Cannabis and driving

[scooba steve]

As a new driver i was wondering what the laws are about cannabis and driving, my rule is if i can feel i am stoned i wont drive.

But what does the law say because sometimes i stop feeling stoned about 1 and a half hours after a joint. there must be a cut off point with the law, where is the point? how many hours after a spliff are you leagaly allowed to drive?

[40oz]

There is no set amount of time. If you are pulled over and you look really stoned and you can't control yourself, you could get a DUI. I've never heard of anyone getting a DUI for marijuana because first the officer has to prove that you are impared by marijuana at that point in time which is pretty hard, but in theory if you are driving while under the influence of any drug that impairs your driving abilities you can get a DUI.

I personally find driving while stoned to be pleasureable and not really too hard at all. When i first started smoking however it was a little more dificult to judge depth perception so it was a little tricky, but now it is just fun.

Im not telling you to go out and drive stoned, its just my 2 cents on the subject.

[napolitana869]

well its against the law to smoke so I'm going to guess that they havent made laws for it like they have for drinking and driving (I'm assuming you live in the US , sorry if I'm wrong). I would avoid driving while you're high and since you're a new driver you might want to wait a few hours after you feel it wear off just to be safe.

[TallulahGreen]

As a new driver i was wondering what the laws are about cannabis and driving, my rule is if i can feel i am stoned i wont drive.

But what does the law say because sometimes i stop feeling stoned about 1 and a half hours after a joint. there must be a cut off point with the law, where is the point? how many hours after a spliff are you leagaly allowed to drive?

I know that if you are so much as even caught with Marijuana in my state that you automatically lose your license for a month.

However, if you are caught driving stoned...I believe you get charged with a DUII and lose your license for 6 months and have to do a bunch of shit.
Check out your own state laws.

Or be extra careful :).

There is no legal time limit. If you look stoned, and have the so called "symptoms" of being stoned, then you get a DUII. Doesn't matter when you smoked, if it's in your system. I have a friend get a DUII 8 hours after smoking a bowl just because it was in their system and they had symptoms of being high. It pretty much probably depends a lot on the cop and a lot on your attitude.

[Skink]

There is no way to prove DUI on pot because a test will show the substance in your blood for 35 days after you smoke it,,,essentially you could of smoked it 2 weeks ago...

I would trust my driving on pot but not anyone elses...

[higher4hockey]

if you smoke weed you can get a dui anytime day or night it doesnt matter if you're stoned or not. now before you call bullshit on me, let me explain.

it happened to me. i was cruising back from a buds house , rolled through a stop sign , a fiver pulled me over and thought i was stoned because my eyes were red. well i wasnt stoned, but it didnt matter , cause officer dickfuck took me to the hospital for a piss test , which i promptly failed, congratulations, because you smoke weed we the US GOVT think that you're driving under the influence if you have thc in your system, which we all know can stay for a long time.

so yeah , be careful.

[Skink]

I know that if you are so much as even caught with Marijuana in my state that you automatically lose your license for a month.

However, if you are caught driving stoned...I believe you get charged with a DUII and lose your license for 6 months and have to do a bunch of shit.
Check out your own state laws.

Or be extra careful :).

There is no legal time limit. If you look stoned, and have the so called "symptoms" of being stoned, then you get a DUII. Doesn't matter when you smoked, if it's in your system. I have a friend get a DUII 8 hours after smoking a bowl just because it was in their system and they had symptoms of being high. It pretty much probably depends a lot on the cop and a lot on your attitude.
Your friend needed a better lawyer...

[40oz]

if you smoke weed you can get a dui anytime day or night it doesnt matter if you're stoned or not. now before you call bullshit on me, let me explain.

it happened to me. i was cruising back from a buds house , rolled through a stop sign , a fiver pulled me over and thought i was stoned because my eyes were red. well i wasnt stoned, but it didnt matter , cause officer dickfuck took me to the hospital for a piss test , which i promptly failed, congratulations, because you smoke weed we the US GOVT think that you're driving under the influence if you have thc in your system, which we all know can stay for a long time.

so yeah , be careful.

