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geonagual
01-18-2007, 11:53 PM
I read and I read and I see one thing in common with people from other parts of the world. They dislike the U.S.
They call us fat
They call us lazy
They call us loud
all may be true, except me

I know our government sucks, but what can I do, besides vote and protest.
I didn't choose to be born here, for some reason it just happened.

So, all I gotta say is

One love brothers and sisters

mfitzp
01-18-2007, 11:54 PM
smartest american i came across lmfao :p

the yeag
01-18-2007, 11:55 PM
team america.......fuck yeah!!!!!!

the yeag
01-18-2007, 11:58 PM
I'm pretty lazy.
Shit, I'm an American.


True...cause we can be:jointsmile:

why does a dog lick his nutz?...cause he can.

420izzle
01-18-2007, 11:58 PM
We pretty much suck as a whole! Put yourself on the other side...yep...we suck the life out of the world.

Psycho4Bud
01-19-2007, 12:01 AM
team america.......fuck yeah!!!!!!

Hell ya! Got it in my signature.

When other countries have something better to offer they can be removed from my list of those that can kiss my red, white, and blue ass.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

friendowl
01-19-2007, 12:04 AM
i speak the universal language "weed"

Skink
01-19-2007, 12:05 AM
USA

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 10:32 AM
Something better like?
yes Amerikkka sucks ass but so does UK, all we can do is wait it out. One day this side of the world will get flooded and im gonna be in my ark. hahahah. If usa and uk and everywhere, was not the way they are today. what wouldthey be like. Some say were doinggood but nahhh.
Peace

ValkyrieAg
01-19-2007, 10:35 AM
I believe that the problem stems from outward appearances.

People believe americans this americans that....well most of the 'hate' stems from the government in one way or another.

Americans as individuals are cool folk.

We are fighting this Iraq war and you hear about *everything*. We have lost ~3100 servicemembers since the war started along with about another 3k during 9/11.

Thats under 7500 killed. Does anyone realize that we have 300 million people here? With a foreign view, it looks like Americans are fighting for their survival. You have to realize that we are 'ruled' by a govt where they make the decisions. No american particularly likes politics or politicians....which is evident in our voting %. And truthfully, with the exception of the servicemembers, we don't realy feel the pinch of war.

Now if Al Qaeda was running through the streets of Dallas/LA/NY as well as small town America, you best watch your ass. If the USA falls, it will be because of a big ass nuke cause these keystone terrorists flying planes into buildings don't really make a shit in the big picture.

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 10:43 AM
yes we are controled by the govt. Its sad to think about how many people the Forces have lost.. sons daughters mums dads.. yet who are they fighting for.. ther fighting for people that are controling the population with scare tactics with poverty with alsorts of really untrue and just crazy shit.. how do they get away with it.. well thers no one to tell them their wrong... i believe if God came down and said to bush or blair hey man wtf have you done to my world, thed be like were looking to expand our buisness. thats all.. changes subject

Peace
TBB

wayoftheleaf
01-19-2007, 11:22 AM
Nearly all of what the other countries see about us is what they see on their news stations. And let's face it. News never has good things on it. If they do, you look at the TV like they are fucking retarded.

All they see is LOUD, OBNOXIOUS, STUBORN, ASSHOLES.

Well honestly, most americans do fit to that steriotype.

America is a better country than most. But it isn't the best.

I have been trying to come of with something. I call it a reformed anarchy. But if anyone has the true name of this please tell me.

An anarchy, the only difference though, the lack of government and guidance only pertains to what you do to yourself, and your family. familiy matters are handled by the family. Family matters include EVERYTHING that one family member does to another.

But if you kill a person, then the town you live in becomes a giant jury against you and your punishment is figured out.

You can drink and drive and do all that stuff, but the punishment for taking a life while under the influence of anything(marijuana might be included or not) the punishment is Much MUch MUCh MUCH higher than if you just kill a person.

But you can put whatever the fuck you want in your body.

Now, no country in this day and age can live without a military. So I propose this. Another country does this, idthink it is sweden but I could be off.

Every male is required(and females can if they choose to) to go into a training program when they reach a certain age. After the training program they are presented with their gun, and amnuition. Every so often they have to go back and repeat the program. If the country becomes under attack, we would have a plan developed to gather all male troops that are willing(how many wouldn't be to protect freedoms like that?)to fight and go to war.

Just sounds like a better country than any I could think of.

I know that I am an arrogant jackass, but honestly, anyone who considers theirself better than another because of their country, and beyond that steriotyping all of us, is a bigger arrogant jackass than I can describe.

I have met many people in america that are incredibly nice, sweet people. Mostly girls, because most guys are jackasses in my oppinion.

Well </rant>

ValkyrieAg
01-19-2007, 11:32 AM
They (politicians) get away with it because of our quality of living. I drink beer, get fucked up, shoot my SKS, smoke some pot, drive thru the beer barn, hunt, go to college, chase women, go Anywhere and do Anything. The last thing on my mind is govt and the war.

Now, like I said if Al Qaeda was running around in the streets praising allah, my priorities would change and this 'war' would spill into Anywhere, USA. It would no longer be Al Qaeda vs US Govt, it would be Al Qaeda vs the American people.

Heres some bacon for thought:
If these radical muslims weren't so fuckin crazy blowin shit up, we COULD live in peace and our servicemembers wouldn't have to be in Iraq. I think it is ignorant to fully blame our government for this war. Personally I blame those goofy ass muslims before I blame Bush and Blair.

ValkyrieAg
01-19-2007, 11:40 AM
No govt? Are you smoking crack? If you want to live in a hippy's bliss, there are countries you can do that in.

But when a big black guy named Moziquah rams a bayonet through your body, I bet you will be ready to come back to America, where there is law and order and a system of doing things.

"if the country becomes under attack, we would have a plan developed to gather all male troops that are willing"
-this is called a militia. A single platoon of Marines could wipe the floor with Jim Bob and Joey from Philly. And the whole willing thing? What is with that? I bet you would dodge a draft.

orangeman
01-19-2007, 11:43 AM
They call us fat - I'm actually skinny
They call us lazy - Only some times lol
They call us loud - I usually don't say anything in real life unless it's worth saying (or unless I'm too high to realize I'm babbling about nothing).

I honestly don't think people from U.K. and stuff would dislike me. I just want to make friends all around the world and smoke a few blunts with everyone and enjoy life :).

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 12:16 PM
well as you already no all them crazy people are walking about willy nilly. blowing shit up. killing people.their proply a few planning attacks in you home town, so what u on about. the govt forces their way in to find weapons or watever. all they "FOUND" lol was oil and alot of money..they are scum. i say let them fight for them selves.. we had too. everyone has to. the government is nout but a bunch of fucking rich bastards that do fuck all but keep the people down where they want them..with no ability to overthrow a govt. what can the people do. nothin but live and die.. while the rich get richer. now war is useless causes nothing but grief and not to mention pain. and yes what i see on news is alot different to whats really going on in the world..
you cool orange man. i wish i grew up in amerika. to me it doesnt matter where your from its all about what you know.
Peace
TBB

ValkyrieAg
01-19-2007, 12:25 PM
So you are saying that they might be planning a terrorist attack, but you don't see the point of war?

What would you do then, as a civilian? End the war and eventually get attacked on your own soil? In your own home?

benagain
01-19-2007, 01:12 PM
Im american (obviously) and I quite like it here. Some hippies don't like George W (neither do I) and all of a sudden we're a horrible country. I could get all fired up and personal about how people feel about us, but what's the point. Live how you want, just treat everyone else as nice as possible and we should still get along.

A few Notes on americans: Most of us are proud of our country and ready to fight you over it. Not another one out there in the world like it. Most of us don't eat Mcdonalds every day (only teenagers or fatass adults). Most of us do have a car and drive it everyday (we're not gas hogs, we just have a lot of miles to cover in one day). A lot of us have guns, but we're not rednecks or gangstas. Most everyone here would give the shirt off of our backs to someone who needs it. We don't like George W either (he's out soon to be replaced with someone even worse I'm sure). Not all but all for now, I'm still trying to wakeup.

daima
01-19-2007, 01:29 PM
i was born in america
and i'm proud of that fact
i wish the rest of the world
would get off our back
but these slick politicians man
you've got to admit
seem as crazy as bedbugs and
they dont give one wit
about a family on the street with
their backs to the wall that
cant find a quarter for to
make a phone call
meanwhile back in washington
champagne will flow
tell that to a a homeless man
with no where to go:mad:

dai*ma:stoned: sfca 94110

2600HERTZ
01-19-2007, 01:54 PM
The thread says it all.

rottenPauL
01-19-2007, 02:05 PM
i really find myself living in such a dirty system full of corruption, lies, wrong information, interests.... globalization.. and thats not just americas fault. We are all in it. Look in what a looney world we are living. Not much have changed since the dark ages. I can see a whole bunch of tasteless crusades aiming towards pure interests but the only think they cause is enormous human casualties. Fuck that. What about poverty? What about AIDS? What about education? What about all those things that dont kill us but make us stronger? Its true "they" control us. But they need us. Without us they cant do shit. So why do what those fuckers what us to do? Its not america. Its not england. Its the whole fucking world.

daima
01-19-2007, 02:58 PM
No govt? Are you smoking crack? If you want to live in a hippy's bliss, there are countries you can do that in.

But when a big black guy named Moziquah rams a bayonet through your body, I bet you will be ready to come back to America, where there is law and order and a system of doing things.

"if the country becomes under attack, we would have a plan developed to gather all male troops that are willing"
-this is called a militia. A single platoon of Marines could wipe the floor with Jim Bob and Joey from Philly. And the whole willing thing? What is with that? I bet you would dodge a draft.

me thinks you left out a detail or two about yourself, which is only my most humble of opinions.

#1. you're a pathetic racist
#2. you;re full of ummmmmm misinformation. aka shit.

dai*ma:stoned:

ticoblunts
01-19-2007, 03:05 PM
All they see is LOUD, OBNOXIOUS, STUBORN, ASSHOLES.

Well honestly, most americans do fit to that steriotype. TRUE

America is a better country than most. But it isn't the best. VERY TRUE

But you can put whatever the fuck you want in your body
I live in Costa Rica and I can put WHATEVER I WANT in my body!!

Now, no country in this day and age can live without a military. So I propose this. Another country does this, idthink it is sweden but I could be off.
Costa Rica Has no army and everyone here lives cool and calm...PURA VIDA

Every male is required(and females can if they choose to) to go into a training program when they reach a certain age. After the training program they are presented with their gun, and amnuition. Every so often they have to go back and repeat the program. If the country becomes under attack, we would have a plan developed to gather all male troops that are willing(how many wouldn't be to protect freedoms like that?)to fight and go to war.

Just sounds like a better country than any I could think of.
The only way the country comes under attack is by going and pissing some other country off by being a BULLY like USA is with their army!!

I have met many people in america that are incredibly nice, sweet people. Mostly girls, because most guys are jackasses in my oppinion. In America or in USA(united states OF AMERICA) beacause we all must keep in mind that ameica is also made up of Canada and mexico down...USA is only part of North America!!

