first time grower and im stumped

[barry buds]

hello i am a first time grower and i have a question. i have an indica growing in my closet, it has been growing for about 3 weeks. it is about 120mm tall and it has 3 female pistils on it. is it normal for the sex to be showing this early.

can anyone give ma an answer why

hello

[locomark]

Well Barry,

I would relax a little over a joint if I were you. Anyway, anything is possible with a female you never know. Therefore all you can do is keep growing and keep reading.

Loco

[kindprincess]

no, it's not realy normal, but, you have a female:) congratulations! you can flower anytime now...

[Chronic Chrissy]

Mine did this at 3-4 weeks. By the time I noticed they were at every node. My afghanis had more sooner then my northerns.

[barry buds]

but if i flower now i wont get as much product.

my plant only just came out of seedling and it is showing already

here are pics i took yesterday. [attachment=o112547]

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[budsmoker only]

but if i flower now i wont get as much product.

if your seeing signs of female then your already flowering... whats the light schedule??

[barry buds]

if your seeing signs of female then your already flowering... whats the light schedule?? it was 13\11 but i changed it back to 16\8 lastnight. i hope that is ok.

she is 22 days old today

[madeline]

I'm glad I looked at the pics before posting because I was about to say highly unlikely so soon. But there it is! Congrats! I have never seen or heard of them showing so early!

[barry buds]

I'm glad I looked at the pics before posting because I was about to say highly unlikely so soon. But there it is! Congrats! I have never seen or heard of them showing so early!
i am growing under flourecent light. a 45 watt spiral bulb.

the only really good thing i can see from showing early is that i am not wasting a bunch of time on a male plant

i am using all purpose miracle grow 24-8-16 with micronutrients. and i am providing CO2 through the backing soda and vinigar method.

[budsmoker only]

how long did you have it on 13/11 for??

[barry buds]

how long did you have it on 13/11 for??3 days

[budsmoker only]

wow, it showed signs in 3 days.. i think thats really quick.. but i think if you go back to a vegatative state then that will stress out the plant and make it a hermy, i could be wrong on this though...

[barry buds]

wow, it showed signs in 3 days.. i think thats really quick.. but i think if you go back to a vegatative state then that will stress out the plant and make it a hermy, i could be wrong on this though...i hope you are wrong becouse i definitly dont want a hermaphrodite.

it has about 10 or more female pistils around the top half.. just the bottom set of leaves are not showing them.

if i let it flower at such a young age and small size wont i get very small yield and very crappy product.

any one

anyone with an answer

[kindprincess]

switch to 12-12 NOW!! she's already in flower. flowering now will mean a little less in the end but will be just as potent if you take care of it.

you can't change the light cycles like that though. as stated before, it stresses the plant. put her on 12-12 as soon as you read this post. don't think, just do, then read the article "pre-flowering and flowering" in the college link in my sig.

hope you're not too late,
kp:(

[barry buds]

switch to 12-12 NOW!! she's already in flower. flowering now will mean a little less in the end but will be just as potent if you take care of it.

you can't change the light cycles like that though. as stated before, it stresses the plant. put her on 12-12 as soon as you read this post. don't think, just do, then read the article "pre-flowering and flowering" in the college link in my sig.

hope you're not too late,
kp:(are you sure. will it still grow bigger as it flowers. and should i clone her now.

[barry buds]

[attachment=o112555] how much bud can i possably get from a plant this big.

[kindprincess]

yes take your cuttings and put her back in flower. she will still get bigger, twice to three times the size she is now.

[kindprincess]

an ounce to two ounces depending on lighting. if you can get an hps, do so...

[barry buds]

yes take your cuttings and put her back in flower. she will still get bigger, twice to three times the size she is now.ok good i was afraid that she wouldnt grow anymore and just flower a little bit. thanks.
:jointsmile:

i lifted the light a little higher about 2 days ago to try to get it to stretch a bit. is that a good idea. and will it work.

anyone

[Chronic Chrissy]

I didn't know you changed your light cycle. Mine did it with out the change on their own, and I'm still vegging(hopefully my new flower room is done tommorrow!). I dont understand why you changed the light cycle in the first place?

[kindprincess]

no, she will stretch on her own. here...

this came from marijuanahydro.com and may have originally come from greg green's cannabis grow bible.

PRE-FLOWERING AND FLOWERING
BY NOW YOU'VE MANAGED TO SET UP THE BASIC growing environment and experimented with modifying and controlling it to promote better, stronger plant growth. You will have observed your plants forming a number of nodes and a small leaf mass at the top, which you know is going to form the next set of leaves and branches. Your leaves should be flat and stretched out to receive as much light as possible across their surface area. If they are, then your plant is enjoying its environment. If not then maybe you should consider turning to the Problem Solver in Chapter 13 to see what has gone wrong.

You should also note that almost everyone makes mistakes the first time growing. Very few first-time growers get to this stage without experiencing at least one problem, so don't feel bad if you didn't get it right the first time.The trick to growing healthier, more potent plants is to keep growing (and reading this book).
During the vegetative growth stage your plants will begin to grow quickly and produce more leaves and new branches. The stem will also grow thicker. This is the point when your plants begin to really look like marijuana.

Then, one day you will notice that your plants appear to be doing more than just growing vertically and producing leaves. You take a closer look and there appears to be new leaf growth at most of the node regions between the stem and the branches. Your plant is now developed enough to receive more light energy and covert this energy into more side branch growth. These new growths produce more leaves, branches, and eventually flowers. This type of new growth at the stem's node regions is called lateral branching or secondary branching. This is really where the extra node regions begin to take shape.

After a few more weeks of this secondary growth your plant is looking more bushy and certainly has more node regions. It is during this time that your plant has reached sexual maturity and is ready to show sex. How long this takes depends on the strain you are growing but after the seedling stage has finished you are looking at a time period of 4 to 8 weeks vegetative growth. With Sativa strains this can take much longer.
At a certain stage towards the end of vegetative growth the plant enters its pre-flowering phase and, as a grower, you need to tailor your grow space and gardening approach to this new stage in your plants' life cycle.The next section explains how to identify the pre-flowering stage.

PRE-FLOWERING AND EARLY SEXING
Recall that during pre-flowering, plants start to exhibit their sex. As a grower, you should be hoping for as many females as possible. Pre-flowering occurs at the node regions. Towards the end of vegetative growth you need to check your plant nodes for what is called calyx development. A clone will carry the exact same genetic makeup as the plant it came from, so if you know your clone's history you will already be able to predict it's sex.

CHECKING FOR CALYX DEVELOPMENT
Choose a plant. First of all examine the node regions of the plant where the branches meet the stem. You are looking for very small pod shaped organs here at these regions.* If you don't find any here then move outwards along each branch checking each node region until you come to the tip. If you do not find calyx development then your plant has not reached its pre-flowering phase yet. You need to wait for it. Calyx development will come in time.
There are three early indicators of plant sex, but they are not 100 percent accurate.So remember, these methods can fail, but are often accurate predictors of your plants' sex.

First Early Sexing Method
If you've been growing the same strain and all the seeds were started at the same time, then you may notice that some plants are taller than others: the smaller plants tend to be female and the taller ones tend to be male. You can separate these plants into two sections in order to see how good your guesswork was when you do definitively identify sex. The other thing to note is that male plants generally start to pre-flower before females. If you have taller plants that are producing new growths before the smaller ones then the taller plants are probably male.

Second Early Sexing Method
A good way to identify plant sex at an early date is to examine the calyx* with the aid of a very fine magnifying glass. If the calyx is raised on a small, short stem then it's probably a male. If the calyx isn't raised on a small short stem then it's probably a female.

Third Early Sexing Method
'Force-flowering' is probably the best early-sexing method. To force-flower a cannabis plant, simply take a cutting and place it in a cup of water or a cloning medium, such as rockwool. Expose the cutting to 12 hours of light followed by 12 hours of total darkness. The cutting should flower and display its sex — however the plant must be mature enough to present its sex. An immature plant will not show sex because initial calyx development is not photoperiod-related. Plants normally mature around the forth week of vegetative growth because sex is not genetically determined until the third week of growth.This also applies to 'feminized seeds,' which can, and often do, turn out to be male.** If your plants are exhibiting calyx development, then this is a suitable method of determining the plant's sex.

