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HiProGlow
01-11-2007, 05:55 PM
Last time I went to Amsterdam I met a girl and we got together. When she saw my penis she was startled...lol...not because of it's enormous size, but because I'm circumsised. She said she'd never seen one before, circumsised that is. She told me it's uncommon to be cirumcised in Europe. Is this true?
So now I'm baked and I'm reminiscing and thought, does circumsision vs noncircumsision make a difference? Am I missing out on something besides foreskin? So ladies, or gentlemen for that matter, which do you prefer and is there a difference when shagging? I'm not up to speed on the subject of international penises in general, but why is it that most Europeans are not circumsised and a lot of Americans are? Peace

HarryHeat
01-11-2007, 05:57 PM
uncut = dick in a windsock

gross looking things they are

HiProGlow
01-11-2007, 05:59 PM
hahahaha dick in a windsock!!! ROFLMAO Thanks for the laugh! Peace!

stinkyattic
01-11-2007, 05:59 PM
Well lets see, there's the Jewish reason for circumcision, that of cleanliness, and I have to say I'm seriously in agreement with that. Clean is always good! To be a bit blunt, say you're out for a long hot summer day at the beach, want to go get jiggy with it in the dunes in the evening, and all you can smell is musty cheese-balls? Not happening! And forget oral... If I can smell it, it's not happening. End of story. So you guys still wearing the turtlenecks, it's not a bad idea to duck into the loo a few times a day and do a bit of maintenance under the hood...:D

the yeag
01-11-2007, 06:00 PM
I do not know why. I do know that it is necessary for cleanliness and health reasons. you might lose a little in the size department..they say like a half inch to an inch. but who cares guys who do not have a circumcised penis are twice as likely to get std's and other diesese..i am no doc. but i read that somewhere.....and who wants a turtleneck on there pecker anyway.

the yeag
01-11-2007, 06:00 PM
damn it stinky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you did it again you beat me here...you dont have a penis.....BLAHHHH!!!!

the yeag
01-11-2007, 06:01 PM
HAHA WE BOTH SAID TURTLENECK

stinkyattic
01-11-2007, 06:05 PM
hahahaha turtleneck
Hey, it's winter... they're all the rage in Tahoe, lol!

I don't have one of my own but I consider myself somewhat of a discriminating connisseur -uh-fuck I think that's like the only word in the universe I can't ever remember how to spell lol - I'm a picky little girl! I like freckles actually and you can't see them as well through a turtleneck!

HiProGlow
01-11-2007, 06:07 PM
Thanks Stinky! Got the picture, a little too clearly, I'll add! Thanks mom and dad for having the foresight to remove the foreskin! Peace!

stinkyattic
01-11-2007, 06:09 PM
hahaha there's more where that came from!
Do you want to hear about lint?
You know the kind that you find in the pockets of your jeans?
Now imagine it all gooey and stinky... kind of like a fine Stilton..lol
:weedpoke:

the yeag
01-11-2007, 06:09 PM
i figured it out..the reason you always beat me to the post is..i am on the mods watch list. they have a 100 second delay on my posts like the radio censors do because of my voracious vocabulary and lack of patients for noo00obs.

stinkyattic
01-11-2007, 06:11 PM
That must be it. Makes perfect sense.:D

HiProGlow
01-11-2007, 06:11 PM
Oh God...Stilton will never taste the same again! ROFLMAO and puking!

If it smells like cheese, she's not gettin' on her knees! Peace!

stinkyattic
01-11-2007, 06:19 PM
Unlike the Yeag's, which I imagine by now smells vaguely of mashed potatoes!

trem0lo
01-11-2007, 08:17 PM
Uncut guys have more nerve endings intact, and the head is ultra sensitive, so that you can't really touch it with anything but... well you know :) So basically they have better sex.

kdspecial
01-11-2007, 08:22 PM
Me and a good friend have this arguement all the time.

Hes a Ant eator,,, I'm a Hard Hat....

he says hes bigger cuz of it.. I tell him to get off it cuz flappy skin don't get errect..

kd

stinkyattic
01-11-2007, 08:23 PM
he says hes bigger cuz of it.. I tell him to get off it cuz flappy skin don't get errect..

damn i just guffawed

slipknotpsycho
01-11-2007, 08:41 PM
Uncut guys have more nerve endings intact, and the head is ultra sensitive, so that you can't really touch it with anything but... well you know :) So basically they have better sex.

actually, both get about the same feeling, they have more nerve endings, but because of that extra skin, not as many of their nerve endings get touched as ours.. pleasure wise, it equals out in the end...

uncircumsized looks weird... also if you're not really clean about it that shit can stink.... lol only thing down there that ends up stinking on me is my balls...

greendove
01-11-2007, 08:45 PM
I was with an uncircumsized guy once. It was a but creepy, but I'd say only because I'm not used to it.

On a side note, I know someone who decided to get circumsized at the age of 18. His sexual experience was so changed (for the worse) that he now has MAJOR issues. He's so psychologically screwed up (due to that and other things) that I seriously doubt he'll ever have sex again, and I'm not exaggerating. A lot of sensation is lost in the circumcision process. Another difference between circumsized men and uncircumsized men, generally, and due to that loss of sensation, is that circumsized men typically last longer during sex. If I ever have a son, he will be circumsized, if only to keep him from deciding to do it later on in life, and regretting it forever. I'd just rather him remain in that ignorant bliss.

Kid Dynamite
01-11-2007, 09:41 PM
im non circumsized and im damn well staying that way. People say "oh its dirty, its nasty" but its not, its natural. Your dick will only be dirty and nasty if you dont wash it. Thats not a problem with your penis, its a problem with your personal hygeine.

HarryHeat
01-11-2007, 09:45 PM
im non circumsized and im damn well staying that way. People say "oh its dirty, its nasty" but its not, its natural. Your dick will only be dirty and nasty if you dont wash it. Thats not a problem with your penis, its a problem with your personal hygeine.

still very ugly though



like a dick in a windsock

a very wrinkly, saggy, smelly windsock


very unsavory

duffer
01-11-2007, 11:12 PM
still very ugly though



like a dick in a windsock

a very wrinkly, saggy, smelly windsock


very unsavory


Wouldn't the skin pull back when erect and look just about the same?

Lucifuge
01-11-2007, 11:24 PM
I don't care what women say, it still doesn't look as bad as those fuckin beef curtains some of you ladies have.

Inferius
01-11-2007, 11:31 PM
Wouldn't the skin pull back when erect and look just about the same?

Nah you still get a Dick wearing a watch effect.

But I don't care, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I like my foreskin like a best friend. You know those masturbation gloves they make? Cyberskin? You know what they're replicating? Foreskin.

In general circumcision's pros generally outweigh not being circumsized,
But I like knowing that a part me of wasn't stolen by some greedy doctor.

duffer
01-11-2007, 11:39 PM
But I like knowing that a part me of wasn't stolen by some greedy doctor.


Yeah, I'm cut myself and pretty cool with it, but I know a lot of guys who are cut and sort of feel violated by the fact that they had no say in what's happened to them.

As long as people are comfortable with themselves I don't see why this should be a hangup for any guy.

peacetrain
01-11-2007, 11:39 PM
Circumcisions pro's certainly don't outweigh the cons.

The only pro for circumcision is fitting in; because the average male here is circumcised, they might be picked on or thought of badly.

That skin is supposed to be there. Your body is born with it. And it certainly does hurt the baby! It's your penis for god's sakes. I'm circumcised, and I feel like I'm missing something and I had no choice in the matter. I've also heard from many women that uncircumcised look strange but fuck more efficiently (makes sense, it being the way we were born).

Religious and social reasons are the only things keeping it popular.