I would have brought that to court and won.

[TallulahGreen]

Your friend needed a better lawyer...


Probably.

Lucky for me, my daddy is a cop hatin' lawyer :)

[higher4hockey]

i did take it to court. i tried to get it thrown out because of illegal search and seizure....i tried to argue the whole that was no way to prove that i was stoned at the time. fuck i even tried that rastafarian defense. doesnt work


how exactly would you have beaten that ?

[40oz]

I would have told my lawyer to tell the judge that my eyes were red because of my contacts and the THC in my system was from a party a few weeks before the incident. Then the prosecution would be stuck trying to prove that I was driving while high. They would have no way to do this. Since I am innocent until proven guilty, i am innocent of all charges becuase how are they really going to prove I was stoned.

I dont know why that didnt work for you. Maybe your lawyer was an idiot or maybe you just didnt say the right things.

[higher4hockey]

it doesnt work like that man. its a loophole, you me them everyone knows that if you have thc in your system it could have been from three weeks ago, they don't care, the law is that if its in your system and the officer who pulls you over thinks you're stoned and you fail the test, y..o..u....a..r..e...guilty.

[scooba steve]

Well at the moment i dont drive if i have had a spliff that day because i dont know the laws and i am a new driver. I live in the uk anyway i noticed quite a lot of replies where from america. i knew it would be vague* (sp) i just wanted to know for my own legal safety.

[40oz]

Did you try to discredit the officer? Just because he is a police officer doesn't mean he can tell if a person is stoned. What did he have to go on? Red eyes? thats bull shit.

[TallulahGreen]

i did take it to court. i tried to get it thrown out because of illegal search and seizure....i tried to argue the whole that was no way to prove that i was stoned at the time. fuck i even tried that rastafarian defense. doesnt work


how exactly would you have beaten that ?

You actually tried the rastafarian defense? Oh geez. Why would you even try that?

Anyway, illegal searches and seizures are rare when it comes to vehicles; anything can be probably cause.

[TallulahGreen]

I would have told my lawyer to tell the judge that my eyes were red because of my contacts and the THC in my system was from a party a few weeks before the incident. Then the prosecution would be stuck trying to prove that I was driving while high. They would have no way to do this. Since I am innocent until proven guilty, i am innocent of all charges becuase how are they really going to prove I was stoned.

I dont know why that didnt work for you. Maybe your lawyer was an idiot or maybe you just didnt say the right things.

You can't get THC in your system from contact high. You can inhale as much 2nd hand smoke as you want from herb and still pass a drug test.

[psychocat]

Driving whilst stoned is stupid and irresponsible.
You are driving a ton of metal while your senses are impaired, what you going to tell yourself if you're involved in a fatal accident?
Most stoners get nicked while driving because of a stupid fuck up like forgetting to switch on thier lights or not indicating for a turn.

[TallulahGreen]

Driving whilst stoned is stupid and irresponsible.
You are driving a ton of metal while your senses are impaired, what you going to tell yourself if you're involved in a fatal accident?
Most stoners get nicked while driving because of a stupid fuck up like forgetting to switch on thier lights or not indicating for a turn.


I am a responible stoner who drives stoned.

:)

[40oz]

You can't get THC in your system from contact high. You can inhale as much 2nd hand smoke as you want from herb and still pass a drug test.

Oh I would have come out and told the judge I smoked at the party 2 weeks ago. theres no law against that.

edit: I too am a very responsible stoned driver. I think its harsh to say people who drive stoned are irresponsible idiots. Its not like you get beligerent when your stoned. If anything you get paranoid and drive slower.