These methods are NOT 100 percent accurate. Later in this Chapter we will explain how to definitively identify the sex of your marijuana plant.

WHEN TO FLOWER?
Your plant will remain in the pre-flowering stage between one and two weeks. During this period, the new growth regions begin to change shape depending on the plants' sex. It is during this shape change that you can properly detect your plant's sex.
Pre-flowering is a sign that your plant is mature enough to start flowering. As a grower you have a simple choice to make: Do you want to flower now or do you want to continue vegetative growth? Here are a few issues to consider before you make a decision:

• Most cannabis plants can be kept alive for up to 12 years by simply keeping a light on the plant at all times. Even if the plant only receives light for a few hours a day it can still live for a long time. It all depends on how the plant is treated. These plants will grow to a certain height and then form into a bush. Eventually they will stop producing branches and will spend the rest of their lives growing new leaves to replace the old ones. By keeping the plant in vegetative growth longer, you allow it to reach its optimal size of vegetative growth and the plant will stop growing. Most growers flower before this, when they see calyx development, in order to speed up the growing process. For example: A plant that shows sex at the forth week of vegetative growth can be kept in vegetative growth for a few more weeks to allow the plant to generate more node regions (leading to more branch and leaf growth). When the plant is flowered, this extra stage of growth should help the plant to achieve optimal results however the grow time is extended by a few more weeks to obtain this.

• Bud production does not increase at the same rate as plant growth. Bud production depends on your growing environment, your strain's genetic makeup and the amount of nodes the plant has. All nodes are potential bud areas, but every strain has a genetic threshold for bud production.

• It is possible to get more bud with lots of plants that are flowered as soon as they're mature (which also keeps them shorter and smaller), than extending vegetative growth with less plants until they reach their maximum height and size. The time frame for the shorter option also produces more bud turnover per year.

Keeping these things in mind, you can either choose to flower now or choose to keep your plant growing until it reaches its size threshold before you start flowering. If you take the longer route, prepare to have the space for it, because in the flowering stage, some cannabis strains can more than double in height and width.
If you want your pre-flowers to flower you only have to do one thing: introduce the 12/12 light schedule.

THE ALL-IMPORTANT 12/12!
If you've never heard of 12/12, listen up. 12/12 is the key to producing high quantities of bud from cannabis plants.

Cannabis plants grow outdoors naturally between the months of April and October/November. This means that toward Sept/Nov* the plants will be flowering. During this time the days get shorter and the nights get longer. When this occurs, the plants are subjected to 12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness.
When this 12/12 photoperiod occurs, the plant is naturally stimulated to flower. As long as 12/12 continues the flowers will grow larger and more plentiful. This is part of the cannabis plants' natural cycle. Naturally, as a grower, you want a large quantity of flowers, and you achieve this by introducing the 12/12 light cycle.
During pre-flowering you can either manually turn on your lights for 12 hours and turn off your light for 12 hours every day or you can use a timer to automate the process.Throughout the 12 hours of darkness you should keep your grow area as dark as possible. Even something as seemingly harmless as a small desk light at the other side of your room will cause your plant not to react properly to 12/12, resulting in continued vegetative growth. In fact, any light that penetrates the darkness could stop your plants from flowering properly. That means your grow room must be sealed to the point where it is completely lightproof.

If you want to learn how to do completely lightproof your space then I suggest that you read up on photography dark rooms, either on the Internet or in your local library. Photographers use common items that can be bought in most hardware shops to make their film-processing rooms lightproof. If you borrow ideas from their tried-and-true methods (basically a thick black screening around the doorframes or any open light points) then you will have a great space for flowering plants. You should be a long way towards achieving this already if you followed the advice on covering your grow room with Mylar. If you have prevented any light from leaking out, then you should also have prevented light from leaking in.

Problems with 12/12
If you switch to 12/12 before pre-flowers have shown, you may encounter the following problems:
1. Stress-related sex problems (hermaphrodites)
2. Abnormal bud growth

Stress-related Sex Problems (Hermaphrodites)
Stress-related sex problems might produce hermaphrodite plants. The stress of what's sometimes called early flowering triggers the plant into a situation where it thinks its chances of reproduction are slim to none. That situation induces a condition or act of self-pollination, in which the plant produces both male and female flowers on the same plant. The male flowers then pollinate the female flowers, which eventually produce seeds.
The reason for this is that the plant notices that the photoperiod is irregular* and should no longer be in the vegetative growth stage but in flowering. This shocks the plant into a last ditch effort to receive pollen because it feels that it's missed its chance to receive pollen already. In the wild, males release their pollen just around the time that females begin to flower.

This is what hermaphrodites look like. Notice that bolh male pollen pods and female pistils are present on the plant. Picture by Rasta Linus.

Hermies cause problems because they may carry the hermaphrodite trait with their offspring. Genetically the hermie condition is near impossible to reverse once started. Sometimes even plants from the hermaphrodite's offspring that did not display the hermaphrodite condition can still carry the hermie trait to future offspring. If you ever see all-female seeds advertised by seed banks you have the right to know whether or not these seeds come from female plants that were stressed into producing male flowers. In general, growers try to avoid hermie plants because they spoil sinsemilla crops and breeding projects.

Abnormal Bud Growth
Abnormal bud growth is a side effect of the hermaphrodite condition. Because the
plant produces male pollen sacks with female flowers you may notice that the bud
looks different. Also, the quantity of female bud produced is decreased because of
pollination.

Early-induced flowering* isn't the same thing as forcing your plants to flower. If you force flower a strain before it has pre-flowered it will flower at roughly the same time as a plant from the same strain that has been flowered after calyx development has occurred naturally. Force flowering simply acts by stressing the plant into a crisis condition.
You will get the best out of your plant by waiting until it starts pre-flowering before switching to 12/12.

Keep feeding and watering your plant as normal. Pay attention to the flowering areas as they begin to grow. At this stage you may want to switch to your flowering feeds. Soon you'll be able to see your plant's sex.

Pre-Flowering for the 24/0 and the 18/6 photoperiods Both under the 24/0 photoperiod and the 18/6 photoperiod cannabis plants will undergo calyx development when mature enough to do so. In the case of the 18/6 photoperiod calyx development may appear more pronounced and even display its sex earlier than the 24/0 photoperiod.

It is easier to keep a plant in vegetative growth by using the 24/0 photoperiod because there are no dark periods. If you keep the plants under 18/6 the pre-flowering phase increase may cause a slow down in vegetative growth. Although pre-flowering under 18/6 does not cause flowering it certainly contributes to a decrease in vegetative activity. As soon as you go down to less than 14 hours of light the plant will normally start to flower. 12/12 is the best light regime for flowering and can be introduced as soon as calyx development appears.

THE MALE/FEMALE THING OR HOWTO SEX YOUR PLANTS
You now have nurtured your plants and watched them grow in the hope that you'l get some high-yield females in the end. If you end up without any female plant: out of all of your seeds then send the seed bank a letter explaining how 15 out o 15 seeds were male. If you're lucky and sincere in your writing, the seed bank ma; send you some free seeds or give you a discount on your next order. Seed bank: or breeders aren't responsible for male/female ratios. It simply isn't under thei control. Some people get 100 percent females while others get 100 percen males, but it is rare that such a thing will happen. To get five or more females ii a pack of 15* is a good ratio.

MALE FLOWERING
Males do not need a photoperiod to spread pollen. As soon as calyx development shows male flowers may appear within a few days under the 24/0,18/6 or 12/12 photoperiods. Male flowers grow more vigorously and plentiful under the 12/12 photoperiod.
A male plant will continue to flower for the remainder of its flowering period developing new calyx formations and male flowers. It can take anywhere between 12 hours and one week from calyx development for male flowers to appear and shed their pollen. It is very important to separate the males from the females as early as possible if you are growing a sinsemilla crop. In general males usually appear before females.

Pollen can easily be collected as described in Chapter 15. You can also gather falling pollen using a white sheet of paper placed in between the plant stem on the top of the pot. All fans must be turned off if you want to collect pollen this way. Fans will only blow pollen around your grow room.

