entire thread again... i give credit where credit is due... maybe you should read my entire posts and get the general idea of what i'm saying, instead of just picking out certain little parts you want to argue over... just a suggestion.

[Newbie87]

if i could have 2 choices it would be the nintindo oldies and 360. although the ps3 hasn't been out that long, it will soon be up there or maybe past the other systems. don t bother me i just like to play them.

[affasd]

gears of war and vegas are reason enough to buy 360, both of them kick ass to play on live.

[Thepossumdance]

let me break this down for you... my brother owns a Wii and a PS3 and I live with him... The PS3 is a) gigantic and i mean fucking massive and heavy and yes ive played on Xbox 360 it is much smaller and lighter and less cumbersome than the PS3 b) the games are... terrible and i mean completely worthless c) nearly 3 times the price of the Wii and about one sixth the fun...

I dont really play video games anymore... but i have to say the Wii is a breath of fresh air in console gaming... i really did not understand why anyone would continue to buy consoles after the prior generation but the Wii has given them a reason to continue it is the only thing that does things your computer can not and for a reasonable price..

im not trying to insult anyone but please please please dont buy a PS3

and for all those who think it is going to get better... no its not...
there will never be a PS4 because Sony's gaming devision is nearing its end...

[slipknotpsycho]

Xbox 360: 309mm W x 83mm H x 258mm

PS3 Dimensions: Approximately 325mm (W) x 98mm (H) x 274mm

that is not that big of a diffrence....


btw, what were you talking about when you said "nearly 3 times the price of the Wii and about one sixth the fun..."?

the games on wii are 50$ that's only 10 dollars cheaper then the games on the other two... and i can't find a price on the actual wii (only bundles) but i know it's not 200$...

[budsmoker only]

i think the wii is 250...

[slipknotpsycho]

hmm... i remember skink posting awhile back when everyone was fighting at the stores for them.. o.0 he wanted to know if anyone wanted to forward money to him and he'd get 'em one cuz his walmart had them... but i thought i remembered him saying they were going for liek 400? could be wrong tho... but percentage wise... that's closer to 2x the price, not 3...

[Thepossumdance]

its 250... look man u can look up specs on the sizes all u want I have personally handled all three systems (the Wii and PS3 the most obviously) and I find the PS3 to be very heavy and oddly shaped and just cumbersome... then again size is probably the last thing ur gonna look at when buying a console... the point is... THE GAMES ARE TERRIBLE and Sony is doing nothing to encourage good 3rd party dev's to want to make good games for them... I'm not trying to disrespect anyone I'm just trying to stop anyone from making a really big mistake...

[slipknotpsycho]

name some TERRIBLE games then... i bet i can find a counterpart...

matter of fact, one of the games i want is only going to be on ps3, but orignally it was an xbox game... most the other games are on BOTH systems... do you want me to find those as well?

cuz you saw how that whole size argument went down the drain.... you can say you handled 'em all you want.... but the facts are right there staring you in the face.. measurments doesn't lie about the size... even tho that is of no concern to me... as you said, wtf does size really have to do with anything anyways? just a failed argument at why 360 or wii is "better" lol....

computers, tvs, monitors, and lots of other things people look at size... but not gaming consoles.. i've never once heard "i would get it, but it's too bulky!" or "i was thinking of getting it, but i think i'ma go with <name> cuz it's a bit smaller..." :p

anyways... i'll more than likely get bored and go through all the games on ps3, and find it's sister game that's on xbox... in every single console there are only a handful (when you consider all the games on systems) that are system only original... the vast majority are on more than one system... so quite honestly, if it sucks on ps3, it sucks on xbox too... EDIT: that doesn't mean it won' thave a diffrent name, but they'd both be using the exact same engine and have virtually teh exact same graphics and game play.. just so that's clear now.

check back later, like i said, i'm tired of this whole game argument, so i'm just going ot have to lay down the facts tehre too (since NO ONE really wants to look at them, and just listen to what every fan boy has told them, or what they've heard about all the fan boys.... or generally what they've heard from other people... if i wasn't forming my own opinion, and just wanted to follow the bandwagon i'd probably go 360 as well (if i was to ignore past experiences with xbox period..)

anyways... find a game that SUCKS on ps3... i bet you really can't... well maybe you can.. but it'd be one of those games any real gamer wouldn't be caught dead playing.. like... brittney spears singing game thingy... or soem shit like that.. it's not their racing games, or their FPS's, or their action or adventure games... it's always that complete shit no one can beileve they made into a game...

otherwise post a game, tell me how it sucks.. then maybe i'll give some credit to your 'theories' cuz as of now, you haven't given any specifics, just general complaints... generalized ideas that anyoen can say about any system...

atleast i can give specifics on my arguments.

