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Captain Hanks
01-07-2007, 12:24 AM
How many of you cannabis smokers are Christian and believe it to be a sacrement? I personally believe it was used by Christ, as the word "Christ" means the annointed one. In ancient times the word "Chist" or "Messiah" was only given to someone who has been annointed with the Holy Annointing Oil of Israel, and was strictly prohibited to the Kings and Priests. A look at Exodus 30 talks about the Holy Oil and it's ingredients wich include cassia, myrh, cinnamon, "calamus", and olive oil...
Now calamus was band by the FDA because it contains a poison, why would God command a poison to be used on his people? If you look at the origiginal language in wich the bible was written (Aramaic) you can see the word is not calamus but "quneh-bosm" and the second translation (Hebrew) the word translates as "kaneh-bosm". If you look in the Websters Hebrew dictionary this translates as cannabis and its' singular form "kannebos" wich sounds remarkably similar to cannabis! Kaneh translating as "hemp" and bosm translating as "aromatic". This has been confirmed by the authoritive Hebrew University in Israel (they have the most say on the Hebrew Language).
Strikingly the three wise men who visited at Jesus's birth were considered to be of the Zoroastrian faith. The Zoroastrian's drank a drink called "Haoma" wich has been documented to include cannabis. They're profit foretold a King would come for all mankind.
In Exodus God commands Moses to pour this oil over everything in the tabernacle, and on the incense alter (a.k.a. smoke). "And the tents were filled with smoke".
Herodus, Greek, commented on the scythians act of throwing cannabis on hot coals and trapping the smoke in tents wich he said made them howl with lafter. The scythians, prior known as the "ashkanaz" were relatives of Noah (ark dude).
It was a common Jewish ritual to pass around 22,000 incense holders among 60,000-80,000 men in the temple of Solomn... then they would go and have the biggest meal of the week as theyre Friday night tradition (munchies???).
Canna (the promised land of milk and honey) has been though to have contain large cannabis harvest. Canna short for canna...bis?
Re-discovered gnostic texts hid in caves from the flames of the Roman Catholic church during the Dark Ages hid their scrolls in caves and they talk about the hoily oil containing itense physcoactive effects as your entire body is literal one big organ.
5-7 are holy numbers in the bible (number of leaves on a pot leaf???)
"For I have given you every green herb bearing seed after its' own kind and to you it shall be fore MEAT"
cannabis is a herb bearing seed after its' own kind; it's green
"In later times SOME SHALL DEPART FROM THE FAIT, giving heed to FALSE DOCTRINES and abstaining from MEATS(refer meats to the prior verse) in wich I have given you"
"I will go into my dwelling place and consider like a clear heat upon herbs, and when the buds are harvested..."
"Herb for the service of men":rasta:
Masta Stuff
01-07-2007, 12:46 AM
Shit man, Thats nuts
4gan2ja0
01-07-2007, 12:57 AM
cool, i might just become christian:thumbsup:
not really though...
the yeag
01-07-2007, 01:00 AM
yeah!!! any of you bible thumpers know a good passage from the ~good book~ that i can recite ....that states preaching the good book to unwanted people is wrong? i want something to recite to tell the door to door christians to back off ...any HELP please
4gan2ja0
01-07-2007, 01:05 AM
yeah!!! any of you bible thumpers know a good passage from the ~good book~ that i can recite ....that states preaching the good book to unwanted people is wrong? i want something to recite to tell the door to door christians to back off ...any HELP please
man, i used to think you were a dick, but every post i read of yours makes me laugh so fucking hard, good stuff:jointsmile:
jaGerbom
01-07-2007, 01:11 AM
well that just adds to the things about weed i can tell my parents when i get caught!
(hopefully doesnt happen for a long time, or never)
thanks!
the yeag
01-07-2007, 02:47 AM
man, i used to think you were a dick, but every post i read of yours makes me laugh so fucking hard, good stuff:jointsmile:
well thank you my nuclear :jointsmile: blast shield of the north
Captain Hanks
01-07-2007, 03:39 AM
well that just adds to the things about weed i can tell my parents when i get caught!
(hopefully doesnt happen for a long time, or never)
thanks!