Inferius
01-12-2007, 12:06 AM
(taken from http://www.pedsurology.com/circumci.htm)

* Circumcision lowers your son’s chances of getting a urinary tract infection (UTI) in the first year of life.
* Although a rare condition, cancer of the penis is essentially eliminated in circumcised males.
* Research shows that males who are circumcised have a slightly lower risk of getting sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).
* Circumcision eliminates foreskin infection that occur at the peak ages of 3 to 5 years.
* Circumcision prevents phimosis, a narrow opening that makes it impossible to retract the foreskin at a later age.
* Genital hygiene, which is particularly important in unsanitary conditions, may be easier after circumcision.

ZeldaG.
01-12-2007, 01:00 AM
cudnt b bothered to type so:
uncut, and staying that way.

RyanTheCaveman
01-12-2007, 01:37 AM
im circumsized and happy.
un-circumsized is...ugly..
and smells..gross.

:DCaveman

Snorbel
01-12-2007, 01:47 AM
How do guys that are circumsized know what uncircumsized smells like... lol

d00d557
01-12-2007, 02:51 AM
haha seriously snorbel thats what i was about to ask, but speaking for us uncircumsized guys its not that fucking hard, if you dont wash and your dick smells thats personal hygeine not your penis's fault

Spanish Leather
01-12-2007, 06:17 AM
OK, I'm not circumcised and i wish every man in the world was like that. Let's analyze some things:

1. It is impossible to improve on nature's design (I don't believe in God, so...). I'm at a major research university and many of the engineering grad students in ALL diciplines study NATURE's in order to improveon human designs. The human heart is the most efficient pump in the world. The human hand is so complex, that it would take a room full of today's super computers to mimick it exactly. The fact that millions and millions of DNA pairings are copied during cell division and that there are only a few mutations is AMAZING. Likewise, the human foreskin is amazing if you actually look at it from a design standpoint. Why would you ever want to cut off that nature designed??? It has many useful functions!!!

2. According to Wikipedia, circumsicion has actuallly appeared on some cave paintings. I know for sure that it started, in terms of organized civilizations, in Egypt, b/c one of the gods they worshiped was the snake in some form (pre/early-pharonic Era), and the penis looks like a snake. HOWEVER, the real reason (say many egyptologists) that the Egyptians started circumsizing was b/c of sand getting caught b/t the foreskin and the head. Jews circumsized thier boys b/c they were in Egypt before they were in Israel (remember the Exodus). Furthermore, notice that many of the cultures that circumsize are in sandy places, i.e. the Middle East. Muslims circumsize b/c they think that Muhammed was cut. THINK ABOUT IT: If you were living in a society that had no running water to adequetly clean yourself, circumsision makes perfect sense. However, WE ARE IN THE 21st century!!!!!!!!! We have running water, electricity, and all the emmenities to adequetly clean the penis. IN FACT, circumsion only became common practice in the US of A after WWI, b/c our boys in uniform were getting UTI's b/c of horrific hygene in the trenches.

3. It is only unclean if the dude doesn't clean it. PERIOD. I'd say mine stays fresh for 24 hours, usuallymore. It literally takes 5 seconds to clean. Also, if cleanliness is such a problem, how come we don;t here European/foreign women complaining about this "problem." You'd think that there'd be riots in the streets if women weren't satisfied with their men, but there aren't (this is a joke).

4. FACT: the circumsized penis is less sensitive than the uncut one. THINK ABOUT THIS (uncut dudes back me up): when a cut guy walks around, his dick is constantly rubbing up against his boxers. Over time, he loses sensitivity, just like guitar players build calluses on the tips of thier fingers from the constant contact of their fingers with the fret board, and they loose sensitivity. NOW, when MY foreskin retracts in public (which happens maybe once every year or so), i have to PULL OFF TO THE SIDE, and put my hands down my pants and adjust myself b/c the HEAD IS WAYYYY to sensitive. You feel a tingleing alll over your body that is really annoying/exciting, and requires immediate help. I have confirmed this with my cousins, who are also uncut. How come this doesn't happen with cut guys??? Hmmm, could it be because their penises are MUCH less sensitive than ours? If there penises were just as sensitive as ours, you'd see guys all over putting thier hand down thier pants to adjust themselves.

6. Honestly, there are no reasons to circumsize (please name me one, btw). There have been many studies done on the subject in relatinon to male AND female sensitivity (wikipedia) but unforuntetly, it seems as though those studies contradict each other; why, i don't know.

SOME THING YOU SHOULD WATCH:

http://asp.noterik.com/video/michael/CIRCUMCISION.mov

This is a FASCINATING documentary on the subject. It takes a while to load, especially if you have dial up, but i promise you it's well worth it.

Also, this book:

http://asp.noterik.com/video/michael/CIRCUMCISION.mov

It's considered the bible of the anti-cut mov't. If you are a female or a male who is even CURIOUS about uncut dudes, check it out.

LASTLY, if you're gonna have kids in the future, do yourself a favor and educate yourself. Circumsicion does hurt the baby. Google for a video of a circumsision taking place. It's pretty revolting.

SL

P.S. Excuse the poor sentence structure/spelling of this post

sgS2
01-12-2007, 08:11 AM
LOL its so funny reading this WOW...i cant believe ppl actually argue about this?!?!??! HAHAHAHAHAHA WOWOWOWOWOWOW kids theses days huh...
they say "it smells" and "its uglY" BLAH BLAH BLAH

for starters ...if u r a dirty bastard, then yea ur just dirty PERIOD,
if u take showers and r clean, so is that area, even for the uncut ,,
and also, hahah ugly? who gives a shit do u stare and admire the cock? HAHA oh im sorry some bitches might iuno....
but in the END, when we get erect, it looks no different then a cut person..hahhaa unless ur a tad bit on the short side :) hahahaha just get ur facts straight, and grow up

sgS2
01-12-2007, 08:13 AM
still very ugly though



like a dick in a windsock

a very wrinkly, saggy, smelly windsock


very unsavory

haha dumb bitch keeps talkin shit....
or maybe shes just been very unlucky with the men shes had...
hahaha seems that they had smelly windsocks for u LOLZ sux to be u,,

ValkyrieAg
01-12-2007, 08:30 AM
Wow. Im going to be the ignorant conservative Texas hick that I am and say some shit.

Uncircumsized is fuckin nasty. If I was uncircumsized, I would feel cheated. I don't believe the sensitivity bullshit. Thats bull cause I get off just fine.

And about the smelly dick, jeezus take a shower hippies.

If I ever have a child, he will definately be circumsized. I don't understand how a dick could get 'shorter' when its circumsized. Unless your skin hangs over your dick head like a fuckin animal. People, trim your bush and get your kids circumsized. Its 2007.

HiProGlow
01-12-2007, 10:38 AM
I had no idea that this thread would turn out like it has. Strange to know that an issue that divided the church thousands of years ago is still dividing a nation to this day?! Who says there's no such thing as the collective conscious? Peace!

bud luv
01-12-2007, 11:49 AM
While whatever works for you works, it's good to know that if I for some reason don't take a shower for 24 hours, my cock won't smell like cheese.

It seems like all the uncircumcised guys have admitted that it gets "stinky" if they don't shower for a day. What happens when they go camping? Do they need to shower twice a day... what if they get "stinky" every 22 hours? Frankly, that's a problem that I'm glad I don't have.


I can't believe I posted on this thread. Mods - delete this a.s.a.p. ;)

thcbongman
01-12-2007, 01:31 PM
haha dumb bitch keeps talkin shit....
or maybe shes just been very unlucky with the men shes had...
hahaha seems that they had smelly windsocks for u LOLZ sux to be u,,

You realize that's a dude?

Well, I guess his cock in her pootang most likely, but still.....

HarryHeat
01-12-2007, 02:02 PM
You realize that's a dude?