[slipknotpsycho]

matter of fact, i'll take thta back, i'm not gonna waste my time on finding all the game comparison's, just becuase i knwo i'm going to do all that work, and no one's going to pay any attention to it (like they've yet to pay attention to any one argument i've posted... everyone's got it set in their head and they're not listening to anything.. so why bother? it's like trying to get a republican to listen to democratic ideas..)

if someone challenges me to it i will.. or IF this damn game argument keeps up i will have to... but i'm not gonna waste my time if no one's going to pay attention...

i've done been over all the ps3 games back and fourth... so i know what they have to offer as of right this minute in games...

i'm also very particular about my games, if they sucked, i wouldn't even give them a thought... well sucked in performance and abilites and what not.... of course everyone has an opinion to what they like.... just like i think halo is a gay ass game that's far outlived it's fun... i'm also not the only one that thinks that either... i don' expect everyone thinks that... or the majority of people, so don't that idea either... but i'm not the only one tha'ts played it for 15-30 mins and said "ok this shit is just boring, put in something else" .. (and yes ps has games liek that too... so don't waste your breath trying to build an argument against me, giving me the image that i think all ps games are some spectacular hit that no one could resist.... driver series.. resident evil series... just as starters..)

[Thepossumdance]

dude im sorry the PS3 is till very ugly, heavy and cumbersome much more than any system (i know its not a big deal but it is still very annoying at times, more often then you would think)

1st off... its double and triple the prices of the other systems
now games
madden- terrible, but i guess all the next gen maddens are bad so w/e
resistance- stupid boring nothing new to add to the shooter genre just another bad rehashed FPS idea with pretty graphics (and this was supposed to be their amazing launch title)

my brother has a third game for it which he really doesnt like (racing game i think) but ive never played it so i wont say anything else

there is a reason every game and PC magazine on the planet is describing the PS3 as a massive failure and speculating on Sony's ability to recover from it... I own one (sorta) and still hate it... I'm not trying to be a dick I just dont want other people to waste lots (i mean lots) of money on this thing
last thing Sony customer support is some of the worst in the world I really would like to kill them

I agree Halo is worthless

I personally think that you all save ur money go buy a better PC or upgrade ur current one and not waste money on any console but w/e no one ever listens to me anyway do w/e you guys want... I was really just trying to help

[affasd]

Also, i dont own either but I own a Wii, and im fuckin disappointed man, I mean ok wii sports was fun for a while but seriously like im just bored as shit with it, and ok why the fuck cant i play dvds in it, fuckin stupid, game selection sucks ass. And what the fuck why wait to have online play, why not just fucking release it on time with the system for fucks sakes. All i can say is i better be able to play COD3 online when that shit comes out.

srry im just pissed cause i bought a wii instead of 360. And also I agree with above poster, PC > all, so much nicer to just be able to upgrade your thing as you need then by a new system every time one comes out.

[slipknotpsycho]

again looks (as size) has nothing to do with a console.. for the most part in most peoples house, it's behind a closed door in an entertainment center or in a bedroom where people don't generally hang out (but then again, i'm over 18... nothing about age except most anyoen i go hang out with has an apartment or something and we chill in the living room or w/e) i dunno why you keep trying ot make arguments on size or looks, if ps3 has so much against it?

and i'm just curious, honestly...

sports games mean nothing to me, so please name another game... but wait you can't.. cuz you just admitted you've only played 3... by the 3rd quarter of this year (not that far off really) there will be over 50 titles as of NOW, there may even be more added to the slate since i've last looked.. (was checking around back in Dec.)

so you've played 3 out of, well i don't have an exact number that is out as of this minute so i'll just say, 3 out of a hell of alot more htan 3 games and you've came to the conclusion all the games on ps3 suck?