Haha nice, mine allready know all about it:rasta:
jayrollinhippy
01-07-2007, 05:43 PM
there is a lot of info at the thc-ministry.net site both christian and other religions are dicussed there as well as canatheism
Captain Hanks
01-07-2007, 06:47 PM
yeah the thc ministry is great. they even offer a prepared "holy annointing oil" for sale along with your constitutional rights to use cannabis because your freedom of religion and to practice that religion however neccesary.
seeing as the word christian means "annointed ones" we simply must use it to partake in our religion, unlike rastas where it is not a must. that is why for them they are often denied.
the joint meister
01-08-2007, 02:57 AM
im a christian and beleive me i annoint myself all the time ;)
greendove
01-08-2007, 04:30 AM
yeah!!! any of you bible thumpers know a good passage from the ~good book~ that i can recite ....that states preaching the good book to unwanted people is wrong? i want something to recite to tell the door to door christians to back off ...any HELP please
Ah, I wish I could find such a line, as well! I just end up politely telling them that I'm not interested, but that I wish them luck and good fortune. Then, I smile and close the door.
the yeag
01-08-2007, 04:35 AM
so i guess it was wrong of me this morning when i answered the door in my wife beater t shirt and said i already go to fucking church look i am wearing my st. christopher medal. now leave before i spray you with the garden hose
wrasler
01-08-2007, 09:25 AM
why try to justify it or not? does it feel right with your conscience? go by what you honestly feel in your spirit. according to the new testament, God sent his holy spirit to guide those who have accepted Jesus as their savior.
Hagbard Celiene
01-08-2007, 11:51 AM
yeah!!! any of you bible thumpers know a good passage from the ~good book~ that i can recite ....that states preaching the good book to unwanted people is wrong? i want something to recite to tell the door to door christians to back off ...any HELP please
Tell them that a house should be built on a rock, and thet your more of a beach kind-of-guy...
Antihero867
01-16-2007, 12:38 AM
yeah!!! any of you bible thumpers know a good passage from the ~good book~ that i can recite ....that states preaching the good book to unwanted people is wrong? i want something to recite to tell the door to door christians to back off ...any HELP please
Doubt anyone will find anything like that in the bible. The Roman Cathloic Church changed alot of the bible in the middle ages. Added and took out alot of things so that people would live more like they wanted them to.
2600HERTZ
01-16-2007, 01:00 AM
Annoint Me, Officer.
BlueCat
01-16-2007, 02:23 AM
Hi Captain..I'm not Christian but I know a few. :D I do believe Cannabis was used in biblical times. I sure enjoyed your post thanks a lot :)
Here is more about Canna...Jesus is quite the party dude check out the wedding party :D
Cana of Galilee Also known as Kfar / Kafar / Kafer - Kanna / Kana / Canna
He went again to Cana in Galilee, where he had changed the water into wine.' John 4:46 The name Cana (from Hebrew qanah "reed") appears in the Gospel of John on three separate occasions, and each time it is followed by "of Galilee," to distinguish it from another Cana (NIV Canah) on the border of Phoenicia, now Lebanon (see Joshua 19:28).
It was at Cana of Galilee that Jesus performed his first recorded public miracle by changing water into wine at a wedding feast (John 2:1-11). During a later visit, he cured the son of an official from Capernaum (John 4:46-53). [/url]
John also tells us that Nathanael, who according to tradition is the apostle Bartholomew, came from Cana. It was he who inquired of Philip, "Can anything good come out of Nazareth? (John 1:46). When Jesus saw Nathanael coming to meet him, he said: "Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!" (John 1:47).
Soon after his baptism in the Jordan River by John the Baptist, Jesus came to Cana in Galilee with his mother and his disciples to attend a wedding. According to the prevailing custom, the festivities began on the third day of the week and lasted seven days. The reclining guests ate on floor mats and, in the course of the week-long celebration, consumed large quantities of food and wine. There was rhythmic music and lively dancing.:rasta: But, in the course of the festivities, the hosts ran out of wine, causing them great embarrassment:
"On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus' mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. When the wine was gone, Jesus' mother said to him, 'They have no more wine.' 'Dear woman, why do you involve me?' Jesus replied. 'My time has not yet come.' His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever he tells you.' Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons. Jesus said to the servants, 'Fill the jars with water'; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, 'Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.' They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside and said, 'Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.' (John 2:1-10).
