>>--Kb420Kb's Grow Log--<<

[Kb420Kb]

Ok here is my first grow log.. I had a like 2 more before but they were jokes because I had no idea what I was doing and now I know exactly what im doing. I will update the forum every 1-3 days. If you have any tips for me feel free to give me some :rastasmoke:

Here are some pictures:


Pictures 1, 2, 3: Plant 1 Day 4.

Pictures 4, 5: Plant 2 Day 2.

[TheGreenFog]

Try the 'MACRO' setting on your camera. It is a picture of a flower. :)


Congrats on having a plan. Give us some more info, please.



The Fog :rastasmoke:

[Kb420Kb]

k thanks for the camera tip :) but i don think i have it on mine =\

[Spills]

I wouldn't use a clear container if I were you. It lets in light to the roots which is bad.

[Kb420Kb]

all i have is an off button a play button a camera button a camera with a M next to it a picture of a face an auto button and a video button =\

[Kb420Kb]

Ok ill move the plant to a darker container quick.

[Kb420Kb]

I'll be adding 1 more plant after it germinates. I have moved the plants into a cup and put holes on the bottom of the cups so water can drain out. Umm.. I'll put pics up tomorrow.

[JackdaWack]

u better start thinking ahead, this is a grow log u shoul dbe includidng everything you plan on and are currently doing. This way we can help u before you need help.. get it? kinda like the cups but only becuase of pictures can we see that. start posting your plans for the grow, lights, nutes, everything.

[Kb420Kb]

Ok.. thanks

first of all i dont know what nutes are and what lst is =\ can someone help me with this so I can know when to do what? and im going to get some florocent lights soon within 1-2 days. Thanks for all the help.

[JackdaWack]

i can already see them stretching

[Kb420Kb]

A little =\ i put the light closer so they dont stretch.. can you tell me what this nute and lst is?

[Kb420Kb]

brb ima go around my neiborhood and steal some pots from people xD

[Kb420Kb]

Ok so I took your advice and put them in a darker container. I put holes on the bottom of the cups and put another light in there and i dont know if its good but it produces 1175 Lumens.. Is that good? Its about 2 Inches above the plants. I dont know if you can see but plant 1 is producing another set of leaves.. Here are some more pictures.


Picture 1, 2, 3: Plant 1 At 6 Days Old.
Picture 4: Plant 2 At 4 Days Old.
Picture 5: Plant 1 And 2 Together.

[Chronic Chrissy]

lst is lowstress training, such as tieing down your plants to shape them, reduce height, or expose branches. Nutes are nutrients. Before you start playing with those pick up a pH tester and get the pH of your water under control, because if you don't have the right pH your plant won't be able to absorb the nutes. Also DON'T OVERWATER! Wait till your soil is just a tad bit damp an inch into the soil, just poke your finger in, then rewater. Once you figure that out work on the next improvment. Good luck.

[Kb420Kb]

Thanks alot for the info. Keep me updated when I need help xD

[Chronic Chrissy]

Was it my plants you were complimenting on the other board? Oh and if you have any other qustions just ask, I'll try and help. Where are you putting your plants? What's the temp and ventilation like?

[Kb420Kb]

Ok here's pictures of my hidden grow room.. It's been working good so far.
The light im using produces 1170 Lumens, Is that good?

Under the sheet is where my grow room is.

[Kb420Kb]

Here's some updated pictures... :rastasmoke:

[kindprincess]

get that incandecent bulb outta there, ASAP!!! you'll have heat probs for sure, plus, that's not near enough light. go to wally world or lowes and get some cfl's (at least 23w, one per plant for now) or, for 20$ you can get a double 48" flourecent fixture and two ge daylight tubes... ideal for veg.

do this quick, babe...

kp

[Kb420Kb]

thanks so much

[Kb420Kb]

Ok i put a 400w HID light in... ill put update pictures tomorrow.



Smoke everyday

[invision]

dude 400watts is like a portable oven, make sure before you set up this light you have something to vent it out, and not that cheese fan on your desk you will need a real fan (cage/vortex).

other than that i would just read read read and get to learn plant problems more than anything because whatever problems happen you will know how to fix it.

[Kb420Kb]

Ok thanks.. what watt do you suggest? I heard people say in the 20's =\ I guess I bought the wrong bulb =\ It is pretty hot in there. Tell me the kinda bulb to buy and ill go buy it tomorrow because the roads are icy and stuff.. Ill go back to my other bulb until tomorrow. Thanks.

[Kb420Kb]

Ok here are my update pictures.