LMFAO! do you realize that'd be like me picking up maybe five games on 360 and saying all the games on 360 suck? when you put it that way, doesn't it seem just a bit arrogant?? maybe ignorant, can't decide of the proper wording atm..

i don't need to make my pc any better... won't need to upgrade for quite a while infact... (not that this hsould be relevant but since you brought it up..) core 2 duo processor, 2 gigs ram, radeon x1950 pro extreme video card, tv tuner card (not that that's important in gaming) 7.1 surround sound, and 500 gig harddrive... my pc is the least of my worries...

it coudl easily run Doom 3, and last i heard, that was one of the most demanding games... even if there are more demanding games now.. like i said, it could EASILY run doom 3... not just 'could run it'

and i already said this before, i dunno why anyone has a 'comeback' so to speak (you can consider it an argument/fight, but i consider it more of a debate... i'm not getting insulting and throwing around a bunch of BS in between (except for station, i admitted to doing that, and that's cuz he was plain annoying, he never had any reasons for anything, just again, general "360 owns ps3 sucks, i don't even think he knows anything about consoles, just repeating what he's heard) i'm asking for facts, and offering facts in return... anyways i've already said this before and don't understand why it is continually coming up since i've said this is a major downfall... the pricing.. i even capatlized it... SONY fucked up WITH THE PRICES.. and badly... they basicly took their usually somewhat affordable systems out of all the middle class-poorish people, and made it just generally available to people with money to waste/stupid people who don' thave it but like pawn off everything they have just to get it... like i said, if anything, the pricing will be the downfall of sony.. that price could very well destroy them.... and i plainly admit this...

however.... the stats speak for themselves... overall, the ps3 is a more powerful machine... period. the stats are right there... again in your face (not the OH IN YOUR FACE! type crap, but right there, plain as day...)

btw, do you even know anything about resistance, or did you just watch/play for all of 5 minutes? i'm not saying it's some absolute godly game.. but it is much farther progress then ever before... the NPC's (non playable characters) don't even say the same annoying 5-10 lines over and over, like EVERY single FPS out before hand... they all have diffrent shit to say... that's where blueray comes into play in this game.. it can store ALOT more info... producers of resistance chose to use this capability in sound... it can also be used for gameplay of the game (levels, larger maps, and all that) or video.. (although i don't think any have tried ot harness that capability yet... )

i'm not sure what thread i posted this in... but if it weren't for my settlement money coming, i wouldn't be seeing a ps3 for years yet... but i just happen to be getting thousands.. (after lawyer fees about 6.6k) and as i said before i don't like/trust xbox... PS has never let me down..

and i will promise this right now...

if i am honestly dissapointed by next year (gotta give it time to get off the ground...) i will erase my entire sig and wear a basic "i told you so" sig for 6 months... i will list everyone's name who tried to tell me i was making a mistake and put somethign along the lines of "i'm sorry i was wrong, i'll pay attention from now on" or w/e you want me to say in it....

i'm that confident i won't be disappointed.... none of yal even know this, but i gave xbox a fair try... i spent months and months playing it with a friend, diffrent games, halo parties all that crap... it was never "me" i didn't like the controller, one of my MAIN (but not only) concerns... i hated all those stupid ass errors i kept seeing... every week someoen at the party woudl have to disect it.. and th eonly reason THEY could fix it, was because they were true computer nerds.. the average user would have to send that crap in (like my brother) i gave xbox a fair shot... months and months of trial and i still didn't like it, i ended up buying a ps2 instead.... and i coulda got a used (but completely working) xbox from one of those friends... for about 100 less then my ps2 cost me... i just dislike xbox that damn much... nothing i ever saw it do or anythign on it, was good enough to keep my attention, and all the errors that are possible, make it even worse... a ps2 (dunno about ps3) is simple enough... the only error i've ever had with one... (although, if you aren't careful with that removing memory card shit they do have a nasty habbit of reformatting your memory card, which means it erases everything saved but that's easily solved wiht a simple back up on another memory card.. most people have atleast one laying around they don't even really need... so it's not htat big of a deal..) is "disc read error" which means you put in a disc that a console isn't supposed to read (AOL install disc for example) or you've fucked up the disc so bad it can't read it (which is a user end problem, and not with the ps2..)

there was this one time a friend pulled a brand new disk out by it's edges.. on a regular ps (which is possible also on ps2 slim model, neither has a disc tray, its where you just 'click' the disk on the drive) anyways, brand new game, and he pulled it out on the edges (not one finger in the middle, also again not a problem whit ps directly... just the design of the particular disc drive, it can happen on a cd player as well, and it ripped the drive out...)