[URL]http://www.po-ip.com/english/kafar_cana/kafar_cana-e.htm (http://www.po-ip.com/english/kafar_cana/kafar_cana-pictures-e.htm)
Captain Hanks
01-27-2007, 06:54 AM
Glad to hear that BlueCat, and thanks for the reference. I remember reading that awhile back, more context added.
Captain Hanks
01-27-2007, 06:55 AM
Doubt anyone will find anything like that in the bible. The Roman Cathloic Church changed alot of the bible in the middle ages. Added and took out alot of things so that people would live more like they wanted them to.
If you read my post you would see that such verses do exist. Anyways I have heard much about this RMC consipiracy, sources? I am very interested in reading.:rasta:
MastaChronic
01-27-2007, 07:49 AM
idk where its found in the bible.but.i know that jesus said "it is not what goes into the mouth of the man that defileth him, but what comes out of the mouth of the man that defileth him"
he lived among cannabis eaters and was speaking in reference to them.
sharer6969
02-06-2007, 03:18 PM
While I'm a Christian and I do smoke, I don't feel the need to mystify it (my cannabis use) anymore than I would my taste for beer. It's just something that (in moderation) is a harmless form of recreation - though I will say that some of the best "pondering" I have done has been with a couple of drinks or a few tokes of some nice herb in me, so I guess it can be something more than recreational in that respect. Though, I also think the opposite can be true - I know plenty of people who think anything that comes to mind while they smoke is "profound", when the truth is they're just wrecked and don't know the difference anymore. :)
RichieRich
02-13-2007, 06:35 AM
While I'm a Christian and I do smoke, I don't feel the need to mystify it (my cannabis use) anymore than I would my taste for beer. It's just something that (in moderation) is a harmless form of recreation - though I will say that some of the best "pondering" I have done has been with a couple of drinks or a few tokes of some nice herb in me, so I guess it can be something more than recreational in that respect. Though, I also think the opposite can be true - I know plenty of people who think anything that comes to mind while they smoke is "profound", when the truth is they're just wrecked and don't know the difference anymore. :)
I think that is well said Sharer. I do enjoy the recreational side of the drug but I also greatly benefit from the medicinal values as well.
jsn9333
02-13-2007, 09:21 AM
People can try to read stuff into every verse in the Bible, whether it is about flowers or herbs or the land of Cannan, or whatever. But the fact is marijuana/cannabis and its psychedelic effects are not clearly referred to anywhere in the Christian Scriptures. I believe people who say it is strictly forbidden and people who say it is highly encouraged in the Scriptures are both reaching and reading things into the Scriptures.
That being said, alcohol is mentioned a lot in Scriptures, and quite clearly at that. There is no need to read anything into verses about alcohol and it is quite clear that Christ not only made wine, but he enjoyed it himself. It is also clear that getting sloppy drunk, however, is a sin. ("Do not be drunk with wine, but be filled with the Holy Spirit")
Given that marijuana is no more dangerous (and probably is less dangerous) then alcohol, I therefore presume it is okay in God's book... in moderation. Just like anything else I think the weed can become a "god" of sorts, and Christians who partake should definitely know to keep it in its place... a medicine or recreational drug to be used in moderation.
How many of you cannabis smokers are Christian and believe it to be a sacrement? I personally believe it was used by Christ, as the word "Christ" means the annointed one. In ancient times the word "Chist" or "Messiah" was only given to someone who has been annointed with the Holy Annointing Oil of Israel, and was strictly prohibited to the Kings and Priests. A look at Exodus 30 talks about the Holy Oil and it's ingredients wich include cassia, myrh, cinnamon, "calamus", and olive oil...
Now calamus was band by the FDA because it contains a poison, why would God command a poison to be used on his people? If you look at the origiginal language in wich the bible was written (Aramaic) you can see the word is not calamus but "quneh-bosm" and the second translation (Hebrew) the word translates as "kaneh-bosm". If you look in the Websters Hebrew dictionary this translates as cannabis and its' singular form "kannebos" wich sounds remarkably similar to cannabis! Kaneh translating as "hemp" and bosm translating as "aromatic". This has been confirmed by the authoritive Hebrew University in Israel (they have the most say on the Hebrew Language).
Strikingly the three wise men who visited at Jesus's birth were considered to be of the Zoroastrian faith. The Zoroastrian's drank a drink called "Haoma" wich has been documented to include cannabis. They're profit foretold a King would come for all mankind.
