So my son asked me about marijuana

[JunkYard]

It was only a matter of time with my hightimes, and CC magazines scattered about my bedroom. He's 10 and wanted me to tell him about marijuana. We started talking, and he told me something he said to his teacher in school. (I was so proud) They had one of those anti drug discussions in his class the other day, and he apparenty had heard me talking about the benefits, and the bs anti marijuana propaganda out there trying to sway people from using.

Anyway he went straght up to his teacher and said, "Did you know marijuana has never killed 1 single person" Apparrently the speaker had told the class that marijuana was a VERY dangerous drug. I smiled from ear to ear when he told me that, and I asked what his teacher said. He said "She told me I need to do more research, lol!"

I said great! "Do as much research as you can, and one day you'll come to view it as I view it, man." We talked about what dangers it does pose, and the benefits of using a vaporizer to lessen those dangers. We also talked about how it's best not to smoke until after the age of 18, so his brain has time to mature normally. We also, talked about the legal issues, but he never asked how it made you feel. (I found that odd)

Anyway, after the talk he asked how he could become one of those people who try to make it legal. I was floored, man! This kid is 10, said he wouldn't smoke until after he turned 18, but still wants to learn how to become an activist. I told him what his teacher told him.. .."Do research" and I follwed with, "and be prepared to speak about its benefits, and teach others what you've learned" That's about all he can do @ age ten, and I'm gonna help him as much as I can along the way. It seems I have much research to do as well; that way I can be the one to help lead him in the right direction.

So now it's all in the open, he still thinks I don't smoke, but he got this big smile on his face when I told him that I used to, lol!

He said "Really?"

I said yup!

"Your not kidding with me are you"

"Nope"! :D

It was a good talk, and I'm pleased that he came to me about it. Some kids would NEVER trust their parents like that. It was a good day!


Junk! :smokin:

[Stemis516]

i dunno why but this post just gave me a very warm feeling inside


great!

[friendowl]

what a great boy

my son is 10 but he knows too much

he can grow a nice plant

[SonEtLumiere]

that is a beautiful thing man, i hope some day my son will do that thatd be amazing

[konqrr]

I wish I had you as my dad :D ...its not that I dont like my dad, its just that hes extremely close-minded. If I told him I smoked weed he would send me straight to rehab and with SATS coming up I wouldnt be able to handle that...

And I know how the conversation would go too...

"I dont care what your research says, it turns you into a fool, just look at all those criminals out there thats smoke pot" ... and that would be his answer no matter what I would tell him :(

[napolitana869]

wow you must have done a good job raising him.

[420izzle]

Goon on ya. But do be careful...
I recall asking my dad about that age about MJ...I recall vividly that he said yep, he used to do it and really enjoyed it. That was better than my mother lying about her history with the plant. But kids are so impressionable and YOU are a hero to your son. Just be careful...that's all.
Sounds great though. I have a son about that age too...the drug subject has come up, but I haven't gone 'there' yet. Goon on you and your son for being brave.

[420izzle]

GooD on you (is what I meant).

[Captain Hanks]

i dunno why but this post just gave me a very warm feeling inside


great!
Right with you man, I enjoy hearing this. I believe that by the time your sons adult years reach cannabis will be recommended for everyone!:rasta:

[SwirlyMass]

We also talked about how it's best not to smoke until after the age of 18, so his brain has time to mature normally. We also, talked about the legal issues, but he never asked how it made you feel. (I found that odd)


Junk! :smokin:

i found this really interesting because i think i know the answer.

he didn't ask you what it feels like because he can't even comprehend what could be differen't from what he is experiencing now and has expereienced in the past.

before you try a drug you have no idea about how superficial reality and life is. i remember when i awoke from the fog, it was before i had even smoked weed or done any hallucinogens. i just tried to think of what a drug could do to you and i thought about how it would effect your mind and your everyday perceptions about reality.

then i tried weed and got exactly what i expected. :smokin: :smokin:

[Platinum Plus]

Wow that's pretty cool
i never asked me parents this when i was 10
cuz i always got the "look what it does to people" speech
that's nice though shows you got a good relationship with you're kid
cuz not many children will ask they're parents sucha thing

[QPdoll]

i'm so glad to hear that you have such an amazing relationship with your son. he sounds like an intelligent young man and is already smarter than his teachers. the sad part is......his teacher is so closed minded that she will only see one side of the story and try to teach our children only that side....she told him to do research, but has obviously never done hers......well with parents like you (and me) our children will always know that there is another side to the story.

[SwirlyMass]

Seriously, tell your kid to ask his teacher (in a very superior way) to dig up all of her research that shows how many people have been killed by marijuana.

But that would make the school officals pretty suspicious about that particular boys home life. So it might not be worth it.

[Mr.Jesus]

He's gonna be a good man.

[KottonMouthKid]

I'm very glad that you have instilled the truth on your son from a young age.

My only question is, if you find out he has smoked before 18, will you be disappointed, or toke with him?

[stinkyattic]

Seriously, tell your kid to ask his teacher (in a very superior way)
.

Eh this kid sounds smart and bold.
Why add arrogant into the mix?

I just got a little teary reading that story for some odd reason! :o
You must be really proud of your son.

