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TonyD
01-19-2007, 05:20 PM
Hello,

First time grower, just planted 17 germinated seeds in the pots two days now.

Running under a 1000 watt MH bulb, a few questions.

How high should the light be from the plants ideally, as there is a huge amount of heat being created but i have an 18inch Honeywell "Super Power" Commercial grade fan running 24/7 hoping to compensate a bit.

When should i expect to see them come through the soil, extremely worried the light might actually be killing them.

Switching to 2, 1000 watt HPS lamps for flowering.

Thinking about starting a grow log..

invision
01-19-2007, 06:30 PM
do you have some sort of fan pulling out all the stale air from the area?

normally i keep seedling about 2 feet from the light for the first couple days then move the light closer daily until i see them wilt a bit then raise it about 3" from there.

the fan you use may be to powerful for the seedling so dont put it right in thier direction, i know the fan your using i have about 3 of them in my shop and they throw HUGE amounts of air even on low.

seedling can take up to 7-10 days before they show through the surface, all my seeds popped one time except one and it took 4 day for it to show up.

what size area are you working with?

TonyD
01-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Unfortunately because its a cupboard room its not very big, and i can't put in venting.

The size is about 8ft in length 4.5ft in width and about 2.5 metres high.

Slightly raised platform kind of area inside the room not included in the length its about 2ft wide and about 4ft up from the floor.)

Bit of a crush i realise.

Im growing: Arjan's Ultra Haze No:1 ( Toked it at the 2006 cup)
Kali Mist ( Toked it in Amsterdam)
G13xHashplant ( G13 amazing strain.)

Also Im not entirely sure how much i should be watering them at this point?

Thanks.

TonyD
01-22-2007, 08:10 PM
Still no sign of the seedlings showing through the soil, been in there 5 days now.

Causing me serious worry, there about 2.5 feet from the 1000. This Ok?

Cheers for any replies.

invision
01-22-2007, 08:14 PM
turn the light off its just wasting your money, when you see a sprout come up then turn it on, i usually water with about 4oz of water every few days, what you want is moist but not wet soil.

you can do it just motivate yourself

TonyD
01-22-2007, 08:27 PM
Any idea what i should do for lighting in the meantime, or should i leave it with just the room light (normal bulb) on for a few days see if that works to get them out the pot.

Once again thanks for replies.

blank_21
02-13-2007, 01:05 PM
Have they sprouted?????

GaGrown
02-13-2007, 02:58 PM
Any idea what i should do for lighting in the meantime, or should i leave it with just the room light (normal bulb) on for a few days see if that works to get them out the pot.

Once again thanks for replies. Use a 2 bulb shop light or some cfl's. They are cool and you will get better sprouts than with than inferno your blasting at them.That 1000 watter can do some serious damage to those newborns.Like as soon as they wake,their baked!I could get some ventilation in that room.Your gonna play hell keeping that space cool. Save ya $$$$ and get a smaller light to get them started with.

Ga Grown!

Tomthehippie
02-13-2007, 03:06 PM
Man its going to get hot in there if you haven’t got any vent fans or some kind of ventilation?! especially if you use 2 1000w for flower.

TonyD
02-15-2007, 02:31 AM
All the original ones i planted got wrecked unfortunately.

But, fortunately i planted another 13 and have got all of them growing.
They've been in for coming up on 3 weeks now these new ones.

Most are on their 6th or 7th set of leaves is this about right?
They don't seem to really have grown in height much from week 1 though just leaves.

The temp usually stays at about 29-30 C very high i know but it i can't find any sign of heat stress on any of the plants apart from a yellowing on the original set of leaves one 2-3 of the plants.

Im able to keep the grow room door open during the day anyway and the fan is in a perfect position to keep the plants cool (It's kind of bouncing off a wall just below the plants and rising up seems to be quite effective after trying out a few different positions)

I tried different watering schedules, less and more. They definitely seem to like more usually a watering once a day and a few light mists during the day to keep the leaves cool.

Temperature's tend to crash for 90 minutes or so after i mist to about 25 degree's C or less.

Any replies well appreciated, Cheers.

TonyD
02-15-2007, 02:33 AM
Also, For flowering i'll definitely be getting in the jet stream cooling systems that go with the lights im using apparently that should get rid of all my temperature problems completely.

Chronic Chrissy
02-15-2007, 04:07 AM
Glad to hear you have some babies going. Any idea what happened to the first batch?

invision
02-15-2007, 04:13 AM
all you need is a extraction fan, for 100.00 you could get a nice 600CFM cage fan that will cool that room in a few minutes.

TonyD
02-15-2007, 01:56 PM
First batch never got out the soil, i kept the 2nd batch in a dark cupboard until they sprouted a fair bit not had problems since.

blank_21
02-15-2007, 02:03 PM
I wouldnt water every day, let the soil dry out a bit before watering :jointsmile:

Chronic Chrissy
02-15-2007, 02:51 PM
In 2 inch pots under a 400MH my plants can go bone dry in a day.

TonyD
02-15-2007, 09:35 PM
Literally Bone Dry in a few hours, really necessary to water every day.

blank_21
02-22-2007, 10:15 PM
Really wow

i have a 400w MH and my plants are in 5 inch pots, soiless mix (1/3 vermiculite,1/3 Perlite,1/3 coco) and i only have to water them every 2-3 days

Hey TonyD

You have to start a grow log man, with those strains and that 1K MH man i wana see what you got growing!!!!!
Please please start a LOG!!!
Peace :rastasmoke:

Villui
08-29-2007, 07:54 AM
dont use the mh on seedlings you will fucking fry them buy some cfls for the first 2-3 weeks after sprouting

Villui
08-29-2007, 07:56 AM
if what ur sayign iis 2.5 meters high , then idkhowin the hell ur gona grow it cause im growing ultra ahze right now and i even put them in flowerin a little early and theyre 4 ft
(3 weeks in atm) out of 13





Unfortunately because its a cupboard room its not very big, and i can't put in venting.

The size is about 8ft in length 4.5ft in width and about 2.5 metres high.

Slightly raised platform kind of area inside the room not included in the length its about 2ft wide and about 4ft up from the floor.)

Bit of a crush i realise.

Im growing: Arjan's Ultra Haze No:1 ( Toked it at the 2006 cup)
Kali Mist ( Toked it in Amsterdam)
G13xHashplant ( G13 amazing strain.)

Also Im not entirely sure how much i should be watering them at this point?

Thanks.