[higher4hockey]

Did you try to discredit the officer? Just because he is a police officer doesn't mean he can tell if a person is stoned. What did he have to go on? Red eyes? thats bull shit.

it is bullshit..but thats the way it is.

tallulah...yeah i was 18...i wanted out of that shit in the worst way, i was going to try anything...i hadnt resigned to the idea that you can't beat the govt yet. i told my lawyer my theory on that, he looked at me like i was on crack....that doesn't work either.

[scooba steve]

yeah i think the fact you are in a killing machine a good reasn to not be stoned at all!

[40oz]

it is bullshit..but thats the way it is.

tallulah...yeah i was 18...i wanted out of that shit in the worst way, i was going to try anything...i hadnt resigned to the idea that you can't beat the govt yet. i told my lawyer my theory on that, he looked at me like i was on crack....that doesn't work either.

What god fearing state were you in when this happened. I think its ridiculous.

[thcbongman]

i did take it to court. i tried to get it thrown out because of illegal search and seizure....i tried to argue the whole that was no way to prove that i was stoned at the time. fuck i even tried that rastafarian defense. doesnt work


how exactly would you have beaten that ?

Why the hell would any right-minded lawyer use the rasta defense to beat a DWI of marijuana?

[station]

Driving whilst stoned is stupid and irresponsible.
You are driving a ton of metal while your senses are impaired, what you going to tell yourself if you're involved in a fatal accident?
Most stoners get nicked while driving because of a stupid fuck up like forgetting to switch on thier lights or not indicating for a turn.

ull love me then
i rip bongs and steer wit my knees :D

[TallulahGreen]

ull love me then
i rip bongs and steer wit my knees :D


Gotta love the stearing with your knees trick.;)

[Its a Plant]

fuck i even tried that rastafarian defense. doesnt work
Is that similar to the Chewbacca defense?

"And that...does not make sense."

[TallulahGreen]

Is that similar to the Chewbaca defense?

"And that...does not make sense."

You're fucking hilarious.

[station]

Gotta love the stearing with your knees trick.;)

works wonders. iv mastered some mad corners. i was impressed lol

[higher4hockey]

piss on all of you ! it was worth a try. :p



i was in PA when this went down by the way.

[benagain]

My rule of thumb is to not give a reason to pull over and get searched. That and try not to smoke in the car too much. I've been pulled over dozens of times with weed in the car somewhere, but if you don't look and act stoned and the car doesn't reek, the cop won't want to look. At least they don't bother me.
Of course, I'm a clean cut white guy in his mid 20s. You minority people may get the hard end of the racial profiling stick, I just don't know. If you're some young black kid that just got stuck with a beat up car, then the media says you may get beat down by the fuzz just for just driving around. If that was the case, I would just never smoke in the car. Sorry I wish it was better :o

[duffer]

Sorry I wish it was better :o

No need to say sorry for simply stating the truth. Racial profiling does happen, and minorities do have to be more careful with a lot of shit they do.

[Thepossumdance]

works wonders. iv mastered some mad corners. i was impressed lol

You win my favorite person of the year award already and its only Jan.

[aeonblue11]

Well, eventually i'm guessing states in America will introduce roadside drug testing to test for amphetamines and cannabis. It's done by swiping a sample of saliva from the inside of the mouth and takes about 4-5min to produce a reading.
They estimate it reads cannabis roughly 3 hours after it has been smoked, and ecstasy around 24 hours after initial intake.

In Victoria, Australia they did have only 1 drug bus in the state. NOW, every single alcohol bus has drug testing capabilities so that means at least 8 of these around...i have already seen a drug bus in my area:mad:

It won't be long until this technology is being used in other countries i.e. America!

well at least then they won't bust you for smoking a few weeks ago.

[napolitana869]

whats an alcohol bus?