[AlwaysBlazed]

When I was ten I told my dad I found his stash and he told me it's not weed and he still tries to hide it sometimes but we both talk about smoking alot then I walk in on him with a joint and he bugs out, im like "dad chill i know"/

[Mosiah]

Your son has my vote in the next elections.

[mafyew]

that was an excellent video!

[SourDieselLover]

My daughter is only 6 and too young to know what it is even though they have already started DARE at school. I always think of this day though and I tell you, the only thing that I want to accomplish is not lie. I'd rather the talk come later than sooner, but I don't want to lie and agree with all the bullshit they teach. I guess it's a fine line...but congrats junkyard I'm sure you were proud on how he handled it at school. I'd be too paranoid they'd come looking for me if I had my kids stand up to or disagree with the teacher lol

[JunkYard]

I'm very glad that you have instilled the truth on your son from a young age.

My only question is, if you find out he has smoked before 18, will you be disappointed, or toke with him?


I don't know, man? On one hand I know it's best for him to wait, and on the other it wouldn't bug me much at all. Truth be told, marijuana is much safer than alcohol, and I'd be much more disapointed if he brought home a six pack than I would if he brought home an 1/8, ya know?

Of course, the legal ramifications have him scared at the moment, which is why he wants it to be legal. As for smoking with him before he's 18, no! But, on his eighteenth birthday, I'd probably give him a nice sack, but only if he already smokes, or still hints that he wants too.

Bottom line is I won't push my ways on him, but I won't allow him to be filled wth the bs, either.

Research! research, research! I'll let the facts speak for themselves, and he'll be a better man for it.. ..

btw, I've never smoked around him, and I won't until he is old enough to keep it on the down low, and THAT is why I keep my smoking activities away from him for now. Him knowing that I support legalization and 'why' is enough don't you think?


Thanks for everyones support, and 420izzle.. ..I'll be careful, cool? ;)


Much Love,


Junk~

[liberiamom]

What a good boy you've raised! We need to educate our kids about the truth and it sounds like you have done a fine job. We need smart kids like him to grow up and fight to eliminate the stigma from marijuana- thanks for setting a good example!

[SmokeItUp999]

you and your son both sound VERY smart!!!


:jointsmile: im unfortunate to have close minded parents, but i still love them so i've learned not to get upset with their "opinion"..everybody eventually learns to be their own individual and THAT'S what is to be expected

but i plan to do the same with my son/daughter...i have a lot of knowledge about every drug and ive seen how parents treats kids and IMO what i would do would try to get them to be SAFE about whatever their doing instead of trying to get them to cut it off..cause any kid wont listen, its just reality..you gotta flood their mind with facts, not with opinion..like extacy for example, if i found my kid with it (granded a respectable age of cource) i wouldnt try to STOP it, id try to get him to be safe with it, cause it can be an amazing drug and overall not negative for you if you do it no more than once a month (based on brain blood flow)...unless it was any drug that turns you into a zombie like some pills and heroin, cause my dad had a severe problem with that and hes quit but to this day, hes not the same

[2600HERTZ]

Good job man. And congrats. Maybe you guys will get around to toking together.

[ValkyrieAg]

To me, smoking pot is a personal thing. I didn't grow up sheltered by any means, but I remember when I was 10, my dad bought a cigar on a whim and smoked it on the way home. I had never seen him smoke anything before and it kind of scared me in a way.

I think smoking marijuana isn't something that should be learned, it should be discovered.

[ValkyrieAg]

While I value your opinion, I never said to teach your kids to be ignorant.

Of course they need guidance, but I don't think a parent introducing and promoting the use of marijuana at age 10 is a proper thing to do.

I was never talked to about marijuana and I am not a crack addict.
I just feel that drugs (yes even a mind altering plant) should not be around any kids under 15 period. Drug awareness classes are important as a youth. I am tired of seeing a bunch of burnt out 14 year old pot smokers that can't even get out of high school with a diploma.

If your kids are smoking pot at 10 and doing scary shit like meth from strange kids offering drugs....then you failed as a parent.

[five0addict]

great story,
id be so proud, to me that would be like the proudest moment of my life.

congrats

[JunkYard]

While I value your opinion, I never said to teach your kids to be ignorant.

Of course they need guidance, but I don't think a parent introducing and promoting the use of marijuana at age 10 is a proper thing to do.

:thumbsup:

I agree, Valkyrie but there is a difference between promoting recreational use of marijuana, and teaching the truth about it. It needs to be legalized for medicinal purposes. The laws are bogus (You know it; I know it) and it is up the parents to educate their kids on the subject when they show interest. Botom line is don't push your ways, but educate and guide gently. That's why I don't smoke around my kid, and suggest he do research on his own. I told him he shouldn't even consider smoking until at least the age of 18, and I told him that he needs to follow the laws until we can change them.

I wonder what things would be like if the civil rights movement never happened? I shudder at the thought of people allowing such unjust laws continue w/o a fight; it's the same with MJ, man. Somethings gotta change; if not now then when? Where do we start? I'll tell you where.. ..by educating our kids with truth. This means teach the high and the lows about marijuana use. It's not "completely" harmless, but it's for certain better than cigs, and alcohol, and a whole host of currently prescribed medication.


I was never talked to about marijuana and I am not a crack addict.
I just feel that drugs (yes even a mind altering plant) should not be around any kids under 15 period. Drug awareness classes are important as a youth. I am tired of seeing a bunch of burnt out 14 year old pot smokers that can't even get out of high school with a diploma.