Well, I guess his cock in her pootang most likely, but still.....

see my avatar? Thats me, im no dude.

thcbongman
01-12-2007, 02:06 PM
That's some lovely ass you are banging there HP ;)

HarryHeat
01-12-2007, 02:10 PM
sweetheat and i have become one ;)

check my homepage bro

thcbongman
01-12-2007, 02:15 PM
lmao

Ain't nuttin' but a sweet thang.

LIP
01-12-2007, 03:08 PM
Im cut [because im jewish, even though im un orthodox]

All the bitches i've been with said it looks alot better than uncut... and the cleanliness is another upside...

But more importantly... the risk of STDs goes down... no away... but down... but i aint stupid enough to get an STD... i dont get to shag that often :(

You'll find the poeple saying

Cut people are gay... got smaller cocks... cant feel anything... it's all bullshit.

The people who say that are the children. You know why they say it? Because they dont fully understand it.

The unsensitive thing is probably GOOD.... think about it... the less sensitive you are the longer you take to come.... therefore pleasing the woman more...

But anyway, ui dont care for these discussions, not when aload of kids cant post stuf worth reading

TallulahGreen
01-12-2007, 04:22 PM
Last time I went to Amsterdam I met a girl and we got together. When she saw my penis she was startled...lol...not because of it's enormous size, but because I'm circumsised. She said she'd never seen one before, circumsised that is. She told me it's uncommon to be cirumcised in Europe. Is this true?
So now I'm baked and I'm reminiscing and thought, does circumsision vs noncircumsision make a difference? Am I missing out on something besides foreskin? So ladies, or gentlemen for that matter, which do you prefer and is there a difference when shagging? I'm not up to speed on the subject of international penises in general, but why is it that most Europeans are not circumsised and a lot of Americans are? Peace

Circumcision is something that is becoming more rare in the US. I believe now the populatoin of circumcised vs uncircumcised right now is around 50%? I believe in the long run it has been proven worse to be circumsized than to be uncircumsized. It is now more of a social thing rather than a health thing. I personally think natural is always better, doesn't really make any sense to me to circumsize someone. My boyfriend isn't circumsized. It has been proven that guys who aren't circumsized have more a more sensative penis therefore sex is better for them(not that they would know anyway?)...anyway...if i ever have a son, gauranteed he won't be circumsized. Whats the point? It's messed up.

someuser
01-12-2007, 08:42 PM
All I will say on the subject is an 'uncut' dick is an ugly dick... They look freaking weird... I dunno, I'm not a chick though so I dont have to deal with it... But I'm glad I was circumcised... Looks better, easy to stay super clean, and it lasts longer during sex.

YahtzeeG
01-12-2007, 11:36 PM
all i know is spanish leather cleared it all up for me. I am uncut and I can please a woman. I shower also so my dong never stinks so I don't care how clean your dong is mine is just as clean as yours.

ValkyrieAg
01-13-2007, 12:55 AM
I believe now the populatoin of circumcised vs uncircumcised right now is around 50%? I believe in the long run it has been proven worse to be circumsized than to be uncircumsized. It is now more of a social thing rather than a health thing. I personally think natural is always better, doesn't really make any sense to me to circumsize someone. My boyfriend isn't circumsized. It has been proven that guys who aren't circumsized have more a more sensative penis therefore sex is better for them(not that they would know anyway?)...anyway...if i ever have a son, gauranteed he won't be circumsized. Whats the point? It's messed up.

I would guess the ratio would favor circumsized.

I don't think you could say that circumsized dicks have more problems. I have never had any type of 'issue' with my dick. Its fine, its a dick, I couldn't even imagine having an issue due to circumcision.

With all respect, I don't think a girl has the capability to decide whether or not to circumsize. I don't buy the whole sensitivity thing and that sex is better or more pleasurable. Its more of a personal preference maybe, but I just couldn't imagine not being circumsized.

Just hearing that a dirty uncircumsized penis can smell like....ugh....cheese makes me fuckin gag.

Snorbel
01-13-2007, 12:55 AM
It's pretty nasty to watch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6584757516627632617&q=circumcision

Mr. TBAGU 420
01-13-2007, 07:38 AM
actually, both get about the same feeling, they have more nerve endings, but because of that extra skin, not as many of their nerve endings get touched as ours.. pleasure wise, it equals out in the end...

uncircumsized looks weird... also if you're not really clean about it that shit can stink.... lol only thing down there that ends up stinking on me is my balls...

Uncircumsized looks weird? Well, that's how god intended every man to be when they came out and grew up to be a man. God didn't intend on man taking a razor and chopping off a part of their penis that shouldn't be cut off. Getting nerves cut out doesn't sound too interesting or appealing to me. I'm uncut and i love it. I keep my shit clean all the time and it never stinks except for after nice sex with no rubber. Mine is also ultra sensitive too but BJ's still feel great and sex is absolutely phenomenal (SP?). Anyways, that's my two cents. In the end, a dick is a dick no matter what it looks like.

Spanish Leather
01-13-2007, 10:21 AM
I would guess the ratio would favor circumsized.
Its fine, its a dick, I couldn't even imagine having an issue due to circumcision.


Really?????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Risks_of_circumcision

the rarest thing I've heard of circumcision is some boys loose thier entire penises from the procedure, do to an infection. This came from from a very anti-cut person, so i don't want to lend it truth.

HOWEVER, when it comes to the sensitivity issue, MANY OF YOU ARE IN DENILE. Let's analyze something:

Fact: the foreskin has TONS of nerve endings, and nerve endings are where feeling comes from (your elbow has less nerves, hence, u can't feel much there). Hence removing the foreskin would take away the ability for you to FEEL the same thing that i could. IT'S PURE LOGIC!!!!


FURTHERMORE, your head is more leathery (for back of a better word) than mine, guaranteed; look to my former post for a qualifying example.

Many, though not all, circumsized men will never admit that there penises can not feel the same thing as ours. This is because men will never tell others that they're wrong about anything b/c this shows that they're weak (I'm grossly over simplyfing here; just look up male gender ideology and you'll understand what I'm talking about and I'm too lazy to talk about it).

FURTHERMORE, i like how many men here say, "there's no sensitivity lost when circumsized", YET they will ALSO say that circumsized men last longer. HMMM?????? One of these reasons disqualifies the others and vice versa. THE UNFORTUNATE FACT IS THAT men in America are uncomfortable with the fact that there might be something wrong (bad word choice, but you get what i'm trying to say) with them AND that they COULDN'T DO ANYTHING TO CONTROL IT. Masculinty is based on POWER: power over females and power over males. If you don't have control over your own life decisions, especially in relation to the one thing that DEFINES him as a male, you are gonna feel something inside of you that you don't wanna feel; you will supress this thought. A MALE NEVER WANTS TO DOUBT HIMSELF--lack of power = lack of masculinty.

Can we get some girls on this? How many females have had sex with both and can compare?

SL

P.S. once again, sorry for the poor nature of this post. I'm having 3 conversations at once with my family

HarryHeat
01-13-2007, 12:37 PM
girls already posted about dicks in a windsock

theyre ugly, nasty looking things with wringly baggy skin hanging off

Iv been with both and I dont like uncut

ValkyrieAg
01-13-2007, 05:28 PM
Really?????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Risks_of_circumcision

the rarest thing I've heard of circumcision is some boys loose thier entire penises from the procedure, do to an infection. This came from from a very anti-cut person, so i don't want to lend it truth.

HOWEVER, when it comes to the sensitivity issue, MANY OF YOU ARE IN DENILE. Let's analyze something:

Fact: the foreskin has TONS of nerve endings, and nerve endings are where feeling comes from (your elbow has less nerves, hence, u can't feel much there). Hence removing the foreskin would take away the ability for you to FEEL the same thing that i could. IT'S PURE LOGIC!!!!