[Thepossumdance]

personally... I kinda think they(xbox 360 Wii PS3) all suck... I find Wii fun but I really dont play it that much and i could see how it could get boring... However, more scripted lines is not exactly what I would call innovation...
I've kinda realized that I look like an asshole for arguing over something that really is just a simple case of personal choice which only the purchaser can make correctly... so i appologize

look at what valve plans to do with their new game "The Crossing" that idea blew my fucking mind

[slipknotpsycho]

crossplayer? is that what you were refering to?

i can't really fidn much, just people talking about crossplayer....

soooooooo..... WTF IS CROSSPLAYER? as far as i know here's only single and multiplayer... what else can there be? playing by yourself (or with computers) or playing with other players (also can be with computers) ....?

how about you just tell me what exactly is so good about it... o.0 cuz all i can find is 'crossplayer'

oh yeah... i don't tend to argue over shit like this either... but it's a natural response to people just perpetuating what they hear other people say, instead of looking at cold hard facts... much like the govt. has alot of people doing with weed (among other things)

[Thepossumdance]

the crossplayer idea in the crossing is basically that while you are playing through your single player campain when the game needs to include AI character enemies it sends out an invite to people playing multiplayer skirmishes online to come join your single player game as these enemy players.. they are however still overmatched by you just like a comp player would be. Apparently there will be rewards for playing as the bad guys in other players SP campains to encourage people to do this...I just find this to be an awesome idea and im really excited to be able to play in someone elses single player campain

[slipknotpsycho]

hm.... well that's not completely new.... i mean the idea of being the enemies in a single player campaign is kinda... but re online (dunno what it was called, but i remember him telling me that when you die on the game you can become a zombie and start attacking the players... tho this was really early, before it was actually even out (a couple of weeks from release) so it may not be true... but he seemed to of had alot of info pointing to this... becuase he had heard other rumors he didn't give credit to, this he gave alot of credit to... kinda like everyone already knew this somehow.. i dunno how to explain it.. o.0)

with that said... if what he told me is true then the idea behidn it isn't entirely new to gaming, if it is false, it's not something new to everyone, just no one's put it in a game until now...

still sounds awesome tho....

[Thepossumdance]

true there may be other forms similar but i find the whole system (picking players out of DM games online) really cool... w/e could be awesome or jsut a gay marketing ploy lol time will tell

[slipknotpsycho]

i'll be keeping an eye on it, sounds intresting...

like taking the whole single player campaign type shit to a whole new level, instead of just pre-programmed functions (even some of the 'high tech AI' they're putting in games now still makes you feel like you're playing a retard...) you got people who can think, and use the enviroment to their advantage (aside from ducking down under vehicles for a shot or peeking around corners, or crouching behidn a short wall....)

i dunno how well that'll work tho... multiplayer campaign? maybe... but going against a bunch of other people and trying to be rambo LOL... well tha'ts gonna make the game last a good damn long time to say the least... (actually that's prefered, i hate getting a game and 2 days later being done with it... it's really fucking annoying, even the hardest games i have done... makes me really wonder why i don't rent anymore... wtf is the point in continuing to buy a 50$ or so game if it doesn't have online play (like BLACK) if it's going to out live is' ussage in 3 or so days...)

but i could also see alot of people getting mad and giving up on it, cuz they just keep dying over and over....

[ToDrunkToFish]

Well slipknot I read some of your, rather... long posts about such a topic and want to ask why is it so bothersome? If the kid says the 360 pwns the ps3 let him talk whatever he wants just like the little annoying kids with mic's on the internet...

Im also quite outa it too, but it seems while yet equal you seem to not like the xbox and the 360. I dont see how payin for online service is bad, its 50$ a year. Full membership and everything. And ive NEVER had any problems with the servers. Half the games on the 360 dont even have servers they pick the hostee of the game and essentially make them the 'host' and play off their connection. And seein as the Ps3 costs 200$ more then the 360 thats four years of Xbox Live. And im sure in another 3 years there will be a newer/bigger thing. And im satisfied as fuck with the 360 features (online)

Private Chat, messaging, very in-depth stats in game and on websites, invite games, compare games, and the Feedback/Rep system works awsome, xbox arcade and the Marketplace is outstanding. I dont know what the Ps3 has but I dont hear anything as the 360's online system.

And you say that a good reason why the 360 is doin better is its been out 'forever', for one its been a year and 3 months and that is not a long period of time at all. And I dont see why havin the 360 dealt out first has any negative effect in this debat. If anything it shows that microsoft knew what it was doing and shelled out somthin just as good as Ps3 in less time. And if anything that extra year should of added more 'hype' to the system. Instead more got lured into the 360 with the good reviews.

Yea the Ps3 may have some good games comin out but the 360 is just gona match it (Halo 3, Brothers in Arms, Halo Wars, Resident Evil, Battlefield games, Unreal 2007) and not including the already popular games out. But the thing I saw you post was Sony fucked with the prices. And thats gona stick with it for a while. And also since the 360 has been out for a year the bugs/glitches have *mostly* been fixed/or dealt with. Unlike the 600$ Ps3.