Female plants can be pollinated at any time but are best pollinated between 15 and 30 days into their flowering period. Plants that are pollinated less than three weeks before harvest may result in immature seeds although plants pollinated two weeks before harvest have been known to produce seeds mature enough for germination.

FLOWERING
If all has gone well and you've cared for your plants, they will now enter the flowering stage of the life cycle. You will remove the males and should have a number of females to work with. This is going to be the most important time you'll spend taking care of your plants.

The male plant produces pollen sacks, which, when ripe, burst and scatter pollen to the female plants.The female plant produces white hairs at the internodes and top cola (head) of the plant during flowering. These hairs (pistils) begin to curl slightly and grow longer and thicker. The top cola should carry the most pistils. These pistils are sticky to touch (don't touch them too much as they also contain the sought-after THC), and become covered in resin during the flowering period. The reason for their stickiness is that the pistils are used by the female to catch falling pollen. If the female plant isn't pollinated she'll try to grow more sticky areas. Hence the results of a sinsemilla crop ...bigger and better buds.

During the strict 12/12 cycle, a female plant will fill out more. More leaves, more branches and more flowers develop until eventually, plants reach a peak period of flowering. Your plant will start to almost take the shape of a Christmas tree. The lower fan leaves will be stretched to the maximum in order to receive the most light. Running upward in a cone shape the plant will exhibit strong floral and leaf development.
During the peak period of flowering, the female pistils on the flower's tips will swell. When the swelling occurs, the pistils will begin to change in color. They'll generally change from a white to an orange tint or from a red to a brown tint. All strains are different but in general it's a white to red or a red to brown color change. It's best to use the breeder's recommended flowering times for harvest guidelines. When your plants do this you're ready to harvest and sample your favorite herb. Each strain has its own flowering times and each strain may also have a different color tint when they reach a flowering peak.

end of excerpt

[barry buds]

I didn't know you changed your light cycle. Mine did it with out the change on their own, and I'm still vegging(hopefully my new flower room is done tommorrow!). I dont understand why you changed the light cycle in the first place?someone told me that weed had to be grown 15 days 16\8 then gradually change the time to 12\12 over the next 15 days. then 60 days 12\12. the change to 8\16 a couple weeks before harvest.:confused:

these pics i just took a few seconds ago. what do you think for a flowering female. [attachment=o112573]

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if you zoom on the second 2 pics you can see some pistils.:rastasmoke:

:jointsmile:

:D :rasta:

anyone with any thoughts.:jointsmile:

[midlifecrisis]

Don't worry Barry, your girl will be ok...she looks good so far.

I am currently running an experiment with 12/12 lighting from seedling to harvest...(mostly out of curiosity if lowryder plants are worth it)

Here's some pics at 6 weeks...If you are using CFL's get them as close as possible without touching....Good luck to ya!

[kindprincess]

did you read the info i put up there?

[barry buds]

Don't worry Barry, your girl will be ok...she looks good so far.

I am currently running an experiment with 12/12 lighting from seedling to harvest...(mostly out of curiosity if lowryder plants are worth it)

Here's some pics at 6 weeks...If you are using CFL's get them as close as possible without touching....Good luck to ya! nice plants. i am using the same lights you have in the pics. 42 watt flourecent. 2700 lumens

[barry buds]

did you read the info i put up there?yes i did thanks i was very helpful. i am letting my plant flower. i have changed the time to 12\12.

[kindprincess]

good, good. glad to hear it. look into getting some super bloom or other super phosphate, and some backstrap molasses to make those buds get big. also, if you can get more light, you realy, realy need to do so... trust me, more light, more weight...

kp

[barry buds]

good, good. glad to hear it. look into getting some super bloom or other super phosphate, and some backstrap molasses to make those buds get big. also, if you can get more light, you realy, realy need to do so... trust me, more light, more weight...

kp about that molasses. what do you have to do with the molasses to make bigger buds. pluse i can run 3 more lights if you think i need to. that would be 168 watts of flourecent light which is equal to 600 watts.

[Volker]

Dont worry about it. Every plant I've ever grown stretched tremendously during bud.

It's possible that your plant is showing sex and flowering early because it's Lowryder. But that's just an off-the-wall guess.

[barry buds]

Dont worry about it. Every plant I've ever grown stretched tremendously during bud.

It's possible that your plant is showing sex and flowering early because it's Lowryder. But that's just an off-the-wall guess.isnt lowrider a sativa. my plant is showing indica gene's with its wide short leaves.

[barry buds]

i am going to take pics and note times to see how long it takes from seed to harvest with this plant. and see how much bud i get. i will keep posting pics here or you can check out my web site. www.freewebs.com/barrys_beautiful_cannabis_plant

[barry buds]

sign my guestbook:rasta:

[Volker]

isnt lowrider a sativa. Nope. It's (based on) a mexican ruderallis. But all the Lowryder threads I've seen have the squat indica-like leaves.

EDIT: In these days, leaf shape & plant structure is no longer any use to tell if it's indica, sativa, ruderallis, or a hybrid.

[barry buds]

Nope. It's (based on) a mexican ruderallis. But all the Lowryder threads I've seen have the squat indica-like leaves.

EDIT: In these days, leaf shape & plant structure is no longer any use to tell if it's indica, sativa, ruderallis, or a hybrid.i didnt know that. i thought tou could make a definate indentification from the shape of the leaves. well this seed came from my little brother, and the dealers around here dont tell you what strain of weed you are getting so if you get a seed, it becomes a question mark plant. meaning what the fuck is it. i guess i will never know becouse i dont know how to tell if it is a lowryder or an ak47 or a white widow and so on and so on.:stoned:

[Bree1978]

then you have what we call bagseed. lol. You probably don't have a lowryder...they flower automatically, without changing the dark period. B

[barry buds]

then you have what we call bagseed. lol. You probably don't have a lowryder...they flower automatically, without changing the dark period. Byeah my brother said that the bud he got it from was really good, i hope mine turnes out good. probably just a late grower. mabye it will hit a growth spurt in a week or so.

[barry buds]

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these are new pics taken just now.

[barry buds]

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these are new pics taken just now. she is 160mm now or 16cm.:jointsmile:

[budsmoker only]

they look nice, and its good that you changed it to 12/12... if your worried about yeild, id look into lst'ing that plant.. im not sure if its to late now or not, but if it isnt you should definitely look into it..

[Volker]

Yep. Looks good to me, too. And looking at those shots, it's defo not Lowryder. It does look like an indica heavy strain; and most commercial crops are indica heavy, cuzza the shorter flowering period, and better response to light changes. So chances are the regular "indica patterns" would apply.

[barry buds]

they look nice, and its good that you changed it to 12/12... if your worried about yeild, id look into lst'ing that plant.. im not sure if its to late now or not, but if it isnt you should definitely look into it..what is lst'ing and how do i do it.

[barry buds]

sorry if i have no idea what some of you are telling me. i am a first time grower. i have read some stuff on the net, but i have no idea what most of the terms mean. i did top my plant about 3 days agojust above the top two grow tips. i will take a pic of the very top to show.

[budsmoker only]

http://www.planetskunk.com/cannabis2335.html
theres a link that will explain it.. but basically its a method of growing, where you tie down the plant so that the light will spread out more evenly

[barry buds]

[attachment=o112690] if you zoom you can see clearly where i cut the top off with a razorblade.

[barry buds]

http://www.planetskunk.com/cannabis2335.html
theres a link that will explain it.. but basically its a method of growing, where you tie down the plant so that the light will spread out more evenlyok thanks i will try that

[barry buds]

well i didnt tie it down at the top becouse i already chopped it of. but i did tie down the leaves so it can get more light at the new grow tips as you can see, they will get lots of light.[attachment=o112713]

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[barry buds]

i noticed as i was tieing the leaves down that she is producing a nice pungient smell.like a woodsy skunk.

[budsmoker only]

looks good to me, just keep on doing what your doing and keep us updated on it

[barry buds]

looks good to me, just keep on doing what your doing and keep us updated on itsure will. thanks for your help.

[Volker]

what is lst'ing and how do i do it.Water the plant well, and bend it. I use xmas ornament hangers instead of string. The trunk of this plant is LST'd into a compact "C" about 5" high. Straight up, the plant would be about 14". I topped the plant at the top end of the "C".

