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lil josh
12-28-2006, 11:19 PM
well yer im 15 and my gf is pregnant.


im nt 2 sure how it happend probz a broken condom or sumfink but basically yer im 15 n ma 14 yr old gf is having a baby what shud i do?

plz can this remain in this section, no mention of it outside this section as i dnt want ppl that dnt post hear nt to know bout ma personal life, ty.

orange floyd
12-28-2006, 11:22 PM
well yer im 15 and my gf is pregnant.


im nt 2 sure how it happend probz a broken condom or sumfink but basically yer im 15 n ma 14 yr old gf is having a baby what shud i do?

plz can this remain in this section, no mention of it outside this section as i dnt want ppl that dnt post hear nt to know bout ma personal life, ty.


1. adoption (probably best choice)
2. raise the kid, and take it like a man
3. abortion

MastaChronic
12-28-2006, 11:23 PM
have you talked to her about an abortion?
abortion is the way to go man, the world already has enough teen moms, and just people in general.
plus, you can make some money off of the fetus by selling it on ebay or to scientists performing stem cell research or selling it to a chinese restaurant.

b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
12-28-2006, 11:26 PM
have you talked to her about an abortion?
abortion is the way to go man, the world already has enough teen moms, and just people in general.
plus, you can make some money off of the fetus by selling it on ebay or to scientists performing stem cell research or selling it to a chinese restaurant.

dude.. you're not good at this kinda advice are you?

I agree with orange floyd, let it go for adoption. Im sorry but you really are stupid, i mean 15?! and shes only 14? christ.. she was 12 two years ago.. 12!

but yeah letting someone who wants a baby take care of it is alot better then killing the poor guy. Hey its not the babys fault she got pregnant is it?

lil josh
12-28-2006, 11:27 PM
have you talked to her about an abortion?
abortion is the way to go man, the world already has enough teen moms, and just people in general.
plus, you can make some money off of the fetus by selling it on ebay or to scientists performing stem cell research or selling it to a chinese restaurant.

dude plz dnt make jokes about my baby to be......

this is a serious subject, all my m8s have told me to push her down the stairs or kick her in the stomach or to ''accidently'' push her in front of oncoming traffic and i really dnt find it funny

b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
12-28-2006, 11:32 PM
this is a serious subject, all my m8s have told me to push her down the stairs or kick her in the stomach or to ''accidently'' push her in front of oncoming traffic and i really dnt find it funny

I have a mate and his dad did that to his mum when she was pregnant with him. Seroiusly, dont do shit like that, adoption dude. You're not KILLING a baby and you're not giving up you're childhood (since your still considered a child.. i mean 15 and 14? JESUS CHRIST) but instead of taking away someones LIFE you'd be giving the child a loving home and the CHANCE to live.

Imagine if you found out u was an accident and one of you're parents wanted to abort you? imagine it.

Its a Plant
12-28-2006, 11:33 PM
Brenda's got a baby, but Brenda's barely got a brain.

Sorry...some Tupac felt right.

MastaChronic
12-28-2006, 11:51 PM
dude plz dnt make jokes about my baby to be......

this is a serious subject, all my m8s have told me to push her down the stairs or kick her in the stomach or to ''accidently'' push her in front of oncoming traffic and i really dnt find it funny

okay okay, i was kind of joking about selling it (but you could if you wanted to)
i am serious about abortion though, its technically not alive until the third trimester, until then it is on par with a tumor.

Reefer Rogue
12-28-2006, 11:52 PM
What should you do? Follow your heart man, do your very best. Communicate. Think. Do you think she'll have the baby?

someuser
12-28-2006, 11:52 PM
You want advice lil josh, go talk to your gf. Asking a bunch of pot heads what to do means jack shit and jack left town. In the end it is her body and she is going to have the final say. I suggest BEING there for her and talking with her and seeing what SHE wants to do instead of selfishly thinking of what YOU should do.

I have a 4yrs daughter and it was hardly planned (from a one night stand)... Yeah being a dad is a big responsibility but it can also be the BEST thing that ever happened to you whether you think so or not right now.


Good luck man and try not to worry so much... A baby is better then getting HIV ;)

b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
12-28-2006, 11:57 PM
okay okay, i was kind of joking about selling it (but you could if you wanted to)
i am serious about abortion though, its technically not alive until the third trimester, until then it is on par with a tumor.

but you're still PREVENTING something from having a life.. imagine 20 years from now that thing will have a life, friends, would of gone to school, maybe even go to college. Man, i dunno how you can talk about abortion like its nothing. If you're parents aborted you then you wouldnt even fuckin be here dude

Its a Plant
12-29-2006, 12:17 AM
Preventing isn't a crime . .

Morally, however, that might be another story.

It's just science. ~

KindMidasSoundman
12-29-2006, 12:22 AM
You want advice lil josh, go talk to your gf. Asking a bunch of pot heads what to do means jack shit and jack left town. In the end it is her body and she is going to have the final say. I suggest BEING there for her and talking with her and seeing what SHE wants to do instead of selfishly thinking of what YOU should do.

I have a 4yrs daughter and it was hardly planned (from a one night stand)... Yeah being a dad is a big responsibility but it can also be the BEST thing that ever happened to you whether you think so or not right now.