Picture 1,2 : plant 1 Day 6 I think

Picture 3 : plant 2 day 4 i think

Picture 4 : both plant 1 and 2

[Kb420Kb]

Im high and im eating a hamburger.. its really good... -.- but I just stopped by to see if you guys posted anything but you dident :( you gotta help me keep my thread alive. Thanks guys...


Kb

[Kb420Kb]

Ok I tried a new method to see if this would help the cooling in the room because i cant go get a light now =\ i dont have any money for a while.. till next month. but this light is still cool.. the heat is like 79 Degrees in the room. What i did was put a a bucket kinda thing in there and put cold water in it and put my plants in it. and it evaporates and keeps the room cool. =\ It feels good in there. I almost fell asleep xD ok here are some pictures.

[Kb420Kb]

They grew about a cm or 2 within 8 hours =\ here is a picture of them both ...

[Grape Ape]

Looking good, your going to eventually put them in a stable place with better lighting right?

[Kb420Kb]

Of course..
I just need to know when so I can buy the stuff. I have about another foot of space left. And im going to buy a better light soon. Ima try and get my mom to buy it and say its for my room or something. And that should be good until I build a box.

Thanks



Kb

[Chronic Chrissy]

First off growing in your parents place is not cool man. Second go to indoor growing and read up on cfls or compact flourescent lights. Your solution might be in there since they are cool and they have a better light spectrum. Theother thing is that height isn't as good as you think it is you want your plant to be short and bushy with as little distance between nodes as possible. Plants will stretch towards the light when they aren't recieving enough, and the end result is a tall lanky plant with small buds. I hate to say it but I don't think you will make it through flowering with out being busted by your parents or running into major space problems. But I do wish yu the best of luck and will keep popping in.;)

[Kindbud]

Yea chrissy that could be an issue, but it's very possible to harvest an oz ,stealth grow to the max.Like kind princess said, that incandescant light is doing nothing to the plants at all. kb the 20 watts youre talkin about are compact cfls. The spiral shaped bulbs u see at lowes/home depot ? 23 watt compacts is what u want ,go get a little table lamp and a bulb right when you read this bro,lamp for 15 bulb for less than 5. Good luck keep us updated.

[Kb420Kb]

ok thanks so much chrissy but I dont like the idea of growing in my parents house either I think its rude to grow in my parents house but its icy outside and I cant put it outside.. But my parents never come in my room and YES I will get a new light really really soon so that my plants will be cool and get enough light. Right now what i thought was normal was when they grow torwards the light... =\ I dident know they werent getting enough light. :( so i turn them around everyday so there not crooked. should i just leave them alone and dont switch them around everyday? does that stress them? o yah.. Ok ya I do want a small bushy plant cause i dont want a like 3 foot plant in my room -.- I wouldent want that outdoors either.. I'd rather grow about 3-4 plants at a time and have them short and bushy. I have 5 seeds germinating right now that im planning on trying to grow outside but i doubt that'll work out because its still january and winter isint over yet =\ So i might just have to deal with these also in a different room until they can go out at the end of february.. Im going to LST the plants so there short and try and buy some NUTES and plant food. O ya.. I cant post pictures today because I ran out of batteries :( But i'll put some up as soon as I can so you guys can give me info on when to move them to bigger pots and if there healthy or not.


Thanks alot guys :)


Kb

[TheGreenFog]

Growing in ANYONE's house without their permission is not cool. Especially if you go posting it on a website and include your picture. You are putting your parents livelihoods at risk...that's just not cool. Wait until the spring and go guerilla stylie.

In the mean time, you will have LOTS of time to read up on growing properly.

Grow some veggies, man. Just try to keep them stealth, and then when you DO get busted by your parents (which you probably will), they will just find you growing tomatoes and basil and be shocked and not know what to say. That's hilarious...plus it gives you practice growing things. :thumbsup:

Plus, I think you're wasting your time because I can already tell that those plants are both male. I'd throw them out now. :p


This is what your plants look like under that fan (see below).



Be cool. RastafarI


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[Kb420Kb]

hahah that pic is funny ya bro i think ima get rid of them and just do what you said.. you've given me alot of advice. Grow veggies and stuff and read alot about growing bud. and then when the end of february - 1st of april (when i feel ready) i will grow bud outside in the woods. I'll probably grow about 6 plants xD i'll just let them get as tall as they want and spread the plants around the woods and not just keep them in 1 place.
I'll hang dry the buds in my storage or outside in the woods -.- but ya i think ima grow veggies for a bit so I can get an excuss to go get lights and fertilzer and all the goodies for when i grow bud xD

thanks so much everyone.

PS. I think ima get growing atleast 1 plant. and how can you tell there male -.- there only like 8 days old
haha.