[barry buds]

ok i see now thanks. nice pics to.

[barry buds]

well i just finnished changing my light setup from 1 flouro putting out 42 watts equal to 150 standard watts. to a setup with one 42 and three 15's. that equals 330 standard watts. on payday i am changing the 15's to 42's so i will be getting over 600 standard watts from 4 42 watt flouros'

[barry buds]

i think i am doing pretty good for a first time grower. most first timers end up with males or really unhealthy plants.

[barry buds]

i beat the statistics and got my plant to begin flowering after 20 days from seed.

[barry buds]

im learning as i am growing

[barry buds]

and now i am really fucking stoned.:stoned: :D

[barry buds]

how do you change your country anyways. i live in canada not the USA

[barry buds]

how do you change your country anyways. i live in canada not the USAdont worry i found it

[barry buds]

like my avitar. i think the female pistil is the most beautiful thing in the world.

[barry buds]

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[attachment=o113119] does anyone think i should cut all the leaves of my plant so all the effort goes into growing the grow tips. their are 4 sets of grow tips an 2 tops becouse i topped it about 4 days ago and the 2 tops are startong to grow now.

[Volker]

does anyone think i should cut all the leaves of my plant so all the effort goes into growing the grow tips.Nope. Think of those leaves as a snack bar for the branches. Also, they'll tell ya stuff about what your plant's doing later down the line. I.e., late in bud when the big bottom leaves start getting eaten up (by the plant) and falling off, you'll know harvest time is just around the corner.

[barry buds]

Nope. Think of those leaves as a snack bar for the branches. Also, they'll tell ya stuff about what your plant's doing later down the line. I.e., late in bud when the big bottom leaves start getting eaten up (by the plant) and falling off, you'll know harvest time is just around the corner.is that when i have to change the light cycle to 8 hrs light and 16 hrs dark.

[kindprincess]

you don't have to change the light cycle at all. 12/12, that's it. simple. yet effective... reitterated, DO NOT change the light cycle. just let her flower babe...

kp

[latewood]

yop...You screwed the pooch running 13/11! that is a flowering photoperiod, now I agree with KP. You need to just put nher in flower at 12/12 or you can put her back to 13/11, but DO NOT try to re-veg her!!!

budsmoker is right. you have a female...one thing you coud do that would help you out in a couple months... Go down below the next set of noes below the top and top her...root the top for a mom or just a clone that will be ready in 11-12 weeks

[barry buds]

ok then i will not touch the time anymore. but in three days i get payed and i will but 3 more lights to up the watts to 600. should i keep feeding her 24-8-16 for a little longer or should i pick up a high phosphate fertilizer right away to feed her.

[barry buds]

ok then i will not touch the time anymore. but in three days i get payed and i will but 3 more lights to up the watts to 600. should i keep feeding her 24-8-16 for a little longer or should i pick up a high phosphate fertilizer right away to feed her.i was also thinking becouse i have a self watering pot. should i keep using the high nitrogen fert in the bottom and spray the top of the soil and leaves with the high phosphate fert.

[latewood]

just water for a few days and watch the plant...In a week if she looks nice and healthy...change to bloom ferts. easy on the ferts...don't burn'em

[barry buds]

she is growing fast now . up to 200mm or 20cm or 8 inchs.

[barry buds]

now just so i have this correct. when the plant eats up the bottom leaves and they fall off is that when i stop fertilizing and give it just plain water. so the buds dont taste like fertilizer.

[barry buds]

any answers

[barry buds]

i was meaning to ask, my brother got a seed from a bag of weed and it is green. is it any good. he said he tried to squeeze it and it never poped. or are green seeds bad.

[barry buds]

can anyone answer me on the last post

[Chronic Chrissy]

No I can't answer that but what's the harm if you try anyways? You got nothing to lose and possibly a nice yeild to gain, give it a shot.

[barry buds]

No I can't answer that but what's the harm if you try anyways? You got nothing to lose and possibly a nice yeild to gain, give it a shot.yeah why not. i will give it a shot.

[barry buds]

unless someone else thinks i shouldnt.
someone who knows about seeds.

[barry buds]

i will search the net to see what i can find.

[kindprincess]

never know until you try... beans are funny... even immature seeds can germinate.

[barry buds]

never know until you try... beans are funny... even immature seeds can germinate.yeah i am going to give it a shot and see. it cant hurt to try

[barry buds]

i will take some new pics tomorrow and post them.

[latewood]

good, good. glad to hear it. look into getting some super bloom or other super phosphate, and some backstrap molasses to make those buds get big. also, if you can get more light, you realy, realy need to do so... trust me, more light, more weight...

kpphosphates cause stretching...you need a high potassium based booster. not a alot of phosphates...

I am getting ready to try hammerhead by AN...they took canna pk 13/14 and improved on the formula, claiming taking phosphates away and adding more potassium made it a much stronger formula. peace

[latewood]

isnt lowrider a sativa. my plant is showing indica gene's with its wide short leaves.
ruderalis...I think I spelled that right.

Sativa do not respond as quickly to flowering photoperiod, and ruderalis is what was used to breed lowryders by crossing ruderalis with sativ' and indica'...

Why would you think that a auto-flowering "ditchweed" (ruderalis) would be the same as the long vegging, slow flowering of a sativ'?

that is the problem around here sometimes...people start seeds before they have read the proper amount of grow info.

This is why I am not a big fan of copy/pasting long articles from books to the forums. In my experience most don't read them, finding them too overwhelming. New growers need to read up on cultivation, but about 90% do not, and that is why we have the forum. Sorry aobut the rant, but I can't believe some of the un-educated guesses that members post, when they don't know.

Zandor taught me something early on...If you look at a post and the members are on the right track...let it go. NO need to post. If members have got it right, but have 2-3 other "sketchy" answers, then clarify the correct posting. Then htere are the cases of all the newbs gathering and spreding 1/2 truths aobut growing, and that is when we MOds stick our big NOse in.

Read up on your favorite plant if you plan on continuing to grow it. KNow what you are doing...It will save you and everyone invlolved in teaching you alot of time and misunderstanding. Have a great day LW

[barry buds]

ruderalis...I think I spelled that right.

Sativa do not respond as quickly to flowering photoperiod, and ruderalis is what was used to breed lowryders by crossing ruderalis with sativ' and indica'...

Why would you think that a auto-flowering "ditchweed" (ruderalis) would be the same as the long vegging, slow flowering of a sativ'?

that is the problem around here sometimes...people start seeds before they have read the proper amount of grow info.

This is why I am not a big fan of copy/pasting long articles from books to the forums. In my experience most don't read them, finding them too overwhelming. New growers need to read up on cultivation, but about 90% do not, and that is why we have the forum. Sorry aobut the rant, but I can't believe some of the un-educated guesses that members post, when they don't know.

Zandor taught me something early on...If you look at a post and the members are on the right track...let it go. NO need to post. If members have got it right, but have 2-3 other "sketchy" answers, then clarify the correct posting. Then htere are the cases of all the newbs gathering and spreding 1/2 truths aobut growing, and that is when we MOds stick our big NOse in.

Read up on your favorite plant if you plan on continuing to grow it. KNow what you are doing...It will save you and everyone invlolved in teaching you alot of time and misunderstanding. Have a great day LW i hope you are not complaining about me becouse i dont think i have done anything wrong. i have stated that i am a first time grower. i have read up on weed and their reaction to different light. that is why i have about 81 watts of flourecent light on them. and as i stated also is that i am growing a bag seed that came from my brother, so i have no idea what i am growing. the only thing i know is that indica's have wide leaves and sativas have long skinny leaves. i never new their was a 3rd species of weed called ruderalis. all i have been doing is asking questions and posting pics.:(

[barry buds]

the fert that i am using dont have any potassium. now i know why my plant has'nt been growing really tall like everyone elses, my fert has 24% nitrogen, 8% phosphate, and 16% soluble potash. everyone else recomends to use a fert with 20-20-20. oh and mine has EDTA(chelating agent)(minimum) 1.2% is that good or bad. and thanks latewood for clarifing that i need high potassium not phosphate.