In Exodus God commands Moses to pour this oil over everything in the tabernacle, and on the incense alter (a.k.a. smoke). "And the tents were filled with smoke".
Herodus, Greek, commented on the scythians act of throwing cannabis on hot coals and trapping the smoke in tents wich he said made them howl with lafter. The scythians, prior known as the "ashkanaz" were relatives of Noah (ark dude).
It was a common Jewish ritual to pass around 22,000 incense holders among 60,000-80,000 men in the temple of Solomn... then they would go and have the biggest meal of the week as theyre Friday night tradition (munchies???).
Canna (the promised land of milk and honey) has been though to have contain large cannabis harvest. Canna short for canna...bis?
Re-discovered gnostic texts hid in caves from the flames of the Roman Catholic church during the Dark Ages hid their scrolls in caves and they talk about the hoily oil containing itense physcoactive effects as your entire body is literal one big organ.
5-7 are holy numbers in the bible (number of leaves on a pot leaf???)
"For I have given you every green herb bearing seed after its' own kind and to you it shall be fore MEAT"
cannabis is a herb bearing seed after its' own kind; it's green
"In later times SOME SHALL DEPART FROM THE FAIT, giving heed to FALSE DOCTRINES and abstaining from MEATS(refer meats to the prior verse) in wich I have given you"
"I will go into my dwelling place and consider like a clear heat upon herbs, and when the buds are harvested..."
"Herb for the service of men":rasta:
krazy chino
03-11-2007, 06:36 AM
if U like t.v. much more than God like for example if U decide to saty home on a sunday watchin t.v. instead of goin to church while havin the chance then dats a sin is kind of like idolizing so if U use weed that way then thats a sin as well but its just another leaf that God created but we can't choose that over God so my point is fillin UR body up wit happines from weed its not a sin da only way for it to be a sin is to idolize it and choose it before God ;)
MotleyCrueBoy24
03-11-2007, 08:53 PM
Well. I believe a higher power created Cannabis for Earth and it's inhabitants.
Pass That Shit
03-11-2007, 09:33 PM
Christian for Christ who made the cannabis. :pimp:
lazy smoker7
03-11-2007, 09:39 PM
also dont forget what god said in the bible
THEN GOD SAID, I GIVE YOU EVERY SEED-BEARING
PLANT ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE
EARTH, AND EVERY TREE THAT
HAS FRUIT IN IT."
GENESIS 1:29-30
Ilovesupras
03-13-2007, 07:58 AM
im a christian and beleive me i annoint myself all the time ;)
Amen :D
miraz
03-13-2007, 10:06 PM
Christians for Cannabis is one HUGE oxymoron...lol just joking.
jdmarcus59
03-20-2007, 04:22 PM
yeah!!! any of you bible thumpers know a good passage from the ~good book~ that i can recite ....that states preaching the good book to unwanted people is wrong? i want something to recite to tell the door to door christians to back off ...any HELP please
the people coming to your door are not christians. they are non christians
cult.
Mark Bryan
03-23-2007, 05:42 PM
the people coming to your door are not christians. they are non christians
cult.
They are wolves in sheep's clothin'!
med-user
03-26-2007, 08:09 AM
you shouldnt say people that come to your door are evil and not christians because christians do go door to door. im a God fearing man and try to go to church but can never find the time, i know that there is all sorts of groups that go to peoples doors, christian, morman, hell what else is there muslim, the damn pizza boy for all i care. its all about your personal walk with God. and i know the only requirement to be a christian is believing in god and his son Jesus Christ, which if im not wrong, which i could be this post was started by saying that jesus was created by leaders. he wasnt he was created by God. and its hard dening that Jesus did exist.. and he did perform miricles.. remember just my opinion.. with belief of Jesus Christ comes baptism and your own personal walk with God, and trust me HE will do the rest..... if you belive....
