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MRB041
11-24-2004, 08:12 PM
iv been doin some research, and i learned about thc recepters, at least im tryin to, im no chem major haha but it got me thinkin, ppl always say that pot kills brain cells, but i cant find any information to support or oppose it. So does pot kill brain cells or not? Links of sites that explain this would be greatly appreciated

king cola
11-24-2004, 09:17 PM
most substances destroy brain cells or its bad for u, i would say that smoking loadsa weed does fuck with your head, i have jus finished off my half bar of weed i grew, and i didnt sell any and once that ran out and i went back to not smoking as much, my body jus fucked up for a while and my head was mad, and also smoking loadsa of the really potent shit not jus your average weed, you know what i mean, but that makes you feel confused in the head when your not smoking it,

anyways who needs braincells?

as for websites try www.erowid.com look at cannabis, mite have summit bout killin braincells there.

juanskee
11-24-2004, 10:12 PM
loadsa, sounds about right.
We only use like 10% of our brain anyways.

thcbongman
11-24-2004, 10:34 PM
THC causes a fatty tissue to form around your brain, causing some brain cells to go dormant.

The brain cells that die, the rest get stronger.

IntrepidS
11-25-2004, 12:22 AM
no it doesn't, it just fucks them up.

thcbongman
11-25-2004, 12:26 AM
3) Doesn't Marijuana cause brain damage?
The short answer: No.
The long answer: The reason why you ask this is because you probably heard or read somewhere that marijuana damages brain cells, or makes you stupid. These claims are untrue.

The first one -- marijuana kills brain cells -- is based on research done during the second Reefer Madness Movement. A study attempted to show that marijuana smoking damaged brain structures in monkeys. However, the study was poorly performed and it was severely criticized by a medical review board. Studies done afterwards failed to show any brain damage, in fact a very recent study on Rhesus monkeys used technology so sensitive that scientists could actually see the effect of learning on brain cells, and it found no damage.

But this was Reefer Madness II, and the prohibitionists were looking around for anything they could find to keep the marijuana legalization movement in check, so this study was widely used in anti-marijuana propaganda. It was recanted later.

(To this day, the radical anti-drug groups, like P.R.I.D.E. and Dr. Gabriel Nahas, still use it -- In fact, America's most popular drug education program, Drug Abuse Resistance Education, claims that marijuana ``can impair memory perception & judgement by destroying brain cells.'' When police and teachers read this and believe it, our job gets really tough, since it takes a long time to explain to children how Ms. Jones and Officer Bob were wrong.)

The truth is, no study has ever demonstrated cellular damage, stupidity, mental impairment, or insanity brought on specifically by marijuana use -- even heavy marijuana use. This is not to say that it cannot be abused, however.


4) If it doesn't kill brain cells, how does it get you `high'?
Killing brain cells is not a pre-requisite for getting `high.' Marijuana contains a chemical which substitutes for a natural brain chemical, with a few differences. This chemical touches special `buttons' on brain cells called `receptors.' Essentially, marijuana `tickles' brain cells. The legal drug alcohol also tickles brain cells, but it will damage and kill them by producing toxins (poisons) and sometimes mini-seizures. Also, some drugs will wear out the buttons which they push, but marijuana does not.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_faq1.shtml#3-6

littlebud24
11-25-2004, 03:49 AM
just wondering.. so why is marijuanna illegal

my friend told me the it had something to do with back a long time ago black people smoked weed and tobacco was considered err classier(sp?)

The C
11-25-2004, 04:57 AM
mabe long time ago there wer kings and shit who moked the cannibus, but they got overthrown by a nrighbouting power and then cannibus, there cluture was considered bad and negative.

The C

The C
11-25-2004, 05:00 AM
cannibus was a prt of the pwther powers lifestyle, so itshuld be kept in check and hated, because those who smoked it came to revelation. Mabe Socratise was a stoner, how about Aristotle and Plato.

Pot heads, socailists, and when capitalists/conservatives take over they shove it in the face of true socailism.

The C

kr1Nx01
11-25-2004, 01:26 PM
just wondering.. so why is marijuanna illegal

my friend told me the it had something to do with back a long time ago black people smoked weed and tobacco was considered err classier(sp?)


"a long time ago" (the early decades of the 20th century) the government had a thing against chinese and "their opium," blacks and "their cocaine," and mexicans and "their marijuana." it had to do with the fact that they needed a scape goat for the crime rate and the minority jobs being created and so on, so they chose to control those popular substances used by minorities, citing their drug use as the underlying problem with what was going on at the time with the rise in whatever bad shit they could make up. so yeah first went opium, then coke, then marijuana. but not alcohol or tobacco... too many "white people" used those "social enhancers."

stupid morons back then, it's a wonder we got as far as we did with shite politics like that.

