New Box, finally

[Skateboardingpunk420]

Yep, built from scratch..
Demensions: 4'H x 2'L x 2'1"W

just a quick post, not growing in this yet. I'm getting either 2 or 4 5" axial fans from http://www.discounthydro.com/ventilation.asp#vortex
Mounted at the top (Air Out)
And bottom (Air In)

125w Daylight bulb, along with hydrofarm reflector/fixture for vegging. (Optionial: May get some more fluro's and mount of the walls, but I dont know yet)

400w HPS for flowering
Dont exactly know how well this is going to work, considering I wasent planning on flowering in the box, but I hope to manage (tie down, crop, ect. to keep height at a minimum).

This was all designed for three Waterfarm Bubblers (http://www.insidesun.com/index.php?action=item&id=99&prevaction=category&previd=5&prevstart=0)

Sound good?
Welcome comments..

[lordsoth666]

I bought one of those hydrofarm light/reflector, and I have some seriously dense veg going on, at 4.5 weeks (in soil) they measure 10" and have canopies nearly as wide as they are tall, and internodal growth that I would not have believed possible without MH light. Nice box dude, best of luck with it's maiden voyage. :) BUT be careful when installing of removing the bulb in that thing, grip it as close to the socket as you can, as the plastic ballast is two pieces glued together, if it does come apart, superglue works fine.

[Skateboardingpunk420]

Sounds good.. but I may buy another one.. lol, for a total of 250w
Things are expensive, paid more for that than I did my HPS

[Imotep]

u can use yr fluro in a separaste smaller chamber to veg plants ready to put straight underr the hps for flowering.
fluro always growing, hps always flowering.
harvest every hps cycle not every fluro+hps cycle.

[smoothe]

ok then ive borght 1 of them lights shown above for veg.
ive got 3 plants all at diffrent levels but im not sure how fare they can be away from the plant and still be affective i know it gives no heat off but like i said there all at diffrent levels.
next question is i got sum femiz been growing for a bout 2 mouths and there really skinny i would say there about a foot high ferts every couple of weeks with coco a-b 1s in soil and othere is coco blocks (its like bits of wood) and the soil is normal poting soil. ok back 2 it every time i fert some of the leafs go brown like there getting burn't then go crispy ?
(water every couple of days)
last thing. i got a seed off my friend and planted it and it looks a lot beter than the otheres in colour and thick ness but the hight ent isent there yet and that was a normal seed its just pickled my head you buy better and it ends up beeing worse but i wont give up o no......
ph 7
temp 20 - 25
fan
24/7 light 125w fluro with balast + wing
ferts coco a-b
also got formulex
please help been doing it know for about 6 mouths
i had a plant the first time witch was given to me at about foot and half and i done that 1 no problems its just the first couple of mouths i cart get my head around it every 1 else seems to have some right nice plants ...HELP.....
50-50 OR
PHONE A FRIEND

[Skateboardingpunk420]

Hey dude, alright.
Well, first off it may be your fertilizer, are you using to much?
The way its said around here about 1/4 the strength it says on the package for pot, and then slowly increase. Water when the soil is dry TWO inches down, if its moist, give it a day and then check again.
As for the height, as long as you have a fan blowing below that light, you can have your plants as close as two INCHES away. Im not into the metric, lol
The different levels, I take it you mean, height of the plants. Simply place something underneith them so that all the plants are even at the tops.
(That bulb only outputs about 6800 lumens; you need anywhere from 2500-3000 per square foot, which is the rough estimate, the "lowest" you would want, Im aware of this, but I personally think you can veg a good plant with just this light, Im getting another eventually though)

As for the smaller box, that is something I was considering, I would kind of like to do a SCrOg or whatever grow, can you do this with bubblers?
If so, what would I need, net to spread across the top of the plants?

[Skateboardingpunk420]

Update..
Ok, this is my new idea for ventilation.
First I buy a blower, air cooled hood, ducting, and two five inch axial fans.
I want a 465 cfm Dayton blower. I have to buy the fittings along with ducting. The DUAL hose fittings, they connect to the blower, and I would mount them into the top of the box. One side of the blower is connected to a long tube running, in the corner, to the bottom of my box which has holes up along the side. The air can pass freely through the plants, from all over.
The second side is to be connected to the ducting, which runs through the air cooled hood and out the side of the box.
The axial fans are placed into the side of the box, near the top to draw heat out, as well as old air. (These small, five inch fans pack a 365 cfm)
So the two questions I would like to have answered..
Would the blower push to much air for the plants? They would be flowering before it would be on, and I would have a smaller fan on them while vegging to help build stem.
The second would be, how much would this shit cost on the electric bill and would it all be able to be hooked up without a seperate breaker?
Durring vegitation: TWO compact fluros, AT THE MOST, would be on, 24/7.
The two axial fans would be on, well, I dont know, what should they be on?
and a smaller fan used to circulate the air would be on 24/7.
Flowering: 12/12 - 400w HPS, Dayton blower and axial fans, along with the air circulating fan on 24/7.
Thanks

[smoothe]

nice 1 for your input the light ive got is the best said the man in the shop for what i need but things are just taking to long so i went a step closer and piched a sun bed tube off my friend and put that in with it 100w urb i thick it says. well goodlook on the growing im just going 2 keep on with it and see what happens

[Imotep]

i use coco.
water everyday, full strength, until theres runoff. flush once fortnightly.
if theyre growing fast enough its not too wet or strong.
if under a smaller light or theyre growing slower, I''ll skip a day of feed here and there. drying out can spur them on sometimes.

your cupboard sounds good. id only veg 20/4 at most. plants have a proces they do in the dark cycle. i know heaps of folks go 24hrs. i like to give my girls a sleep so they wake up fiesty. :)

[smoothe]

nice 1 for getting back 2 me most peopel are blanking eny way
ive been using coco for a short time.
so what your telling me is to use it all the time in sted of wonce a week because ive been para about over ferts have not used really but if you.ve got info from start to finish from a to b that would be a great help
ive read that much on diffrent site's its getting confusing so if you can put me the right road that would be a life line
(basics)
125w enviro light veg builb
6ft white fluro 75w
philips heat bulb 80w
(watering)
twice a week plain water
(ferts)
coco a+b
used wonce or twice since ive had it...
i thick i was making the leafs burn got para so i stoped using but it could of been me so...
basicley i need a grow buddy with exsperience to relaite too ...

[Imotep]

yeah man change the light to 20 hrs on 4 hrs off.

water every day, maybe only give feed every 2nd day. ive done it that way before no problems.

did u flush the coco out before using? some of it comes very salty. coconuts grow on the beach and heaps of processors dont flush it. it also helps to soak it overnight in pH adjusted 1/2 strength nutrient to pH buffer the coco before planting.
id give em a really good flush, like 5 litres each or a gallon each whatever yr measurements are. and then feed em.
make sure they drain freely and dont sit in wet trays.
keep yr ventilation going all the time. you can rareley have too much air exchange, just as long as the leaves are dancing and not being blown like a tornado.
the fans + the fluros use fuck all power.
when i ran a 400w hps it cost me in australia $40 for 3 months inc fans.

hopethis helps. all the best.

[smoothe]

thanks yet again imotape im going 2 do what you said and yes i soaked the coco over night first.
ps if i have eny problems with this can help just keep a eye on this thread all ill try 2 contact you nice 1 yet again.... :)