Kb

[Kb420Kb]

O ya and the leaning of the plants isint from the fan. The fan is on low and it barely moves the plants and umm.. there leaning cause they need more light :(

[Chronic Chrissy]

rotating your plants is something you should do daily so they grow strait. I think the veggie idea is a good one especially because when you do get busted your parents will think you are some freak with a hidden sissy green thumb and they will probably try to encourage you to grow stuff and help you out. I have tons of house plants in my house so when I go out wih my mom I can drop a hint about my poor corn tree and get some new stuff, lol.

[Kb420Kb]

lol thats a good idea! O ya! I got some pictures just right now. On my bigger plant the leaves are starting to curl.. That means it's trying to keep cool right? So.. think i should put some ice cubes in it? mabey like 1 or 2? I already watered it. It's just that freaking light bulb is so hot. Ok here are the pictures.

[Kb420Kb]

See in picture 1 the 2 leaves are curling?

O ya I got some soil from this lady next door. She is a huge gardening fan type of person. And it has green little balls in it and when you squeeze them they pop? What is that? Here is a picture.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I can't tell from your pics wether your grow is in the drawer or behind the desk. Eiter way you have to cool it down. That means getting the hot air out and fresh air in. If you insist on using the bulb that you are you have to move it away from the plants so you don't burn them. put your hand right above them, if it is warm the you have to move it up more, because as I just learnt the twisted leaves are trying to cool off.

[Kb420Kb]

People tell me to keep the light about 2 inches away from the plants because they stretch =\ but i'll try what you just told me and see what the results are. Thanks alot Chronic Chrissy for helping me out alot :rastasmoke:

[Kb420Kb]

Hey chrissy here is a pic of my room its really tiny it only as about 2 1/2 ft. height and about a little less then 2 ft width and about 1 1/2 foot depth. It's accually under a t.v dinner table and my computer is on top of it with a sheet covering the sides so no one can see inside xD great hiding spot but not good for ventilation.. I have a window next to it though i can run some tubes through it or something.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I have an idea if it isin a corner like I think it is. OK bear with me. The back wall of your grow box(which I assume is facing the corner leaving a triangle of empty space behind it) Take that back wall off and put the fan right in the corner. It will suck the air down the empty space and direct it into the box. The only thing is that you will have light shooting up out of the corner. It should help a little. It would help more if you could open the side coming out towards the room, even a 4" hole would allow for the air to flow out a little better. The only othe tip I can give yu is that light can't bent so if you get your hands on some flexible dryer tubing and bend it 90 degrees light will not escape but air can travel through, but it does restrict airflow. I gotta update my log though I'll pop in later.

[Kb420Kb]

Ok I got a new 23w cfl light bulb from my girlfriend xD she's cool... But umm.. I put the bulb in and now the room is much cooler and its really bright :) Anyways here are some pictures.

[kdspecial]

Try and grab another one and your plants will thank you for it. Make sure that fan isn't blowing too too hard on those little plants.

Your on your way..

kd

[Chronic Chrissy]

Congradulations on your very first upgrade. Don't stop at one bulb, throw as many of those suckers in there as you can. Try aiming your fan up so it blows the air above the plants. that will keep the air moving and that's really all you need.

[Kb420Kb]

alright cool.. thanks guys. I have another bulb but it was from my fish tank and its a long one and its 10watts -.- does it matter though? lol its just extra light. I need to get another lamp thing. =\ I'll try

thanks guys.


Kb

[Kb420Kb]

I got update pictures for today. Both plants started growing 4 more leaves.. And plant 1's leaves that were curled are starting to go away :) Here are some pictures.

Picture 1 : Plant 1

Picture 2 : Plant 2

Picture 3 : Both Plants

[Kb420Kb]

HAHA here's the story.. Ok, I was growing before this and my mom found my plants and threw them away and then today she went and bought a plant (pic below) and said.. "Want to grow something? Grow this.)

[Chronic Chrissy]

Awsome! Now you can con growing shit out of her!

[Chronic Chrissy]

" Light Cycles

The dark cycle is very inportant to palnts. Respiration(this is when plants are making energy from sugar to oxygen) Continues in dark but at a much slower pace, almost independent of available oxygen because the leaves are not making oxygen in the dark.

In the dark there is a shift from leaf production to root production as the leaves transfer excess energy down to the branches and roots. Therefore, some dark time allows for better root structures. The "Experimental Root Growth 10 Days After Cutting" graph on page 33 shows that giving plants a 24-hour light cycle is not the way to supercharge growth"

This is from "How to supercharge your garden" With the graph on page 33 this follows...