[barry buds]

here are some new pics i took today. since i changed the light to 12\12 and she has recovered from being topped in only 4 days and added 3 more flouros she has grown about 4 inches, and the new tips are growing about 1 inch a day.[attachment=o113440]

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[barry buds]

haha my fience just came in and pointed to me that i have half her face in the top pic. she gave me a smack

[barry buds]

i will post the actual pic so you can see my beautiful fience.

[barry buds]

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[brookerosebud]

the fert that i am using dont have any potassium. now i know why my plant has'nt been growing really tall like everyone elses, my fert has 24% nitrogen, 8% phosphate, and 16% soluble potash. everyone else recomends to use a fert with 20-20-20. oh and mine has EDTA(chelating agent)(minimum) 1.2% is that good or bad. and thanks latewood for clarifing that i need high potassium not phosphate.

you are using the wrong ferts. miracle gro right? wrong stuff, get some green light super bloom, or any other super phosphate... you want lots of phos in flower, with little nitrogen...

GET SOME FLOWER FERTS...and add a tbs of molasses per gl...

love, brooke

[barry buds]

ok hold on people i am getting confused. i have a moderator telling me that i need potassium not phosphate. everyone else is telling me to use high phosphate not potassium. who is right and who is wrong. i need an answer becouse i am flowering as you can see from the pics.

[brookerosebud]

i swear to god, babe, you need a high phosphate fert for flower. pot ash is helpful, but a high phos fert will make your buds gro super huge... there's a realy good article in kp's cannabis college, but i don't know where the thread is, and i'm too stoned to search. trust me...

green light's super bloom 12-55-6... or maybe it's 12-55-12 can't remember, but it is the best flower product i've used in the last 10 years...

love, brooke

[keeko]

beautiful fiance....lucky man:thumbsup:

[brookerosebud]

n-p-k

nitrogen-phosphorous-mag/potash(aka potassium)

[barry buds]

i swear to god, babe, you need a high phosphate fert for flower. pot ash is helpful, but a high phos fert will make your buds gro super huge... there's a realy good article in kp's cannabis college, but i don't know where the thread is, and i'm too stoned to search. trust me...

green light's super bloom 12-55-6... or maybe it's 12-55-12 can't remember, but it is the best flower product i've used in the last 10 years...

love, brookeok but i dont know if i can find any in this town. i looked everywhere for HID,MH,HPS lights but cant find any so i went with flouros plus i read that flouros have the best lumen to watt ratio plus they have a much better light spectrum.

[barry buds]

beautiful fiance....lucky man:thumbsup:thanks dud:jointsmile:

[brookerosebud]

ok, that was my way...

if latewood says to use a high k value, then trust him. not me... i gro goodwith super bloom, but late is one of my mentors and idols. i totally and completely trust him, and you should too.

sorry for my 2 pennies...

brooke

[brookerosebud]

but, if you want super bloom, just go to lowes garden section. i still say it works wonders...

[barry buds]

ok, that was my way...

if latewood says to use a high k value, then trust him. not me... i gro goodwith super bloom, but late is one of my mentors and idols. i totally and completely trust him, and you should too.

sorry for my 2 pennies...

brookeOK! i guess i will go with the potassium then or should i get something high in both and low in nitrogen. or is nitro needed juring flower.

[barry buds]

but, if you want super bloom, just go to lowes garden section. i still say it works wonders...we dont have a lowes here i had to get my fert from canadian tire. walmart didnt even have any.

[brookerosebud]

please keep us updated, i realy want to know how the high potassium works for you... i may just change my whole system...

love, brooke

[brookerosebud]

hmmm, any feed and seed should have some form of super phosphate...

[barry buds]

hmmm, any feed and seed should have some form of super phosphate...canadian tire had 6 different flowering ferts last time i was there. that was about 1 month ago when i started growing and bought my high nitro fert

[brookerosebud]

nitrogen based ferts should be used in veg...

[barry buds]

nitrogen based ferts should be used in veg... sorry i never had a veg. went from seed to flower in 20 days. i think it was still a seedling.

[brookerosebud]

... that proves that you can go 12-12 from the start. i'm interested in your yeild...

[barry buds]

... that proves that you can go 12-12 from the start. i'm interested in your yeild...actually what happened is, i started with 16\8 and after 15 days i gradually changed the cycle to 13\11, not knowing that that would trigger early flowering. then i had no choice but to change to 12\12. had 13\11 for 5 days then pistils apeared. i was told to go to 12\12 and flower instead of going back to 16\8 to force veg. now i have about 20 or 30 pistils after 11 days of 12\12.

[brookerosebud]

pix?

[brookerosebud]

sorry, but can you get closer pix? i have trouble sometimes (like when i don't have my contacts in...)

[barry buds]

im not expecting a very big yield. mabye an ounce or 2 but what do i now im just a first time grower.

[barry buds]

sorry, but can you get closer pix? i have trouble sometimes (like when i don't have my contacts in...)i can try. the damn focus isnt working right on my cam. it will get perfact focus then zoom out of focus just as the pic is being taken.

[barry buds]

here are some. i circled all the pistils that you can see in the pics.[attachment=o113496]

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[brookerosebud]

if you realy want to kick up the yeild, tie her head down to the side of the pot. all of the side branches will begin to grow like individual plants, and all will have colas ;)

just a suggestion...

love, brooke

[barry buds]

if you realy want to kick up the yeild, tie her head down to the side of the pot. all of the side branches will begin to grow like individual plants, and all will have colas ;)

just a suggestion...

love, brooke
i was thinking about doing that. now i think i will. i will take some pics after i tie it down to see what you think.

[barry buds]

what is the best thing to do with the leftovers after harvest. make hash or oil. and how much of the leftovers can you use. i love oil and hash.

[barry buds]

finnished. but during the LST'ing process i broke off one of the bottom leaves, i trimmed the branch back with a rasorblade. loosing that leaf wont hurt it to bad will it.[attachment=o113500]

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[barry buds]

now i have 6 tips facing upwards. i dont know how well the bottom 2 tips are going to do.

[barry buds]

here is a nice pic with a view of 3 of the 4 lights. changing the smaller 13 watt bulbs for 3 more of the big 42 watt bulbs. they put out like 2700 lumen each.[attachment=o113513]

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[barry buds]

168 flourecent watts equal 10800 lumen's that should be enough for 1 small plant should'nt it.

[barry buds]

the last 2 messages had errors the 42 watt flouro has 3200 lumen. that means that with 4 of those i get 12800 lumen.

[Chronic Chrissy]

finnished. but during the LST'ing process i broke off one of the bottom leaves, i trimmed the branch back with a rasorblade. loosing that leaf wont hurt it to bad will it.[attachment=o113500]

[attachment=o113501]:rasta: :rasta: :pimp:

Next time this happens don't use a razor blade. A razor makes a clean cut that is harder for the plant to seal off. Next time pinch it before the break enought for it to flop over and just hang there. Later on you can pinch it off the rest of the way. It causes less stres to the plant and the plant uses less energy on repairing itself and more on production.;) But your plant should recover.

[barry buds]

Next time this happens don't use a razor blade. A razor makes a clean cut that is harder for the plant to seal off. Next time pinch it before the break enought for it to flop over and just hang there. Later on you can pinch it off the rest of the way. It causes less stres to the plant and the plant uses less energy on repairing itself and more on production.;) But your plant should recover.thanks for the tip. their is still enough there that i can still pinch the tip if the branch.

[barry buds]

well she is comming along great. most of the tips are facing straight up. the top was straight up to but i just moved the top wire to a higher position to give it move of a curve.[attachment=o113614]

[attachment=o113615]what do you think. not to much is it.

[barry buds]

more pic's just taken.

[barry buds]

some top views.[attachment=o113619]

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[barry buds]

these are some pics of the roots. i have a self watering pot, it has a reservoir in the bottom that i keep filled with water. the roots love it. [attachment=o113621]

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[barry buds]

getting my new light and some big bloom fert today.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Another tip. Most plants love to be watered then given a chance to dry out a bit. I bet you if you only watered when you stuck your finger in the soil and it was almost dry she would grow a bit faster.

[barry buds]

got a big problem. last night the light hanger broke and the lights fell on my plant and kinked it just up from the bottom leaves. i taped it and proped it up with a cig pack. will it recover.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Depends on the kink and exactly where it is, and how bad it is. You need pics up here now of the damaged area, what's below it and what's above.