Well </rant>


USA people ask me where I live I say Costa Rica and they think its Puerto Rico and that I live on some fucking island that is part of USA!!! I think the american people need to stop being so egocentrical and study more geography!! I was born and raised in California so you can call me a Gringo or USA boy...I now live in Costa Rica and will soon be renouncing my USA residency...I have seen first hand what people think of the USA and why...Whoever wants to keep the USA they can have it!! Ill stay with my third world country Costa Rica...I can smoke and do whatever the fuck I want here!! I dont have to worry about some pissed of muslim with a vengeance blowing up one of our bulidings!! You guys can keep that shit and that asshole G.W. Bush!!:rasta:

daima
01-19-2007, 03:25 PM
USA people ask me where I live I say Costa Rica and they think its Puerto Rico and that I live on some fucking island that is part of USA!!! I think the american people need to stop being so egocentrical and study more geography!! I was born and raised in California so you can call me a Gringo or USA boy...I now live in Costa Rica and will soon be renouncing my USA residency...I have seen first hand what people think of the USA and why...Whoever wants to keep the USA they can have it!! Ill stay with my third world country Costa Rica...I can smoke and do whatever the fuck I want here!! I dont have to worry about some pissed of muslim with a vengeance blowing up one of our bulidings!! You guys can keep that shit and that asshole G.W. Bush!!:rasta:

Costa Rica is a beautiful country.
Keep it beautiful.
Remember this......
Many many good decent people are Americans and we feel the same way you do.
The only difference is that many of us who could move away choose not to so we can change that which we find wrong. In the words of Martin Luther King.." an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" unquote.
My belief is that when one encounters oppostion is that we dont run until we find a place that isnt such a challenge to our beliefs. My belief and the beliefs of many good Americans is that we change what we dont like by facing it down.
I wish you nothing but happiness, and i hope that you have found it in Costa Rica. I spent some time in San Jose C.R., and loved it.
Do they still use the peso?

adios and buenos dias,
dai*ma:stoned: sf ca 94110

Bong30
01-19-2007, 03:39 PM
i dont have the energy to get in on this... I think i have made my opinions very clear....

God Bless America..............

the yeag
01-19-2007, 03:54 PM
Hell ya! Got it in my signature.

When other countries have something better to offer they can be removed from my list of those that can kiss my red, white, and blue ass.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

you are a fine american my friend

bucknuts1870
01-19-2007, 04:43 PM
First of all our form of government doesn't suck. It has been pretty damn successfull for the last couple hundred years and laid down a good framework for people to become successfull themselves. The people currently in power may be incapable of performing their duties, they may be ignorant to the issues most Americans are interested in, and they may have totaly fucked up Iraq, but that remains to be seen. Ten years form now we can take an objective look at things and how they turned out in the end. Who knows, 50 years from now W could be one of our greatest Presidents. It all depends on if he can fix things in Iraq and get back to fighitng the true enemy which is the ideaology of Wahabism and other militant Islamic groups like Hezbolah. FDR sent thousands of Jap's to "Internment Camps" and he is recognised as one of our greatest presidents ever. I personally don't like Bush I think it was a mistake to invade Iraq, but what do I know. For all I know they had weapons of mass destruction and were willing and able to sell them to militant islamic groups and they managed to get get them out of the country into Syria before the U.S. invaded. Time will tell.

People dislike America becuase we are brash, self-confident, take no bullshit, winners. People always love to hate who's on top. Jealous of America's wealth, power, and influence on the rest of the world. Many American's are lazy, fat, and stupid, but so are a lot of French people.

I myself would like to live in the south of Italy, Calabria, or somewhere in the Carribean(sp?) like Costa Rica(just kidding). I am a fisherman and I love warm weather and indigo blue water.

ticoblunts
01-19-2007, 04:45 PM
Costa Rica is a beautiful country.
Keep it beautiful.
Remember this......
Many many good decent people are Americans and we feel the same way you do.
The only difference is that many of us who could move away choose not to so we can change that which we find wrong. In the words of Martin Luther King.." an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" unquote.
My belief is that when one encounters oppostion is that we dont run until we find a place that isnt such a challenge to our beliefs. My belief and the beliefs of many good Americans is that we change what we dont like by facing it down.
I wish you nothing but happiness, and i hope that you have found it in Costa Rica. I spent some time in San Jose C.R., and loved it.
Do they still use the peso?

adios and buenos dias,
dai*ma:stoned: sf ca 94110

Well I was kinda forced to leave the US due to problems out of my hands...Costa Rica is great you should come down and visit us again...We use "colones"!! Have a good day mae!!

jbuckets
01-19-2007, 04:48 PM
im a greedy, materialistic mother fucker
i want easy, fast money
fuck yeah im american

honestly the majority of people out there who hate us because they anvy our lifestyles and wish they had our money

obviously that doesnt apply to all europeans but many other countries

2600HERTZ
01-19-2007, 04:48 PM
Some other countries have plenty more and better things to offer.

I won;t back that statement up with facts though. Instead Im going to sleep.

ticoblunts
01-19-2007, 04:49 PM
First of all our form of government doesn't suck. It has been pretty damn successfull for the last couple hundred years and laid down a good framework for people to become successfull themselves. The people currently in power may be incapable of performing their duties, they may be ignorant to the issues most Americans are interested in, and they may have totaly fucked up Iraq, but that remains to be seen. Ten years form now we can take an objective look at things and how they turned out in the end. Who knows, 50 years from now W could be one of our greatest Presidents. It all depends on if he can fix things in Iraq and get back to fighitng the true enemy which is the ideaology of Wahabism and other militant Islamic groups like Hezbolah. FDR sent thousands of Jap's to "Internment Camps" and he is recognised as one of our greatest presidents ever. I personally don't like Bush I think it was a mistake to invade Iraq, but what do I know. For all I know they had weapons of mass destruction and were willing and able to sell them to militant islamic groups and they managed to get get them out of the country into Syria before the U.S. invaded. Time will tell.

People dislike America becuase we are brash, self-confident, take no bullshit, winners. People always love to hate who's on top. Jealous of America's wealth, power, and influence on the rest of the world. Many American's are lazy, fat, and stupid, but so are a lot of French people.

I myself would like to live in the south of Italy, Calabria, or somewhere in the Carribean(sp?) like Costa Rica(just kidding). I am a fisherman and I love warm weather and indigo blue water.

You should come try some of our sport fishing down here...Ill make a "Tico"(Costa Rican) out of ya...

ticoblunts
01-19-2007, 04:50 PM
im a greedy, materialistic mother fucker
i want easy, fast money
fuck yeah im american

honestly the majority of people out there who hate us because they anvy our lifestyles and wish they had our money

obviously that doesnt apply to all europeans but many other countries

man if having USA money means; living under their laws...wking 2 jobs to live well and having no time to enjoy life...U CAN KEEP IT!!! WAY OVER RATED!!

ZedRULES
01-19-2007, 04:51 PM
:twocents: I read all these threads and have to say that when America was an isolated country, not meddling in world affairs, we were critisized for complacency when Germany went on conquest in WW1. Since then, we have been "allies" to like minded countries who recognize that not every nation or leader is a benevolent selfless rule or impose grave injustices against their own people...okay, let's shred the NATO Accord and let America pull out of every petty conflict and redirect it's focus on bettering the lives of the Tax paying Americans...fuck world opinion, because when it comes down to it, the rest of the world depends on our our money, troops and equipment...time for the US to outsource this "World COP" mentality and take care of #1...You Canadians & Mexicans are part of North America, but that's where it stops!!! We don't owe illegal aliens & those hostile to the US shit...fuck off, pay back all the money the US sent to help all those countries...look to yourselves...this country is SELF Sufficient and if everything stopped flowing into the US, we would still exist, rearrange our priorities and become stronger in the process.:mad:

ticoblunts
01-19-2007, 04:56 PM
I doubt the USA would survive without latinos!! USA is a country based upon foreigners!! There is no such thing as a real "american" those were all killed by the europeans who came to the continent!! The majority of american now are sons and daughters of imigrants from either Italy Mexico Cuba Irelans all of Europe...the list goes on....Lets not be racist now!!

Delta9 UK
01-19-2007, 05:00 PM
this country is SELF Sufficient and if everything stopped flowing into the US, we would still exist, rearrange our priorities and become stronger in the process.:mad:

Rubbish - take OIL away and you are Fucked.

But I like Americans I have family there. Some people can't seem to seperate nation and people - I have no such problems. I don't blame 270+Million people for the actions of a small group, that would be narrow minded and a bit silly.

Purple Banana
01-19-2007, 05:00 PM
People are assholes anywhere. There are assholes in the UK, the US, Australia, Sweden, Iceland, Russia, Kenya, and even Canada for fuck's sake.

When people make generalized assumptions about my country and my people based on our government's decisions, then that shows plain ignorance.

I love the USA, the people, the land, but I (as well as 70% of Americans) don't agree with what Bush is doing. This is his last chance to "fix" Iraq, and we all know he will fail. Hopefully in '08, there will be a better president. I think Barack Obama is looking good. Even if he is Democrat and conservative, he seems very level headed and steady handed.

My point is, all of you outside the US blasting us for what GWB has done, just remember- your country may be at risk for his mistakes, but the American people are dying for it in greater numbers than yours, due to elevated troop count, and higher risks for terrorist attacks on our country. Be thankful that you aren't spied on, have your mail randomly searched without a warrant, have your phone calls tapped, and prosecuted heavily for smoking a J.

LIP
01-19-2007, 05:04 PM
They call us fat - I'm actually skinny
They call us lazy - Only some times lol
They call us loud - I usually don't say anything in real life unless it's worth saying (or unless I'm too high to realize I'm babbling about nothing).

I honestly don't think people from U.K. and stuff would dislike me. I just want to make friends all around the world and smoke a few blunts with everyone and enjoy life :).

Im from UK and i concider you a good friend. I concider alot of people on here good friends.

I dont particually like loud annoying people, but that doesnt mean Americans. Theres fat loud annoying people in every country.

ticoblunts
01-19-2007, 05:05 PM
People are assholes anywhere. There are assholes in the UK, the US, Australia, Sweden, Iceland, Russia, Kenya, and even Canada for fuck's sake.

When people make generalized assumptions about my country and my people based on our government's decisions, then that shows plain ignorance.

I love the USA, the people, the land, but I (as well as 70% of Americans) don't agree with what Bush is doing. This is his last chance to "fix" Iraq, and we all know he will fail. Hopefully in '08, there will be a better president. I think Barack Obama is looking good. Even if he is Democrat and conservative, he seems very level headed and steady handed.

My point is, all of you outside the US blasting us for what GWB has done, just remember- your country may be at risk for his mistakes, but the American people are dying for it in greater numbers than yours, due to elevated troop count, and higher risks for terrorist attacks on our country. Be thankful that you aren't spied on, have your mail randomly searched without a warrant, have your phone calls tapped, and prosecuted heavily for smoking a J.

Who says the US residents are not being spied on?!?!?!?!?! Fuckin GWB is up to more than meets the eye!!

Skrappie
01-19-2007, 05:05 PM
I find it funny when people who havent been anywhere, throw around the phrase 'most americans'.

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 05:07 PM
So you are saying that they might be planning a terrorist attack, but you don't see the point of war?

What would you do then, as a civilian? End the war and eventually get attacked on your own soil? In your own home?

I see the point of war.. its an excuse to take something that wasnt even theirs in the first place.. the same has happened in every corner of the world...since the terrorists (western power) begun. think about it. from one bad thing to another..

yet they make no mistakes.. innocents die because of greed not war. a war is fought between two enemys not between a super power and a country that hasnt even got basic plumbing. they went in done what they have done forever and left blaming everyone elsse..

Peace..
TBB

btw i love u man..lets get hitched... peace
again i love all people except those who harm others.