Buddha Man
03-26-2007, 11:49 PM
i dont think god cares to much if you smoke some natural herb. i mean he created it so he wants us to use it in some way. but wait...he created tobacco too, and doesnt tobacco kill? well the tobacco in cigarettes is not natural. it has a shitload of man-made additives which are the things that cause disease. if you smoke a pipe of natural fresh tobacco once in a while, it wont do damage. same with alcohol. i mean christians drink wine in church, and jesus turned water to wine. but god doesnt want you becoming a drunk.
so todays special word: REGULATION. use all substances in regulation, and you wont have to suffer the fires of hell:jointsmile:
Prunedale
03-28-2007, 05:31 AM
yeah!!! any of you bible thumpers know a good passage from the ~good book~ that i can recite ....that states preaching the good book to unwanted people is wrong? i want something to recite to tell the door to door christians to back off ...any HELP please
Put a sign up bro, don't be rude to your neighbor. The sign should read..
This house is not the lords house. Please leave us be. - The Damned
lol
Prunedale
03-28-2007, 05:32 AM
you shouldnt say people that come to your door are evil and not christians because christians do go door to door. im a God fearing man and try to go to church but can never find the time, i know that there is all sorts of groups that go to peoples doors, christian, morman, hell what else is there muslim, the damn pizza boy for all i care. its all about your personal walk with God. and i know the only requirement to be a christian is believing in god and his son Jesus Christ, which if im not wrong, which i could be this post was started by saying that jesus was created by leaders. he wasnt he was created by God. and its hard dening that Jesus did exist.. and he did perform miricles.. remember just my opinion.. with belief of Jesus Christ comes baptism and your own personal walk with God, and trust me HE will do the rest..... if you belive....
He doesn't want you to be afraid brother.
Mr. Happy
03-28-2007, 02:14 PM
I am a Christian. I have been smoking cannabis since I was 12 years old (25 years) and I have never found anything in my relationship with God to support the notion that cannabis is evil, of course not, it is a gift from God in my belief. Of course, if you identify with anything more than you identify with God, that is inevitably going to bring you suffering. Cannabis is definitely a spiritual drug, one that sewn in the heavens, but like anything else in this world of forms, it isn't meant to distract you from your relationship with God but perhaps to go deeper into it. Peace, Mr. Happy.
uzybear
04-04-2007, 10:05 AM
wow, surprised i'm not the only one. i'm a bible-believer; i believe that jesus christ is the son of god (and is god) and died for our sins on the cross, and that believing in him i accept his free gift of salvation and i repent from my sins and follow him
i don't go to church too much (should more i think), but i read the bible, i spent a couple years studying greek and hebrew
*sigh* ....I see this argument all too much...
To read -THAT- far into the old testament, i.e. saying things like "since Canna (which is really cannan, taking the N out is kinda cheating...) saounds kinda like cannabis it MUST mean that they grew it there" is just plain stupid, i don't know of any evidence ANYWHERE that even alludes to anything like that, it's only people who reach WAY too far to justify something to other people that say this crap.
Now, that being said, I don't believe there is anything wrong with weed, i'm a devoted follower of Jesus Christ and He's never said anything to me about not smoking. Jesus was very clear in His teaching that it is mens motives and actions that defile them, not what they put into their bodies. So no, there's nothing wrong with smoking weed (unless it makes you act like a dick and treat people in a less than loving manner) but I don't feel the need to make up theories about the scriptures to justify it...
RichieRich
05-04-2007, 06:26 AM
Put a sign up bro, don't be rude to your neighbor. The sign should read..
This house is not the lords house. Please leave us be. - The Damned
lol
Ok that was officially frickin hilarious! LMAO
God created it, he told us he did, it was used as holy oil in the bible, and it's been being used for thousands of years. It's here for a reason, well, many. If it were legal, we could put all of these into practise. Renewable fuel has to be the biggest one doesnt it? That and medicinal reasons. It works - we all know that, and it has been used for thousands if not millions of years as medicine. It helps people, it's natural, and it was completely fine to use untill recently. I belive Jah almigty is up there, and is happy for us to use it. It makes us better people, opens our eyes to the beauty he created. It allows us to relax - while at the same time think deeply, and contemplate. It can change peoples lives, for the better. I see no reason why Christians, or anyone else should have a problem with someone smoking a natural plant that was obviously made my God - as were everything else. They didnt have a problem with it untill the early 20th century, so what changed? Nothing, apart from the people.
geisha_grows
05-04-2007, 12:41 PM
all i gots to say is this:
CC11: Cannabis and the Christ: Jesus used Marijuana (http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc11/christ.html)
jesus was the anointed one
jesus gave the sacred anointing oil to everyone
this is why jesus was persecuted.
peace.