I feel the same to a degree, but if you're a medical patient prescribed MJ for whatever condition, I think it's perfectly fine to have it around your kids; it's medicine for Gods sake.

14 year old "burnt out" pot smokers are a little diturbing to me, but not all 14 year old pot smokers fail in higschool. Infact, some are honor students, and go on to a University for higher education. I'd say there are few who fail at school; pot doesn't make you stupid, or lazy or unmotivated; it merely allows you to be what you already are, if not a bit more creative.. ..


If your kids are smoking pot at 10 and doing scary shit like meth from strange kids offering drugs....then you failed as a parent.

Agreed!


Junk~

[station]

JunkYard sounds like you have a great kid on your hands. and being 10 and that smart already, ur 1 hella of a daddio haha nice work i may say

i sence this kid is the guy the legalizes weed in the future :)

[420izzle]

Hey Junkyard. I thought about you and your son and this situation as I fell asleep last night. I have a 9 yeard old son, so this stuck in my mind I guess. It sounds like your approaching this subject good with your son. A couple areas that feel compelled to speak up on...
Like I said, you are his hero - whether he says/shows it. Your example is very important. Be careful on how you portray drug-use to him. When he's hearing how evil it is along with all the other drugs they categorize and teach the BS with, he may get confused. I also don't agree that he needs to research on his own yet, or be an 'inbetween' with his teacher and you as some have suggested. That's ridiculous. He needs to be considering other things at that age. I'm sure you know this...But he's reading cannabis mags in your room. And while I think it's great you don't smoke in front of him, he knows. Or at least he'll figure it out soon enough. Sorry...my rant. I just care a lot about kids. I grew up in ghettos with addicted parents and felt that pain. So I'm sensitive to this....
Take care,
Hope I don't get flamed too much.:confused:

[mc-blaze21]

ive read this thread and i have to say im very impressed i have 2 children and one on the way and i hope some day i'll have the same relationship with my kids as u do yours. i think if any of my kids ever wanted to try it i would have a chat with them first and after that if they still wanted to try it then i guess i would have to skin up. but i really do prase u man coz most kids these days are told the wrong things and its good u giving ur son the good and the bad facts of smoking ganja. we should help the next generation learn the right way not the goverments way which if i might add is 9/10 bollocks what they come out with but hey they just like to scare people. im 23 now and ive been an activist since i was like 13 i go to marches all the time and i cant wait to take my kids to one when there old enough i think it would really open there eyes to every thing. but you are right alot of research is needed to be done in order for any one to move forward in this fight but we will all over come one day and the ganja gods will shine down upon us lol seriouse tho we will get our way one day. laters all peace

[JunkYard]

Hey Junkyard. I thought about you and your son and this situation as I fell asleep last night. I have a 9 yeard old son, so this stuck in my mind I guess. It sounds like your approaching this subject good with your son. A couple areas that feel compelled to speak up on...
Like I said, you are his hero - whether he says/shows it. Your example is very important. Be careful on how you portray drug-use to him. When he's hearing how evil it is along with all the other drugs they categorize and teach the BS with, he may get confused.

I portray drug use as drug use, and I shun it. I have quite a lot of experience with several drugs, so I know what they can do. Marijuana is a legitimate medicine for some people, and I treat it as such. Those drugs w/o medicinal purpose are a BIG no no, and he kows this, xcepts it, and agree's. Yes, my son looks up to me, which is why I've taken it upon mysef to be an exampe.

He lives with his mother, and I get him every other weekend. When He's here, he's a normal kid playing video games and riding his horse. Sometimes we have really good talks, and other times he's content just being a kid. It's important to establish a trusting relashionship with your child early on, imo. That way when they get confused about something they'll come to you instead of someone else who might not be of suitable character.


I also don't agree that he needs to research on his own yet, or be an 'inbetween' with his teacher and you as some have suggested. That's ridiculous.


I'll continue to recommend that he educate himself through research, and by research I mean by reading material.. ..both the propaganda and the legit stuff. That way he can decide for himself and be objective. What do you mean by an inbetween? He's his own person, and my views are not his own. If he sides with it staying criminalized then I won't push him to change is mind, but I fully pan on guiding him in the right direction. I'm not gonna be one of those parents who are afraid to stand up for what's right.. ..


He needs to be considering other things at that age. I'm sure you know this...But he's reading cannabis mags in your room. And while I think it's great you don't smoke in front of him, he knows. Or at least he'll figure it out soon enough.

He plays baseball, basketball, and made the all star football team the last two years; he rides horses, plays video games, and loves to fish. He is a normal child who had a question about marijuana, and I did what any other parent would do.. ..I told him my opinion, but also told him to do his own research on the matter so he could come to his own conclusions. btw, I won't let him read my cannabis mags, but he knows what they are, but only because he asked. ;)


Sorry...my rant. I just care a lot about kids. I grew up in ghettos with addicted parents and felt that pain. So I'm sensitive to this....
Take care,
Hope I don't get flamed too much.:confused:

You shouldn't get flamed for this post, you have legiimate concerns and expressed them, but no worries, 420izzle. My son is a very intelligent young man, and he lives far fom the ghettos.. ..