PatrickHenry
01-19-2007, 05:07 PM
if God came down and said to bush or blair hey man wtf have you done to my world, thed be like were looking to expand our buisness. thats all.. changes subject

Peace
TBB

LMAO Dude! SO True!

Purple Banana
01-19-2007, 05:09 PM
I'm saying we ARE being spied on, having our mail randomly searched without a warrant, our phone calls tapped, and prosecuted heavily for smoking a J...

Other countries may have a few of those issues, but not all of them happening at the same time. America's civil liberties are being shit upon.

ticoblunts
01-19-2007, 05:11 PM
yeah shit upon because of the same fact that there is soo much money in that country...a small poor country like CR cant afford spy software!!! je je je je

LIP
01-19-2007, 05:13 PM
The drug laws in America are completly outrageous, and no one can disagree.

I mean, for hard drugs, its a good thing, but to be arrested for possesing a gram of plant matter... That's almost unheard of in alot of countries. I think it's more the fact that they actually bother to take people to court and put them on probation for it.

It's just a waste of tax payers money.

Nochowderforyou
01-19-2007, 05:15 PM
I have nothing against the American people, but one thing I do notice, is that the country isn't as one. It seems each state is its own country. You have Texas pride, Alabama pride, West cost pride, but where is the true American pride? People say it, but I don't see it. The states act independantly, not as a country.

But hey, each country has their own problems. In Canada, we have the shittiest military equipt. around, from the 50's I think. I always worry that if someone attacks, what the hell are we going to do? You know.

Who cares though. I don't care. I judge by peoples attitudes and actions, not where they're from. :)

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 05:20 PM
hmmm what about orwells book... that man was a prophet.. in his day. the western seed was just at its worst. enslaving killing raping anything . they even smoked crack ffs lol.

what im saying is fuck it i dont no what im say ima way da get stoned...

i dunno like but arent origanal lol amerikans from ireland and england. WE have some of the oldest scriptures and names
dating back way before the found the new land

Peace
TBB

ZedRULES
01-19-2007, 05:21 PM
:420thought: Okay...I regret those previous remarks, made out of the passion of the moment:D I do want to get along with the world community and just get tired of all the criticizims directed at us...it will take a lot of time for US voters to assemble a credible government in 2008...until then, we have a loose canon in the White House who is bent on keeping a "Promise to the IRAQI people" , sending our troops to die in some civil conflict...and forgetting His OBLIGATION to the AMERICAN People. We need to pull out of the middle east simply because it will continue to exacerbate hostilities over there where we are looked upon as meddlesome and controlling.:confused: Poverty, housing & schools are often times overlooked when this "HAWK" mentality resides in Washington...
The Canadians and the Mexicans are valuable to the US economy and do contribute to the bussiness of commerce as well as tax dollars...however, they have no right to judge us anymore than we have a right to judge them.:cool: Most of our troubles have to do with who we put in office, and changes are coming...watch & wait. :cool:

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 05:24 PM
i love canada its so strong and the people are fantasic. it truely stands among the greatest countrys in the world.,.

Peace

Purple Banana
01-19-2007, 05:25 PM
Why the fuck do people say Amerika or Amerikkka? That just shows complete ignorace of the fact that 99% of Americans hate the KKK...

So please stop with that nonsense Amerika shit, it's America or US...

Nochowderforyou
01-19-2007, 05:28 PM
Why the fuck do people say Amerika or Amerikkka? That just shows complete ignorace of the fact that 99% of Americans hate the KKK...

So please stop with that nonsense Amerika shit, it's America or US...

I think people say that because the KKK was founded in Alabama way back whenever. That's like saying, all Irish people are drunks, or English people have bad teeth, or the Canadians say "eh" and "aboot" It's just another stereotype, and it will always be around.

Instead of getting mad about it, I have found the best thing to do is just to ingore it. It's not leaving, and getting mad just sucks, so fuck them and such.

kdspecial
01-19-2007, 05:29 PM
Regardless of what some say, i didn't read all the posts just some.

IMO Americians are for the most part great people (everyone I know anyways). They are controlled by their govt. Much like every other country. Im Canadian I am lucky to live where I live and in a country that is well recieved world wide. but if I was an Americian I would have the same amount of pride in my country. I have several friends from the USA and all of them say the same thing. They dislike the govt but what can they really do. Actully most of them wish they lived in Canada. But our Govt is looking more like the US everyday. Soon Health Care will be gone... Thats right in Canada you don't have to pay to go to the hospital. Its pretty fuking sweet,,,,,,

I'm dammm proud to be a canadian However I am also proud to live up north to our Southern Brothers and Sisters the USA...

kd_special

Nochowderforyou
01-19-2007, 05:35 PM
I am envious of the US taxes. Not like here, where the government takes 29% of your wages for taxes. :rolleyes:

Purple Banana
01-19-2007, 05:40 PM
I'm just waiting for pamphlets to be distributed through mail

"So you want to move to Canada"

I think it would be well-recevied.

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 05:43 PM
Why the fuck do people say Amerika or Amerikkka? That just shows complete ignorace of the fact that 99% of Americans hate the KKK...

So please stop with that nonsense Amerika shit, it's America or US...

ill rite watever i want to write about amerikkka, if tupac can i can.. no shuss.. how do you no 99 percent hate them. id say alot of americans have mixed feelings.. ive watched alot of documantarys.. your country is so big that its impossible to do an accurate census .

Please dont hate me cuz of the way i type.

Purple Banana
01-19-2007, 05:47 PM
I never said I hate you. I just think the useage of that word is very inaccurate and ignorant... The KKK is in existance, but they're so underground that they hardly have any prevalence, except in some parts of the south.

Unless you've lived here for more than 10 years, at outsider can hardly get an accurate look at America.

Nochowderforyou
01-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Didn't 2 Pac say Amerikkka for a different reason? I thought it was Kali Killa's or something along those lines? Hell, I don't know shit about 2 Pac. :p

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 05:52 PM
yes i get it. and i respect that you know i get my info from web or television .. which has basicly dumbed the nation... is that a word.. dumbed..lol.

take care
TBB

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 05:54 PM
Didn't 2 Pac say Amerikkka for a different reason? I thought it was Kali Killa's or something along those lines? Hell, I don't know shit about 2 Pac. :p

well yes hes talkin bout racism but.. understand. i type like an idiot.. from noww on its proper grammer.. lol

peace

GotWake88
01-19-2007, 05:55 PM
Nearly all of what the other countries see about us is what they see on their news stations. And let's face it. News never has good things on it. If they do, you look at the TV like they are fucking retarded.

All they see is LOUD, OBNOXIOUS, STUBORN, ASSHOLES.

Well honestly, most americans do fit to that steriotype.

America is a better country than most. But it isn't the best.

I have been trying to come of with something. I call it a reformed anarchy. But if anyone has the true name of this please tell me.

An anarchy, the only difference though, the lack of government and guidance only pertains to what you do to yourself, and your family. familiy matters are handled by the family. Family matters include EVERYTHING that one family member does to another.

But if you kill a person, then the town you live in becomes a giant jury against you and your punishment is figured out.

You can drink and drive and do all that stuff, but the punishment for taking a life while under the influence of anything(marijuana might be included or not) the punishment is Much MUch MUCh MUCH higher than if you just kill a person.

But you can put whatever the fuck you want in your body.

Now, no country in this day and age can live without a military. So I propose this. Another country does this, idthink it is sweden but I could be off.

Every male is required(and females can if they choose to) to go into a training program when they reach a certain age. After the training program they are presented with their gun, and amnuition. Every so often they have to go back and repeat the program. If the country becomes under attack, we would have a plan developed to gather all male troops that are willing(how many wouldn't be to protect freedoms like that?)to fight and go to war.

Just sounds like a better country than any I could think of.

I know that I am an arrogant jackass, but honestly, anyone who considers theirself better than another because of their country, and beyond that steriotyping all of us, is a bigger arrogant jackass than I can describe.

I have met many people in america that are incredibly nice, sweet people. Mostly girls, because most guys are jackasses in my oppinion.

Well </rant>

Anarchy(from greek:an archos)=without rulers, not necessarily without government. See libertarian socialism.

PatrickHenry
01-19-2007, 05:57 PM
I'm an American History major. If people realized what our past is based on they would be outraged. I blame it on our shitty education system, oh and, the Bush dynasty. We're all from different cultures and that's what makes us strong. My family is Irish, Mexican, Polish, English, and Vietnamese, to say nothing of our friends whom are of every complection you can imagine. Harnessing all of these cultures is what makes America great and you can't find it anywhere else.

Oppression is in every country, and always will be, you can pick and choose where you want to fight the battle.

Purple Banana
01-19-2007, 05:58 PM
Racism, at least in my part of the US, is hardly an issue. Sure, there are people who are racist, both black and white people. But the majority don't act on it, just come up with stupid stereotypical 'jokes.' People think if you're against affirmitive action, then you're a racist. I'm against it, but I also can't stand AA for women, too. Getting a job because you fill a percentage quota of black, asian, or women is just ridiculous.

Again, if you don't live in America, you don't know.

Dutch Pimp
01-19-2007, 05:58 PM
[QUOTE I just think the useage of that word is very inaccurate and ignorant... The KKK is in existance, but they're so underground that they hardly have any prevalence, except in some parts of the south.


...they prefer to be called...Keg Kounty Kowboys....I am surrounded by them..

...they know not to bother me...or anyone else...

PatrickHenry
01-19-2007, 06:02 PM
I have nothing against the American people, but one thing I do notice, is that the country isn't as one. It seems each state is its own country. You have Texas pride, Alabama pride, West cost pride, but where is the true American pride? People say it, but I don't see it. The states act independantly, not as a country.

But hey, each country has their own problems. In Canada, we have the shittiest military equipt. around, from the 50's I think. I always worry that if someone attacks, what the hell are we going to do? You know.

Who cares though. I don't care. I judge by peoples attitudes and actions, not where they're from. :)

That's what makes the country strong. Our country was a series of colonies and the federal government was originally only supposed to deal with a few issues, like levying taxes, issuing currency, managing international relations, and managing interstate commerce. The state and local government was supposed to deal with the rest. Unfortunately over the years bureaucracy has smothered our system and only now people are beginning to realize how much of a benefit strong state's rights are. You can see this clearly in the recent raids of cannabis dispensaries in California. As the weed was taken away, protesters chanted "State's Rights!." The CA authorities aren't busting people, it's the Feds. This is a tragedy that would sadden our forefathers immensely.

PatrickHenry
01-19-2007, 06:09 PM
ill rite watever i want to write about amerikkka, if tupac can i can.. no shuss.. how do you no 99 percent hate them. id say alot of americans have mixed feelings.. ive watched alot of documantarys.. your country is so big that its impossible to do an accurate census .

Please dont hate me cuz of the way i type.

I gotta tell you and I'm not being an ass; but I'm from L.A. and if you realized what Tupac was really about I don't think you'd be about it. I've seen a few european guys with quotes from some of our gangsta rappers and I don't get it. Do you guys identify with them or what? I'm not dogging you, I'm just curious. Sometimes I forget the way music can go across the world.

lil josh
01-19-2007, 06:11 PM
lol England FTW!!!

English Vs America 24/7 lol harmless fun.

