co2 machines

[pepe le pew]

is there a co2 making machine that can be use in a growroom
if there is were would you be able to get it from

[stinkyattic]

Yes you can get a CO2 generator in several different sizes that runs on LP.
Or you can just get a 20 pound tank and hook it up to a regulator set to seep when the lights are on by a solenoid valve on a timer.
national garden wholesale has a good selection but I think then you have to have your local grow shop order it.

[pepe le pew]

thanx for the reply but i was wondering is there a machine that produces
co2 insted of using a gas bottle and regulater

[stinkyattic]

You have to get the carbon from somewhere... it's a matter of physics... matter cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed.
So potential sources for Carbon are:
Fossil fuels... hydrocarbon chains... must be oxidized into their component bits by the process of combustion in the presence of oxygen (to get CO2... that's where the O2 comes from)
Sugars... also carbon molecules, and you can break them apart using the fermentaion process by which YEASTS convert the sugars into CO2, among other things.... that's how the bubbles get into champagne.
Combustion of wood, etc... very inefficient and impractical, but you get CO2 as a byproduct of that too.

So anyway in my first reply I mentioned a CO2 generator that runs on LP, liquid propane, like for a BBQ grill... propane + atmospheric oxygen >>>oxidation/combustion>>> CO2 + water.

[pepe le pew]

thanx agin for the reply
i've just lookrd at the generator on google thats what i want but there
exspencive. so are they value for money or should i keep to the normal
way of growing

[stinkyattic]

Well I guess that's the big question!
This is how I feel about CO2 supplementing:
Your first job is to give your plants a good MEDIA.
-Soil of proper pH and drainage
-Space to root
Then give them good FOOD
-Quality ferts
-Right pH
-Right proportions of elements
-Appropriate feeding schedule

Then to increase YIELD,
-LIGHTS!!! This is where you will make the biggest difference overall.
-Bloom supplements... your plants DO need carbon. However the average grower can give MOLASSES during bloom to increase bud mass without buying an expensive CO2 system... this is good to know if you don't have much space to work in.

You should only really start thinking about CO2 AFTER all your other conditions are OPTIMIZED. Because if they aren't, you're just wasting it because the plants won't be growing vigorously enough to really benefit from a 'richer' atmosphere. Kind of like putting super premium gas plus octane booster in a car with a clogged air filter. Get my drift?

[pepe le pew]

thanx for all the info i really appreciate it. that was good reading and i'am going to implement all your advice and hopefully get some good results :)

[stinkyattic]

cool see you in cultivation!

[slipknotpsycho]

can't you just use yeast and a couple of other things to produce Co2 cheap? i coulda swore i heard some grower or guide say you can use yeast to do it with

[stinkyattic]

Sugars... also carbon molecules, and you can break them apart using the fermentaion process by which YEASTS convert the sugars into CO2, among other things.... that's how the bubbles get into champagne.

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Why yes!!! Yes you can!!!

=p

[slipknotpsycho]

:p meh i thought i saw the word sugar earlier, when i was about to post that.. but i couldn't find it so yeah ..