FURTHERMORE, your head is more leathery (for back of a better word) than mine, guaranteed; look to my former post for a qualifying example.

Many, though not all, circumsized men will never admit that there penises can not feel the same thing as ours. This is because men will never tell others that they're wrong about anything b/c this shows that they're weak (I'm grossly over simplyfing here; just look up male gender ideology and you'll understand what I'm talking about and I'm too lazy to talk about it).

FURTHERMORE, i like how many men here say, "there's no sensitivity lost when circumsized", YET they will ALSO say that circumsized men last longer. HMMM?????? One of these reasons disqualifies the others and vice versa. THE UNFORTUNATE FACT IS THAT men in America are uncomfortable with the fact that there might be something wrong (bad word choice, but you get what i'm trying to say) with them AND that they COULDN'T DO ANYTHING TO CONTROL IT. Masculinty is based on POWER: power over females and power over males. If you don't have control over your own life decisions, especially in relation to the one thing that DEFINES him as a male, you are gonna feel something inside of you that you don't wanna feel; you will supress this thought. A MALE NEVER WANTS TO DOUBT HIMSELF--lack of power = lack of masculinty.

Can we get some girls on this? How many females have had sex with both and can compare?

SL

P.S. once again, sorry for the poor nature of this post. I'm having 3 conversations at once with my family

1. My dick and everyone I know who is circumsized (almost everyone) has never fallen off or started to rot due to an infection. I have never heard of that even happening. Yes quintuplets happen too, but I ain't never seen any.

2. If you are saying that my dick isn't sensitive...you are incorrect. And there is nothing 'leathery' about my dick.

3. Yes bad word choice. If you are saying that I am in denial about my being circumsized you are dead wrong. I would never want to be anything but circumsized. I would honestly probably be unhappy with an uncircumsized penis. You are also insane if you think I have suppressed thoughts because I am not a 'whole' man. Dicks shouldn't have ugly loose skin around the head. Back in the jr high showering days, alot of boys would be ashamed that they were not circumsized. I have Zero 'masculinity' issues. You are also mistaken about the general population having 'secret issues' with their circumsized penis's. If this were true, why are infants still getting circumsized? If my offspring has a penis, its getting circumsized.

Honestly, I don't even have any idea what part is actually cut off. I couldn't describe it if I had to. I just know that an uncircumsized dick kinda looks like an animal penis.

BLaQLiGhT
01-13-2007, 07:53 PM
I remember once on the news there were many law suits in florida about the doctors using unclean equipment or doing the circumcision wrong. The babys would lose their penis and then the doctors would then ask the parents if they wanted him to turn the boys into girls since the penis was gone. The doctors would say that if he was a girl (penis made into a vagina), he would have a better life. That shit is sad man, if I ever have a son, he is going uncut. No doubt about it...

fastforyou84
01-14-2007, 05:51 PM
sweetheat and i have become one ;)

check my homepage bro

Damn why arent there any hot girls like you around here to smoke with;)

TallulahGreen
01-14-2007, 10:18 PM
I just don't get how so many people can think natural is wrong? What is society doing to your minds???

twocamaros
01-14-2007, 10:28 PM
i feel bad for uncuts..

TallulahGreen
01-14-2007, 10:33 PM
i feel bad for uncuts..

I feel bad for people who believe it is more natural and normal to be cut. Natural is always better.

Wouldn't trade my boyfriends uncut penis for the world!

HarryHeat
01-14-2007, 11:38 PM
I just don't get how so many people can think natural is wrong? What is society doing to your minds???

do you shave your body hair?

TallulahGreen
01-14-2007, 11:48 PM
do you shave your body hair?

Only when I feel like it. Not for society purposes necassarily but rather for personal preferences. However, shaving is not permanent, not painful...and it's my choice to do it.

Circumcision is cutting off apart of your penis for social purposes. The only reason to do it is for religion purposes or for you to fit better into society. Otherwise it's completly obscured in this day and age.

I don't believe we should change something we are born with, if it didn't serve a purpose it wouldn't be there. I am glad that circumcision is becoming less and less common, I think it's ridiculous. We were all just socialized to believe that you aren't normal if you aren't circumcised, and that circumcision is how it's supposed to be. I just can't seem to grasp the fact that people aren't understanding that it's you! It's apart of you, it's how you were born....it's natural...it was never meant to be cut off.

I guess I really can't seem to make anyone think otherwise, so to each their own...but if I ever have a son I won't even have to think twice about making the decision NOT to circumcise.

Skink
01-14-2007, 11:52 PM
Only when I feel like it. Not for society purposes necassarily but rather for personal preferences. However, shaving is not permanent, not painful...and it's my choice to do it.

Circumcision is cutting off apart of your penis for social purposes. The only reason to do it is for religion purposes or for you to fit better into society. Otherwise it's completly obscured in this day and age.

I don't believe we should change something we are born with, if it didn't serve a purpose it wouldn't be there. I am glad that circumcision is becoming less and less common, I think it's ridiculous. We were all just socialized to believe that you aren't normal if you aren't circumcised, and that circumcision is how it's supposed to be. I just can't seem to grasp the fact that people aren't understanding that it's you! It's apart of you, it's how you were born....it's natural...it was never meant to be cut off.

I guess I really can't seem to make anyone think otherwise, so to each their own...but if I ever have a son I won't even have to think twice about making the decision NOT to circumcise.
We agree here you vegetarian you...

TallulahGreen
01-14-2007, 11:57 PM
Sweet!:jointsmile:

Trip06
01-15-2007, 12:43 AM
Fact is a dick is like an 'eye' if your moist all the time your nerve endings arent fucked up from years of being dried out.
And If you dont take a shower after working out or in the mornings and at night I feel bad for you uncut and cut.

couch-potato
01-15-2007, 12:49 AM
It's pretty nasty to watch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6584757516627632617&q=circumcision



dude... WHAT THE FUCK


Heh, even after watching that I'd still have my son be circumsized, if I ever have children.

TallulahGreen
01-15-2007, 12:58 AM
Yes actually the skin does pull back when it's erect. I really don't think it's ugly....but my boyfriend does get mad when I called it a little penis pouch...hahahaha.

mackSwell
01-15-2007, 01:29 AM
I expect this debate could go on forever! *laugh*

Here's my thoughts:

Post #27 covered the medically accepted pros for circumcision.
Many people have mentioned the cons - It is unnecessary surgery, it is not the way nature made it, sensitivity is lost.

It should be a man's choice, but unfortunately it isn't something you can try out and then change your mind! And in the case of men who were circumcised as children, ain't no choice left at all.

Now I'm a fan of penises. *chuckle* Different sizes, different shapes, cut & uncut. I have somewhat of a preference for cut, but the user and his skill, attentiveness, & attractiveness matter oh-so-much more. Asthetically I do find it more appealing, and then there's the functionality differences:

Someone mentioned how you can buy a "masturbation sock" which mimics the protection from friction that you get with a foreskin. Well, let me just say that when it comes to intercourse, I like the friction. We ladies have lots of nerve endings on the outside, but on the inside we feel mostly just pressure & friction. So when an uncut man is doing his thing, some of the in and out is within his own foreskin, so less of it is felt by the woman.

But put a condom on it and they all feel the same.

Bless the penises. Every one. *grin*

Bob the Awesome
01-15-2007, 01:42 AM
Circumcision has no real advantage except for looks. The foreskin helps lubricate the penis so sex is harder without it.

Watch the episode of Penn And Teller Bullshit on this topic for more information. It's not natural.

I'm not circumcised for the record. <3 my foreskin.