BOgart.bitch
11-25-2004, 07:34 PM
if it doesnt kill brain cells then how is your memory fucked? and im not going by whta ive heard.. my memory along with people's memories who ive smoked with have all been heavily damaged since we started smoking regularly.

juanskee
11-25-2004, 08:19 PM
you let it go. gone bye bye. It's all in your head. Believe me it's there your just not using it.

BOgart.bitch
11-25-2004, 08:23 PM
hmm thats a thought. i think i should buy memory cards and play with them to motivate my sleeping memory cells ;p

Proof
11-25-2004, 09:09 PM
lol my parents always say the pot is killin off ur brain cells when i make mistakes but they blame anythin i do wrong on weed damn buggas

InhaleItALL
11-25-2004, 09:12 PM
iv been doin some research, and i learned about thc recepters, at least im tryin to, im no chem major haha but it got me thinkin, ppl always say that pot kills brain cells, but i cant find any information to support or oppose it. So does pot kill brain cells or not? Links of sites that explain this would be greatly appreciated from webMD.com

Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain Analysis of Studies Finds Little Effect From Long-Term Use By Sid Kirchheimer (http://my.webmd.com/content/Biography/7/65292.htm)WebMD Medical News Reviewed By Michael Smith, MD (http://my.webmd.com/content/Biography/7/1756_53424.htm) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003
July 1, 2003 -- Long-term and even daily marijuana use doesn't appear to cause permanent brain damage, adding to evidence that it can be a safe and effective treatment for a wide range of diseases, say researchers.

The researchers found only a "very small" impairment in memory and learning among long-term marijuana users. Otherwise, scores on thinking tests were similar to those who don't smoke marijuana, according to a new analysis of 15 previous studies.

In those studies, some 700 regular marijuana users were compared with 484 non-users on various aspects of brain function -- including reaction time, language and motor skills, reasoning ability, memory, and the ability to learn new information.

Surprising Finding

"We were somewhat surprised by our finding, especially since there's been a controversy for some years on whether long-term cannabis use causes brain damage," says lead researcher and psychiatrist Igor Grant, MD.

"I suppose we expected to see some differences in people who were heavy users, but in fact the differences were very minimal."

The marijuana users in those 15 studies -- which lasted between three months to more than 13 years -- had smoked marijuana several times a week or month or daily. Still, researchers say impairments were less than what is typically found from using alcohol or other drugs.

"All study participants were adults," says Grant, professor of psychiatry and director of the Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research Center at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine.

"However, there might be a different set of circumstances to a 12-year-old whose nervous system is still developing."

10 States OK Marijuana Use

Grant's analysis, published in the July issue of the Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society, comes as many states consider laws allowing marijuana to be used to treat certain medical conditions. Earlier this year, Maryland became the 10th state to allow marijuana use to relieve pain and other symptoms of AIDS, multiple sclerosis, cancer, glaucoma, and other conditions -- joining Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington.

Medicinal marijuana is available by prescription in the Netherlands and a new marijuana drug is expected to be released in Great Britain later this year. In the U.S. and elsewhere, Marinol, a drug that is a synthetic form of marijuana and contains its active ingredient, THC, is available by prescription to treat loss of appetite associated with weight loss in AIDS patients.

Grant says he did the analysis to help determine long-term toxicity from long-term and frequent marijuana use. His center is currently conducting 11 studies to determine its safety and efficacy in treating several diseases.

"This finding enables us to see a marginal level of safety, if those studies prove that cannabis can be effective," Grant tells WebMD. "If we barely find this effect in long-term heavy users, then we are unlikely to see deleterious side effects in individuals who receive cannabis for a short time in a medical setting, which would be safer than what is practiced by street users."

Grant's findings come as no surprise to Tod Mikuriya, MD, former director of non-classified marijuana research for the National Institute of Mental Health Center for Narcotics and Drug Abuse Studies and author of The Marijuana Medical Handbook: A Guide to Therapeutic Use. He is currently president of the California Cannabis Medical Group, which has treated some 20,000 patients with medicinal marijuana and Marinol.

'Highly Effective Medicine'

"I just re-published a paper of the first survey for marijuana toxicity done in 1863 by the British government in India that was the most exhaustive medical study of its time in regards to possible difficulties and toxicity of cannabis. And it reached the same conclusion as Grant," Mikuriya tells WebMD.

"This is merely confirming what was known over 100 years ago, as well as what was learned by various government findings doing similar research -- marijuana is not toxic, but it is a highly effective medicine."

In fact, marijuana was available as a medicinal treatment in the U.S. until the 1930s.