Take care,


Junk~

[mc-blaze21]

just to add alot of people have said that they have either felt warm reading this or had a little weep. thats all gd and well and do u no why coz we are all one big family here and when somthing good happens to some one else on here we are really pleased for them. and thats coz were all tokers and most of us growers. i feel that warm feeling every time i come on here and read other peoples threads coz every one on here is like family to me we chat about any thing and every thing. GANJA WILL BRING THE WORLD TOGETHER and its as simple as that peace to every one!!

[JunkYard]

just to add alot of people have said that they have either felt warm reading this or had a little weep. thats all gd and well and do u no why coz we are all one big family here and when somthing good happens to some one else on here we are really pleased for them. and thats coz were all tokers and most of us growers. i feel that warm feeling every time i come on here and read other peoples threads coz every one on here is like family to me we chat about any thing and every thing. GANJA WILL BRING THE WORLD TOGETHER and its as simple as that peace to every one!!


:thumbsup:

[MastaChronic]

If your kids are smoking pot at 10 and doing scary shit like meth from strange kids offering drugs....then you failed as a parent.

i started when i was 6 or 7

[stinkyattic]

mc-blaze that's a nice post!
rep to you bro!

JunkYard, I was thinking about your post last night too! And the thing that really gets me is that you should be proudest that your son came to you first with a question... you are the guy who knows the answers!!! He's not asking his buddies, or the neighbor, or crazy Uncle Chester... you're the MAN!

MastaChronic... uh... good for you?

[nikweiser]

very cool. your son is going to end up owning all his teachers later in school saying buds are bad. props to him and you teaching him

[420izzle]

Yep...you've got all the bases covered man. And it sounds like your son is on the right track. I am proud to be a member of such a thriving, intelligent, cooperative and caring forum. Good on YOU! and much love!

[JunkYard]

mc-blaze that's a nice post!
rep to you bro!

JunkYard, I was thinking about your post last night too! And the thing that really gets me is that you should be proudest that your son came to you first with a question... you are the guy who knows the answers!!! He's not asking his buddies, or the neighbor, or crazy Uncle Chester... you're the MAN!

Well, that makes me feel good and is what I have wanted since he was born.. ..that he comes to me instead of crazy uncle chester, lol! :D I'm proud of him because he's so bold and understanding. He looks for answers, and doesn't settle for status quo; he searches, asks questions, and always finds his own way. I'm proud because he understands that he can come to me about anything, we talked about other stuff that night, but only after he got my response about MJ. I think that in and of itself showed him that he could trust me with other things too.

I'm proud because I have a good kid; he's very intelligent, his heart is gold, and I know he's not scared to challenge those who would lead him with bs. He's very independent, but he also knows that he doesn't have all the answers, so he actually listens when talk to him.

You know what's funny? He loves to prove me wrong! I think it's fun because he has a few times, and I can see how much he enjoys searching things out, and finding truth on his own. He doesn't settle on just my view, or others. This very fact eases my mind on so many levels. All I have to do is allow him to be his own man w/o instilling/pushing my own views down his throat. I can guide, but ultimately he's going do more reading and searching, and he'll find out for himself before he jumps, which means he won't use or do things unless he fully knows beforehand the risks. This much I have noticed about his character in the last couple years. He's a great kid, and I trust him fully.

Thanks, stinkyattick! :)


Much Love,

[2600HERTZ]

Trust is a warm and amazing thing. I would high five you and your son if I could.

Heres the next best thing. Cyfive

[mfqr]

Cool thread. Possibly one of the best I've read in a long time, on this forum, and not.

[LIP]

This put a smile on my face. It's good to know they're kids out there that know fact, and arnt scared to tell people they are wrong.

Epecially at 10.

Your sons amazing.

[five0addict]

i started when i was 6 or 7
you are one fucked up dude!
get some mental help PLZ!

[Immolation]

My son found out I smoked when I was 14.He was snooping around my room.:mad: I told him I smoked.I didn't think it would be a good idea to lie about it after he found a bong.He is almost 17 now.He says he doesn't care.My daughter is almost 19 and found out about a year ago.I don't know if I handled it well but I just knew I wasn't going to lie about what I do.

[N3D FLANDERS]

nice job on telling him to wait until he is 18
sounds like a cool kid
and his teacher sounds like EVERY "health" or "dare" teacher I have ever had

[Pink_Floyd]

Talking to a 10 year old about drugs is a bad idea in my opinion. Personally, if my child was 10, I would let him/her live in blissfull ignorance thinking that marijuana is bad for you, and eventually have a normal talk with them when they are considerably older. Kids that age don't need to know anything about marijuana, they should have toys and stuff on their minds nit drugs lmao.
Although its nice to see your son has such a rich personality. Not afraid to challenge the teachers, way the go man!

[jakez]

Just know that your son does know that you smoke. I can remember when I was 7-8 (21 now) and I knew my mom smoked. Kids know a hell of a lot more than you must think.

[smoke it]

cool. sounds like a good kid

[station]

MAD PROPS TO UR SON

[4gan2ja0]

thats sick man, good job :greenthumb:

[ValkyrieAg]

Though I agree that marijuana is wrongly portrayed in anti-drug messages and kids are lied to...you don't want to risk introducing it to him too young.