Yea, they've got it down pretty well, to establish some actual facts into this:

- Yes, being circumsized does increase the chances of urinary tract infection, in the first few years of life. This is due, however, to the fact that kids are dirty. If the parents are doing their job and teach them to clean themselves properly, there's not really a problem.

- Being circumsized doesn't necessarily mean you're clean. Uncircumsized guys are as clean as can be if they actually clean themselves, while conversely a circumsized guy who never cleans is going to be dirty. Lesson: Guys who clean themselves are clean. That's what actually matters here. It's not hard, we have soap and water.

- I do believe being circumsized lowers the chance of getting STD's by some amount, but as you either should be using protection/not screwing with diseased people, this isn't much of a factor.

- Girls can't really normally distinguish between a circumsized and uncircumsized penis, when it's fully erect. Also, as the skin folds back and creates a sort of ridge, it actually helps in pleasuring the female more.

- Being circumsized lowers your sexual pleasure. The skin has nerves: When it gets cut off, these nerves obviously no longer work (or are there). The result is the male doesn't feel as much.

Oh, from what I understand, the Jewish began the practice for 2 reasons 1) back in the day when hygiene was horrible (no soap and water like now) it was harder to clean yourself, so being circumsized helped, and 2) Being that way lowers sexual pleasure, and helps the boys not touch themselves as much. Seeing as how most religions see sex in some fearful and mystical light, this isn't surprising.

Oh, and if you are THINKING about giving your son, either now or in the future, a circumcision, go watch a video of one happening. Or, if you're gonna do it soon and don't care, go watch it happen to your son. There's nothing that'll keep you up at night like watching doctors send a newborn into SHOCK from the pain of having one of their most sensitive areas chopped off.

Seriously, anyone who gets their kid circumsized in the modern day needs to reconsider... it should be considered as genital mutilation.

They go after people in Africa for cutting parts of the girls' anatomy at a younger age, but yet they do it to males and it's OK. Sexism at its finest.

HarryHeat
01-15-2007, 02:17 AM
Now I'm a fan of penises. *chuckle* Different sizes, different shapes, cut & uncut. I have somewhat of a preference for cut, but the user and his skill, attentiveness, & attractiveness matter oh-so-much more. Asthetically I do find it more appealing, and then there's the functionality differences:

Someone mentioned how you can buy a "masturbation sock" which mimics the protection from friction that you get with a foreskin. Well, let me just say that when it comes to intercourse, I like the friction. We ladies have lots of nerve endings on the outside, but on the inside we feel mostly just pressure & friction. So when an uncut man is doing his thing, some of the in and out is within his own foreskin, so less of it is felt by the woman.



thats what im saying, I like the well defined head of a cut penis. That lip that runs around the head can bring pleasure to a female. any uncut guys I been with i didnt feel that, I felt well, less.

but i do love the cock!!!!

IllusionalFate
01-15-2007, 02:33 AM
I'm neither pro nor anti circumcision. Nobody can know what's better without experiencing both, and getting circumcised at a later age is a poor way of comparing them. I only have 3 things to add to this thread:

1) Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's better. Do people cut their hair or shave? What about nails? Isn't it natural for nails to grow continuously? That doesn't mean cutting them isn't a better option.

2) I am circumcised, and I am perfectly satisfied with the amount of sexual stimulation my penis allows me to have. Every single guy out there, circumcised or not, appears to be equally content with the amount of sexual stimulation they can receive. So even if uncircumcised penises are more sensitive, then I believe most people still ENJOY sexual stimulation relatively the same.

3) Penises don't need the lubrication of the foreskin. Precum works as a lubricant effectively enough, not to mention the vagina provides more than enough lubrication necessary for sex.

rottenPauL
01-15-2007, 02:48 AM
im uncut like most guys in europe, and yeah, it needs maintense every day, but has to stay clean:D. I was told that circumcised is healthier but just the thought of a doc with a sharp lance cutting my dick makes me sick. Never had a bad comment for being uncut, its like... natural lol No girl will be surprised here if your uncut. My gf loves my dick the way it is!

Villui
01-15-2007, 03:16 AM
eww man if its uncut it can get all funky ang get infected and shit

fastforyou84
01-15-2007, 05:10 AM
idk if this was mentioned or not but for us circumsized people my stoner idea came to be that what if we wore condoms all the time except when having sex or somethin wouldnt that bring the intensity back because it would be like having the foreskin. does that make sense?

trem0lo
01-15-2007, 06:08 AM
You circumsized guys have no idea how many less nerve endings you have! You can say how it's ugly and nasty and smelly (how would YOU know?) but a rolled back foreskin is like a condom--ribbed for her pleasure.

fastforyou84
01-15-2007, 06:25 PM
would the condom idea work tho?

JMRinFLA
01-15-2007, 06:59 PM
Uncut dicks look like anteaters and are just plain ugly!

fastforyou84
01-15-2007, 07:03 PM
You circumsized guys have no idea how many less nerve endings you have! You can say how it's ugly and nasty and smelly (how would YOU know?) but a rolled back foreskin is like a condom--ribbed for her pleasure.

But how do you uncircumsized people know that us circumsized people have many less nerve endings? lol

TallulahGreen
01-15-2007, 08:10 PM
I don't know why...but I don't find uncut penis' any uglier than cut penis'????

Markass
01-15-2007, 08:39 PM
i figured it out..the reason you always beat me to the post is..i am on the mods watch list. they have a 100 second delay on my posts like the radio censors do because of my voracious vocabulary and lack of patients for noo00obs.

lmao! nearly every single post of yours contains humor of some kind..amazing and keep the funny comments rolling :stoned:

peacetrain
01-15-2007, 08:50 PM
The reason I think most people find uncut dicks so repulsive is because we're brought up to think as such. No other place in the world is as obsessed with chopping off part of a guys dick.

Shaving your hair and cutting your nails are unnatural things for us to do, but they are small social sacrifices to fit in. Cutting off human flesh...is a little different. Especially if it doesn't do anything to make life significantly better...what other optional procedures are out there for babies?

Shannon
01-15-2007, 09:41 PM
:upsidedow
im non circumsized and im damn well staying that way. People say "oh its dirty, its nasty" but its not, its natural. Your dick will only be dirty and nasty if you dont wash it. Thats not a problem with your penis, its a problem with your personal hygeine.

Trues, being circumsized is fine, but not also has its advantages, i actually prefer the turtleneck.

fastforyou84
01-15-2007, 09:53 PM
shannon you are sexy ;-) (not to be offtopic here or anything lol but I love your eyes)

DemoCommando
01-15-2007, 10:16 PM
America at its finest: closeminded and absentminded. It's bullshit. Americans are brought up(usually, but not all) on just 1 point of view, anything else is treason and should be thought of as so. " The correct American way, just like a real American. Let's really believe our government because what they say is true!"
If you believe that, then look at how they portray ganja, can they not do that with anything else?

I'm uncut and godamn proud of it. I will never, ever circumsize my child. He can, later, if he WANTS to. If for any woman to deny me sex or be disgusted that I am uncut, then I AIN'T FUCKIN' HER! She can get the fuck outta my way and get the fuck outta my car/house.

I have been an anteater all my life and I really enjoy it. After seeing that movie on circumcision, it ain't happenin'.
Just the usual bullshit that everyone ASSUMES is true like dirtyness and fuckin' dumb closeminded stuff; and assumption makes an ass out of u and me.

I am now enraged. Need to be :stoned:

Dave

Jimmicrackedcorn
01-15-2007, 11:26 PM
Hahahahahaha..........You can smell your penis? You dirty pack of bastards! You shouldn't be able to smell ure dick unless you bend down with the intention of taking a whiff.......and why would you want to? Even if you are trying to save shower time, you'd rather smell your cock, or a dirty finger uve just applied to that special are, than just give it a courtesy wash when you shower?