"Light period for cuttings

PLants have a free running internal bio-rhythm of 21-27 hours. In this rhythm, they need dark time. Cuttings have a built in daily rhythm that they inherit from their parent. Cuttings will root better with a 6 hours to 8 hourdark period because this is the main time when leaves and the stems transfer energy down to the root zone for storage and growth."

The chart has hours of light per day on the bottom, and length of roots in millimeters.
-@ 4hours of light the roots after ten days were only 22mm long
-@ 8 hours of light after 10 days the roots were 25 mm long
-@12 hours of light we shoot up to 40mm long
-@16 hours it peaks at 50mm
-@20 hours it drops down to 37mm
-@ 24 hours it drops down to 29mm

There is also a shitload of info regauring root to yeild ratio vs veg to yeild ratio, and draws the conclusion that at the end of the experiements the root to yeild ratio was higher



I figured this could be useful to you.

[Kb420Kb]

OK so looking at my plants what should the light cycle be? I've been leaving the light on for 24 hours a day =\

[Chronic Chrissy]

Don't stress out, and for godsake don't switch all at once. Right now before you change it at all figure out exactly when you want your light on for the 16 hours. The give it an hour of dark for a few days(say 3), then and another hour, then 3 days later another hour. You want to make the transistion as stressless as possible because stress can make your plants turn into hermaphrodites or males. My lastattempted grow I couldn't get thetemp undercontrol and all 10 of my plants turnedinto males.

There are people here who do use 24/0 for the whole veg cycle, I'm justgiving you whatI got.

Next tip, go to the dollar store and pick up any thermometer you can and see ifyou can find shiny wraping paper on sale, you can use the backside like mylar and waste less light.

[invision]

dont use 24hrs of light, i used this method to see what would happen and all it did was make my electric more expensive, unless your conditions are 100% perfect at all times never use 24hrs of light.

instead get a timer, 5 bucks at walmart, set it to 18 on 6 off and leave it there until they/you are ready to flower, then you can move it to 12hrs on 12hrs off and this triggers flower hormones to the plants.

this still takes a week to 3 weeks to find out the sex of the plants, i am right now 7 days into flower and was able to sex 4 out of 7 plants with 3 being females using the 18/6 lighting.

[Kb420Kb]

ok thanks

[Kb420Kb]

Ok so today I went to wal-mart and bought a bunch of stuff for my plants and im growing cactus and hot peppers xD Here is a picture of the stuff I bought. My cousin went to buy my glass thermometer so I can measure the heat and stuff in my room.

[Chronic Chrissy]

What are the little bottles? pH testers I hope, if so Your getting somewhere now.

[Kb420Kb]

yep xD it's a pH tester, and the light bulbs are 26 watts =\ i couldent find the 23 watts so i got the closest thing to it. I got 3 ivy's and 3 of some plant that my mom had and like... 8 pepper plants growing and 4 cactus plants growing.

PS. My mom was telling my to germinate my seeds like i was with my marijuana seeds haha xD i was like.. wtf.. she dident even care -.-
ok.. well i'll put some update pictures up here pretty soon when my parents go to sleep. O ya.. im putting the plants in bigger pots, 6" pots.



Kb

[Kb420Kb]

Should I make a light reflector? out of like.. foil and cardboard until I go back to wal-mart and buy some real reflectors.

[Chronic Chrissy]

lol steal a street sign. Foil isn't so great as a reflector. Do a search and you should find a fewposts on what material is xx% reflective.

[Kb420Kb]

Ok. Thanks so much chrissy your being such a big help to me :) your like my friend xD And umm.. I'll keep your forum updated sorry I havent been doing that. =\ I'm really lazy but since your such a big help I will help you out :)



Kb

[kindprincess]

^^ don't steal, lol, tape white paper to a card board box, and use that. or get inventive and make something out of whatever. white spray paint is good stuff.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I was joking about the stealing, it's not cool. I bought Visqueen(white on one side black on the other 85% reflective and lightproof) 10' wide for 1$ a foot, or buy shiny christmas wrapping paper on sale and use the shiny side. Hey KB just curious why my thread and pics are in your sig, you just trying to spread the Chrissyness(nothin wrong with that) or what?

[Kb420Kb]

Ya :) -.- my thread link isint on there with yours -.- i need to put that lol.. Ya I just want people to see how your plants are doing and have a little chat with you :) I love when people post new comments on my plants. I just love to read what people have to say and read all the tips so I can learn alot more about growing. It makes me so happy when people post on my thread! xD ok well umm... ima go fix my sig xD

[Chronic Chrissy]

NNNNOOOOOO Don't I like people visiting my thread too, You can advertise for me, I'm kinda honored actually.