I think that a kid gets curious about sex way before he/she ever is confronted with marijuana. Sex obviously is a bigger and separate issue.

I agree with an above post that said it was better for the children to be ignorant until they reach a certain age.

If you use for medical reasons, thats good and fine. I have no problem with a 10 year old saying "my daddy uses marijuana for his condition".

But like we were taking about strange kids offering MJ then meth....yes other kids have an impact, but a parent has 10x the influence.

I remember an anti drug discussion in HS class one time about marijuana. I had only used it once or twice and wasn't really that impressed with it. A few guys in my class who were smokers weren't taking any of that 'MJ is a bad drug' bullshit. However, they are probably the dumbest guys I'll ever meet. I chose to stay away from MJ.

Now I am in college nearing a degree and I smoke like there is no tomorrow. I *never* refuse a hit. I stay until the blunt is finished even if I have to finish it myself. My point is, I think it is better for kids to be ignorant about it as long as possible.....for their own sake. I would probably cry if my child started using regularly before he even got a high school diploma.

I have more respect for a 16 year old boring no common sense bookworm that will probably never get any ass until he buys it than a 16 year old 'intelligent' full of common sense kid that can't graduate cause he is stoned all the time.

Like i said, marijuana shouldn't be introduced, it should be discovered. Discovered on your own terms just like life, sex, music, religion, and god.

[JunkYard]

If you had a child and he/she asked you about marijuna what would you do? Lie, and tell them it's a bad and dangerous drug, or would you be honest? I think we should give kids a little more credit, valkrie. Introducing them to it is one thing, but being honest when they ask is quite another.

I don't smoke medically per se, but I do smoke to relax at night when my son is at his mothers. When he's here, I spend my time with him, and we have some really good discussions. The other night when we were talking, he looked at me and said "I love talking to you, dad" I don't know about you, but that made me feel really good, and appreciated.

I have no worries about my son smoking MJ at an early age. Why? Because I sat down with him in a non-judgemental way, and discussed the issue intelligently. I didn't freak out and call it a devil drug, nor did I condone the use of it. I did however talk to him about it being used and prescribed by doctors for medicinal purposes in some places.

I told him I totaly support it being decriminalized, and that he should wait until it's legal before he ever considers trying it (If ever). He actually told me after we talked about the penalties if caught that he'll never use it just because of this, but at the same time, he wants to push for legalization like me.

We also talked about the dangers of smoking at a young age (before 18) and how it could effect his mental state. He knows it's not as danerous as cigs, or alcohol, but he also knows it can have some negative effects on him, which is another reason I'm at ease. He's very health conscious, and he doesn't do things that could harm him. He makes me go outside when I smoke a cig, and he despises alcohol. He knows these things are dangerous, as is MJ when you take into account the legal ramifications of being caught.

I'm in favor of being honest with my child, valkrie. He knows I once smoked MJ, he knows I've been to jail, he knows a lot of things about me, and that's the way it should be. Better he learn these things from me than from someone else. He will ultimately decide for himself, but I can at least be a guide and example for him.

As for being that example.. ..I NEVER smoke when he's at my home, I never drink when he's at my home, and I would never ever encourage him to break the law. I walk in a manner worthy of his admiration, and as far as he's concerned, I am a law abiding citizen just trying to make a difference in the live's of those who would benefit from MJ being legal. To him, I am an activist, and someone he can look up to. My cannabis mags are simple research, and if I didn't whole heartedly believe in the benefits of cannabis, I would have done what you'd do, and keep the facts from him, lie, and allow him to stay ignorant.

MJ is not just a recreational drug to get high on, but a valid, and much needed medication. I use it to relax so I can sleep at night. I've suffered from insomnia for years, and when I don't get my sleep I get quite mental, lol! You don't want to be around me when I haven't slept for a day or two.. ..I'm a beast, arrogant and on a full blown warpath w/o my sleep. Worse than being on a whiskey drunk even.. ..

As for the kids who smoke at an early age. (14 -17) Do you honestly believe that none of them do well in school? Please, that is such an unfair assesment on your part. Many, if not most make excellent marks in school and further their studies at a university of some sort. I'd say there are more highschool 'dropouts' who don't smoke weed than do. I'd like to see some statistics on this just to cast down these kind of assumptions.

As for the dumb remark about those kids who stood for what they believed in, you should be ashamed. At least they had the courage to go against the grain. They may have been dumb.. ..I don't know but who are you to call it like that? You're sitting here suggesting to let our kids live in ignorance, and to let them "discover" drugs on their own. That's complete nonsense!

w/o being properly educated on drugs who knows what they'll get into. Meth? Heroin? Cocain? Let other people teach them then you risk them being fed false information, and they'll see straight through it.

You seem to under estimate the power of peer pressure and lack of parental influence, you got to lay a foundation, and a trust relationship early on as a parent, or you'll lose their respect, and they'll never listen to you. They will give you a big FUCK YOU and do what they want anyway. I say teach them when they ask, an be as honest as you can be. If they don't ask, then maybe you should consider being a little more open minded around them, so they feel thay can at least talk to you about these delicate issues w/o fear of being ridiculed. I'm honest with my kid, and I expect him to be honest with me. Trust is a wonderful thing when appropriately utilized....


Junk~

[marvelous22]

Ha that shit is great! Spark him up wene he turns 16 thats a good age to try it.