To the women, is the sight of a penis particularly arousing, I don't find the meat flaps particularly attractive, not ugly, more like pussy nonchalance, but its either underneath my nose or my navel most of the time, I never really took the time out to study it, next time though I will.......when she's asleep.......freak the bitch out and wear an eyes wide shut mask and cape.....boo!:eek:

To the cut men, the thought of cutting a foreskin never even occured to me until I heard about the jewish faith, didn't understand why, but didn't particularly care, but the first q that came to mind is, doesn't it hurt when you're wearing jeans or something, cuz if ever my foreskin accidentally retracts when in a pair of levi's, I am visibally in quite a bit of discomfort, so much that I gotta actually pull it back down. Or is it toughened, like that of a jazz guitarists fingertips, answers on a postcard.

Platinum Plus
01-15-2007, 11:35 PM
i don't know what's better but i know i'm cut lol
i was born in a jewish hospital so they cut my shit haha
don't see no difference cut or uncut they'll leave a mess :p
but yea i'm happy i'm cut, no dick cheese....

fastforyou84
01-15-2007, 11:56 PM
Hahahahahaha..........You can smell your penis? You dirty pack of bastards! You shouldn't be able to smell ure dick unless you bend down with the intention of taking a whiff.......and why would you want to? Even if you are trying to save shower time, you'd rather smell your cock, or a dirty finger uve just applied to that special are, than just give it a courtesy wash when you shower?

To the women, is the sight of a penis particularly arousing, I don't find the meat flaps particularly attractive, not ugly, more like pussy nonchalance, but its either underneath my nose or my navel most of the time, I never really took the time out to study it, next time though I will.......when she's asleep.......freak the bitch out and wear an eyes wide shut mask and cape.....boo!:eek:

To the cut men, the thought of cutting a foreskin never even occured to me until I heard about the jewish faith, didn't understand why, but didn't particularly care, but the first q that came to mind is, doesn't it hurt when you're wearing jeans or something, cuz if ever my foreskin accidentally retracts when in a pair of levi's, I am visibally in quite a bit of discomfort, so much that I gotta actually pull it back down. Or is it toughened, like that of a jazz guitarists fingertips, answers on a postcard.

No it doesnt hurt whatsoever with jeans.

ValkyrieAg
01-16-2007, 09:05 AM
Lets not act like this is just a jewish thing. Everyone I know is circumsized. I was never brought up to believe that being uncircumsized is wrong. I developed that thought on my own when I saw one for the first time and went 'damn thats ugly'.

Abattoir Dream
01-16-2007, 09:27 AM
supposedly if ur curcumcised you have 50% less chance of gettin aids...

Spanish Leather
01-16-2007, 07:34 PM
supposedly if ur curcumcised you have 50% less chance of gettin aids...

There was an article about this in the NY Times Magazine this week.

HOWEVER, this is obviously not a solution to AIDS (i don't think you were going for that). I believe statistics like this b/c the foreskin is more likely to have microtears, hence allowing women's juices into them. Nevertheless, people who say that cutting boys is the "vacine" to AIDS i think are heading in the wrong direction and will give actually increase the AIDS problem, as many cut men will think that they have immunity.

SL

anangrymailman
01-17-2007, 12:25 AM
Bigger, longer, and uncut here! Well, at least uncut. People are commonly grossed/weirded out by things they aren't used to. Lets just grow up a litte. Besides, I'd rather get with a foreign girl anyway.

There nerve ending thing is definately true. I would not be able to walk around with my dick head rubbing against my pants all day. Just couldn't do it. It's too sensitive.

BLaQLiGhT
01-17-2007, 06:39 AM
There nerve ending thing is definately true. I would not be able to walk around with my dick head rubbing against my pants all day. Just couldn't do it. It's too sensitive.

Same here man, I think their heads are all rubbed out since when they were young and running around and shit...

harris22
01-17-2007, 07:50 AM
Dudes (gender-inclusive),
Re the sensitivity issue, I've noticed a marked change in sensitivity of the head of my penis when switching from boxers to briefs and back to boxers. When I go from boxers to the tighter briefs, it's uncomfortable at first how the head of my penis gets so much more contact with the fabric, but after a few weeks I get used to it. Similarly, it feels much different going back to boxers, and it's really painful going from underwear to commando - until my penis gets used to it. Because my sensitivity changes so much even though I'm cut, I don't think it's an issue of being cut... so I don't think cut people are any less sensitive. Those of you with foreskins, if you were to walk around with them retracted for a few days, I think you'd get used to it. That being said, I do think circumcision has shady justifications, and any sons of mine won't be having it done, because while it's harmless, it's also unnecessary.

mattmao
01-17-2007, 09:04 AM
stinkys spot on its a jewish thing and all about clenleness but any man with self respect should be clean at all times.make it easy shower before sex,sex in the shower,shower after sex.any females here been cercumcised?

mattmao
01-17-2007, 09:12 AM
after reading a lot of the replys it seems that a lot of you yank men go around looking at other peoples dicks!! something that has never intrested me.i am more intrested in my own dick,as long as its still hooked on and dont shoot to quick and is clean and comfortable in me trousers i'm happy,i dont care about anybodyelses dick.i'm so glad i live in the uk most of the blokes i know think the same way!!

Bob the Awesome
01-17-2007, 01:57 PM
But how do you uncircumsized people know that us circumsized people have many less nerve endings? lol

Simple, the foreskin has a lot of nerve endings. You chop it off, the nerve endings are no longer there. Hence, less nerve endings.

OK, let me highlight a couple things again:

Recently, a lot of different groups have been battling what is called "female genital mutilation" in Africa. When the girls come of a certain age (I believe it's like 12 or 13) they cut off parts of their genitals, not completely sure why but most like a religious or mystical reason.

This is considered mutilation.

In America, we take our baby boys, right after their born, and cut off part of their genitals. The reasons are based in, well, religion and mysticism.

This isn't considered mutilation, but it's not very different from what's going on in Africa. So allow me to say, circumcision is a form of genital mutilation

If Hell actually exists, I hope anyone who supports genital mutilation goes there.

If you want to dispute any of my points, go find something that shows that circumcision isn't genital mutilation, and go find something showing that circumcision isn't extremely painful.

Remember, they can't give babies painkillers. From what I've seen (If you've never seen a circumcision go watch one now) the babies go into shock. Anyone who would put a baby into shock intentionally is disgusting.

mackSwell
01-18-2007, 06:21 AM
In most US hospitals, it is now standard procedure for infants to be given a local or topical anesthetic prior to circumcision.

Article on circumcision analgesia-training rates:
http://www.webmd.com/content/article/125/115942?src=RSS_PUBLIC

The anesthetic itself is not without risks, but they are considerably lower than the risks of the circumcision surgery. Rates of complication from circumcision are estimated at 0.2%-0.6%, and most are minor.

American Academy of Pediatrics' Circumcision Policy Statement
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics%3b103/3/686

mackSwell
01-24-2007, 03:25 AM
idk if this was mentioned or not but for us circumsized people my stoner idea came to be that what if we wore condoms all the time except when having sex or somethin wouldnt that bring the intensity back because it would be like having the foreskin. does that make sense?


*laughing* I give you points for creativity...

I'm not a penis owner, so I can only speculate here... But I see several potential failings in this suggestion:

A) Is it not difficult to keep a condom snugly in place on a flaccid penis? If the thing is sliding around all day, it is going to cause more friction on the head rather than less. Perhaps even chafing! (Sorry guys, I know that made you wince.)

B) Latex isn't skin - Rubbing against it all day is going to be more similar to rubbing against clothing than to being protected by foreskin.

C) Your little man needs oxygen! Skin needs to breathe to be healthy.

D) Try putting your hand in a latex glove over night, then look at it in the morning. Now extrapolate - Do you want your Excalibur of Love to be all sallow and pruny?