[Kb420Kb]

My parents wont go to sleep till about another hour so i'll take pictures then. =\ I need to fix my light set up.. the plants are like this.. (Try to figure this out haha )


.................................................. ...............O
Plants are like this O O and my lights are like this O

I want my lights to be right on top of my plants and not in the middle..

and um.. are two 26w cfls good? or is it to much? I couldent find the 23w's =\



Kb

[Kb420Kb]

hahha cool.. your my online friend chrissy xD O ya.. my plants are doing good.. my older plants (by 2 days) is looking kinda odd though =\ its leaning and one leaf is standing straight up and umm..it looks kinda odd.. i'll take a bunch of pictures of it later. It seems as if the older plants is going to be a male and the younger one is going to be female =\

Help me come up with names for them xD like Uni-sex names because I dont know the sex yet =\

[Kb420Kb]

What nutrients should I buy? where could I get them from?

[kindprincess]

sorry kb, but i have to say that i cannot condone, nor can i support you without parental consent. i'm sorry, you seem like a nice guy, but i don't support those who grow in other's property.

please stop your op, grow some legal plants for a month or two, then grow outdoors. when you have a place of your own, or your parents are down with you growing, or you have a garden patch in the woods somewhere, i'd be more than happy to help you out.

until then, good luck...and i pray you don't get caught, and that your parents won't have to take a state mandated vacation...

kp

[Chronic Chrissy]

Not the best idea to look at me for nutrient information, this I'm just learning about.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I agreewith KP but I'll still help you out. Why not get some veggies and practise with that, Your mom would even help you out then come summer you'll be prepared. Put yourself in your parents shoes, what if you got busted for your kid?(hypothetically and in the future)

[kindprincess]

hey, if you go legit, i'm in, i just can't feel good about the current sitch, ya know?

[Kb420Kb]

I do have veggies though.. I have 3 Ivy's 3 of some plant my mom has and like.. 14 Pepper plants and 4 Cactus I just planted today.. My mom helps me with that but I need nutrients =\ I want my plants to be healthy.. I'm going to go to College for growing in 2 years. It's what i've been wanting to do for a while and since i'm a pot head i might as well grow pot. soo... And ya my mom found my plants before and threw those away and I grew more but the way she sounded was like.. she dident care.. she said to me today.. "Why dont you let your seeds grow roots in a paper towel like you did with your pot seeds" hahah.. that cracked me up.. And she dosent care if i smoke pot so if she finds them again she will get kinda mad but she wont make me get rid of them i'll just tell her its a male and it cant produce thc and get me high and that im going to kill the plant and that im just doing it for practice for when i move out.. she dosent know the difference. She said I can grow when i move out but thats not for another 2-4 years =\ and I want my own pot lol.. but umm.. thanks for all the help though.. Kp you can atleast help me with my veggies right? =\ I'll keep you updated when they sprout and stuff.

Thanks



Kb

[Kb420Kb]

But I dont understand i've never gotten in trouble with the law and why would a cop come to my house randomly and search my house for pot? And its well hidden and only my cousin knows and he smokes with me alot and he will never tell on me. And yes I do feel guilty about this but she dosent really care anymore. =\

[kindprincess]

i'll help with the veggies ;) but i think that if you ask your mom if you can grow a plant or three for first hand info for a school project, she may say ok, and help you keep it on the down; or just be honest and tell her that you don't want to support drug dealers...

[kindprincess]

i'm not saying they won't, but think of this; what if they do? i had a guy call 911 at my house after one toke... had the cops show up and everything (with 8 babies in the closet) soooo close...

[Kb420Kb]

:o thats crazy.. But my neihboor is cool haha it's an old lady and she's a gardener I talk to her alot and she gave me some of her soil xD but I got new soil today. She could give me tips also haha.. And she's seen me smoke before -.- she dosent care she minds her own buisness. And at night time its always windy and so i smoke at that time so the smoke will go away quicker. Thanks for all the tips though Kp I understand what your trying to say =\ but you will help me with veggies right? xD

[Kb420Kb]

Ok I finally got the update pics xD Plant 2 is looking healthier then plant 1 =\ check them out.


Ps. I put tape on the fan because it silences it and makes it sound like my computer is making the noise xD


Picture 1 : Plant 2 and plant 1 together. (I switched the plants around so plant 2 is on the left and plant 1 is on the right)

Picture 2-3 : Plant 2 (I think day.. 9)

Picture 4-5 : Plant 1 (I think day.. 11)



Kb

[Kb420Kb]

Here is a picture of the temperature.. It looks to me as if it is about 82-83 is that good? =\ I put a ventilation in my room its 3 tubes coming from my room because my room is chilli xD it should work.