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 06:24 PM
well to me.tupca is a legend but im a man for biggie.. yes i like rap..
i cant explain it . mybe i do relate.. but ive just always like the lyrics. very good.. hes a good man..
im this country crime is the same as in L.A. we dont rap or nothin .. we arent cool dudes we like trance dance and alot of drugs.. i only smoke weed..

well i gotta go its 18.23 and ive had no smoke all week so im away to ardoyne to get some grass. illcheck back tonite..

Peace
TBB

PatrickHenry
01-19-2007, 06:34 PM
well i gotta go its 18.23 and ive had no smoke all week so im away to ardoyne to get some grass. illcheck back tonite..

Peace
TBB

Get on it brotha!:rastasmoke:

bucknuts1870
01-19-2007, 07:10 PM
They aren't bending the privacy laws to catch Joe Pothead smoking a blunt or pushing a few ounces. They are trying to catch Mohammed building a cell phone detonator for his breifcase sized nuclear bomb that he purchased from a militant islamic nuclear physicist living in Tehran(I forget his name). Said terrorist is planning to set off this small nuke let's say, from a boat on the Potomac? How would THAT effect this country and the world. Give them all the power they want, they aren't listening in on Jane Smith in Paducah, Kentucky. They are listening to Akbar talking to his child hood friend in Lebanon, or Zawahiri contacting his sleeper cell in Nebraska.

It is important to have people in power that are willing to bend the rules to accomplish the task at hand. If this country were run by the ACLU we would all be killed, famined, poverty stricken, or stuck in a depression.

benagain
01-19-2007, 07:20 PM
This is a long thread. While re-reading all of it, I smoked a bowl and sipped a beer. Now I can't remember what I wanted to post. Something about having pride in where you live.... I dunno. Love aroud the world

LIP
01-19-2007, 07:30 PM
This is a long thread. While re-reading all of it, I smoked a bowl and sipped a beer. Now I can't remember what I wanted to post. Something about having pride in where you live.... I dunno. Love aroud the world

Im very patriotic. I also love Canada.

ZedRULES
01-19-2007, 07:48 PM
OK bucknuts...use the "terror" card to rubber stamp away the freedoms my family and millions of others have fought so hard to preserve...don't you see? Right now, the excuse is for national security, but where will it end??? Erasing the Constitution & burning the Bill of Rights is the end result...don't you fear BIG BROTHER? You should...those DEA agents that raid the MMJ dispensaries think they are protecting the "American Dream"...all "illegal" drugs contribute to crime & terrorism...Give me a fuckin' break!!!...most of the so called terrorist activity in IRAQ before the war was a dumbass despot who had no connection to the people he rules, holding onto very old/ineffective WOMD...US gave them a virulent strain of anthrax when Iraq was fighting IRAN, Russia, Germany & France gave huge amounts of equipment & technology to help Iraq fight Iran. We went to war because that asshole Hussein wouldn't back down and hand over those bullshit old weapons...this is hardly protecting American Soil...get off your fuckin' horse and survey the land...we caused a greater threat to our security by provoking an already hostlie middle east fanaticism.

b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
01-19-2007, 07:58 PM
you cant sum up someones PERSONALITY by what country they come from

Im from england so i have bad teeth, i drink tea, and i talk posh..

imo its just as bad as rasism

edit - and just for the record.. i have perfect teeth, i fuckin hate tea.. and i hate posh people

N3D FLANDERS
01-19-2007, 08:04 PM
except for being lazy i don't fit the American stereotype

lol Mexicans get more shit for being lazy than Americans do though

b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
01-19-2007, 08:08 PM
i like rasist jokes tho

why'd they invent white chocolate? so black kids could get messy too

what do u call 1,000 white men fallin from the sky? Snow.

how do you find the richest mexican in your area? Drop a penny, the first mexican to pick it up is the richest

hope i didnt offend anyone but imo its ok to make fun of each other, as long as your not being seroius about it.. i love hearing jokes against white people, even tho i am white.. as long as they arnt being seroius and dont have hatred towards my race, then its just harmless fun :D

benagain
01-19-2007, 08:11 PM
I like white jokes. If you can't laugh at yourself, then you can't really have pride in yourself.

thebeancounter41
01-19-2007, 08:16 PM
They call us fat - I'm actually skinny
They call us lazy - Only some times lol
They call us loud - I usually don't say anything in real life unless it's worth saying
I'm skinny NOT fat.(Avg brit weighs about 30lbs more than me)
I own my own business and while I consider myself lazy, if I can make 40,000 a year sitting on my skinny butt, why shouldn't I be lazy?
Loud I am NOT.In fact, I leave my house on avg only 3 times a week.My neighbors think I'm a ghost I make so little noise.

The true villians today are the Mullahs who brainwash good muslims into committing atrocities like the WTC disaster in the name of "god"Almost every major atrocity in the history of man can be laid at the feet of religious fanatics.Everythig from the Crusades to the spanish inquisition.

PatrickHenry
01-19-2007, 10:13 PM
They aren't bending the privacy laws to catch Joe Pothead smoking a blunt or pushing a few ounces. They are trying to catch Mohammed building a cell phone detonator for his breifcase sized nuclear bomb that he purchased from a militant islamic nuclear physicist living in Tehran(I forget his name). Said terrorist is planning to set off this small nuke let's say, from a boat on the Potomac? How would THAT effect this country and the world. Give them all the power they want, they aren't listening in on Jane Smith in Paducah, Kentucky. They are listening to Akbar talking to his child hood friend in Lebanon, or Zawahiri contacting his sleeper cell in Nebraska.

It is important to have people in power that are willing to bend the rules to accomplish the task at hand. If this country were run by the ACLU we would all be killed, famined, poverty stricken, or stuck in a depression.

Stop sacrificing our freedoms in the name of false government protection! The ACLU simply fights for people who have no one behind them. This is completely noble and deserves to be commended. It's sad that some are so misinformed they vilify such groups.

medicinal
01-19-2007, 10:27 PM
Sacrificing our freedoms in the name of terror means the terrorists are winning, are you really afraid? I thought not, neither am I, but the loss of our freedoms scare the hell out of me, I'd rather take a chance some terrorists might slip through all the protective apparatus we've got working, than give up all the freedoms we've fought for, for 3 hundred years! Just one white boys opimion!

Gatekeeper777
01-20-2007, 01:32 AM
To the rest of the world from an older american.

We have helped you out in WW1 we have helped you out in WW2 we have even helped out in Korea, and even took a black eye in NAM. But when we were attacked on 9/11........... Where were you?
Why when someone needs an ass kicked or to play the world police they call up the USA?
And lastly don't worry G.Dubya will be history in a few anyhow.
Gate

brookerosebud
01-20-2007, 01:54 AM
here come the democrats... LEGALIZE!!!

Gatekeeper777
01-20-2007, 02:22 AM
here come the democrats... LEGALIZE!!!

no.......libritairian that wants to LEGALIZE too regaurdless of idiot idealology.

Purple Banana
01-20-2007, 06:20 AM
Any man who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserves neither liberty nor safety...

Gatekeeper777
01-20-2007, 06:55 PM
Benjamin Franklin and fellow libriatrian.

Psycho4Bud
01-21-2007, 12:45 AM
Any man who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserves neither liberty nor safety...

Sorry but I haven't really noticed what great liberties that I have given up within the last 20 years. Granted, if I'm making international calls on a regular basis to Pakistan they might be tapped but hell.......since my cousin Afshine passed on about five years back so thats no longer a worry.:rolleyes:

PLEASE, tell me of ALL the liberties that I've recently lossed.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Psycho4Bud
01-21-2007, 12:49 AM
To the rest of the world from an older american.

We have helped you out in WW1 we have helped you out in WW2 we have even helped out in Korea, and even took a black eye in NAM. But when we were attacked on 9/11........... Where were you?
Why when someone needs an ass kicked or to play the world police they call up the USA?

EXACTLY!!! Like I stated before.....they can pick a cheek and kiss my red, white and blue ass.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Bong30
01-21-2007, 02:50 AM
To the rest of the world from an older american.

We have helped you out in WW1 we have helped you out in WW2 we have even helped out in Korea, and even took a black eye in NAM. But when we were attacked on 9/11........... Where were you?
Why when someone needs an ass kicked or to play the world police they call up the USA?
And lastly don't worry G.Dubya will be history in a few anyhow.
Gate



Hell Yes......


100% behind you Gate.

eg420ne
01-21-2007, 03:05 AM
Sorry but I haven't really noticed what great liberties that I have given up within the last 20 years. Granted, if I'm making international calls on a regular basis to Pakistan they might be tapped but hell.......since my cousin Afshine passed on about five years back so thats no longer a worry.:rolleyes:

PLEASE, tell me of ALL the liberties that I've recently lossed.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Well P4B when you have an AG who says "The Constitution does not say that every citizen has the right to habeas corpus" & A president who says this "There ought to be limits on freedom" then you have to assume THEY talking about Me & You since we do illegal deeds about everyday.. We all know that cannabis IS still illegal unless i missed a news short the other day....I still have that recorded for that joint(one joint i say again)and still to this day when im stopped im am automaticlly searched cause of that one joint...IF this land of the free comes with limits, we ought to drug test our public officials every week, esp the president.. but other then that everythings find with my liberties:cool:

TheBudBuster
01-21-2007, 01:04 PM
if one politican was found using cannabis. then all the laws should be FUCKING Thrown OuT ThE STUPID WHITEHOUSE WINDOW.

Ive no doubt in my mind that at least half of the politicans across the world use marijuana hash cannabis watever EVERYDAY. how the hell else could they put up with all that BS.

daima
01-21-2007, 02:51 PM
Sorry but I haven't really noticed what great liberties that I have given up within the last 20 years. Granted, if I'm making international calls on a regular basis to Pakistan they might be tapped but hell.......since my cousin Afshine passed on about five years back so thats no longer a worry.:rolleyes:

PLEASE, tell me of ALL the liberties that I've recently lossed.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

the worst kind of tumor is a tumor that goes unnoticed until its too late.
tell me what liberties you have? lets discuss those.

dai*ma:stoned:

Psycho4Bud
01-21-2007, 04:31 PM
the worst kind of tumor is a tumor that goes unnoticed until its too late.
tell me what liberties you have? lets discuss those.

dai*ma:stoned:

Just once I'd love to see the left in here actually answer a question without asking one first.....after you. What big liberties have I lost in the last 6 years.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Gatekeeper777
01-21-2007, 05:33 PM
Well we had our phones tapped with out a warrent. Do to the patriot act the writ of habias corpus is thrown out. They can hold ya forever now without charges. The term terrorist is so week a home grower could be considered one.
I say fuck you when asked to give up my freedoms. The odds of me dying in a terrorist attack is slim to none anyhow. But the odds that my uncle sam is planning to go NAZI are growing. Absolute power corrupts.
Altho it is a way to get the people into the mind set of a one world government.
It has been proposed that the USA,Canada and Mexico join ecconmic forces and have one curency simular to the euro.
Most americans spazzed at the offer. FUCK THAT!
My forefathers got pissed off about how they were treated by King George and rebelled and created a new world because they got tired of being shit on. We EARNED our rights and freedoms.
I say to the rest of the world if you cant atleast fight for what you want dont bother calling me to do it for you. Cuz if your not willing to risk your ass why should I risk mine?
When the US government want to take away your freedoms they scare you with terrorist bullshit!
And the american people usually go along with it.
BAAA BAAA!
Where are you going little sheep?
To the slaughter house follow me BAAA BAAA!
Think with your head, follow your heart and dont believe everything your uncle tells you.