I could go on, about games, the original games, opinions, and go on that the Ps3 has better 'specs' but it seems that they arent even being used. The 360 isnt too far behind. And I really dont care. So what that the Ps3 can read a 100 page book while the 360 is on page 95. Its almost the fuckin same.

And not tryin to start anythin or even if I know wtf im talkin about but I was tryin to be more insightfull then 'station' in tryin to show you how the 360 will be more of choice even when the future comes. Respond please, ive had this debate many-a-times but every time theres always more facts or more time to completely change the debate. Thanks.

[slipknotpsycho]

i meant to respond sooner, but i had to go somewhere, i'm quite high at the moment for the first time in 3 months and i just want to enjoy it...

[slipknotpsycho]

ok maybe it's cuz i got high.. but i'm tired of arguing over this really, so i'm just gonna let it go.... i've pretty much made every point i can, i wasn't expecting to change anyone's idea, and i hope no one wanted to change mine cuz i'm still going to be getting my ps3...

all i'll say in response to the last post... is if you can't see how a system being out for a year before another one could make a diffrence... well i guess you're not looking at what i'm looking for... the main argument on all this crap, is 360 has more game... of course it has more games, it's been out for a year now... it's not like all the game makers sitting there lining up game after game for when the system is released, there's only a handful upon release..

anyways... i'm tired of arguing over it so i'm letting it go... i may bring it up again, but it'll be after both have been out a year + as i said earlier in the thread, that's the sweet spot for any new system... it's where all the game companies start figuring out how they can push the system to it's max, without creating an unstable game, meaning they figure out how to use what they have available... and there's a wide spread assortment of games.... originals to cross systems..

[station]

Thank you Billionfold . Your fucking right.

this thread done yet?? lol

[benagain]

It's all about the games. In this generation of consoles, it doens't matter how long you've been out.
Remember the dreamcast came out before the ps2 and was widely popular and was supposed to be the next 'big' system on the block.

We all know how that went.
Both the PS3 and the 360 will make plenty of money given sony can keep a few exclusives to themselves. Virtua figher is gonna be hitting the PS3 first as well as the exclusive motorstorm. Not a bad place to be for sony at the moment. They're not doing as well as they would have liked, but they're not nearly as bad off as everyone claims.

[benagain]

Ohh and one more thing..... FFXIII......nuff said.

:thumbsup:

[slipknotpsycho]

motocross and full auto 2 are two of the first games i'll be gettin...

i like how in motocross the tires of vheicles actually put ruts in the road...now the question is, will it actually affect racing (as real ruts would do) or are they just for fancy looks.

[benagain]

motocross and full auto 2 are two of the first games i'll be gettin...

i like how in motocross the tires of vheicles actually put ruts in the road...now the question is, will it actually affect racing (as real ruts would do) or are they just for fancy looks.

The gaming engine is capable of the physics. Its just a matter of how lazy the developer is in making the game.

I've heard a few times that the 360 is supposed to be easier to develop for, but I haven't heard an indifferent developer comment on it. The only 'official' statement about this I've heard is from the microsoft folks and a few xbox fanboys. I think at this point, the ps3 is not as easy to work on as it's still new. I'm hearing that game makers are just now starting to get used to the capabilities of the machine.

I don't think it's a battle of gaming systems (both are awesome). It's a battle between marketing and development contracts. Whoever can produce the most exclusive innovative titles will win the money. so far microsoft is winning and sony is catching up fast......however I hear the line is out the door for people wanting to develop for the wii.
Sorry I cant' help but mention it all the time. I think I'm the only one here that likes it, but I get excited at the gaming difference it brings to the table.:)

[slipknotpsycho]

ok :rolleyes: i was confused why you quoted me... so i'll take it that first sentence was for me... ?

if so, i sure hope they're not that lazy.... shit like that would certainly add a certain replay value to games... i.e. with racing games you coudln't get everything down to a science and know when to turn, what sides to avoid ect ect... you'd have to go with instinct and reflex... taking gaming to a new level.. sure those AI's of the end of the latest systems are smarter compared to previous systems... but they're still no where near a warrior as even a mediocre player would be....