RedLocks
05-04-2007, 05:34 PM
yeah!!! any of you bible thumpers know a good passage from the ~good book~ that i can recite ....that states preaching the good book to unwanted people is wrong? i want something to recite to tell the door to door christians to back off ...any HELP please
One day I had some jehovah guys come to my door, have had it happen plenty times, but this one time he starts reading me things out of the bible and I am thinking god sthu I can read the bible my damn self.. So I asked him you must totally believe in all the bible to be coming door to door to read it to people huh? He sais something which I wasn't really listening to cause I was trying to recall a Bible passage's location in the bible but he basically said yes, so I leaned forward ad turned his tie around to read the lable which said something like 40% silk 60% rayon, something like that, then I asked to see his bible, looked through it for a min, read out loud Leviticus 19:19 which says that we shall not wear clothing woven of two fibers, and I told him your tie goes against what the bible says ya know, well gotta go got my kids upstairs and closed the door heh. I was hoping their Bible version said it like this I got lucky cause it did, other versions say woven of wool and linen. Actually I was also hoping that the tag on his tie wouldn't say 100% silk, no telling how fanatical he could have been about what the Bible says, after all, he showed up at my door to read it to me..
edit:: this was in no way a spur of the moment thing, I had been planning this for the next Jehovah that pissed me off
Bong ripper420
06-24-2007, 01:19 AM
i go to a catholic school, and i'm "catholic", and i can honestly say the catholic faith is so fucking polictical and corrupt. The church told the people who were touched by priests that if they told anyone about it they would go to hell, and the church just moved priests around to fondle more kids. I think at least a 1/2 of the people i see at church just go there to be seen by there neighbors and friends and dont pay attentionn to what the priest is saying. At church festivals people get drunk like its nothing from beer the church sells but they say we can't smoke a natural herb that god created for us.
Mr. Happy
12-17-2007, 08:52 PM
I don't believe that smoking pot is any different than any other idol of this world. I believe that pot should not take the place of our Holy relationship with Jesus but that the Holy Spirit can make good use out of pot if our priorities are clear. Otherwise, in my life anyway, it becomes meaningless. Thanks, Mr. Happy.
the people coming to your door are not christians. they are non christians
cult.
Agreed :)
klizaw
06-25-2009, 10:10 PM
I'm a recovering Catholic so I know their lies outnumber their facts. I was always the confused kid at Catholic school. None of it makes sense. Your's does. I'm of the belief that Jesus was a political activist and hated the top Jewish people for allowing the Romans to control them. The only history I could find of him other than the "Holy Bible" was the Dead Sea Scrolls and also that Romans only crucified people who we'd call terrorists today.
If anyone out there is a Hebrew and History expert, is there anyway you could send me an outline with sources so I can put something together like a presentation or pamphlet?
I am very active in getting this beautiful plant legalized and it's reputation as an amazing gift returned to it.
Thanks!:thumbsup:
cptcannabis
06-26-2009, 03:27 AM
There are some things that are corrupted by the Fall of Man, with sin infecting the rest of Creation. We can see that from the violence present in nature, carnivores, death, decay, and disease. And some might argue that cannabis should be lumped into this category. I find that hard to believe though. Hemp is an incredibly versatile material. It can be made into rope, textiles, and even plastics! Hemp sends exhibit almost a perfect protein found in no other plant in nature that rivals animal bound proteins found in meat and eggs. The roots aerate the soil in such a manner that it prepares the soil for future crops. Thomas Jefferson even praised the plant, saying that it was much more useful than tobacco and easier on the soil. As we all know, it provides relief from pain, appetite for those who suffer from disease, and rest for those who cannot sleep. It would be an incredible coincidence or struck of luck that a single plant could have so many benefits to man totally by accident and not by design.
klizaw
06-26-2009, 05:17 AM
Ron Paul and Barney Frank have introduced a bill in the House to legalize Hemp! Please write your Representative and spread the word. Below is a link. Thanks!