Love your penis as it is, and others will love it for you. *grin*

hewhispers
01-24-2007, 03:34 AM
Bob the Awesome

Poor misguided Bob...stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

to compare the removal of foreskin, which is mostly done for cosmetics and social expectations, and which does not interfere with sexual or reproductive functions can NOT be compared to Female Genital Mutilation.

The word mutilation not only establishes clear linguistic distinction with male circumcision, but also, due to its strong negative connotations, emphasizes the gravity of the act.

The goal here is simple: it is the complete destruction of the female sexual organs in an effort to eliminate the female's sexual pleasure.

Quite different than a circumcision, Bob.

HiProGlow
01-24-2007, 03:46 AM
ROFLMAO Mack!<excalibur of love> Circumcision has turned out to be quite the heady subject. Lesson learned: anything that divides men, e.g. cut vs. uncut, skin tone vs. skin tone, rich vs. poor is nothing but a recipe for disaster! yikes! Peace.

Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-24-2007, 03:48 AM
circumcisions disrespect nature. i am a naturalist, so i am proud to BE a natural human being.

mackSwell
01-24-2007, 03:48 AM
*grin*

Sm0ker Steve
01-25-2007, 07:37 PM
I duno much cos me myself have a forskin but apparntly "no forskin is better for sex because there is more friction"

stinkyattic
01-25-2007, 08:32 PM
Recently, a lot of different groups have been battling what is called "female genital mutilation" in Africa. When the girls come of a certain age (I believe it's like 12 or 13) they cut off parts of their genitals, not completely sure why but most like a religious or mystical reason..

You need to finish reading up on this because it goes much further than that.
It is not mystical... it is to keep girls from wanting to have sex, as the cultures that support female genital mutilation still look at their women as property and women should have no sexual desire of their own; they are there to perform at the whim of their husband ONLY, and for the experience to be painful enough that she would not want to cheat on him.

Furthermore, on top of removing the clitoris entirely, SOME of these cultures also SEW the labia SHUT, making the act of taking a girls virginity a bloody mess that is glorious for the husband because all that blood means that he was FIRST, no doubt about it... however this also causes incredible problems when the girl starts menstruating, because the sloughed-off uterine lining cannot escape the body, leading to septic shock and in many cases- not rare, FREQUENT- DEATH.

So obviously a procedure that causes a woman incredible pain throughout her life, if she even lives long enough to HAVE sex for the first time, cannot POSSIBLY be compared to male circumsicion.




In America, we take our baby boys, right after their born, and cut off part of their genitals. The reasons are based in, well, religion and mysticism.
.

NO, the reason that circumsicion of males became part of religious custom was because of cleanliness, not to cause them pain for their entire lives!!!

And honestly, this world having been essentially run by men for virtually all of history, do you think the custom would still persist to this day if it caused NEAR the sort of trauma that female genital mutilation does?

dutch.lover
01-25-2007, 10:23 PM
Everything Stinky just said is true. If you want to learn more, or help this specific organization build a hospital to rebuild women's clitoris', check out this website (i donated to them about 2 weeks ago)

www.clitoraid.org

dutch.lover
01-25-2007, 10:34 PM
this website is specifically about removing the clitoris, it doesn't talk about sewing the labia shut (altho it does happen, like stinky was saying)

babystarbud
01-26-2007, 12:19 AM
interesting disussion,

i am un-cut, but have friends who are and its really not a big deal over here in europe...some do, some dont.

my view is that circumsicion is only justified on medical grounds, like when the foreskin is to tight, or whatever.

sanitary reasons are not valid, if the dick stinks, then so does the ass and the armpits.
anyone who takes care of personal hygene does not have these problems.

where i do have a problem is WHY its done in the firstplace, to a defenceless child. its utterly discusting.
doing that to a poor baby for non-medical reasons, because its trendy in your country is just horrific....perverted even.

like someone said, this is 2007 are there not laws against sexualy assaulting children?

dutch.lover
01-26-2007, 01:39 AM
i totally agree with you babystar

the only thing i wanted to add is that if the foreskin is too tight, there is a procedure to loosen it which doesn't involve circumcision. i just thought i'd mention that....especially since a tight foreskin is a big problem for a lot of guys, and there is a way to fix it (if stretching it themselves doesnt work.

mackSwell
02-24-2007, 01:45 AM
A previous study on circumcision as a preventitive factor in HIV infection has been confirmed. Risk is reduced by up to 60%.


Studies: Circumcision reduces HIV risk - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_he_me/aids_circumcision)

PullinFloodz
02-24-2007, 03:58 AM
After reading 5 pages of this discussion the only conclusion i can come to is that each person is biased to their own experience a.k.a if youre cut youre pro cutting if youre uncut your pro skin.. also i dont believe a female should have any say in this topic other then from a sight/taste/smell stand point because obviously unless theyre a transvestite they dont really know what it feels like to have a penis.. and personally i am cut and have no problems so i say cut away!

potsmokingnome
02-24-2007, 04:24 AM
I'm uncircumsized, and I hate it! but I'm too chicken shit to get it chopped off LOL Once I was dared to run around naked around the fire at a staff party..what can i say I was really drunk, so I did, and one of my female co workers couldn't stop starin at my uncircumsized penis! and she said "she's just never seen one before lol" and after that everybody at work bugged me about my tooke (sp?), and I worked at Denny's at the time lol resturuant humour is raunchy lol

russ-bob
02-24-2007, 05:03 AM
yea gnome i feel ya im uncut also and in amercia im in the minority... so some ppl just think its weird. meh hell with um i still do weird shit like streaking and just randomly being naked in public(i danced naked in a wal-mart parkinglot with my old gf it was her "fantisy")

~Russ~

mackSwell
02-24-2007, 04:12 PM
also i dont believe a female should have any say in this topic other then from a sight/taste/smell stand point because obviously unless theyre a transvestite they dont really know what it feels like to have a penis..

Yeah!
*macho stance*
Broads should be seen and not heard!

Or maybe:

The only thing chicks should say about penises is how much they like suck 'em!

Disregard the fact that many times it is WOMEN who are making this decision for their sons...

Disregard any relevant medical information referenced here if a WOMAN posted it...

In fact, why are we letting women learn to read and write in the first place? Send 'em to the kitchen to whip up a nice apple pie!

PullinFloodz
02-24-2007, 04:51 PM
hey now calm down i have no disrespect for women all im saying is that if there was a topic about cutting the hood off the clitoris or some whacked shit like that i would not post as to anything other then sight/touch from a male perspective because obviously i would have no damn idea about anything of actual feeling/experiences because obviously i dont have one.. and when i have a son i can guarentee it will be my decision not my wife's as to whether my son gets cut or not.. Not trying to be disrespectful at all just placing my personal view like everyone else

Mrs. Greenjeans
02-24-2007, 06:15 PM
pussy nonchalance

HA! That's just fucking funny.
::mrs.g is going to make a new tshirt::

Uncut dicks rock. I just like penises in general. Cut, uncut, doesn't matter to me.
I did a powerpoint presentation on circumcision in college. By the time I was done, the cut guys were all pissed at their parents.

Not Enough Herb
02-24-2007, 08:42 PM
1) Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's better. Do people cut their hair or shave? What about nails? Isn't it natural for nails to grow continuously? That doesn't mean cutting them isn't a better option.



dude one thing you forgot. foreskin doesnt grow like hair or nails. u cut ur hair and nails because they start to become annoying. I have never heard anyone say:

"you know, my foreskin has grown a bit, i think ill give it a trim!"