FreeVenice
01-21-2007, 05:49 PM
To the rest of the world from an older american.

We have helped you out in WW1 we have helped you out in WW2 we have even helped out in Korea, and even took a black eye in NAM. But when we were attacked on 9/11........... Where were you?
Why when someone needs an ass kicked or to play the world police they call up the USA?
And lastly don't worry G.Dubya will be history in a few anyhow.
Gate

HERE HERE. . . . people act like this is the first time a government was in a war for profit. If you look up any war there were always protestors, the only differance now is the media, and who in the right mind listens to all that propaganda. All these other countrys will turn there backs now, but by the time they need help our youth will be in the House and they will be against going to war. especially as a favor to another country. This is the first war that we joined without another country asking us too. except for battles on our land.

Gatekeeper777
01-21-2007, 11:42 PM
War for profit?
America was built on war. We kill. Thats what we do.
We started with the Native Americans we told them where to live how to live and then we took their land.
Sound familair? I have nothing against the rest of th world. I just think that when a nation plays follow the leader blindly and the leader is a fucking retard, whats that make you?
Don't go bashing the Muslims over this war. Anyone who takes religion to seriously aught to be locked up and checked for inbreeding.
And for the ones here that dont think that the christian religion can be bent and twisted like the muslim religion is by its radicals. try to google WACO TESAS or JIM JONES.
The reason weed is STILL ILLEAGLE is that most smokers only stand around bitching about it and dont REGISTER to VOTE. wel i have this to say to you. DUH!!!!!!
If you dont vote and dont like what you see............shut the fuck UP!

horror business
01-21-2007, 11:48 PM
They call us fat - I'm actually skinny
They call us lazy - Only some times lol
They call us loud - I usually don't say anything in real life unless it's worth saying (or unless I'm too high to realize I'm babbling about nothing).

I honestly don't think people from U.K. and stuff would dislike me. I just want to make friends all around the world and smoke a few blunts with everyone and enjoy life :).


Orangeman said what I was going to say. I'm not fat, I don't eat chips, or candy, or anything, (although I do eat unhealthy things, like cheeseburgers and fries), I'm lazy because I can be, and I never talk unless online for the most part. In my mind I talk plenty, but I never really have a reason to vocally say what's on my mind, because most of the time I am my mind.

Just like the US sometimes has negative opinions on middle easterns. That they live in the sand, or desert, that it sucks there, etc... Well, I talked to an American who moved to Jordan, and she said it's better than the United States, and that to live in the rich area, it's $150 a month. She showed me a video of the music and culture, etc... and it's not shitty at all. It's a really nice country. So, I think everyone needs to get over their steryotypes, because they are all lies. Just like, we see through the marijuana stereotype that it's bad, etc... we should see through all of the stereotypes because they are all based on negative false information. If we all do that, and put aside differences and get to know people, etc... the world will be a better place.

And smoke.

Gatekeeper777
01-22-2007, 12:47 AM
I am an American I am not fat....but i am getting there thanks to my girlfriend Mary Jane.
I am not lazy i only call off work when i dont feel like going.
I am not loud. I ONLY YELL WHEN I GET ANGRY!
All stoners should just hang up the hangups and uniter.
WONERBUD POWERS ACTIVATE!

daima
01-22-2007, 01:48 AM
Just once I'd love to see the left in here actually answer a question without asking one first.....after you. What big liberties have I lost in the last 6 years.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:


reading your e-mail
reading your mail
wiretapping your phone
tracking back records
president hiding his records( the publics records,yours and mine) for life.
Everytime you use a credit card thet know where you are
everytime you make a phone call its recorded and they have access to those records (as we just seen the phone companies gladly giving up what were suppose to be private records)
They know what books you checkout at the library
They know where you sho[ how many kds you have
how much money you have in the bank
they now want to know whats in your pee
where you went to school
where your kids go to school
how much money you make
the list goes on and on.....

Where are all the freedoms you say you are killing the "terrorist" to defend?
23 men freed in the last 5 years by the , innocence project, wrongly convicted and sent to prison for 25 years. That was just in Dallas Texas, alone.

You are tracked by your gas reciepts, cell phone use, pictures taken when you go in to pay in cash....whoops another recording of you in the land of the free. The land with all the rights and dignity one could ever possibly be afforded. Yep. The land with the largest prison population in the history of the world, while claiming to be the most fee. yep.
Bust down your door for smoking a plant that wasnt grown by a friend your local politican has as a finacial supporter. yep. real free bunch.
What a load of crap.
Now go pee in a cup for uncle sam and show him how much you love him.
Isnt trust and the freedom to be happy great? lmao.
Now, go have some kids, send them off to war and be a good american.
After all, that is your duty. Be a obedient producer of worker bees and keep this war machine thats disguised as a government afloat.

Now....back to those liberties you claim to have. Your turn. Wait a minute...let me get my star spangled bummer cd out. I got emotional when i read what a patriot you are, and how unfaithful we are.

dai*ma:stoned:
You know....every ten years or so our country and some other little country we start firing our newest weapons at one another......right or wrong, like it or not, it happens, and when it happens people get shot and when people get shot they show it on tv a lot every night at six oclock and you dont even need to be 18 to see it....you dont even need to be in the first grade...first grade where they teach the kid the pride they tell him he'll need to thrive in a world where they say only the strong will survive so he's taught the art of more to compare to and keep score monday through friday while he stare the floor, and then sunday comes along and this time they make him go to school once more only this time to listen to some guy in a suit and a tie claiming to know where people go when they die saying something about how only the meek are going to inherit the earth....well shit, by this time the kid doesnt know what anything is worth.... to be continued:D

Gatekeeper777
01-22-2007, 02:06 AM
there is an estimated 100 people who flee to Canida every day for one reason or another. But yet it goes unnoticed by the main stream media.

Well The US Declairation of Independance says if you dont like your government overthrow it. I say OVERGROW it!

Gatekeeper777
01-22-2007, 02:20 AM
First of all our form of government doesn't suck. FDR sent thousands of Jap's to "Internment Camps" and he is recognised as one of our greatest presidents ever.



The american government made an official appology for that dumbass move and also made repremations to the japs for putting them into camp. COMRAD.

Gatekeeper777
01-22-2007, 02:32 AM
They aren't bending the privacy laws to catch Joe Pothead smoking a blunt or pushing a few ounces. They are trying to catch Mohammed building a cell phone detonator for his breifcase sized nuclear bomb that he purchased from a militant islamic nuclear physicist living in Tehran(I forget his name). Said terrorist is planning to set off this small nuke let's say, from a boat on the Potomac? How would THAT effect this country and the world. Give them all the power they want, they aren't listening in on Jane Smith in Paducah, Kentucky. They are listening to Akbar talking to his child hood friend in Lebanon, or Zawahiri contacting his sleeper cell in Nebraska.

It is important to have people in power that are willing to bend the rules to accomplish the task at hand. If this country were run by the ACLU we would all be killed, famined, poverty stricken, or stuck in a depression.

WOW WHERE DO I BEGIN!???
Prove to me that they are NOT listening to me. You cant cuz they wont tell you who they are listening to and refuse to provide proof.
If they want to hear me get high and jerk off to a phone sex operator. CUM on over!
your last paragraph really bashes my balls.... why would you want someone to bend the rules. HE IS OUR LEADER and he is NOT above the LAW!
BEND the rules? You have to have RULES to bend them.
Its easy to sit at your desk and play war with plastic soldiers and not have a plan or exit stratagy. Cuz when the phone rings or the nurse comes into put your helmet on cuz you gotto go pee pee. But its a totally nother issue to do it with human lives and boast terrorism. Next i think you'll prolly say that the US is winning the war on drugs.
If you have to be THat fucking scared and worry about anthrax in your mail or a bomb along side the road or by a bomb in the car then i have toi say "PUSSY".
Here is a suggestion. go buy a bullet and rent a gun!
You want to know what its like to live without freedoms and librities?
to to china or the old poland or chechloslovokia or even old russia. then come back and tell me you want to give it up to hide from a PHANTOM menace.
Jesus christ! Don't sell me away.

Gatekeeper777
01-22-2007, 02:40 AM
maybe i should run for president. thats right i didnt inhale so its all good.
Being a libritarian. I get a lil pissy when i am told its raining and look to see someone pissing on my foot.
I refuse to give up my freedoms so easy, i gave enough allready.
We help feed the bastards. stop shipping them food. once they get hungry, then we talk, when they come to eat feed em pork then gut them like the pigs they are.

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 04:08 AM
reading your e-mail
reading your mail
wiretapping your phone
tracking back records
president hiding his records( the publics records,yours and mine) for life.
Everytime you use a credit card thet know where you are
everytime you make a phone call its recorded and they have access to those records (as we just seen the phone companies gladly giving up what were suppose to be private records)
They know what books you checkout at the library
They know where you sho[ how many kds you have
how much money you have in the bank
they now want to know whats in your pee
where you went to school
where your kids go to school
how much money you make

Lost all them rights in the last 6 years huh? :rolleyes:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

TheBudBuster
01-22-2007, 01:22 PM
well unless your a suspected terrorist i dont think the can do all that. but they sure can f*** ya in the ass if they want to...

daima
01-22-2007, 01:25 PM
Lost all them rights in the last 6 years huh? :rolleyes:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

some of it in the last 6 years.
the fact is that its happened and still happeneing.
i'd kiss your red white and blue ass, but i wouldnt know where to start.

dai*ma:stoned:

"if the american people knew what we were up to they would chase us down the street and lynch us"

-g bush (interview with vanity fair magazine):confused:

daima
01-22-2007, 01:30 PM
Lost all them rights in the last 6 years huh? :rolleyes:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

oh yeah, no copouts here p4b.
your turn.
what liberties do you have that as an american makes you so special around the globe?
What "freedoms" do you enjoy that , according to you not many people in the world enjoy?
this should be a hoot.

dai*ma:stoned: sf ca 94110
yes sir officer no offence taken
you have a good one too:D

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 01:51 PM
well unless your a suspected terrorist i dont think the can do all that.

Exactly...........Like I said, been years since I've made frequent calls to Pakistan.:rolleyes:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

TheBudBuster
01-22-2007, 01:53 PM
WHAT IS SO GOOD A BOUT LIVING UNDER BUSH.. WHY IF THE PEOPLE KNOW HES RONG .. WHY CANT THEY DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. im baffled.. its the same situation here.. but cum on have wee no power at all over how the countries are run....

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 02:05 PM
oh yeah, no copouts here p4b.

Your answer was a copout........LOL, but that's o.k. :D

your turn.
what liberties do you have that as an american makes you so special around the globe?

You live in San Fran and need to ask this question? LOL.......just take a walk down your main street and you could probably see at least 5-10 examples.

What "freedoms" do you enjoy that , according to you not many people in the world enjoy?
this should be a hoot.

dai*ma:stoned: sf ca 94110
yes sir officer no offence taken
you have a good one too:D

We have more freedom than some in relation to press, religion, assembly, speach.......but not as much as others in some areas like drugs, prostitution.

"According to me"?? When? Where? You can't provide links now quotes also........Ain't That A Shame.:D

Oh ya, I've got the option for psychiatric care if I'm feeling paranoid.....as do ALL other U.S. citizens.;)

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 02:09 PM
WHAT IS SO GOOD A BOUT LIVING UNDER BUSH.. WHY IF THE PEOPLE KNOW HES RONG .. WHY CANT THEY DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. im baffled.. its the same situation here.. but cum on have wee no power at all over how the countries are run....