[Kb420Kb]

Ok well.. the temerpature is at exactly 80 now that i put the ventilation in. xD im excited on my updates I moved up alot.. the pH of the water is perfect and i have a few bottles of it sitting in my computer cabinet.



Kb

[Chronic Chrissy]

Try to keep your temp no higher than 80, if it goes a few degrees higher though it's not much to worry about. What you really want to aim for is consistancy, so tray and keep your temp above 70 at night. Where are the veggie picks? I sawthat venus fly trap the other day too how's that going? Oh and just tell your mom. You can take care of them better if you don't have to hide them. Oh and pH, test the water then after you water test the run off, When you start nutes this will be a valuable test to give you a heads up for build up and over fertilization. Don't just do it to your pot do it for all your plants.

[Kb420Kb]

ya i got that xD ill take a few pics of my veggies and umm.. my pot plants got a bit bigger and plant 2's leaves are still curled =\ i dont know what to do the temp is exactly 80 and im about to start the 18 hours light and 6 hours dark. lights off in 30min. So im going to take some pics now and do lights off. And at 11 before i go to sleep ill turn it back on xD and repeat the process until there ready for flowering. I dont know what nutes to buy though =\

[Kb420Kb]

Im thinking about switching the 26w cfl over plant 2 to the 23w cfl i got. but i dont know if it'll make a big difference.

[Kb420Kb]

Here are some pics of my veggies still in the seedling sacks xD and some more random plants i have.

[Kb420Kb]

Here are some pics of my pot plants.

Pictures 1,2 : Plant 2

Pictures 3,4,5 : Plant 1

[Kb420Kb]

Both plant 2 and 1

[Kb420Kb]

Lights just went off.. 5:00 p.m at 11 pm i turn them back on. i need a timer -.-

[Chronic Chrissy]

Lights just went off.. 5:00 p.m at 11 pm i turn them back on. i need a timer -.-

10$ their cheap man

[Kb420Kb]

Thanks.. so what do you think about my veggies?

[Chronic Chrissy]

Can't see nothing wrong with them but I've nevergrown veggies indoors since we lived out on the farm. As for nutes I spent about $30 on the three part advance nutrients. I like the nute calculator they have on their site, takes the guess work out of it. Advanced Nutrients | General Hydroponics | Hydroponic Supplies (http://www.advancednutrients.com) I just picked up some cabload , big bud, and mg/ca suppliments. And there cahrt tell me what to use and how much when in the cycle.

[Kb420Kb]

o ok thanks so much chrissy xD o ya i think i got a new grow room .. im going to paint the walls white pretty soon and put my plants in it.. its a rubbermaid container. my cousin gave it to me xD cant wait to try it out.

[Kb420Kb]

ok well i talked to this guy i know (My dealer) and he said that im over watering plant 1 =\ he said water it ever 2 days and plant 2 is doing fine. just keep watering it at the same pace as i am now.

[bluntman 420]

nice dude ur probably gonna wanna add a couple more of those 26 watt cfls. 2 more at least.

[bluntman 420]

or u can go to lowes and get a 75 watt hps for $52.00

[Kb420Kb]

or u can go to lowes and get a 75 watt hps for $52.00

nah.. im going to wait till there 8-12" before i get a hps. and these 2 lights are doing fine.. i have two 26w cfls. thats like a total of umm.. like 3200lumens.i think.

[kindprincess]

ok well i talked to this guy i know (My dealer) and he said that im over watering plant 1 =\ he said water it ever 2 days and plant 2 is doing fine. just keep watering it at the same pace as i am now.

big time "no-no" sweetie...

[Kb420Kb]

=\ oh yeah my mom said i can grow but my limit is 2 plants. =\ and they have to be for personal use only. :( i was going to smoke with my friends if i get that far.



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[Kb420Kb]

I was wondering.. Once my plants get bigger and they get full leaves.. can I make a clone and put it straight into flowering? And umm also.. will it make it short and and stubby? i want a small plant =\

[Kb420Kb]

Ok so my plants are in 6 hours of undisturbed darkness for the first time and lights on is in 18min. I will put some update pictures when lights go on. And also my girlfriend is going to start planting so im going to go over to her house this weekend and set it up for her xD she is going to grow 4 plants :rastasmoke: i want 1 of them xD or 2 if she dosent want to care for them all.. but um.. ya my plants are looking good so far.



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[Kb420Kb]

with lights off it dropped down to 68 degrees =\ ima have to turn my fan off for it to stay the right temp. =\ alright well im about to post some pics.

[Kb420Kb]

with lights off it dropped down to 68 degrees =\ ima have to turn my fan off for it to stay the right temp. =\ alright well im about to post some pics.

there was no need to post pics because they look the same. I'll post pics tomorrow. but for now ima go study on peoples grow logs and stuff.
if you need anything just post on my thread and ill check it later..

xD



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[Kb420Kb]

Why is the stem purple?