[stinkyattic]

I would let him/her live in blissfull ignorance thinking that marijuana is bad for you, and eventually have a normal talk with them when they are considerably older. Kids that age don't need to know anything about marijuana, they should have toys and stuff on their minds nit drugs lmao.
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In an ideal world maybe... but this world is full of references to drugs of all sorts and it is best that a child learn from a parent first, and then see the references differently, than just finidng out along the way, and looking at the PARENT'S opinion differently...they TOTALLY should have toys on their minds!!!
I mean, when we see kids on here bragging that they were smoking at 7, and other kids trying to grow in mom's house at 14, and then remember that kid juicyfruit who had in his SIG for God's sake that he was 14 and a list of all the drugs he had tried :eek: and the ones he still WANTED to try, that included some fucked up shit, I'll bet his parents never talked to him honestly about drugs!
I guess it's the same about the birds and the bees... wait until they are 16, and guess what? It's too late, your kid has already gotten some other kid pregnant.

[afghooey]

You have a lucky kid, Junkyard. I don't doubt that he'll respect you more in the long run for being open with him about subjects like this.

I had some guidance from an older cousin of mine about weed and other drugs when I was about your son's age (maybe a little older), and I have to say if I hadn't had any sort of guidance outside of D.A.R.E. (ha ha), I quite possibly would have gone on to do harder drugs than weed, just out of the same curiosity that got me to try marijuana (IMO, the frame of mind comes before the drug, and the gateway theory is a crock). Thanks to having a dependable mentor and places like Erowid, I've been able to educate myself and make responsible decisions about what I put into my body.

I totally agree with you that parents should be honest with their kids, and not brush them off or lie to them to keep them from trying pot, or anything for that matter. Even if you lie to your child with 100% good intentions, when they find out (and chances are they will) they'll probably lose a considerable amount of respect for you, and possibly do worse things just to spite you, or to find out by experimentation whether they've been lied to about other things.

Even if the truth is fucked up, honesty is the best policy. Because a fucked-up truth, when concealed, is an even MORE fucked up lie.

Like if your kid is adopted. I think it'd be better to tell them early on, as screwed up as it might be for a kid to deal with, than stow it as some ugly secret to be possibly revealed later on in adolesence (just when a kid really needs more identity issues to deal with).

Candor > Deceit, by far. When it comes to everyone, really, but ESPECIALLY when it comes to kids.

[PatrickHenry]

I'm in my 20s and just found out my dad smokes. He has really bad back pain and it helps him get through it. I just never realized he used it til I told him that I did. After that he told me everything, including the strains they smoked and everything. He was talking about Alcupulco Gold. HAHA Nothing like hearing your dad say "sinsemilla" for the first time.

[stinkyattic]

Nothing like hearing your dad say "sinsemilla" for the first time.
lol I'm still waiting for my stepfather to 'fess up... 20 years later... the guy used to be a park ranger, ski patroller, general outdoor geeky guy... I've met his ole skiin' buddies... please... :D

[JunkYard]

You have a lucky kid, Junkyard. I don't doubt that he'll respect you more in the long run for being open with him about subjects like this.

Thanks, afghooey. I remember the time I came to my dad about drugs, and you know what he told me?
He said, "If you ever get involved with drugs, I'll beat you!" That's it, no info, no talk.. ..just a threat of violence, lol! You know what I did? I gave him a big FUCK YOU and tried everything I could get my hands on just for spite. I ended up in jail a few times, and developed a bad powder addiction.

I regret it now because he (My dad) has disowned me, AND his grandson, but you learn from your mistakes, and from the mistakes of others. I swore to myself that I'd never be like my father, and that Id be a guide instead of a power tripping over zealous uninformed POS like my dad was.

My son called him the other day, and my dad wouldn't even talk to him. It was Christmas for Gods sake, and my dad, because of me wouldn't even allow my son the pleasure of wishing him a merry christmas.

Sad stuff, man!


I had some guidance from an older cousin of mine about weed and other drugs when I was about your son's age (maybe a little older), and I have to say if I hadn't had any sort of guidance outside of D.A.R.E. (ha ha), I quite possibly would have gone on to do harder drugs than weed, just out of the same curiosity that got me to try marijuana (IMO, the frame of mind comes before the drug, and the gateway theory is a crock). Thanks to having a dependable mentor and places like Erowid, I've been able to educate myself and make responsible decisions about what I put into my body.

I had absoluely no guidence whatsoever, and you see what I did, lo! I think it's important to be a teacher, and lead instead allowing kids to simply discover. Children need guidence pure and simple, they need someone open minded and honest, too. I worked with troubled kids for several years, and learned a great deal during this time. We had atleast one 3 hour class every week where they would teach us to utilize trust, and compassion, and tolerance.

These kids were beaten by their parents, and abused in ways you couldn't imagine. It would take years sometimes just to get a trust relationship established with them, and when they finally came to grips with reality, started trusting adults again, we'd ship them off to go live on their own, or in some foster home with complete strangers. I loved that job, but I couldn't handle it when these kids were shipped off somewhere else. It broke my heart, ghooey! I ended up quiting the job, and I started driving a cab, lol!

The point I'm trying to make, is it wasn't until my later years that I myself was guided, and that I learned about developing trust foundations. Trust is an amazing thing when utilized appropriatly. I think parents should consider this before their children get old enough to ask the hard questions.