Ummmm, this is the thread title, "Yeah, I am an American, So what!".

What's so good about living under Bush? What did Clinton do about the Al-Quada attacks on the U.S..........nothing! At least Bush has some balls.

Another good thing about living under Bush...........LOL:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

TheBudBuster
01-22-2007, 02:17 PM
clinton GOT SOME hahahaha.. i get it man.. at least you guys have the ability to score primo weed whenever.. all i can do is dream..

Peace
TBB

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 02:21 PM
clinton GOT SOME hahahaha.. i get it man.. at least you guys have the ability to score primo weed whenever.. all i can do is dream..

Peace
TBB

Why score when you can grow your own. I'm doing VERY well on "primo weed", but thank you for your concern.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

psychocat
01-22-2007, 02:45 PM
I love America but sometimes it's for the wrong reasons.
Next country to invade? - Google Video (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2587661313510275113&q=label%3A%22stupid%22)

PatrickHenry
01-22-2007, 02:58 PM
Psycho4Bud, are you a republican? Do you understand that the reason cannabis has the legal standing it does is because of republican minded people? Remember Reagan and his "Just Say No" program? Remember his Vice President? Time to go to school and start reading.

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 03:42 PM
Psycho4Bud, are you a republican?

I don't like to be put into a catagory but if I were, my tests/beliefs state Libertarian with a lean to the right.

Do you understand that the reason cannabis has the legal standing it does is because of republican minded people?

REALLY! Remember, it's the evil republicans that are out for the buck. The dems protect my health.....which one is more likely to be pro-cannabis in the future?

Remember Reagan and his "Just Say No" program? Remember his Vice President?

Remember Clinton, the largest $ increase on the war on drugs?

Time to go to school and start reading.

Tell me how it goes.......good luck to ya!:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Bong30
01-22-2007, 03:45 PM
Psycho4Bud, are you a republican? Do you understand that the reason cannabis has the legal standing it does is because of republican minded people? Remember Reagan and his "Just Say No" program? Remember his Vice President? Time to go to school and start reading.

There is more to life than Drugs.......

if they cut your head off, you cant inhale...cause the smoke just goes out the hole...where your head used to be....idiot.


How much weed is smoked in Islam?


So YES STFU.............

daima
01-22-2007, 03:57 PM
Tell me how it goes.......good luck to ya!:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

if bs was gold you'd be a richman.

I have been to Asia...(Japan, Phillipines, Korea, Indonesia)
Europe(GB, Netherlands, Germany, France, Austria, Sweden, Portugal)
Australia
New Zealand
Canada
Mexico
Columbia
Venezuela
Panama

4 years in the military.

Now....just where have your travels taken you? Where do you get your devine knowledge from? fox news?
Who told you you were free? those demanding your pee? those demanding your head for smoking products other than tobacco? or those who will one day demand that your kids fight in an illegal war?
lmaO.

Terrorism doesnt scare people today.....
what scares people today are republicans........
that and um....democrats.
i will now leave you to your own delusions.

By the way, i didnt expect much of an answer from you and my expectations were exactly right.

dai*ma:stoned: San Francsico California USA

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 04:23 PM
By the way, i didnt expect much of an answer from you and my expectations were exactly right.

Love, love, love but insultive as hell.
Not a capitalist but have several properties, own this and that, traveled here and there.

I would imagine your NOT a hypocrit either :rolleyes:

The name of the thread still confuses you as usual but what country would you prefer to live in and why the hell haven't ya left? Isn't it just capitalistic pigs that travel the world? Wouldn't that money have been better spent feeding the poor? Three properties with all the homeless people in the fine city of San Fran? Coming from the city of smug your responses and attitude really doesn't suprise me at all.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

thcbongman
01-22-2007, 06:37 PM
We have more freedom than some in relation to press, religion, assembly, speach.......but not as much as others in some areas like drugs, prostitution.

"According to me"?? When? Where? You can't provide links now quotes also........Ain't That A Shame.:D

Oh ya, I've got the option for psychiatric care if I'm feeling paranoid.....as do ALL other U.S. citizens.;)

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

All 1st world countries have those basic freedoms: press, religion, assembly, speech. Go to any country in Western Europe, and they share this same philosophy. This is bare minimum if you are a country claiming to have freedom. I don't find any of these traits special enough that we can claim bragging rights of freedom. America was the pioneer of these basic freedoms, but compared to the direction other 1st world countries are going, these privilages have become more restrictive and tracked. Regardless of the stance and spin on these issues, whether right or wrong, restricting access to information, and increases in oversight affects the USA's standing on freedom. Over the past 20 years, the US has gone that direction.

America's reference to "freedom" is economic freedom. Low taxes, less restrictive barriers to entry, equal opportunity education system. This here is what makes America great. DIY country.

So America's restricts an individual's ability to act according to his will in regards of social freedoms. I don't believe it's doomsday like some here do. It simply shows stagnation in progressive human thinking.

How one views liberty is in each one's pursuits. It's different for everybody.

daima
01-22-2007, 06:51 PM
Ummmm, this is the thread title, "Yeah, I am an American, So what!".

What's so good about living under Bush? What did Clinton do about the Al-Quada attacks on the U.S..........nothing! At least Bush has some balls.

Another good thing about living under Bush...........LOL:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

clinton is disgusting, but there is a difference between him and bush.

clinton screwed his intern
bush screwed his country.

dai*ma:stoned:

daima
01-22-2007, 06:56 PM
There is more to life than Drugs.......

if they cut your head off, you cant inhale...cause the smoke just goes out the hole...where your head used to be....idiot.


How much weed is smoked in Islam?


So YES STFU.............

actually Islam approved of cannabis, but didnt allow the use of alcohol.
Read your history.

The catholics would burn you alive for using herbs for healing or any other purpose. and would only allow blood-letting and wearing a bird mask for healing.

Todays christians may execute you for using cannabis, jail you, steal your property, steal your kids, lose your job, steal your home, take your money and throw you in with violent murderers and rapist where you could be raped, killed, given a std, beaten.

dai*ma:stoned:

Bong30
01-22-2007, 07:06 PM
actually Islam approved of cannabis, but didnt allow the use of alcohol.
Read your history.

The catholics would burn you alive for using herbs for healing or any other purpose. and would only allow blood-letting and wearing a bird mask for healing.

Todays christians may execute you for using cannabis, jail you, steal your property, steal your kids, lose your job, steal your home, take your money and throw you in with violent murderers and rapist where you could be raped, killed, given a std, beaten.

dai*ma:stoned:

STFU comes to mind....

you learn....


What does Islam say about Drugs?
6/24/2004 2:45:00 PM GMT


Why are drugs, intoxicants so, awful, foul and vile in Islam?

Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) has described drugs together with all sorts of intoxicants as:

1. The key to all evils.

2. The head of all errors and lapses.

3. The most terrible of major sins.

4. The mother of all atrocities.

5. The mother of all evils.

Let us look at what the scholars have said regarding the effects of drugs:

Ibn Hajar Al-Makki narrates from some scholars that they are 120 harmful things occur by the consumption of drugs Not 10, not 20, but 120.

Also Ibn Sina said that large amounts of it dries up semen (The fluid that carries sperm thus rendering him incapable of passion in sexual intercourse).

Ibn-ul-Bitaar says: A group of people used it (drugs) and they became mentally deranged (insane).

Imaam Zarakhshee narrates in his book upon the prohibition of Hashish from Zakariyah Razee, a famous doctor, that consuming hashish causes headaches, desiccates semen, brings about confusion, Neurosis, dries up all body fluids which could cause sudden death. Also it defects the mind, induces hectic fever, and tuberculosis.

Ibn Taymiyyah (a renowned scholar) says: All the faults, blemishes, bad things in khamr (wine) are present in hashish and more. Because the majority of faults in khamr is sinful, but hashish is both sinful and harmful to the body.

"Khamr" comes from the root word "Khamara" which means "to cover." Thus anything that covers or hinders the mind is prohibited. This includes anything that alters the mind, such as marijuana, heroin, cocaine, Hashish and anything else that affects the mind.

Allah says :

"O You who believe, intoxicants, gambling, and the altars of idols, and the games of chance are abominations of the devil; you shall avoid them , that you may succeed." Qurâ??an (5:90)

Allah also says:

"They ask you about intoxicants and gambling: say, "In them there is a gross sin, and some benefits for the people, ( alcohol in medicine for example, cocaine in anesthesia and pain medications) But their sinfulness far outweighs their benefit. ........" Qurâ??an (2:219)

Islam is a religion that respects and protects faith, life, property (ownership) and the mind (intoxicants, among which is drugs). Normally in the brain there is an inhibitory control which tells us not to engage in shameful or wrongful acts. Any suppressant drug will suppress this nerve pathways and take away such restraint. Ability to make a judgement, to protect the body or honor, a quality for humans is taken away under as a result of drugs.

Allah says :

"O you who believe! Approach not prayers, with a mind befogged, until you can understand all that you say." Qurâ??an (4:43)

Allah also says:

"O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divinations by) arrows, are an abomination of Satan's handiwork: Avoid such (abomination) that you may prosper." Qurâ??an (5:93)

"Satan's plan is to sow enmity and hatred among you with intoxicants and gambling, and to hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. Will you not then give up." Qurâ??an (5:93)

No easy solution can be offered to solve the problem of drugs. Forit is a multifactor problem and each aspect should be addressed individually, and seriously, both by the government and by the public. While the total ban on production, import and export is the ideal solution to create a drug free society, by experience it is difficult to achieve unless strict laws are made and enforced on drug producers, traffickers and offenders, a law, that sees distinction between the helpless victim and a powerful drug Lord.

Islam provides us Muslims with such laws to protect our morality and health. While we are trying to do these, we in the mean time should pay more attention to the needs of the victim (the one who takes drugs) by the education of the masses, social workers, law enforcements agencies and the physicians at the same time developing treatment. However this requires motivation and commitment from all of us. It is beyond the dignity of a human being to become dependent on drugs be incapable of serving himself


once again STFU.....next

daima
01-22-2007, 07:12 PM
Love, love, love but insultive as hell.
Not a capitalist but have several properties, own this and that, traveled here and there.

I would imagine your NOT a hypocrit either :rolleyes:

The name of the thread still confuses you as usual but what country would you prefer to live in and why the hell haven't ya left? Isn't it just capitalistic pigs that travel the world? Wouldn't that money have been better spent feeding the poor? Three properties with all the homeless people in the fine city of San Fran? Coming from the city of smug your responses and attitude really doesn't suprise me at all.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

yes, i own 3 properties.
I help feed the poor
I help house them.
I take people that need rides to medical appointments
I have bought bags of groceries for those in need(still do)
I have bough boxes and boxes of diapers for kids.(still do)
I do volunteer with AIDS patients.
I have two kids
I have 3 grandkids
I have one dog
I teach music on a sliding scale, and free to those who just simply cant afford it any place else.
On fridays i usually hand out condoms and clean needles to hookers and addicts for a few hours.

I worked my ass off for years without complaining and am now retired at 50+ years old.(including 4 years of active military service and 2 years reserve)

Why havent i left?
America is my home. My obligations as an American are to defend the Constitution and fight those who seek to dismantle it, foreign and domestic, and not to defend any specific idea or person(s). Those who i defend out of the goodness of my soul are lucky to have me.
And just like my house, when i see people like bush and clinton and mccain and kerry, and the likes, doing harm to myself, my constitution, and my neighbors, i confront them.
I dont give them blowjobs while they take my rights and my freedoms as a human being away, like some do.
I am not a capitalist
I am not a communist
I am not a socialist
I am not a religious person at all.
I'm just happy to be here at all.;)

dai*ma:stoned: San Francisco California USA

Bong30
01-22-2007, 07:15 PM
you and nancy.... great.....