[five0addict]

i pretty much always ride my 50 stoned, my reaction time and coordnation isnt affected anymore. for most people id say its a bad idea! lol

[LIP]

I drive stoned, and im fine. I've never even come near to crashing into anything. Just because im stoned doesnt mean i forget to look in my mirrors, and it doesnt mean i forget to indicate. It doesnt slow my breaking times, and it doesnt make me misjudge anything.

But, if the police relied on a drug test to find out if you were driving whilst stoned, it wouldnt be fair, as you can test positive weeks after not smoking. So it's all bullshit, and the best thing to do is not get caught. OR, stop the car, and when the cop gets out of his reverse over him.

I wouldnt take that advice seriously though ;)

[LazySmoking420]

I drive stoned, and im fine. I've never even come near to crashing into anything. Just because im stoned doesnt mean i forget to look in my mirrors, and it doesnt mean i forget to indicate. It doesnt slow my breaking times, and it doesnt make me misjudge anything.

But, if the police relied on a drug test to find out if you were driving whilst stoned, it wouldnt be fair, as you can test positive weeks after not smoking. So it's all bullshit, and the best thing to do is not get caught. OR, stop the car, and when the cop gets out of his reverse over him.

I wouldnt take that advice seriously though ;)

The point isn't really to prove you're driving stoned, But rather to prove you're a drug user and that you forgo it's controlled substance law and partook.

[LIP]

The point isn't really to prove you're driving stoned, But rather to prove you're a drug user and that you forgo it's controlled substance law and partook.

They wouldnt have to bother testing me. I'd tell them straight up that i've smoked weed, and i'll carry on smoking weed. If they want to arrest me thats fine. In my eyes im doing nothing wrong, im right, they're wrong. Im too proud to try and hide my enjoyable use of an amazing plant.

[Weeden]

What the law really comes down to is that it is illegal to buy, sell or have marijiuana, but it is NOT illegal to be under its influences.
The law does change a bit for driving, though. I'm thinking that you just got yourself a shitty lawyer... :(

[Dutch Pimp]

...the last time ..I drove stoned..and had a little accident....

..I had to get out..and ask the witnesses ..what happen..?......:)...

[psychocat]

Driving while under the influence of any drug that alters perception is moronic . Simple as that.

[higher4hockey]

What the law really comes down to is that it is illegal to buy, sell or have marijiuana, but it is NOT illegal to be under its influences.
The law does change a bit for driving, though. I'm thinking that you just got yourself a shitty lawyer... :(


you guys are missing the point.....there is nothing you can do, if you pop positive, you are driving under the influence, its as simple as that.
granted we all know this is bullshit, but believe me, there is nothing you can do.

[40oz]

driving stoned is nothing compared to driving drunk or under the influence of psychedelics. If a person is a shitty driver to begin with they will probably be a shitty driver while high on weed but other than that driving is the same. You dont have to worry about swerving all over the road not paying attention to anything like when your drunk and you don't have to worry about your car doors disappearing and your car flying like when you're on psychedelics.

Marijuana isn't what i would consider a risky drug for driving. The worst case senario i think would be getting distracted by other people in the car while your stoned. If you're a good driver it shouldnt happen

[partyguy420]

Oh I would have come out and told the judge I smoked at the party 2 weeks ago. theres no law against that.

edit: I too am a very responsible stoned driver. I think its harsh to say people who drive stoned are irresponsible idiots. Its not like you get beligerent when your stoned. If anything you get paranoid and drive slower.

so you told the judge your a stoner... really fucking smart... its aginst the law to smoke pot in the fisrt place....

[40oz]

Its not against the law to smoke pot. it's against the law to posess or sell pot.

Trust me, the judge wouldn't care. All the judge would care about is if i was high while i was driving.