[benagain]

ok :rolleyes: i was confused why you quoted me... so i'll take it that first sentence was for me... ?

if so, i sure hope they're not that lazy.... shit like that would certainly add a certain replay value to games... i.e. with racing games you coudln't get everything down to a science and know when to turn, what sides to avoid ect ect... you'd have to go with instinct and reflex... taking gaming to a new level.. sure those AI's of the end of the latest systems are smarter compared to previous systems... but they're still no where near a warrior as even a mediocre player would be....

LOL
Yea, the first line was commenting on what you said. The rest is some stuff I barely remember typing. ;)

I'm hoping that features like this will take off in most games, but I don't think itll happen in all. Even if it was possible to make driving in a game just like the real thing, not all games would be like it. It's gonna depend on what genre of game your playing (arcade, action, sim).
Like the difference between Grand Turismo, burnout, and mario cart. Basic functions will be the same, but some games will be more 'realistic'.

[slipknotpsycho]

no you can't!

[benagain]

PS3: Anything you can do I can do better.
Xbox360: I can do anything better than you.
PS3: No you can't!
Xbox360: Yes I can!
PS3: No you can't!
Xbox360: Yes I can!
PS3: No you can't!
Xbox360: Yes I can! YES I CAN!

LMAO

:D

[illuminati]

Take THAT PS3!!

I bought a 360 JUST for Halo 3.

I only play Halo 2 on it right now.

Eat a fatty sony.

[benagain]

Take THAT PS3!!

I bought a 360 JUST for Halo 3.

I only play Halo 2 on it right now.

Eat a fatty sony.

Tell me you've got gears of war. I like me some halo, but what little I've got to play of gears of war blew me away.

[budsmoker only]

^^ well then you bought it pretty early.. haha.. thats to illuminati... and i like playin halo for sure..

[Pezzo]

Take THAT PS3!!

I bought a 360 JUST for Halo 3.

I only play Halo 2 on it right now.

Eat a fatty sony.

ye man, halo, gears of war, COD3, farcry they all v gd games..

Take it u got live? add me m8 n we can v at halo 2 only u cant find a quick match on it u have to insert players manually...

Windblownsnail <<< C u there muhahahaha

[slipknotpsycho]

ye man, halo, gears of war, COD3, farcry they all v gd games..

Take it u got live? add me m8 n we can v at halo 2 only u cant find a quick match on it u have to insert players manually...

Windblownsnail <<< C u there muhahahaha

o.0 again, COD3 is not only on ps2 but ps3... gears of war looks fuckin great tho... if it wouldn't cost me 400+ i'd get a 360 just to play gears of war... i wish they'd atleast put it on pc...

[prlito9mm]

GRaphics comparison on some game with both systems...360 wins in almost all of them!

Xbox 360 Versus PlayStation 3 Graphics Comparison - Features at GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html)

[higher4hockey]

im surprised this thread is still going....i just dont see an arguement for the ps3 being a better system than the 360.

i think all it is , is people get stuck in their ways and refuse to cahnge or admit defeat....kind of sounds like the gov't with reefer doesnt it?

[Pezzo]

^^ that sounds like it

[slipknotpsycho]

i agree minus the defeat thing... this is all based on opinion, so there is no right or wrong answer, thus meaning no defeat...

besides, after thought i finally just gave up the argument... so it's not really still going :p

[Dest]

i would say 360, but if you really know your stuff you realize that PC owns all of these systems- and if you dont belive me just look at the upcomeing DX10 game "crysis"

[slipknotpsycho]

of course pc owns all... when new technology is out, you can upgrade your pc to use it... of course you have a harddrive where most of the information is stored, so you're not limited to what you can fit on a single cd (or sometimes 2)

[higher4hockey]

the only problem with pcs , is they aren't as social of a system as xbox and playstation are. granted you can play on-line, but how often do you sit around with your buddies playing ?

[slipknotpsycho]

i actually did it alot... lol.... if tehre's just one computer, we take turns, seeing who can do the best and whatnot... and i've been known to get on my wife's comp (while she's not here) and let someoen get on mine, and play games...

they can be pretty social lol... just depends on the people around you... some people can't afford decent computers (ones that could handle the newer games with no problems) a decent rig can run up quite a bit of money... but seeing 2 or 3 computers in a single home is becoming a more common occurance...

plus not to mention they're no where near as limited as consoles are.... consoles will always have a set ammount of features and you can't break those boundaries... a game doesn't support a headset? guess what on console you have to deal without.... but same game pc, you can get a ehadset to work, just getting something like teamspeak...

and the real kicker... is a game isn't online compatible on console? well, on pc you can make the game online... i've seen it done myself with vice city lol.. it was called multi theft auto... can't buy it in stores or anything, it was just some random programmer who wanted to make vice city online, so he took the game (the one you buy in the store) messed around with some of it, and turned it online, all you needed to get on was like a 5 mb (i think, something small like that) file put in one certain folder...