San Fran-sicko....sums it up.....


You dont stand for shit daima......

daima
01-22-2007, 07:23 PM
STFU comes to mind....

you learn....


What does Islam say about Drugs?
6/24/2004 2:45:00 PM GMT


Why are drugs, intoxicants so, awful, foul and vile in Islam?

Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) has described drugs together with all sorts of intoxicants as:

1. The key to all evils.

2. The head of all errors and lapses.

3. The most terrible of major sins.

4. The mother of all atrocities.

5. The mother of all evils.

Let us look at what the scholars have said regarding the effects of drugs:

Ibn Hajar Al-Makki narrates from some scholars that they are 120 harmful things occur by the consumption of drugs Not 10, not 20, but 120.

Also Ibn Sina said that large amounts of it dries up semen (The fluid that carries sperm thus rendering him incapable of passion in sexual intercourse).

Ibn-ul-Bitaar says: A group of people used it (drugs) and they became mentally deranged (insane).

Imaam Zarakhshee narrates in his book upon the prohibition of Hashish from Zakariyah Razee, a famous doctor, that consuming hashish causes headaches, desiccates semen, brings about confusion, Neurosis, dries up all body fluids which could cause sudden death. Also it defects the mind, induces hectic fever, and tuberculosis.

Ibn Taymiyyah (a renowned scholar) says: All the faults, blemishes, bad things in khamr (wine) are present in hashish and more. Because the majority of faults in khamr is sinful, but hashish is both sinful and harmful to the body.

"Khamr" comes from the root word "Khamara" which means "to cover." Thus anything that covers or hinders the mind is prohibited. This includes anything that alters the mind, such as marijuana, heroin, cocaine, Hashish and anything else that affects the mind.

Allah says :

"O You who believe, intoxicants, gambling, and the altars of idols, and the games of chance are abominations of the devil; you shall avoid them , that you may succeed." Qurâ??an (5:90)

Allah also says:

"They ask you about intoxicants and gambling: say, "In them there is a gross sin, and some benefits for the people, ( alcohol in medicine for example, cocaine in anesthesia and pain medications) But their sinfulness far outweighs their benefit. ........" Qurâ??an (2:219)

Islam is a religion that respects and protects faith, life, property (ownership) and the mind (intoxicants, among which is drugs). Normally in the brain there is an inhibitory control which tells us not to engage in shameful or wrongful acts. Any suppressant drug will suppress this nerve pathways and take away such restraint. Ability to make a judgement, to protect the body or honor, a quality for humans is taken away under as a result of drugs.

Allah says :

"O you who believe! Approach not prayers, with a mind befogged, until you can understand all that you say." Qurâ??an (4:43)

Allah also says:

"O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divinations by) arrows, are an abomination of Satan's handiwork: Avoid such (abomination) that you may prosper." Qurâ??an (5:93)

"Satan's plan is to sow enmity and hatred among you with intoxicants and gambling, and to hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. Will you not then give up." Qurâ??an (5:93)

No easy solution can be offered to solve the problem of drugs. Forit is a multifactor problem and each aspect should be addressed individually, and seriously, both by the government and by the public. While the total ban on production, import and export is the ideal solution to create a drug free society, by experience it is difficult to achieve unless strict laws are made and enforced on drug producers, traffickers and offenders, a law, that sees distinction between the helpless victim and a powerful drug Lord.

Islam provides us Muslims with such laws to protect our morality and health. While we are trying to do these, we in the mean time should pay more attention to the needs of the victim (the one who takes drugs) by the education of the masses, social workers, law enforcements agencies and the physicians at the same time developing treatment. However this requires motivation and commitment from all of us. It is beyond the dignity of a human being to become dependent on drugs be incapable of serving himself


once again STFU.....next

The prophet Mohammad didnt view cannabis as a drug. He allowed its use, but outlawed the use of alcohol.

As for the currect drugwar status?
many muslims, like many christians, have turned away from their god and have outlawed that which their god says is, good.

dow chemical = bad plant
cannabis = good plant
gw bush = aweful fucking stupid plant

dai*ma:stoned:
The gnostics considerd the cannabis plant the "tree of life"
The Buddha?Hindu believed it came from God for human enjoyment
Sufis of Islam used cannabis...as did.......
Zoroastrians (tribe of the 3 wisemen)
Shintoism (japan)
Essenes (sect of ancient Israeli's)
Early Jews
Coptic Christians
Bantus (Africa)
Rasatafarians
Theraputea(Egypt)

Source: world book encyclopedia britannica ;History of the world.

daima
01-22-2007, 07:27 PM
you and nancy.... great.....


San Fran-sicko....sums it up.....


You dont stand for shit daima......

i agree with you 100%. i do not stand for shit, nor will i ever.
great observation on your part.

dai*ma:stoned:
ps, pelosi sucks, but hey, i dont have anything to do with her or the democrats. I would never vote for either party.

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 07:31 PM
yes, i own 3 properties.
I help feed the poor
I help house them.
I take people that need rides to medical appointments
I have bought bags of groceries for those in need(still do)
I have bough boxes and boxes of diapers for kids.(still do)
I do volunteer with AIDS patients.
I have two kids
I have 3 grandkids
I have one dog
I teach music on a sliding scale, and free to those who just simply cant afford it any place else.
On fridays i usually hand out condoms and clean needles to hookers and addicts for a few hours.

LOL.......sure ya do.:rolleyes:

America is my home. My obligations as an American are to defend the Constitution and fight those who seek to dismantle it

You mean like radical Muslims...........NO???

I dont give them blowjobs while they take my rights and my freedoms as a human being away, like some do.

LMAO!!!!!!! You live where again????

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

daima
01-22-2007, 07:39 PM
LMAO!!!!!!! You live where again????

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

rarely do i encounter people that actually lower my iq, but every once-in-a-while, unfortunately, i do.

dai*ma (patiently waiting for your list of what makes you as an american so great)

PatrickHenry
01-22-2007, 07:44 PM
Pyscho4Bud has to be a troll. He identifies with libertarians, smokes bud, and leans to the right? HAHAHAHA. They hate us for our freedom!

Troll or Uneducated; your pick!

Bong30
01-22-2007, 07:46 PM
PH
Cock or Dick ..... you pick?

I say Cock.....

PatrickHenry
01-22-2007, 07:48 PM
PH
Cock or Dick ..... you pick?

I say Cock.....

Your mom's filthy cunt! hHAHAHAHAHHA lmao.

Just kidding, I love you neo-cons. You're a dying breed, we need to keep a few of you around for history's sake!

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 07:59 PM
Pyscho4Bud has to be a troll. He identifies with libertarians, smokes bud, and leans to the right? HAHAHAHA. They hate us for our freedom!

Troll or Uneducated; your pick!

LOL.......coming from you and daima I consider your insults just the opposite. Some day when you peoples heads are buried in the sand don't bitch when a boot gets stuck up your ass.

Insultive little pricks that proclaim peace and freedom........and you two CLAIM not to be democrats........LOL

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

PatrickHenry
01-22-2007, 08:12 PM
Why are our heads going to be buried in the sand? I missed that part.

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 08:21 PM
Why are our heads going to be buried in the sand? I missed that part.

Why ARE they? LOL........just as soon as you pull them out, a couple of you may just actually notice whats happening in the world today.

I stated this before; you people want to debate the thread titles....cool, you want to have a flame fest...I can play that shit too.:D
Just don't cry when your ass gets lit up.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

PatrickHenry
01-22-2007, 08:44 PM
Why ARE they? LOL........just as soon as you pull them out, a couple of you may just actually notice whats happening in the world today.

I stated this before; you people want to debate the thread titles....cool, you want to have a flame fest...I can play that shit too.:D
Just don't cry when your ass gets lit up.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

K, I promise not to cry. What's happening in the world that you think I'm not noticing? Enlighten me!:smokin:

Psycho4Bud
01-22-2007, 08:55 PM
K, I promise not to cry. What's happening in the world that you think I'm not noticing? Enlighten me!:smokin:

I'll get back to ya here.......seems there are fuck heads in here that feel that ripping off plants is easier than buying or growing. REAL stoner friendly attitudes! HOW the fuck are we ever going to get anything legalized if we're known to each other as being fucking crooks!:mad:

Sorry bout the rant.......

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Gatekeeper777
01-22-2007, 09:00 PM
well unless your a suspected terrorist i dont think the can do all that. but they sure can f*** ya in the ass if they want to...


The usa patriot act so loosly definds terrorist that they can lable anyone a terrorist. of anykind. and prosicute them as such.

Cable/satalite hacker...economic terrorist
Weed grower/dealer social terrorist
get my point. you dont have to run a plane into abiulding anymore to make the shit list.
the american people are paranoid.

Gatekeeper777
01-22-2007, 09:14 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... weed was made by god huh?
Then why i s weed so evil? Was it put here to test us?
OPS! I failed.
God was made to explain the unexplainible and help control the people with the men in power.
If there is a God and we are his children explain to me world famine,disease,war,poverty. Would you let your kids suffer. Maybe if you were a sadomasicistic DICK!
If there is a God why then would he let a pope come to power over his most powerful church with a man who was in the HITLER youth as a youngster that advocated the killing of his people? If you still think there is a god you need to scrape your pipe.
As a man of science i say weed was put here by genetic changes in the DNA structure through chance. Man found God the minute he rolled it and smoked it.
AMEN!
When any nation takes matters in to their own hands in the name of GOD I question their motives.

eg420ne
01-22-2007, 09:48 PM
Now hell P4B in the hell can you get a boot up your ass when your buried in sand....lol..........."Some day when you peoples heads are buried in the sand don't bitch when a boot gets stuck up your ass." or is that a figure of speech..im just messin wit you;)

daima
01-22-2007, 09:51 PM
LOL.......coming from you and daima I consider your insults just the opposite. Some day when you peoples heads are buried in the sand don't bitch when a boot gets stuck up your ass.

Insultive little pricks that proclaim peace and freedom........and you two CLAIM not to be democrats........LOL

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Never voted democrat in my life.

as for you lil prcik comment? well, thats probably the best you can do so i'll let you enjoy yourself for a while.

proclaiming fredom and peace imo, but not always the opinion of others, doesnt mean standing by silently.
My silence wont protect me.
All i ask and have ever asked ,...was to be free.
My government doesnt want me to be free.
I will not allow a flag, or a two party crime family, dictate how i feel. Nor will i allow slogans dictate how i feel.
I have never called myself a "liberal"
I have never called myself a "conservative"
nor a capilalist'communist'socialist, etc etc. Those are your labels, not mine

dai*ma
hey little buddy
dont get angry
o god, please at least not at me
you know that i am right behind you
all the way ol'compadre you just
say what ever you want and i'll agree:D

TheBudBuster
01-22-2007, 10:21 PM
to me the pope has nothing to do with god.. its madness. but its what i believe. its what keeps me going. some day well be free to do what we want..
Peace

Bong30
01-22-2007, 10:36 PM
all these people talk freedoms and rights.......

No lib ever talks about the responsibility, that come with those rights.........WTF?????

Dont ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country......

No Dem thinks like that today....cause they slid so far left they are socialist....