That doesnt happen man, your a tool

long live the ant eater

ps. all this talk about penis cutting is making me squirm.

d00d989
02-24-2007, 11:22 PM
Well lets see, there's the Jewish reason for circumcision, that of cleanliness, and I have to say I'm seriously in agreement with that. Clean is always good! To be a bit blunt, say you're out for a long hot summer day at the beach, want to go get jiggy with it in the dunes in the evening, and all you can smell is musty cheese-balls? Not happening! And forget oral... If I can smell it, it's not happening. End of story. So you guys still wearing the turtlenecks, it's not a bad idea to duck into the loo a few times a day and do a bit of maintenance under the hood...:D

what the fuck?

i dont know whose dirty cock you've been sucking, but my little bit of foreskin is not going to make any difference in smell at all

Breukelen advocaat
02-24-2007, 11:30 PM
When the kid is 18 he can decide for himself whether he wants his foreskin amputated. The parents have no business doing this mutilation to a baby or child, unless there is a medical necessity for it - which is very rare.

If the medical insurance companies stopped covering routine circumcisions the rate of this useless, destructive procedure will decline like a lead balloon.

P.S. to "stinkyattic": Women's genitals stink too, if their owners don't wash properly.

NewbiePacker
02-25-2007, 06:58 PM
At 18...what a fuckin nut, you can;t pull that shit when yer old. He should have just kept his hoody on his cock...big freakin deal..

Shit the Jews do it right...they have a briss...the fuckin rabbi comes over says a few words, and the snip it off the baby...then every one eats and drinks....


I was with an uncircumsized guy once. It was a but creepy, but I'd say only because I'm not used to it.

On a side note, I know someone who decided to get circumsized at the age of 18. His sexual experience was so changed (for the worse) that he now has MAJOR issues. He's so psychologically screwed up (due to that and other things) that I seriously doubt he'll ever have sex again, and I'm not exaggerating. A lot of sensation is lost in the circumcision process. Another difference between circumsized men and uncircumsized men, generally, and due to that loss of sensation, is that circumsized men typically last longer during sex. If I ever have a son, he will be circumsized, if only to keep him from deciding to do it later on in life, and regretting it forever. I'd just rather him remain in that ignorant bliss.

ziggy32
03-08-2007, 10:50 AM
When she saw my penis she was startled...lol...not because of it's enormous size, but because I'm circumsised
hahaha "not because of its enourmous size" - u pimp

Hardcore Newbie
03-08-2007, 07:45 PM
dude one thing you forgot. foreskin doesnt grow like hair or nails. u cut ur hair and nails because they start to become annoying. I have never heard anyone say:

"you know, my foreskin has grown a bit, i think ill give it a trim!"

That doesnt happen man, your a tool

long live the ant eater

ps. all this talk about penis cutting is making me squirm.Not only that, but your hair is DEAD. Your fingernails (the part that you cut) are DEAD. Last time I checked, my foreskin was alive. Oh yeah, it was covered in cock cheese and smelled like aids, but it still had feeling.

I never knew that being uncut might be perceived as a problem to some, or even viewed as grotesque. No one's ever turned me away because I wasn't cut. I do remember one of my old gf's asking me about it tho, because I was the first uncut guy she'd been with, but she said it didn't feel any different, we all look and feel the same when we're fucking I suppose :P

Nochowderforyou
03-08-2007, 11:29 PM
Last time I went to Amsterdam I met a girl and we got together. When she saw my penis she was startled...lol...not because of it's enormous size, but because I'm circumsised. She said she'd never seen one before, circumsised that is. She told me it's uncommon to be cirumcised in Europe. Is this true?


Yes, that is 100% true. Circumsizing is not common at all in Europe. :)

I came from Rotterdam, and I was not cut. My parents weren't silly enough to believe in a tradition of removing ones foreskin :rolleyes: It is a silly tradition in my eyes too. It's penis skin, maybe we should talk about the fat horking pigs out there with their excess skin. :p

Anyways, keeping it clean is as simple as a women keeping her snatch clean. You wash it in the shower like normal, and all that is different is pulling the skin back. That's all. Pull back, clean, done.

mafyew
03-08-2007, 11:42 PM
i wish i was uncut :( apparently there are techniques to regrow it, haha, fuck that tho.

Mean Green Charlene
03-08-2007, 11:44 PM
i wish i was uncut :( apparently there are techniques to regrow it, haha, fuck that tho.

I don't believe that.

Breukelen advocaat
03-09-2007, 02:23 AM
I don't believe that.

Foreskin Restoration can be done by surgery - or non-surgical skin expansion. The second method is more common. The nerve endings that were cut off cannot be replaced, but the new covering is supposed to increase sensitivity and provide a good replacement for the original foreskin.

Foreskin restoration for circumcised males (http://www.cirp.org/pages/restore.html)
NORM - News (http://www.norm.org/news.html)
NORM - The Joy of Uncircumcising (http://www.norm.org/joy.html)
Non-surgical Foreskin Restoration (http://www.infocirc.org/rest-e.htm)

stoneintheflesh
03-09-2007, 02:32 AM
cut is the ONLY way to be..

i've never heard anything but negative comments from bitches on this matter they hate the foreskin....

and i mean REAL females not the little fags who pose as females on the internet and are all sexually fucked up because the aren't cut....

good luck to all you uncut guys .

i'm sure theres plenty of stinky pussy out there for you...:stoned:

Nochowderforyou
03-09-2007, 03:44 PM
cut is the ONLY way to be..

i've never heard anything but negative comments from bitches on this matter they hate the foreskin....

and i mean REAL females not the little fags who pose as females on the internet and are all sexually fucked up because the aren't cut....

good luck to all you uncut guys .

i'm sure theres plenty of stinky pussy out there for you...:stoned:

It's quality over quanitity, and pussy isn't the first thing on my list.

Your posts scream insecurity. Maybe mommy didn't hug you enough as a child? Either way, mocking people is a sign of low self esteem.

dutch.lover
03-09-2007, 06:09 PM
would the condom idea work tho?

I don't know if this has been answered already (havent got to reading the rest of the thread), but YES that would work. It's actually recommended by doctors and sex therapists and stuff. You're supposed to cut the closed end off the condom first though, probably to allow airflow so you don't suffocate your penis. It does bring feeling back, because your penis is nice and protected instead of becoming desensitized by rubbing in your pants all day.

dutch.lover
03-09-2007, 06:16 PM
cut is the ONLY way to be..

i've never heard anything but negative comments from bitches on this matter they hate the foreskin....

and i mean REAL females not the little fags who pose as females on the internet and are all sexually fucked up because the aren't cut....

good luck to all you uncut guys .

i'm sure theres plenty of stinky pussy out there for you...:stoned:

I hope this guy is banned for good. SO disrespectful towards women (and rude to all you 'uncut' guys lol), it makes me sick.

Reefer Rogue
03-09-2007, 06:19 PM
I don't think it should be an issue and i don't think anyone should ever discriminate on either side. Ignore the hatred. An erect uncircumsized penis looks the same, anyway, when the skin is pulled back...

dutch.lover
03-09-2007, 06:25 PM
^^true. also, you uncut boys will soon make a comeback. the trend is moving away from circumcision in North America.

I know that if I had a baby, and it was a boy, I would NOT get him circumcised. I for one wouldn't want to take that choice away from him, and two, I wouldn't want to risk permanent injury (or dismemberment) just so he would fit the 'norm'.

Jizzle Blizzle420
03-09-2007, 06:31 PM
funny story....not really as funny as sad tho....when i was circumsized they fucked up and did it 2 tight! it doesnt look any diff then any other circumsized penis but the doctor told me mom when i started having sex i would be extremely sensative and probably have a stamina problem. its true but im over that now. it was a pain in the ass at the begining tho.

dutch.lover
03-09-2007, 06:51 PM
that's why circumcision just isn't worth it IMO.

your penis could be damaged or REMOVED!!! yikes