[Chronic Chrissy]

The purpole stem could be one of three things I know of
1)pH problem preventing nutrient uptake
2)time to start feeding, you have a deficiency
3)could just be the strain you have.

Oh and my temp drops to 68 every night and up to 80 during the day, but it is always the same so you should be fine.

[Kb420Kb]

ok cool.. thanks chrissy.. and i dont think its pH problems becuase i have perfect pH

[Chronic Chrissy]

could be time to start a weak feed?

[Kb420Kb]

i dont know what to buy =\ o ya chrissy i have bad news! :o ok i left my lights on while i slept and 1 of them fell on top of the healthy one (plant 2) and it burnt 1 of the bottom leaves and its like dead almost and 3 of the top leaves are little brownish/yellow on the tips =\ will it survive?

[Chronic Chrissy]

I don't know, plants can take alot, if she has a good root system and at least one healthy leaf(even if it's tiny) she could bounce back. Sorry but I can't help with the nutes, I just trust the guys at my grow shop.

I'm sorry your baby is hurting, I think it's time to get a timer bud.

[Kb420Kb]

ya =\ i need to go this weekend.. thats the only time i can go get new stuff.. and im still waiting for my child support check so i can buy more stuff.. I get 300$ a month and i get to keep it xD but umm. im going to buy 1 timer for now and once i move into my other room im going to get 2 1 for vegetation and 1 for flowering xD. and ya she has atleast 3-4 healthy leaves and 1 is 90% dead =\ so i guess she'll come back? =\ ok well thanks alot chrissy.. you've been a big help xD check back tomorrow i might have update pics because my camera died =\ i need more double A batteries i left my camera on AGAIN for the 3rd time and it died =\ ok well ttyl xD



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[Chronic Chrissy]

'night

[Kb420Kb]

Ya im going to bed now =\ im really tired. Gotta wake up at 6:15 for school -.- good night to everyone that visits my thread while im sleeping xD



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[kindprincess]

for the best of all worlds, get miracle grow all pupose plant food 24-8-16, for use in veg, not a flower fert...

kp

[Kb420Kb]

ok thanks kp



kb

[HiProGlow]

I don't know if your plants are ready for nutes yet, they seem a bit small to me. I wouldn't worry too much about your stem. Looking good! Peace!

[Kindbud]

they are way to small.. So great to see you got that 23watt in there bro,those plants are lovin it. I'd wait untill 3 weeks and still dull the fert 1/3 of whatever it suggests. Keep the updates comin ,later . -kb

[Chronic Chrissy]

New pics are uploading kb! I can't wait to see what everyone thinks of my babies.

[Chronic Chrissy]

uploading fucked up all that time wasted! uhg....

[Chronic Chrissy]

Hey where's my little buddy? I got new pics to show you!

How's everything going?

[Kb420Kb]

Hey chrissy xD sorry i fell asleep early today.. :( Sorry for the unexpectingly long delay on pics =\ I still havent gotten batteries for my camera. I'll try and get some tomorrow.. Remember plant 1 was doing kinda un healthy? its doing amazing. it got big! xD plant 2 is kinda dead almost :( im scared its going to die. Im going to get some miracle grow like KP said xD ok well ima go check out your pics.



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[Kb420Kb]

Ok welll.. umm THE LITTLE HEALTHY BABY PLANT DIED!!!! PLANT 2 :(( and plant 1 is still really relaly healthy and i think its a female!? wtf is it possible to tell this early? ill find some batteries and take pics. umm.. yaa keep me updated please my thread is dying :(

[Chronic Chrissy]

I'm so sorry buddy. But that still leaves one more. Plus your mom said you can only have 2. So that means you can grow another and with what you've learnt that means this one should do way better.

I wanted to ask you about the dreads, I really just want to understand. Why? why do you want dreads? Are the dread more important then getting through only a month of school, as upposed to boot camp? Why are you at the school you are at now?

Please don't take this the wrong way. I want to tell you a bit about myself in exchange. I grew up in an emotionally and physically abusive household. When I wa 13 I started getting into smoking, drugs, and drinking, hard core, and of course skipping school, going to class high, and slacking off. At 15 I had the cops called to remove me from my school by my mother. I ran. Long story short they found me all three times. But the third time I was granted my own gaurdianship. I was still 15 I got a job and bought my first house for $35,000. I went back to school after two years and graduated only one semester late, with honors, stoned everyday and was 8 months pregnant and married by my graduation. I had to work really hard at school to just make myself go and not take off half way through the day.