of course there was a lot of problems with it (when i found it, it had just been out like a month, it was still really buggy, that was a few years ago i'm not sure if they got everything worked out or not) but the point is, the only limitations with pc's is how much money you can put in it, and your own imagination...

you can even play 2 player offline games just by getting a dual screen video card (pretty common these days) and putting in a 2nd porting for mouse and keyboard, of course it's not just plug and play (i can imagine there would be some software to tweak with but i know it can be done as i've seen it done)

[benagain]

Needless to say, a good gaming PC is 2 or 3 times more expensive then consoles.

You're aboslutely right.

And what criterea are we using to determine what system is best? The only argument I've heard for the 360 is "A guy I know has one and we play cool looking games on it", or "The graphics are so much better". This isn't true. It's also a matter of opinion.

Like the screen shots that were posted. Am I the only guy who thought the PS3 screens looked better? The lighting was much more crisp and well defined.

I've said it a hundred times though...screen resolution and good graphics an awesome system does not make. It's about quality of games.

I think some fanboys are just hung up on the 360 becayse it's been out longer.

[Reefer Rogue]

I had a ps2, i never liked xbox. I gave the 360 a chance and i love it. I don't mind paying 40 pounds a year for online, that's nothing to me. It's great you get to d/l loads of demos, can send voice messages, voice chat, join ppls games, there's so many things. I have GOW, but i never play it coz i don't like it. I prefer more realistic shooters, which is why i play rainbow 6 vegas and cod3 most, but mostly RB6V. I used to play halo 2 but like i said, it's too unrealistic for me, i hate shields.

I think the reason xbl is better then ps3 online is because more people will be playing it, therefore more competition. Especially with mlg... The ps3 may have the same games as xbox 360 but its not worth spending the extra amount of money for graphics which aren't largely superior to the 360's. The price has doomed the ps3, i may buy it in a years time when it has good games and is actually being sold at a reasonable price.

[benagain]

It's the blueray drive thats killing the cost of the Ps3. without it, you're looking at a pretty affordable console. No one really cares about the blueray disk though so no ones jumping on it.

[ZeldaG.]

okay i just had to add this to the arguement not sure if anyones mentioned it before cos i only know what it is now so if anyone has said:

''PLUS THE PS3 HAS HOME''

that meant squat to me at the time lol as it probably does to you now lol so to find out what i mean follow this link

YouTube - Official Sony PS3 Home Video Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquAXKeEI0)

(sorry for not linking properly but bt browser seems to think that hyperlink icon is a link and it opens a page which cannot be found lol- if you know what i mean anyway it isnt as hard to copy and past as it looks i am sure youll fidn a thorough guide to it on google :-P )

[rebgirl420]

Im a playstation girl, but i love playing Madden and DOOM on Xbox360! But who can forget pacman and the other classics?

[slipknotpsycho]

okay i just had to add this to the arguement not sure if anyones mentioned it before cos i only know what it is now so if anyone has said:

''PLUS THE PS3 HAS HOME''

that meant squat to me at the time lol as it probably does to you now lol so to find out what i mean follow this link

YouTube - Official Sony PS3 Home Video Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquAXKeEI0)

(sorry for not linking properly but bt browser seems to think that hyperlink icon is a link and it opens a page which cannot be found lol- if you know what i mean anyway it isnt as hard to copy and past as it looks i am sure youll fidn a thorough guide to it on google :-P )

wow.. o.0 i didn't know it had that... why do i see my wife on my ps3 now more then me? :wtf:

[ZeldaG.]

hey i guess it done the link anyway lol

yeah it sounds cool

ign have lots of info on it IGN: Home (http://uk.ps3.ign.com/objects/891/891773.html#news)

but i couldnt find the release date on that thing, but after some googling i think it will be november 07.

is that you see your wife on your ps3 more than (she is on) you

or that she plays it more than you play it? :P

[slipknotpsycho]

i don't have my ps3 yet, but she loved the sims, for some reason i see her getting on my ps3 when i get it and that's released just to play with that crap .... o.0

[ZeldaG.]

oh so you must be another poor bloke somewhere in europe waiting for this friday like me :D

well i am happy to anoucne that there is only 3 days left

lol and sicne it is 23.07 in 53 minutes there will be just 2 days left :jointsmile:

so good luck, and i hope you dont get shot in the quee :thumbsup:

[halfassedjediknight]

i vote 360. havnt played the ps3 and at the price i probably wont for years.

as for the wii, i dont care for it. motion sensed controls arent anything too spectacular for me anyways. the thing for video games that gets me is capabilities. i like to smash the walls around me, or blow up cars and work with the environment. i dont care for a new way to play.