I totally agree with you that parents should be honest with their kids, and not brush them off or lie to them to keep them from trying pot, or anything for that matter. Even if you lie to your child with 100% good intentions, when they find out (and chances are they will) they'll probably lose a considerable amount of respect for you, and possibly do worse things just to spite you, or to find out by experimentation whether they've been lied to about other things.


^^You nailed it afghooey!^^ Even so, I'm not ready to let my kid know that I smoke MJ. When he's older, after he's done his fair share of research, and is able to keep things quite, Ill confess, but until then, it's hush hush. :cool:


Junk~

[PatrickHenry]

lol I'm still waiting for my stepfather to 'fess up... 20 years later... the guy used to be a park ranger, ski patroller, general outdoor geeky guy... I've met his ole skiin' buddies... please... :D

You should ask. Old stoner stories are the best.

[ValkyrieAg]

Well kids might be smarter than we give them credit for, they are just little people after all, but they don't have the experience.

And I never said that kids that smoke pot never make it to college.....who do you think I smoke with? :jointsmile: I am just saying that it happens all too often.

Yes those guys in high school were notorious idiots and quite the example. When i say discover, I don't mean like they don't know what they are doing. I mean they experience it on their own terms. I 'discovered' it on my own, I was ignorant but I tried it and years later (now) i have picked it up without looking back. I *NOW* understand how it can be beneficial and enjoyable for recreational uses and medcinal purposes. Why? Because I am old enough to grasp the concept. If you handed me a 'marijuana joint' when I was 10 years old, I would probably think you were the devil himself. Keep marijuana out of childrens lives. It has no place there. When they are ready, you can talk to kids/teens about it and they will have a better grasp of what you are telling them.

Also, I don't understand how you can teach a child about the legality of marijuana when it is something they have never experienced. How can a 10 year old become an advocate for the legalization of marijuana?

[JunkYard]

Well kids might be smarter than we give them credit for, they are just little people after all, but they don't have the experience.

And I never said that kids that smoke pot never make it to college.....who do you think I smoke with? :jointsmile: I am just saying that it happens all too often.

Yes those guys in high school were notorious idiots and quite the example. When i say discover, I don't mean like they don't know what they are doing. I mean they experience it on their own terms. I 'discovered' it on my own, I was ignorant but I tried it and years later (now) i have picked it up without looking back. I *NOW* understand how it can be beneficial and enjoyable for recreational uses and medcinal purposes. Why? Because I am old enough to grasp the concept. If you handed me a 'marijuana joint' when I was 10 years old, I would probably think you were the devil himself. Keep marijuana out of childrens lives. It has no place there. When they are ready, you can talk to kids/teens about it and they will have a better grasp of what you are telling them.

Also, I don't understand how you can teach a child about the legality of marijuana when it is something they have never experienced. How can a 10 year old become an advocate for the legalization of marijuana?


I agree that handing a joint to a ten year old, or even a 16-17 year old is irresponsible. I'd never do that, but I can teach him about it to the best of my ability. Just like when the schools bring in speakers against it; kids learn quick, and what they learn at a young age tends to stick. I'll be the one teaching my child, and that's the way it should be.

As for him being an activist at age 10.. ..He can't and I don't want him to be. I suggested he do research until he's old enough to actually do something beneficaial towards the cause. also, the legal issues are quite easy to grasp at his age. Marijuana is illegal and shouldn't be used as far as he's concerned, but he knows that in some areas of the country, Dr.s are prescribing it as legitimate medication. What hard to grasp about that, val?

Like I said, kids deserve more credit than they are given.. ..


Junk~

[mc-blaze21]

kids do deserve much more cred than we give them. they might be the little people but hell can they put some of us to shame lol. its all gd junkyard u just keep doing what your doing man ur an amazing parent from what ive read so far and u should'nt change a thing about you and your son's relationship. you are both so lucky to have each other i bet each day u spend with him is a totally new experiance especially at that age. ne way gd job man nuff respect to you and your son take care all peace!

thank you for the comment on the other page stinkyattic well nice of you thank you! peace

[ValkyrieAg]

I can teach him about it to the best of my ability. Just like when the schools bring in speakers against it; kids learn quick, and what they learn at a young age tends to stick. I'll be the one teaching my child, and that's the way it should be.

the legal issues are quite easy to grasp at his age. Marijuana is illegal and shouldn't be used as far as he's concerned, but he knows that in some areas of the country, Dr.s are prescribing it as legitimate medication. What hard to grasp about that, val?


So you are teaching your 10 year old child to the best of your ability that smoking Marijuana is OK? You might as well hand him a joint. If you are against young people smoking MJ, think about this. When do you think he will first start smoking MJ? Honestly, do you think he will wait until he is 17? 18?

A 10 year old cannot fully grasp a 'legal issue'. He might know that doctors are prescribing it as a legitimate medication, yeah, everyone knows that whether they are pro or anti-MJ. There is nothing difficult to grasp about that. But how can he *understand* the 'reason' why it is being medically prescribed without ever trying it?