Ron Paul and Barney Frank Introduce Hemp Farming Legislation - HR 1866 | Ron Paul .com (http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-04-03/ron-paul-and-barney-frank-introduce-hemp-farming-legislation-hr-1866/)
klizaw
06-26-2009, 05:19 AM
You're dismissing 'idols' while idolizing Jesus.
klizaw
06-26-2009, 05:20 AM
I invite them in and refute everything they say with facts I've researched and it's a lot of fun. Try it!
klizaw
06-26-2009, 05:31 AM
Are you Christian meaning that you believe Jesus was born to a virgin, crucified to forgive all our sins, and then ascended into heaven?:wtf:
Or are you closer to the historical Christians that were a small sect that wanted to overthrow the Romans and corrupt Jewish officials and that Jesus was crucified because he was against the government?
You know that he had brothers and sisters and was married to Mary Magnolin and he didn't want to change the religion, just rid it of corruption. He wanted his brother James and Mary to take over the cause after his death.
He was a great man but equal to Ghandi and Martin Luther King, Jr.
:thumbsup:
klizaw
07-01-2009, 01:02 AM
You are absolutely correct but I wanted to add even more benefits. Because the 'Land of the free' won't allow any research to done on it except at the Mississippi College that still grows for 5 patients. But I have found a lot of scientific research from Canada, Holland, and a few others. Just before the 1937 Tax Stamp, the Dr's not knowing the propogand word 'marijuana' meant cannabis, they had just started discovering a wide range of health problems that cannabis would work great for. They had even discovered that the cannabanoids help fight cancer cells so they were very excited and then extrememly angry when they found out a few short days before the vote. They testified but it didn't matter because the whole point was to make a law that would help the police arrest Mexicans and then Blacks.
This plant is so amazing, besides the health benefits, and as a vegetarian afraid of soy, learning how much better the protien is in Hemp seeds makes me ecstatic.
It also produces cloth, constuction: higher quality than wood!, Fuel, and best yet, it's a crop you don't need to rotate because of it's root system and if So Cal would just plant some on the hills they woudln't have to worry about mudslides. They historically did that until 1937.
klizaw
07-01-2009, 01:06 AM
Is that the one Soma, the author of Organic Growing I believe and owns a shop in Amsterdam, advocates?
klizaw
07-01-2009, 02:31 AM
why try to justify it or not? does it feel right with your conscience? go by what you honestly feel in your spirit. according to the new testament, God sent his holy spirit to guide those who have accepted Jesus as their savior.
You all seem so enlightened until I read people talking about the New Testament like it's a history book instead the based on a real story, with more being made up than any actual facts. Check out the Dead Sea Scrolls that were written right after the crucifition by his actual followers. I'd call that a historical document but not the New Testament. It was altered by the Catholic Church way back during Constantine and nothing in it is witnessed first hand. I know Jesus was a brave, great man who was a lot more political than religious, learned from Historians. And he never, ever claimed to be THE son of god. Come on, if you want an example from the Bible as to how that got easily written in, he said "we are all children of god"
I'd like you to write, from what you have heard, word of mouth, about someone from over a century ago and see how accurate it is. Then send it to your editor and be made to alter facts to serve a purpose. It'll be as accurate, if not more so, than the 'holy bible'
klizaw
07-01-2009, 02:45 AM
:wtf:
if U like t.v. much more than God like for example if U decide to saty home on a sunday watchin t.v. instead of goin to church while havin the chance then dats a sin is kind of like idolizing so if U use weed that way then thats a sin as well but its just another leaf that God created but we can't choose that over God so my point is fillin UR body up wit happines from weed its not a sin da only way for it to be a sin is to idolize it and choose it before God ;)
So am i going to hell because I have only entered a church for weddings in the past 15 years? Church is a sin. It's a waste of time when I could be at the park with my dogs instead of listening to all the hyopocricy and fictional readings and then the great Homily about how the church needs money.
I was forced Catholic so maybe some protestant churches aren't so bad but first off, I follow Jesus' teachings because the world would be a better place if everyone did. But he was a man, a great man like Ghandi or MLK. I follow their teachings also.
klizaw
07-01-2009, 02:55 AM
:wtf:
you shouldnt say people that come to your door are evil and not christians because christians do go door to door. im a God fearing man and try to go to church but can never find the time, i know that there is all sorts of groups that go to peoples doors, christian, morman, hell what else is there muslim, the damn pizza boy for all i care. its all about your personal walk with God. and i know the only requirement to be a christian is believing in god and his son Jesus Christ, which if im not wrong, which i could be this post was started by saying that jesus was created by leaders. he wasnt he was created by God. and its hard dening that Jesus did exist.. and he did perform miricles.. remember just my opinion.. with belief of Jesus Christ comes baptism and your own personal walk with God, and trust me HE will do the rest..... if you belive....