[bluntblaze]

could someone who knows about this technology and stuff help me?

i can either get a ps3 or a 360..... ive been with playstation for years and would like the ps3.and to be honsest the only reason i wanted a ps3 is because of gta IV

so what one should i get???

[slipknotpsycho]

i think you should take a look at all the games that are out, and coming out on both systems to make thta decision.... as we've covered in these pages, both have their ups and downs both are about equal, where one excells, another excells somewhere else....

i'ts gonna come down to games mostly... playstation.com has alot of the games that are slated to be released (including screenshots and some have videos, etc...)

oh yeah, gta IV will be simultaneously released on both ps3 and 360...

[bluntblaze]

ive just decided...... ps3.

and the only thing that made my mind up was the fact my ps2 is on its last legs and i think its only got a few more months left in it. so id have all those ps1 and 2 games there and not being able to play them...... so ps3 it is.

[O. G. ganja smoker]

yea but i bet anything the PS3 version will be better than the 360 version of GTA IV. SONY will out last xbox when the xbox becomes obsolete because its a cheap piece of shit only a lil better than the PS2 so who cares if xbox has been around longer when people will be playing the ps3 after Sony dominates in a couple years WATCH i know i would be the type of person to want to play this game to its full potential and that can only be avalible through the PS3 consle witch has alot of tech advantages i dont care that its big and heavy its not like im taking it everywhere i go thats for the future portable gaming systems

[Boricua]

Xbox 360 OBVIUSLY. Specially with the new update that has integrated messenger!!

[bluntblaze]

yea but i bet anything the PS3 version will be better than the 360 version of GTA IV. SONY will out last xbox when the xbox becomes obsolete because its a cheap piece of shit only a lil better than the PS2 so who cares if xbox has been around longer when people will be playing the ps3 after Sony dominates in a couple years WATCH i know i would be the type of person to want to play this game to its full potential and that can only be avalible through the PS3 consle witch has alot of tech advantages i dont care that its big and heavy its not like im taking it everywhere i go thats for the future portable gaming systemsi read somewhere that 360 IV wont be as good because of the hard drive or something like that...... ill try and find it.

[bluntblaze]

20 days or less untill i get a ps3 can't fucking wait..... anybody got any suggestions for games to get.

[slipknotpsycho]

i read somewhere that 360 IV wont be as good because of the hard drive or something like that...... ill try and find it.

actually, 360 is supposed to be better.. it's supposed to have all kinds of extras you can get (not sure exaclty what those are supposed to be tho)

those extras tho aren't enough to make me change my mind on getting a ps3...

[bluntblaze]

actually, 360 is supposed to be better.. it's supposed to have all kinds of extras you can get (not sure exaclty what those are supposed to be tho)

those extras tho aren't enough to make me change my mind on getting a ps3...yeh that would be through online play but tbh i dont really care about online play.

ill try and find the thing where i read that though. because to me i makes sense.

but as far as i know just now the smaller details in ps3 gta will be better.

[slipknotpsycho]

yeh that would be through online play but tbh i dont really care about online play.

ill try and find the thing where i read that though. because to me i makes sense.

but as far as i know just now the smaller details in ps3 gta will be better.

you don't gotta find it for me, i've already heard the same thing... matter of fact, i'm pretty sure it's in one of the links on the GTA info thread here.... the creator said (if i'm not mistaken) that they're having problems getting it to work/perform the same on the 360, as the ps3 but they're working through it... (pretty sure it was the Q and A thing on the last page.)

[bluntblaze]

yeh i think that was it.
btw there's new info about the game.

[slipknotpsycho]

post it in the thread (if it's there i've read it :thumbsup: i check that thread religiously... i'm a huge GTA fan.... i actually bought a PS2, JUST so i could get SA, playstaion has been my choice since it came out, but at the time, i had to find a way to afford it :p lol)

[bluntblaze]

are both fully backwards compatible<?

[4twentE]

Die hard Atari fan right here. The newest system I would like would be a PS2. I got an X Box and I'm so disappointed.

[bloodmasta]

the wii is a load of rubbish it fucks up if the room your playing in is too bright..... the PS3 was made by sony....therefore its shit...and the Xbox 360...just the best console ever created :D