[barry buds]

i will take a pic and post it. i dont want to remove the tape becouse it is helping to support it i think. i just removed the empty cig pack that i was using to help prop it up a couple min ago, it is standing on its own right now. it has grown about 1 1\2 inch's overnight. and it has flowered alot since i put the new fert in it yesterday. the new fert i got is. SCHULTZ bloom builder 10-54-10. is this a good bud building fert.

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[attachment=o113858] see close to the bottom but she is supporting herself now so she is getting stronger.

[brookerosebud]

it'll be fine. lol, why do all noobs drop lights on their plants?

don't worry, it should be healed already; my lst in flower method is to "crack" the stem so the branch lies over... 4 hours later, everything is pointed upward, and the wound is healed and hard.

[barry buds]

it'll be fine. lol, why do all noobs drop lights on their plants?

don't worry, it should be healed already; my lst in flower method is to "crack" the stem so the branch lies over... 4 hours later, everything is pointed upward, and the wound is healed and hard.right on. thank you dear i was getting worried untill i got home and seen it has grown. hat to make sure thought.

no prob sweetie, anything else? she's looking good; how long has she been flowering now?

that light can be blinding sometimes. here is a nice pic of my lights. i love what the cam does to the lights. they are 42 watt flouro's

you can see some dirt from when it landed in my pot. she has been flowering for about 5 or 6 days or so give or take a day.[attachment=o113859]

[brookerosebud]

and the fun begins in a week....

[barry buds]

and the fun begins in a week....what happens in a week.

[barry buds]

starting to smell more like cannabis now then pine.

i just took some nice pics of the flower i will post them as soon as i get them on the computer.

nothin new today, just a small bit of growth

she is 9 inch's tall in her LST'ed form with 6 tops (level across the top.) i should get between 8 and 10 top colas at harvest. i hope anyways.

does anyone think 10-54-10 is a good bud builder.


they gro fro's... :Ddid you see the pics. i think they are already growing fro's

"they gro fro's..."

... you'll see what i mean... maybe more like two weeks.

[barry buds]

here are some. [attachment=o113860]

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[barry buds]

here are some more. [attachment=o113865]

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[barry buds]

these are fucked up. [attachment=o113879]

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[barry buds]

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[attachment=o113889] more pics

[brookerosebud]

what happens in a week.

they gro fro's... :D

[barry buds]

ok yeah i guess mine are still really small.

[latewood]

Nothing personal...just cleaning up.

[barry buds]

Nothing personal...just cleaning up.cleaning up what.

[latewood]

someone told me that weed had to be grown 15 days 16\8 then gradually change the time to 12\12 over the next 15 days. then 60 days 12\12. the change to 8\16 a couple weeks before harvest.:confused:

these pics i just took a few seconds ago. what do you think for a flowering female. [attachment=o112573]

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if you zoom on the second 2 pics you can see some pistils.:rastasmoke:Hey bro...I have tried decreasing times like this and someone might've read one of my posts and misconstrued it to you!:smokin: What I sais, was to change the photoperiod one hour every 2 weeks..i.e.
start veg*...16/8 for 2weeks, 15/9 until 4 weeks old, 14/10 until 6 weeks old, 13/11 until 2 months old...time to flower at 12/12
*veg. does not start when sprout pokes up. days 1 of veg count starts when plant has 4-5 alternating nodes/true sets of leaves.

now with clones...you actually veg* for only 2 weeks (again*) so the formula you posted, worked out vegging 2 weeks, then you changed photoperiod to 12/12.

I am sure many will benefit from this thread...peace:smokin:

[barry buds]

Hey bro...I have tried decreasing times like this and someone might've read one of my posts and misconstrued it to you!:smokin: What I sais, was to change the photoperiod one hour every 2 weeks..i.e.
start veg*...16/8 for 2weeks, 15/9 until 4 weeks old, 14/10 until 6 weeks old, 13/11 until 2 months old...time to flower at 12/12
*veg. does not start when sprout pokes up. days 1 of veg count starts when plant has 4-5 alternating nodes/true sets of leaves.

now with clones...you actually veg* for only 2 weeks (again*) so the formula you posted, worked out vegging 2 weeks, then you changed photoperiod to 12/12.

I am sure many will benefit from this thread...peace:smokin:thankyou very much now i know better for the next grow. the info i got came from a buddie of mine, mabye he seen your post or not but i shouldnt have listened to him i should have came here and asked some experienced growers.

[latewood]

about that molasses. what do you have to do with the molasses to make bigger buds. pluse i can run 3 more lights if you think i need to. that would be 168 watts of flourecent light which is equal to 600 watts.Light "em...If you Got 'em!:D Uncle woody/says, "always use as much light as possible if you have the ability to keep your temps in control":smokin:

[latewood]

thankyou very much now i know better for the next grow. the info i got came from a buddie of mine, mabye he seen your post or not but i shouldnt have listened to him i should have came here and asked some experienced growers.Cool thanks. listen... a couple more things popped into my head when I read this again...
1st, when I mentioned the start of veg...for me; when I transfer from little starter pot to veg pot at least one gallon, but this time I put a seedling right into a 3 gallon..so no transplant is needed and, I must say that despite teachings to the contrary...She's looking good. The proofs in the pudding. Will have to see how she finishes.

[latewood]

I hope you don't go toxic with that 10-54-10. go ahead and read up on flushing...just in case. Don't freak! I am just letting you in on the next potential problen and what would be the 1st aid.

To flush a potted plant: Run correctly ph'd water through pot until at least 3-4 times the pot capacity has been flushed. i.e. if using 2 gallon pot...flush until you have gone through 6 gallons of water...In some instances of severe toxic shock, repot in quality fresh sterile or organic soil and water only...

Now you will be ready if you have a problem in the future.:smokin:

[barry buds]

Cool thanks. listen... a couple more things popped into my head when I read this again...
1st, when I mentioned the start of veg...for me; when I transfer from little starter pot to veg pot at least one gallon, but this time I put a seedling right into a 3 gallon..so no transplant is needed and, I must say that despite teachings to the contrary...She's looking good. The proofs in the pudding. Will have to see how she finishes.you know what. i started mine in the pot it is in now, i am going from seed to bud in the same pot under 4 42 watt cfl's. here are some pics. she is doing great. who ever said that you have to start in a small pot and transplant to a larger pot later just wanted to make things harder i think.

[barry buds]

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[invision]

hey barry,

i use those same nutes by peters, its very strong so start using only 1/8th strength right now and only use it 2x a week at most.

if after a week she looks great move it to 1/4 strength and so on until you reach 50/50.

you plants look good so far but your going to need PH up using those nutes, any pet store carrys PH up in the aquarium section, its good idea to give your plants a good flush every 3 weeks or so during flower to rid of excess salts and other build up, when you flush use just plain water.

[barry buds]

hey barry,

i use those same nutes by peters, its very strong so start using only 1/8th strength right now and only use it 2x a week at most.

if after a week she looks great move it to 1/4 strength and so on until you reach 50/50.

you plants look good so far but your going to need PH up using those nutes, any pet store carrys PH up in the aquarium section, its good idea to give your plants a good flush every 3 weeks or so during flower to rid of excess salts and other build up, when you flush use just plain water.i am using the old water out of my fish tank to bring the ph up becouse my fish require a higher ph level. plus their are some great nutes in old fish water. with my nutes i have been mixing 1\4 tsp with 2 1/2 L of water. got my first big bottle gone. soon going to mix somemore. a little stronger this time i think. she is taking the nutes very well.

[barry buds]

[attachment=o114269]this was taken at day 26 before adding nutes.
[attachment=o114270]this was taken at day 28 first day of adding 10-54-10.
[attachment=o114271]this was taken today day 30. the nutes are working and she loves them. i have not had any problems with over watering or over feeding yet. my only major problems were fucking up the light cycle causing her to flower after 20 days, and droping the light's on her and cracking her stem. aside from all that i should be ready to harvest in about 2 to 3 months, then 1 to 2 months of drying. i am going to add some pure grape extract to the plant in some water about 1 hour before i harvest so i get a nice grape flavor when i smoke.