Todays Lib =.....what can the counrty do for every other person except Americans......

eg420ne
01-22-2007, 10:55 PM
"we have nothing to fear but fear itself" it sure does take away what our good christian leaders tell us to fear these dayz---this is the most fearmoggering leadership in the history of the USA or even the world!

psychocat
01-22-2007, 10:57 PM
And pray tell what the kids being shot and blown up in Iraq are actualy doing for thier country? Fighting in a country they had no right to invade.
America is like the rest of the "modern" world, corrupt, decaying and just plain rotten.
The stranglehold of the west on third world countries is slipping and the empire is no more. The politicians have given up on delivering the promises of old (better education,better welfare) and now they want to sell themselves as protectors from the evils of the world. Has anyone else noticed how the media has been hyping the whole live in fear ethic? The governing bodies want you to be afraid, it stops the people thinking about what a mess the big boys are making of everything at home. Ever notice how it's joe public picking up the tab for all the foreign trips and the champagne lifestyles of the elite, you think thats going to change?

Psycho4Bud
01-23-2007, 12:24 AM
Never voted democrat in my life.

as for you lil prcik comment? well, thats probably the best you can do so i'll let you enjoy yourself for a while.

So sorry, I realize it's more intellectual to refer to someone as a dog fucker.:rolleyes:
SMUG ALERT!:eek:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Psycho4Bud
01-23-2007, 12:27 AM
to me the pope has nothing to do with god.. its madness. but its what i believe. its what keeps me going. some day well be free to do what we want..
Peace

The entire "church" system has nothing to do with God. If I recall, Jesus lived a meager life, no stain glass, gold candle holders, etc.....

They just spent over $2 mill to build up a new church down the highway from me. While these folk are enjoying the goods there are people hungry on the streets. Seems anti-religious to me.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

PatrickHenry
01-23-2007, 01:30 AM
The entire "church" system has nothing to do with God. If I recall, Jesus lived a meager life, no stain glass, gold candle holders, etc.....

They just spent over $2 mill to build up a new church down the highway from me. While these folk are enjoying the goods there are people hungry on the streets. Seems anti-religious to me.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Yet you're Republican... Why do you think the Republicans won the last election? Could it have been from the support of the evangelicals? You have no direction.

The Rebuplicans are steeped in old puritanical views, they want to show us the right way to live. Ban drugs they say, "they are destroying our society." Ban abortions, "they are killing children of christ." Ban stem cell research, they MIGHT be killing the children of christ. Meanwhile, let's bomb some poor brown people and launch a ground attack. We'll use our old trusty supply of lower class young men whom have no other opportunities in life. Oh yeah, and let's ban flag burning. Only those commie asshole liberals are doing it! Ah, that makes perfect sense.

Welcome to the Grand Oil Party!

Bong30
01-23-2007, 02:24 AM
Bill i wouldnt want to talk to gdub.....

I would never give a penny to mickey moore, but i saw a trailer of gdubs golf swing.....on the 9-11 bullshit...

im down with your little scenerio, insted gdub and I are golfing......LOL

Bong30
01-23-2007, 02:42 AM
Yet you're Republican...
You bet your ass.... Liberalism is a mental disorder.....

Why do you think the Republicans won the last election?
Uhhh where the "F" were you the republicans lost the 06 elections.....(no voter fraud either...isnt that wierd? part of the disorder)

Could it have been from the support of the evangelicals?

The evangelicals SUCK, but they dont want to cut your head of and make your MOM wear a berka.....

You have no direction.
NO one will look up to you, when your ear is on the ground....

The Rebuplicans are steeped in old puritanical views, they want to show us the right way to live.
Capitalism not socialism......seams easy Commie....

Ban drugs they say, "they are destroying our society."
Ban Hard drugs, and Legalize Mariujana......

Ban abortions, "they are killing children of christ."

I am Freedom of choice, under cetrian limits...(ie girls 16 must have parental concent)

Ban stem cell research, they MIGHT be killing the children of christ.

They have found ways to get stem cells from embriotic fluid.....

Meanwhile, let's bomb some poor brown people and launch a ground attack.

^^^^ you are the racist fuck^^^^^^^

You can be black, brown, yellow, white, under Islam (radical Wahhabist to boot)....

We'll use our old trusty supply of lower class young men whom have no other opportunities in life.

We all have the same opportunites..... for many people they NEED an ass kicking the military can provide.....LIKE YOU.

Oh yeah, and let's ban flag burning. Only those commie asshole liberals are doing it! Ah, that makes perfect sense.

I believe in the 1st sorry...defend it to the death...fuck off once again.....

Welcome to the Grand Oil Party!

How about alternitive fuels like ethanol......? Help farmers here in the states?

In 2004, around 42 billion liters of ethanol were produced in the world[2], most of it being for use in cars. Brazil produced around 16,4 billion liters and used 2,7 million hectares of land area for this production, or 4,5% of Brazilian land area used for crop production in 2005.[3] Around 12,4 billion liters were produced as fuel to ethanol-powered vehicles in domestic market.






Once you pull your head out of your ass Take your stereotypes of republicans and Pack them right in there.....:jointsmile:

Psycho4Bud
01-23-2007, 02:44 AM
Yet you're Republican... Why do you think the Republicans won the last election? Could it have been from the support of the evangelicals? You have no direction.

First off when did I state that I was republican?
Next, does a person have to follow a partys complete guideline in order to have direction? What about independent thought/values?

The Rebuplicans are steeped in old puritanical views, they want to show us the right way to live. Ban drugs they say, "they are destroying our society." Ban abortions, "they are killing children of christ." Ban stem cell research, they MIGHT be killing the children of christ. Meanwhile, let's bomb some poor brown people and launch a ground attack. We'll use our old trusty supply of lower class young men whom have no other opportunities in life. Oh yeah, and let's ban flag burning. Only those commie asshole liberals are doing it! Ah, that makes perfect sense.

Welcome to the Grand Oil Party!

Ban drugs.......both parties, don't shit yourself
Abortions, stem cell research........not for me to judge, why not have it legal?
Bombing poor defenseless assholes that would just as soon see me dead.......good, let me push the button
Right to burn a flag.......no problem.......just as long as I got the right to stick my boot up their asses in response

And the Dems don't give a rats ass about oil? LOL...........

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Psycho4Bud
01-23-2007, 02:51 AM
When it comes to politics, P4B and myself stand on opposite ends of the field. However, I wouldn't let that get between us if a crazy bomb riddled terrorist tried to get into his house.


Likewise but you wouldn't see them at my house. They don't know whats on the other side of the door. They like to prey on the weak......they said it was a matter of time before the U.S. would turn into a bleeding heart and their words are coming true.

Just nobody bitch when your grandkids have to go through a hell that'll make this look like a picnic. Let them slide for now, re-arm with better weapons and war hardened people to train new forces. Hell, let Iran get a nuke.......just as long as it's not our generation that has to watch the blood flow.........

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

PatrickHenry
01-23-2007, 02:54 AM
HAHAHAHAH. You guys crack me up!

You both need to go to college and get an education. I'm serious; study, read, go to strong professors and absorb their knowledge. You'll appreciate my advice. I know you guys probably think schools are just liberal think tanks, but just do it anyway. Education is the key for guys like you!

As for the racism comment, both my wife and I are brownies. LMAO AGAIN!!!

Bong30
01-23-2007, 03:03 AM
whites dont corner the market on Racism...Idiot.


Go listen to /........who WARD CHURCHILL....??????Please

once again i would rather be my kind of smart than your kind of stupid.....

Psycho4Bud
01-23-2007, 03:07 AM
HAHAHAHAH. You guys crack me up!

You both need to go to college and get an education. I'm serious; study, read, go to strong professors and absorb their knowledge. You'll appreciate my advice. I know you guys probably think schools are just liberal think tanks, but just do it anyway. Education is the key for guys like you!

Been there done that and you prove to me what my ol' man always said, "Book smarts is great but without common horse sense it don't mean shit".

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

TheBudBuster
01-23-2007, 01:45 PM
The entire "church" system has nothing to do with God. If I recall, Jesus lived a meager life, no stain glass, gold candle holders, etc.....

They just spent over $2 mill to build up a new church down the highway from me. While these folk are enjoying the goods there are people hungry on the streets. Seems anti-religious to me.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

excactly mate thats why i hate them.. thes millions of people that could do with some help.. i just cant agree with it.. its sickening to think the pope eats flipin venison loin and the are people that have to eaT DUSTY BREAD. is hes such a hoply man why not give all his meals to the poor.. thats wat a rightous man should do ifhe was in that position..

i do grow.. check out my pics on ireland forum.. tell me what yas think..

Take it easy
TBB

Psycho4Bud
01-23-2007, 08:04 PM
i do grow.. check out my pics on ireland forum.. tell me what yas think..

Take it easy
TBB

VERY nice pics........just got done with a harvest myself.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

medicinal
01-24-2007, 01:11 AM
Been there done that and you prove to me what my ol' man always said, "Book smarts is great but without common horse sense it don't mean shit".

Damn Psycho, you amaze me, My exact sentiments. It's amazing that educated fools can't find their ass with both hands sometimes, And even when they get a handle on it, they over-analyze! I'm dealing with a bunch of them on another site, they keep me busy! "Un-educated fools from un-educated schools"

TheBudBuster
01-24-2007, 02:30 PM
thanks p4b i cant wait to chop em..

Peace
TBB

psychocat
01-24-2007, 06:15 PM
How many things "American" are really American?
Even your national anthem was written by a brit.

Psycho4Bud
01-24-2007, 06:53 PM
I'm from Canada and we currently are supplying hydroelectricity and water to the U.S from Quebec and Ontario and we have the largest oil reserve which is located in Alberta, so until you guys have something to offer besides "protection satellites against Russian missiles " we don't need your military cus everyone loves canada.

If it weren't for "Big Brothers" satellites and military strength, the love for Canada would be much more than from afar. By the way, your all welcome for having us protect your asses for these many, many years for free.:D

Ya don't mess with a little brother when his big brother is a 5th degree black belt.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Gatekeeper777
01-24-2007, 09:00 PM
As an american I must say over the last 100 years we have helped conqure many evil regimes and helped bring democracy to alot of the world. We have taught the world alot, but you must remember my fellow YANKS.
The learning curve bends both ways.
I mean while the rest of the world was bieng handed freedom from oppresion and democracy, the United States was also at the same time learning to control its people and its press.
the USA of yester year is all but a bleak memory. Welcome to the U.S.S.A United Socialists States of America.
thanks to the patriot act you might as well take the declaration of Independance and wipe your ass with it.
That comes from many people wanteing to FEEL safe if someone yells terrorist.
Why then is there a 700 mile fence on a 2000 mile mexican/American boarder?
Why the can i walk to Canida? Why then can someone with a boat arive on our shores undetected?
How is it that the United staes Government can keep a cuban cigar out of this country but cant stop a terrorist or an illeagle alien?
Simple. THEY ARE FULL OF SHIT!
Now that i have revealed a lil truth to you my fellow americans....... you may resume with your head in your ass.

MotleyCrueBoy24
01-25-2007, 02:35 AM
I'm a pathetic american stoner bowler hippie metalhead. Fuck off.

Bong30
01-25-2007, 02:43 AM
I'm a pathetic american stoner bowler hippie metalhead. Fuck off.

Welcome.....

Gatekeeper777
01-25-2007, 03:36 AM
welcome to reality. lol