My advice is...
Go to school for every class, even if you are stoned so long as you can function stoned, if you can't just go after school.
Pay attention in class, and get a much work done as possible, don't bother socializing unless they are actually helping you work and you are getting stuff done.( I can count on my fingers how many times I actually had homework after spending my class to just work and not socialize, If you have homework then something is up)
Do your homework, even if you don't get it. Give it your best shot that way it is easier to figure out where you are going wrong.
If you do this you will pass!

Get it done and over with because you can suck it up and conform for 4 years(highschool of course), or you can fight an up hill battle till you are 25(the age of kids still in my highschool).

Once you get that peice of paper and you are finished school you have tons of time to do what you want with the freedom(well kinda) you want.

Oh by the way I'm only 19 so it's not like we are completely differnt generations.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Thanks for the rep(I didn't know about rep till I saw your sig and checked it out), Now I need to go spread some rep to people who have helped me. And thanks for the rep in return.

[bluntman 420]

hey kb. sorry to hear about the death. (moment of silence) lol. u loearn from the mistakes u make so ur next grow will be the bomb. good luck and keep us posted! looking forward to pics!!

[Kb420Kb]

haha ya chrissy im at this school because i did bars (xanex) and got caught so im there for 20 more days and it dosent matter how my hair is and stuff its just that it cant be in my face and i figured out how to keep it out of my face. bobby pins , hairspray and gel -.- thats alot to keep it out of my face but it works.. and it helps with my dreads! haha cant wait till i get a full head of them. there natural not professional. and um.. ya im only going to keep this one plant and im sure its a female! xD i have two 26w cfls over it with a fan. i got my new grow room completed i got pics that i will post after i put them on my computer. the plant is doing great. cant wait. and umm how long does it take for it to bud and stuff? im anxiouse lol.. well chrissy thanks for all the helpful info on my life.. xD your a very nice and caring person :) thanks.


Kb/Gary (thats my name) -.-

[bluntman 420]

hey kb, sorry to hear about ur plant dying. that sucks. as for what chrissy said. i too grew up in a realy abusive household. my dad beat my mom into a coma. its that kinda shit that fucks u up in the head man. i started smokin when i was 11 (im 20 now) i never gave a fuck about school. in classes the teacher wouldnt even pass homework out to me cuz she knew i wouldnt do it. u dont realize how much u fucked up until u get a few years older and are out of school and have real responsabilities to take care of, instead of sitting home during summer break snd smokin weed with ur buddies. the real world is harsh man and these days without and education u cant get that far. its getting harder and harder. i wish the best of luck to you with your academics and succes in life. one love.

[Kb420Kb]

Ok, here are the update pics after so long.. sorry for the long delay guys! xD

[Kb420Kb]

in picture 5 there are the leaves developing but also.. there are some little strings coming out i dont know if there leaves or the female glands =\ i really hope its the female glands.. there really really small.. you'd have to see it in person.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Those SHOULD be the new branches, after that you should see preflowering develope in that area. Looking good.

[brookerosebud]

... they are the beginnings of lateral branches. a plant will reach sexual maturity between 4-8 weeks of age. you wont see preflowers yet, you don't know that its a female, CAN do everything possible to keep your enviornment in check to insure the odds...

you can use the miracle gro now, 1/4 strength.

brooke:p

[Chronic Chrissy]

Morning little buddy.:p

[Chronic Chrissy]

Just bumping you up so you don't die out.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I don't want to let you die but if you aren't around I don't know how long I'll do it for. Where've you been?

[Kb420Kb]

im sorry chrissy my nephew got a hold of my plant (3 year old) and killed it :( no more plant.. i give up. its to much work lol.. and im really lazy but ill keep you updated on your plants chrissy.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Shitty deal man. lol everytime I take Kiana downstairs to check something she keeps trying to weasle her way closer to the plants and I've had to pull her away last second a few times to keep her from ripping at the leaves.

Hey come visit me any time, maybe after I gt my setup figured out and my first harvest done you can drive up and take a few extra clones off my hands.

[420Paul]

Too much work? It only takes 20mins a day, if your setup is right, I think that you might have felt it was alot of work, because you wernt properly prepared from the begining, I myself, started out much like you, sit back, bulid your setup first, and then your growing result will be much better!

[tek(bdm)]

dude ur my idol i plan on growing soon too and your blog is super noob...thankz iama learn alot because u ask alot unlike all those other pros iama be checking this blog till the end man

[undertheinfluence]

plan, research, plan, research, plan, research, build, grow, harvest, :rastasmoke:

[undertheinfluence]

oh yeah, you have to plan and research....

[Shovelhandle]

sorry about yer grow.

Good Luck with the rest.

SHov