Personally, if I saw a random 10 year old child advocating marijuana (for any reason) because his daddy told him so, I would think his parents to be irresponsible. But you can parent anyway you want. Both my parents are teachers (ret.) with masters (and have been state recognized) and have *alot* of years of experience with 8-12year olds. I know they have smoked in their life, so they aren't Pot Nazis. But if they heard that someone would actually advocate marijuana to their 10 year old son, they would be disappointed.

Though I am but in my early 20s, I suppose I come from the old school. But like I said, you can parent how ever you want. I respectfully but completely disagree with your logic.:jointsmile:

[JunkYard]

So you are teaching your 10 year old child to the best of your ability that smoking Marijuana is OK? You might as well hand him a joint. If you are against young people smoking MJ, think about this. When do you think he will first start smoking MJ? Honestly, do you think he will wait until he is 17? 18?

A 10 year old cannot fully grasp a 'legal issue'. He might know that doctors are prescribing it as a legitimate medication, yeah, everyone knows that whether they are pro or anti-MJ. There is nothing difficult to grasp about that. But how can he *understand* the 'reason' why it is being medically prescribed without ever trying it?

Personally, if I saw a random 10 year old child advocating marijuana (for any reason) because his daddy told him so, I would think his parents to be irresponsible. But you can parent anyway you want. Both my parents are teachers (ret.) with masters (and have been state recognized) and have *alot* of years of experience with 8-12year olds. I know they have smoked in their life, so they aren't Pot Nazis. But if they heard that someone would actually advocate marijuana to their 10 year old son, they would be disappointed.

Though I am but in my early 20s, I suppose I come from the old school. But like I said, you can parent how ever you want. I respectfully but completely disagree with your logic.:jointsmile:


That's cool, man! Im certainly not a teacher, but I've worked with kids most my adult life, and I've found that it helps to understand what makes them tick. I've had many hours class time myself, along with many more hands on, so I'll trust what I've learned over a twenty year old who had teachers as parents. My mother was a teacher, too, btw.

Also, I never said MJ was o.k for him to use, and I NEVER told him to do/say anything. I said it's illegal and should be avoided, but I also gave the other side when he asked, which is only fair. And no, my child will not smoke at an early age, he was curious after they talked about it in school, (Aren't all kids?) and I broke it down for him in simple "realistic" and honest terms. I would expect the same from any parant, and it has nothing to do with logic; it has to do with honesty, trust and simply being realistic.

If you think MJ is such a bad substance, then why do you smoke, man? I want it legalized because it certainly should be, and I treat with a little less urgency than alcohol. Do you think it wrong to talk to kids about alcohol, too? They gotta learn from somewere, man. You do your thing, and I'll do mine, and if my approach fails, then I'll be the first to admit it, but I have no worries. I know my son, and he's a very intelligent kid. I trust him, and he trusts me.


Btw, MJ should be treated as any other prescription medication. What's the difference? All are illegal w/o a script.. ..Again, what's so hard to understand, other than there being bogus federal laws against its use? The subject might be delicate, but it's not difficult by a long shot!


Junk~

[ValkyrieAg]

If you think MJ is such a bad substance, then why do you smoke, man? I want it legalized because it certainly should be, and I treat with a little less urgency than alcohol. Do you think it wrong to talk to kids about alcohol, too? They gotta learn from somewere, man. You do your thing, and I'll do mine, and if my approach fails, then I'll be the first to admit it, but I have no worries. I know my son, and he's a very intelligent kid. I trust him, and he trusts me.


Btw, MJ should be treated as any other prescription medication. What's the difference? All are illegal w/o a script.. ..Again, what's so hard to understand, other than there being bogus federal laws against its use? The subject might be delicate, but it's not difficult by a long shot!


Junk~


Well I do agree with you and I respect that you have worked with children before. Honestly, I can't handle kids of that age for very long...so it goes without saying, take whatever I say with a grain of salt.

I don't think MJ is bad, not near as destructive as alcohol. (please note my drunk stories). I haven't had to talk to a police officer in the past 3 years that I have been smoking. It actually keeps me out of trouble. However, I do consider it destructive to someone who is just coming of age and still developing mentally and emotionally. I do feel that alcohol comes into play much earlier on than marijuana does. I used to drive 15 miles on friday nights (small town texas football) to buy beer when I was in high school. Alot of my party hard friends have nearly killed themselves (some even more than once) drinking and driving (which i do my fair share of).

But seriously, marijuana and drinking is a part of high school. Every kid will go through it and experience whatever they end up experiencing. Whether that experience will affect you negatively or positively is another thing. Some kids just take a nosedive. But you sound intelligent enough to not let it become a problem. My arguement MOSTLY is just because I am the only one who is 'gently' opposing you. Whether whoever is right, it is always good to hear it from a different perspective. The reason I view things the way I do, is solely because of my own life. I did alot of stupid things that could have landed me in a world of hurt...whether it be prison (look for a new thread) or near death by stupidity. I just happened to get through unscathed...but lots of kids don't. At the same time, being who I am and how i am, I have accidentally 'overloaded' people...whether it be smoking marijuana, cussin like a fuckin' sailor, taking shots and overall just being my crude self. Some people just can't manage with foreign substances.

I am definately no angel and don't believe I am the Answer to all that is bad. I smoke because I enjoy it. Will i smoke forever? maybe. maybe not. Is my life technically more productive now? No. But it is a tradeoff I am willing to make. And yes, Legalize it!