Lester Grinspoon, MD, a retired Harvard Medical School psychiatrist who studied medicinal marijuana use since the 1960s and wrote two books on the topic, says that while Grant's finding provides more evidence on its safety, "it's nothing that those of us who have been studying this haven't known for a very long time.

"Marijuana is a remarkably safe and non-toxic drug that can effectively treat about 30 different conditions," he tells WebMD. "I predict it will become the aspirin of the 21st century, as more people recognize this."

SOURCES: The Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society, July 2003. Igor Grant, MD, professor of psychiatry, University of California, San Diego School of Medicine; director, UCSD Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research Center. Tod Mikuriya, MD, president, the California Cannabis Research Medical Group, Oakland; former director of non-classified marijuana research, the National Institute of Mental Health Center for Narcotics and Drug Abuse Studies. Lester Grinspoon, MD, professor emeritus of psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston; author, Marijuana: The Forbidden Medicine and Marihuana Reconsidered.

Stoned Scouser
11-25-2004, 09:38 PM
lol my parents always say the pot is killin off ur brain cells when i make mistakes but they blame anythin i do wrong on weed damn buggas
I Know Exactly How U Feel Proof! lol But That Big Article Was Really Interesting N Its Defo Boosted My Confidence In Living By The Herb!.. cheers Inhaleitall

XTC
11-25-2004, 10:07 PM
trust me Weed kills briancells. I have a buddy who smokes NON STOP. and trust me he forgets everything...

ScarlettCrush
11-25-2004, 10:36 PM
trust me Weed kills briancells. I have a buddy who smokes NON STOP. and trust me he forgets everything...

weed does not make you smarter, chances are he was dumb to begin with. I am going to put my faith in medical research and observation instead of random bb posts about brian cells.

thank you, goodnight.

Euphoric
11-25-2004, 10:43 PM
if it doesnt kill brain cells then how is your memory fucked? and im not going by whta ive heard.. my memory along with people's memories who ive smoked with have all been heavily damaged since we started smoking regularly.

studies show that marijuana does effect short term memory. however, as soon as you stop smoking, the "damage" is reversed. so its nothing permenant :)

juanskee
11-26-2004, 12:48 AM
I think the only reason it does affect the short term memory is because weed keeps you so occupied. You just need to know when not to get high. Otherwise short term memory is over-rated.

Bogart get the 32bit memory chips :D They make you member real good. derka derka derka. :D

JohnnyBravo
11-26-2004, 12:54 AM
Weed kills your health, simple as.

Euphoric
11-26-2004, 01:18 AM
Weed kills your health, simple as.

pffffft..no it doesn't. cigarettes are more harmful to you. they will actually kill you! if you want to be healthy..exercise, try not to be too stressed (RELAX+ SMOKE WEED) and eat a good diet ;)

Ammie
11-26-2004, 01:33 AM
pffffft..no it doesn't. cigarettes are more harmful to you. they will actually kill you! if you want to be healthy..exercise, try not to be too stressed (RELAX+ SMOKE WEED) and eat a good diet ;)


good idea :D now pass the bong ;)

oh and btw everything fucks with ur body some how so fuck it have fun and enjoy life!!

BOgart.bitch
11-26-2004, 06:04 AM
I think the only reason it does affect the short term memory is because weed keeps you so occupied. You just need to know when not to get high. Otherwise short term memory is over-rated.

Bogart get the 32bit memory chips :D They make you member real good. derka derka derka. :D

haha you can pick them up at any radio shack, eh? ;p

Imotep
11-26-2004, 10:49 AM
i started eating brahmi memoryherb and its pretty bloody effective i reckon. bitter alkaloids...mmm... :)

InhaleItALL
11-26-2004, 08:54 PM
I Know Exactly How U Feel Proof! lol But That Big Article Was Really Interesting N Its Defo Boosted My Confidence In Living By The Herb!.. cheers Inhaleitall another study..http://www.hnrc.ucsd.edu/publications_pdf/348art2003.pdf

Another study, but don't read while stoned. Not recommended. :p

duppy man
11-26-2004, 09:19 PM
trust me Weed kills briancells. I have a buddy who smokes NON STOP. and trust me he forgets everything...
can he give me a loan of say $20.000 :D I don't want to take advantage of his memory deficit :o

InhaleItALL
11-26-2004, 09:22 PM
trust me Weed kills briancells. I have a buddy who smokes NON STOP. and trust me he forgets everything... Well, I will be safe then, cuz my name is not BRIAN, and it only kills "briancells".

lol
just teasin':D

king cola
11-27-2004, 06:14 PM
Well, I will be safe then, cuz my name is not BRIAN, and it only kills "briancells".

lol
just teasin':D


hahhahahah, lol.