[barry buds]

i am going to see if i can get some closeup's of the forming colas.

[barry buds]

i got some nice ones and some blurry ones. [attachment=o114272]

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[barry buds]

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[barry buds]

it is 1:42 pm here on sunday jan 21st and it is day 30 of my grow. i skipped the veg stage and went from seed to seedling to flower in 20 days. she is LST'ed. she stands 9 inch's at her highest tip. if not staightened she would stand 12 inch. her highest tip isnt the two tops it is the secondary branches just below the top 2.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I know how you feel about the cracked stem, I just sliced the top 3" off my Northern today, lol, I felt so bad man, especially be cause wel just switched to the flower room yesterday. Things are lookin good though. The first grow is a real learning experience I find. I haven't had any major fuck ups but I do have improvements to make for next time.

So if you get a good yeild this time think of how much better it'll be next time knowing what you know.

[barry buds]

yeah i know eh. well i am hoping for a good yeild. i have 8 to 10 tips to get colas from.

[barry buds]

so what does everyone think of the pics of my forming buds.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Looks good. I just started flowing so it's kinda cool to se someone a step aheadof me to know what to expect.

[barry buds]

Looks good. I just started flowing so it's kinda cool to se someone a step aheadof me to know what to expect.i hope yours and mine turn out big and sticky.

[barry buds]

has anyone ever smoked the legal bud that they sell here. i think that if it is legal now it cant be that great. i could be wrong.

[barry buds]

decided to flush the soil in my plant lastnight. gave her about 300 ml of fresh water(added chlorine remover to the water a couple hours before using) we have alot of chlorine in our drinking water. i sprayed the leaves with old fishwater. will add another 300 ml of fresh water in a couple days. then go back on the ferts.

[barry buds]

she is growing nicely. all her secondary branches are growing even with the two tops. they are growing at a rate of about a half inch to an inch a day. the flower patches are all over and they are getting bigger everyday. i would take a pic but she is in her dark cycle right now. my GF is going to watch her for a couple days while i am away at work so i will put some new pics on when i get back on friday.

[barry buds]

[attachment=o114644] this has to be the green'est buds i have ever bought. it is not bad stuff. i have had way better. but for $40 i got a decent bag.

[barry buds]

[attachment=o114644] this has to be the green'est buds i have ever bought. it is not bad stuff. i have had way better. but for $40 i got a decent bag.has alot of immature seeds to.

[TheBudBuster]

"it'll be fine. lol, why do all noobs drop lights on their plants?.."

Happened to me a few times too> :)

Love this thread..

Keep up the good work..
Peace
TBB

[barry buds]

just got back today and got some new pics i took a few hours ago. would have posted them earlyer but had to take my fience to a movie.

[barry buds]

i hope you all like the pics, i know i loved it when i got home from a week out of town to see the nice bud growth.
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[TheBudBuster]

very nice...

Keep it Green...

PEace

[Chronic Chrissy]

Everythings looking pretty good. I just started flowering last week and can't wait to see itty bitty bud. I'm a little forgetful could you post the age of your plants and how long in flower when you post pics? If not that's fine. Keep up the good work.

[barry buds]

Everythings looking pretty good. I just started flowering last week and can't wait to see itty bitty bud. I'm a little forgetful could you post the age of your plants and how long in flower when you post pics? If not that's fine. Keep up the good work.At the moment my plant is 36 days old ( from seed ). i am 16 days into flower. i read your little problem you had with listening to your hubby and buddy about flowering early, i did the same thing, i put mine in flower at 20 days old.

[barry buds]

here is a pic of the very top of my plant.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I'm more regreting it because I'm worried theyare growing too well and I'll run out of room. But if I had done it my way my canopy would be uneven so really what I should have done is grown less plants lol. But live and learn. If you stop by my thread you'll see I've been learning alot and working out kinks, which is really what a first grow is all about. I'm going to check out your pics again now that I know how old they are.

[barry buds]

she is 10 1\2 inch tall. staight she would be 14 inchs. she has a canopy of 20 inchs by 16 inches.
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[barry buds]

i just bought some blackstrap molasses. how much do i use and how do i give it to her.

[brookerosebud]

one table spoon per gal. boil some water, pour a glass and mix the molasses thoroughly. pour this into your water can/pail/bucket and fill with water of your normal temp.

[barry buds]

one table spoon per gal. boil some water, pour a glass and mix the molasses thoroughly. pour this into your water can/pail/bucket and fill with water of your normal temp.thanks i will do that right now.sorry to ask but i am from canada and we dont use gallons so how much molasses would i have to mix with 2 litre's of water. i think mabye 1 tea spoon

[brookerosebud]

a little less than a tablespoon, maybe two teaspoons. molasses is great stuff.

[barry buds]

a little less than a tablespoon, maybe two teaspoons. molasses is great stuff.ok thanks

[brookerosebud]

your plant looks great! just saw the pix

[Chronic Chrissy]

just wanted to fill you in. There are 4L to a gallon, so those 4L milk jugs we have work great.

[barry buds]

just wanted to fill you in. There are 4L to a gallon, so those 4L milk jugs we have work great.ok thanks for the info.

[barry buds]

some daily bud pics.

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[barry buds]

I think from the growth of my buds now i might get some big buds when harvest time rolls around.

[barry buds]

here are some new bud pics at 39 days old from seed. 19 days into flower
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[barry buds]

right now i think she has about 7 or 8 grams, when she is done i think i will have a couple ounces.
:D

[young Hustla]

there are some plants that can show their sex without being flowerd so maybe u have one of them

[budsmoker only]

damn barry, your plants are lookin nice... how much longer do you think you have to go??

[420Paul]

right now i think she has about 7 or 8 grams, when she is done i think i will have a couple ounces.
:D

I'd say your looking at about an oz and and half harvest.

[barry buds]

damn barry, your plants are lookin nice... how much longer do you think you have to go??i have no idea. i know that you have to harvest when atleast 80 to 90 persent of the hairs turn brown. i have only been flowering for 21 days and i thought that it takes about 2 months from beginning of flower to harvest. but i could be wrong.

[barry buds]

i will take some more pics today after the light comes on. started to grow crystals yesterday.

[barry buds]

i will take some more pics today after the light comes on. started to grow crystals yesterday.sorry about not getting the pics my computer fucked up and i lost everything damn windows xp. but i have vista home premium now so im good to go. taking pics now. be on in a min.

[Chronic Chrissy]

Apperently the hairs isn't a great indicator. Look at the tricomes to be really accurate. So pick yourself up a 30x magnifying glass or microscope.

[barry buds]

Apperently the hairs isn't a great indicator. Look at the tricomes to be really accurate. So pick yourself up a 30x magnifying glass or microscope.
i have a good pic here with the crystals in it that you can see. what do you think. i think it might be getting close to harvest for me. a week or two. anyone think i should let it go longer.

[barry buds]

here she is my baby.
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[barry buds]

can anyone help with my last question

[budsmoker only]

have you checked the tricomes??? i think you could let them go a lil longer.... but im not sure cuz i dont know how the tricomes and shit look....

[Chronic Chrissy]

Good times to harvest, Marijuana Growing (http://www.planetskunk.com/cannabis2583.html)
Check this out, the first pic is of the bud, hairs, and tricome, the second pick is a close up of the tricomes and what they should look like.

[barry buds]

have you checked the tricomes??? i think you could let them go a lil longer.... but im not sure cuz i dont know how the tricomes and shit look.... the buds are starting to get covered with tricomes but only about 20 to 30 percent of the hairs have turned. thw bottom leaves are starting to die now.

[barry buds]

Good times to harvest, Marijuana Growing (http://www.planetskunk.com/cannabis2583.html)
Check this out, the first pic is of the bud, hairs, and tricome, the second pick is a close up of the tricomes and what they should look like. those were the perfect example in those two pics thanks. as you can see from my last pics mine isnt ready yet.