[partyguy420]

and sorry for saying this... i think it should be made a law that all shity drivers have to carry a glass dick, with methimphitmine reson in it, but still make glass dicks to carry own or posess... cause ive noticed that if your carrying around something that can give you a felony conviction.... you drive alot better... anyways... if they use saliva testing... it would be alot more accurate to the last time you smoked, because it shows up for like 3 days only... and also for any one who has seen the result papers of a drug-test from a actualy labatory(not one of those test that you put the stick into and it turns blue for crack, and green for weed, and purple for meth or what ever, that you buy from the pharmacy) it shows actual numbers on of how many nano-grams or milli-grams for so much blood... showing that when you took the test... you can get a close estiment of the last time you smoked, or how much you smoke...

[LIP]

I'd love to tell a judge i'm a weed smoker, and all the cops i can find. Im proud, so im moe than happy to tell anyone. AND, the best part is, i could walk into a court with weed on me, tell them, get searched, and they wouldnt arrest me, and even if they did i definatly would not get jail time, because at the mo there's another great big fuck up by our English Government bastards and all our prisons are full, so they're only sentencing really dangerous criminals to custodial stenences. So i'd walk out of their scott free. I remember when they semi legalised cannabis in south London... cops didnt care about it, those were the days. I wonder if its still like that.

[Sm0ker Steve]

I know people that get stoned out there faces and drive its not to bad ive done it on like peds and stuff u seem to concenrate more so u shud b good aslong as u not half asleep lol

[Sm0ker Steve]

some1 delte this post it was an accident

[suhl]

i drive high all the time. really not too hard. i have had more fuckups driving sober, but that is just a coincidence, im not saying i drive better high. nor am i saying it is better sober. the only thing is sometime when i am high i will every once and awhile treat traffic lights like stop signs, whether they are red or green. like now and then i will stop at a red light wanting to turn left, then look both way and see it is safe to go then go then midway throughj the intersection think fuck that was a red light. or like if my light is green but someone is coming fast up to their red at the intersection ill stop, forgetting the light is there, then go after i realize they have stopped or turned. id just suggest not doing it in a really busy area it just kills the high because you have to concentrate so much on driving

just dont drive drunk or on anything that might make you hallucinate both are mistakes

[yoda]

Cruising on Cannabis - NORML (http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5449)

facts on driving while high

remember, dont break more than one rule at once. if you got green, dont speed, or run lights/stop signs.

[suhl]

yeah i normally just try not to do it in the city because it just gets me kind of paranoid ill get caught

[2600HERTZ]

I drive high, no damage done, but if we knew how many close calls we had we would probably scare ourselves to death.

[hatemeasalways]

well i wouldnt drive drunk so i dont drive stoned,not that i havent but try to avoid it as much as possible,i doknow alot that do drive stoned and have no probs but other i wouldnt let take my bicycle for a ride and then again i know people that drive better drunk than sober.

[Pipe Dreams]

Meh, Ive driven down the interstate at 80 mph, steering with my knees and hitting the bong :)

To me, driving stoned is totally diffrent than say, driving drunk. I drive totally stoned, infact, I do most of my daily errands pretty damn baked.

[TallulahGreen]

Meh, Ive driven down the interstate at 80 mph, steering with my knees and hitting the bong :)

To me, driving stoned is totally diffrent than say, driving drunk. I drive totally stoned, infact, I do most of my daily errands pretty damn baked.

I do everything stoned. I don't even think about it. I start getting stoned the second I go to bed and smoke every chance I get until I go to bed.

So yeah, agreed..or something...whatever...ahh.

[Its a Plant]

I start getting stoned the second I go to bed and smoke every chance I get until I go to bed.
Haha....ummm...what?

You must be torched :p

Now go to bed and get stoned. :jointsmile:

[TallulahGreen]

Haha....ummm...what?

You must be torched :p

Now go to bed and get stoned. :jointsmile:

ODDLY enough...I smoked my last bowl that I had about 4 hours ago. So unfortunatly I am um sober as a door nail(??) until tonight.

Which may be the problem here.......

[Its a Plant]

Uh oh..

Actually, you saying that makes a lot of sense.

Hang in there.