I'd love to hear your sources on all these miracles and that Jesus was the son of god, especially since he said we are all children of god. Do you believe Mary was a virgin too? And the Bible doesn't count as a source. It is not an accurate historical document, closer to a fairy tale based on a political leader pissed off that the Head Jewish Priests were in bed with the Romans. that is proven though actual, credible historical documents.
Wake up! :cursing:
JfromThaBay
07-11-2009, 02:17 AM
How many of you cannabis smokers are Christian and believe it to be a sacrement?
*raises hand*
I'd like to point out that I'm not "religious." I don't follow a set of rules that man created. I have a personal relationship with Christ, am guided by the Holy Spirit, and believe that I am protected by the Heavenly Father. Going to a Catholic school for a 2 years really opened my eyes up to the many deceptions of organized religion. Also, the whole "my beliefs are right and yours are wrong" approach that most religious groups, no matter the religious affiliation, really put me off. I honestly believe that Cannabis can make the world a much more peaceful place; while most followers of major religions believe that MJ is the "Devil's Weed." I always marvel @ the power that prohibition and propaganda have. People are such sheep.
Hempsouth
07-11-2009, 03:19 AM
*raises hand*
I'd like to point out that I'm not "religious." I don't follow a set of rules that man created. I have a personal relationship with Christ, am guided by the Holy Spirit, and believe that I am protected by the Heavenly Father. Going to a Catholic school for a 2 years really opened my eyes up to the many deceptions of organized religion. Also, the whole "my beliefs are right and yours are wrong" approach that most religious groups, no matter the religious affiliation, really put me off. I honestly believe that Cannabis can make the world a much more peaceful place; while most followers of major religions believe that MJ is the "Devil's Weed." I always marvel @ the power that prohibition and propaganda have. People are such sheep.
Amen
Organized denominantional religion in itself causes division and strife. Not the way God intended for it turn out.
Mr. Happy
07-12-2009, 05:17 PM
You're dismissing 'idols' while idolizing Jesus.
I think it is an easy mistake to turn Jesus into an idol. Idolatry is an attempt to find salvation outside of yourself in some form. The church has focused primarily on the body of Jesus when his real message was that Christ is inside of all of us, as God is. Never seek for salvation outside of yourself. God is spirit and has nothing to do with the body, or idols. That's why it is so hard to communicate with God. We are constantly asking for ephemeral idols when God can only offer the eternal. Peace, MH
cptcannabis
07-12-2009, 05:41 PM
I think it is an easy mistake to turn Jesus into an idol. Idolatry is an attempt to find salvation outside of yourself in some form. The church has focused primarily on the body of Jesus when his real message was that Christ is inside of all of us, as God is. Never seek for salvation outside of yourself. God is spirit and has nothing to do with the body, or idols. That's why it is so hard to communicate with God. We are constantly asking for ephemeral idols when God can only offer the eternal. Peace, MH
The whole point of the fallen world needing a savior is due to the separation caused by our own sin from a holy & perfect God. God is separate from His own creation. It's not part of him, and He doesn't depend on it. The idea that God is within all of us is something straight out of the New Age movement and Eastern mysticism. You're not speaking of the Christian God, you're making statements that apply to Brahma from Hinduism. Your statements eliminate the need for God in your logic, so if you seek salvation from within, you have no need for a God that is not yourself.
The reason why it's hard to communicate with God, is because we're dirty, rotten sinners and God is holy. Our thoughts are not his thoughts, so we have a difficult time relating to a perfect being.
The whole "God can only offer the eternal" statement puts a limit on God, saying effectively that even though God created the universe, He can't relate with what he's created, because it's beyond his capacity. That simply isn't true. It would be like someone creating a robot and then that robot telling its creator that, "You can't understand me, because you're not a robot." The creator has to have intimate knowledge of his creation in order to even create it. Taking your statement to its final implications, if God can only offer the eternal, then having a relationship with Him on earth is pointless. The fact is though that God does understand us more than even we understand ourselves and can relate with us, because He created the world and everything in it.
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