[whisky]

hi evryone. congrats on this great grow barry its looking tasty :) i was wondering about this website too much and i just had to get an account and join you guys. im also growing at the moment 4 plants there about 1 week of age so theres time :) about your grow id say give it alot more time to fully develop buds before harvesting.. man this is one fast plant.
i would like to ask you people about one of my plants actually .. 3 of 4 are looking cool but one... is weird. the seeds was a normal cannabis seed but the plant that came out is very strange. it might be that it is a different breed of cannabis that ive never seen before. compared with the rest this is a very very skinny plant and short and you know the first pair of leaves that come out are round then the rest are the spiky leaves... well this has 2 sets of round leaves and i can see more round leaves forming. maybe this is stupid but ive never seen this before thats why it concerned me.. im germinating some more seeds just incase this is ... i dno wtf it is maybe im blessed with an uber plant or maybe its some genetically mutated travesti hermafrodite.. i would take photos but i only have a webcam and it takes bad ass photos:D im gna wait a little more and be certain that its ... something and not weed and ill rip it out? sorry to have filled up your topic with my stupid talk.. hope ur plants get good and ripe try to post alot of pics:P

[barry buds]

total plant age as of today is 44 days old from seed.

[barry buds]

well today is febuary 7th and i have a few new pics and questions. i will be posting them shortly.

[barry buds]

well here are some new pics. how does she look. oh and i got somemore bag seeds from the weed i got. can you tell the type of weed you have from the look and shape of the seeds..
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[barry buds]

these are the seeds.
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[barry buds]

someone told me that a good sign that harvest is around the corner is when the bottom leaves fade to yellow and die. i was wondering from these pics how close i am.
this is a dieing bottom leaf.
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this is a healthy middle leaf.
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[barry buds]

she is 47 days old. in day 27 of flower

[barry buds]

hello can anyone help me with my harvest time

[Chronic Chrissy]

I already told you be patient and watch your tricomes

[babystarbud]

yes check your tricomes, but your olny about half way there, it will take a good 60 days of flowering at least

[budsmoker only]

and to answer your question about if you can tell the plant from seeds, i highly doubt it.. i think its near impossible.. but your plants are lookin nice, just be patient..

[barry buds]

thankyou all for your feedback. i will have to get a magnifying glass or something.

[Chronic Chrissy]

go to a book store and get a 30X reading magnifying glass, they're cheap

[barry buds]

we have one in the mall i will go their

[undertheinfluence]

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/basic-growing/84655d1156904544-questions-138w-cfl-rubbermaid-grow-flowering-when-harvest.jpg


good look at trich harvest point.

[barry buds]

here are some new pics. the tops of my bud have shot up about 3/4 to an inch above the bud and i am wondering is something is going wrong or if it is just a growth spurt in the flowering cycle. i have been giving it straight water for about 3 days now. take a look at the pics and let me know what you think.

[barry buds]

ht epics might be a bit bluffy becouse im not the steadiest person with a cam. trying to quit smoking and its getting to my nerves.
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[budsmoker only]

damn plants are lookin frosty... nice.. how is it smelling right about now?? haha

[barry buds]

they have a nice strong woody smell with a very faint smell of skunk if you get really close. i had a person post a comment on my webpage and that person stated that he\she thinks my plant might be a (BC northern lights). what do you think.

[eL.migz]

Dude i love this thread. not to sound rude, but you sound so much smarter about growing than you did earlier in the thread. shows you worked out the kinks. Plant is still lookin good. keep up the good work.

also something good to check out is the "cannabis grow bible" you can find it on amazon. also go to youtube.com and search ready-set-grow. its a good video with parts 1-7

good luck:jointsmile:

[Chronic Chrissy]

I wanna see new pics.

[MULLETMAN]

I could of sworn you said you changed it back to 18/6 is this still the current situation and did it revert to veg or is it still puttin on flowers? I to was thinking give it more time to veg and lst it or something. Just seems like you could get more out of it if it's a little bigger. Nonetheless if you are on 12/12 it seems like it oughta put on some more growth. Good Luck, can you post some utd pics

[budsmoker only]

they have a nice strong woody smell with a very faint smell of skunk if you get really close. i had a person post a comment on my webpage and that person stated that he\she thinks my plant might be a (BC northern lights). what do you think.

dude its possible, but no one is gonna be able to tell you that... it is basically impossible to grow two plants and have them the exact same..

[barry buds]

hello everyone sorry about the delay in pics and info. we had a breakin on the 12th of febuary by a guy who is stalking my wife. we both did a statement and the guy was charged, but the cops ran my name and my wifes name in the computer the next morning and they found that i had a warrent for a 5600 dollar fine. so at 8:30 am on the 13th of feb the cops came and arrested me and put me in jail on fine-options working in the kitchen for 30 days. i just got out at 3:30 pm march 13th. but while i was in jail my wife was tending to my plant and doing what i told her. it was left in bud a little to long i think becouse some of the leafs in the buds turned yellow. i had my wife cut it down march 1st and hang it in the closet to dry untill i got home. when i got home and seen what i had i was impressed with how well it turned out. now i have pics that i took when i got home and finnished trimming off the garbage. now bare in mind that while i was in jail my brother came over to my house and cut of one branch becouse he couldent wait. and after it was hung to dry my wifes cousin stole the 2 very top colas. the biggest ones i had, my wife saied they were 8 inches long each but i dont have any pics to prove that so i dont know.

[barry buds]

i will have to try again later. for some reason my attachment thing isnt working.

[barry buds]

here are the bud picks.
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[barry buds]

it is the smoothest and tastest weed i have ever smoked and it is very stong. me and my brother smoked a joint the night i took those pics and we were both fucked right up. we played tiger woods 2007 on my 360 and it took us 3 hours to play 18 holes.

[barry buds]

dont those buds look nice.

[barry buds]

i will be starting a new plant in a couple weeks. this time i will be applying everything that i have learned from you guys.

[barry buds]

i think i got a nice haul from this plant consitering it only took 2 1/2 months.

[budsmoker only]

looks nice, how much did it yeild??

[barry buds]

total of 3 ounce's

[barry buds]

well everyone i am starting another plant. i started the germination at 5 pm yesterday. this time i will apply all that i have learned from you guys and grow a monster plant.. i will post pics as soon as it sprouts.

[budsmoker only]

great to hear your gonna grow again buds... lokin forward to checkin it out.. good luck!

[barry buds]

thanks. i am always open to hear peoples sugestions

[madeline]

3 oz's off of a plant grown for only 2 and half months? I'd have to say you should be giving US suggestions!

[dirfjiggler]

This read was very entertaining. I thought you dropping the light on your plant was really funny... sorry!

Felt like I was growing with you there up until you got busted for a warrant. Looking forward to your next grow.

[Specialty Cakes]

I liked this thread, it was a good read, very enjoyable, and the bud looks beautiful, good job!

[barry buds]

thankyou all very much. i am glad to know that you all like my thread. the plant that i am about to grow will be grown under the same lights and conditions as the last one, but this time i am making sure the lights dont fall, and i am not going to change the light cycle so soon, I want a bigger plant, atleast 3 to 4 feet tall. that means that this plant will take longer then 2 1/2 months.

[barry buds]

attached is a drawing of one of the buds. i should have taken a pic but to late now. the top half of the bud grew all gangly while i was in jail and i would like to know what caused it if anyone knows. the bud would have been 9 inchs tall if it didnt stretch.
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[barry buds]

damn pic didnt work.

[barry buds]

well to tell you what it looked like. at the bottom it had a small bud about the size of tight paper ball then it had a 1 inch space then the big bud which was about 5 inchs long then about 4 inchs of stem grow out of the top of the bud with tinny buds on it the size of a pinky fingernail. do anyone know what could cause that.

[barry buds]

i am germinating 2 seeds this time. one has been sitting for 3 days now, the other i started the germination today about 11 am.

[barry buds]

still no grow tip.

[barry buds]

well the seeds were a no go. but my brother has some he will give me and i will try to germinate those.

[barry buds]

hello everyone sorry to say but all the seeds i had were duds. but in about 2 or 3 weeks i will be getting some BC big bud seeds.

[barry buds]

yes i did the whole 30 days. the buds streched on me while i was in jail but damn the smoke was awsome.

[barry buds]

these are pics my wife took while i was in jail. as you can the tops of the buds are growing tall and thin, can anyone tell me why. i think it is becouse it was left in flower to long.
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[barry buds]

the skinny tip of one bud at harvest was 6 inchs long.