Good luck man and try not to worry so much... A baby is better then getting HIV ;)

listen to this guy's advice :rolleyes: (not rolling my eyes, trying to indicate to look above)

MastaChronic
12-29-2006, 12:28 AM
but you're still PREVENTING something from having a life.. imagine 20 years from now that thing will have a life, friends, would of gone to school, maybe even go to college. Man, i dunno how you can talk about abortion like its nothing. If you're parents aborted you then you wouldnt even fuckin be here dude

i my mom told me my dad wanted me aborted and she was thinking about it seriously but didnt go through with it.
i can understand why my dad wouldnt have wanted me, because my mom tells me im a lot like him.

no offense, but your going on what can be, but it hasnt happened.
twenty years from now i could be president of the united states, but that is just a possibility and so it doesnt have any effect on my life right now, none, zilch.
this is just my opinion, but i would much rather prevent a life and keep mine.
that thing doesnt have a life yet, i still got mine. if it was born and i had to take care of it, there goes my life so that that this thing can have one.

Radiohead89
12-29-2006, 12:52 AM
eat the baby when its born... Nothing like a good baby leg for dinner :D

BabyFacedAbortion
12-29-2006, 01:05 AM
I hate to be the one to say this but there's a good she'll miscarry being that young, her body is hardly deleloped enough to properly create a baby.

birdgirl73
12-29-2006, 02:05 AM
Sorry about the news, Lil Josh. What MastaC, our resident intellectual and king of sensitivity, was telling you about it not being a life till the third trimester is not true. It's a life from the moment it's conceived. Whether or not it's a viable life capable of living outside the womb is another matter entirely. That generally happens sometime after 25 weeks of gestation (a full-term pregnancy is 40 weeks).

Definitely talk to your girlfriend. Sure, you two made that baby together, but she's the one who has to carry it in her body and bear the greatest part of the burden of raising it through infancy. I hope you'll both give very serious consideration to adoption. There are so many couples who'd love to adopt a baby, and if you two decide to pursue that route, you'll be doing a very courageous, generous thing.

You two are still kids yourselves. Even under the best of circumstances when you're married, educated, and have well-paying jobs, child-rearing is a huge responsibility. It turns your life upside down, even when you're ready for it and plan the pregnancy. That's why I hope you'll consider giving that baby to a couple who desires that responsibility. Because it's a huge one. And it goes on for more than 20 years if you do right by the child.

Get to the doctor so she can get evaluated and begin disucssing her options. If adoption is a good option for you, in England, just like in America, there are private solicitors (attorneys) who handle adoptions, and that's a way you can make sure her medical expenses are covered, or she can go to an adoption facility for unwed mothers to wait out her pregnancy. Please at least give serious consideration to this option.

lil josh
12-29-2006, 02:06 AM
I hate to be the one to say this but there's a good she'll miscarry being that young, her body is hardly deleloped enough to properly create a baby.

yes we have both read about this and this is one of the main factors that is causing us to concider abortion.

i would really like to have a bbay with this girl just not at this age, if she was to keep the child i would be there for it 24/7 when it cries i would be there to wipe its tears when it is scared i would be there to turn on a light, this baby could be the best thing to ever hapen to me but im at such a crossroads right now.

b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
12-29-2006, 02:42 AM
yes we have both read about this and this is one of the main factors that is causing us to concider abortion.

i would really like to have a bbay with this girl just not at this age, if she was to keep the child i would be there for it 24/7 when it cries i would be there to wipe its tears when it is scared i would be there to turn on a light, this baby could be the best thing to ever hapen to me but im at such a crossroads right now.

man to be saying that shit at 15, i know it must be hard to accept somethin like that. It'd be ALOT of work, sleepless nights, ull have no money, they'll be sarcastic with you, mean, hyper, restless.. and this will be going on for years and years.. but im sure it'd be all worth while when in years to come you can see something you made grow up and stand on they're own 2 feet and go into the world with what you taught them..

But yeah, you need to go see a doctor, and i mean both of you together, not just her..

btw, do you're parents know yet? they're gonna be spending alot of time with this baby too.. thats if you don't get rid of it or have a miscarage of course

lil josh
12-29-2006, 03:47 AM
well basically adoption isnt a option as neither of us could bear to bring a baby in2 this world and have it grow up thinking that its parents didnt want/love it when it was born, so its either raise it together of have an abortion.

both of our parents are awear of the situation neither of them are happy but they have said they will stick by us no matter what our desision is they have also said that there not going to make it for us.

lol its good to know im not fiering blanks so to speak lol

all jokes aside ty ppl your are being verry helpfull right now.

she is going to the hospital tomorow to find out a little bit more like how far she is ect..im going with her of corse :) i think due to my age and everyone expecting me to not supprt my gf its making me want to support her and be there for her even more.

MastaChronic
12-29-2006, 04:08 AM
Sorry about the news, Lil Josh. What MastaC, our resident intellectual and king of sensitivity.

thankyou bird girl!
i will graciously accept this kind and *very* generous compliment
:D

birdgirl73
12-29-2006, 04:12 AM
Sometime--and I pray that it'll be soon--I hope you'll learn that making the selfless decision to let people who are more suited to raise a baby would be the ultimate act of loving and taking care of that child. Life is hard enough under the best of circumstances for kids today. And there are ways for the child not to feel he/she was rejected. Open adoptions, for instance. You have to step back and look at it from a selfless, what's-good-for-the-child perspective rather than an I-couldn't-bear-to-give-it-away perspective.

I hope to goodness you both have intelligent, caring parents.

Frivolous248
12-29-2006, 04:20 AM
Well, good luck...Its good that you're willing to man up if she does have a kid, but its going to be HARD to raise a child when you still are one.

Hopefully your parents will help, especially financially-wise. You should definitely get a job too and do your part to support it. Hell dude, look for a job now. Oh wait...your 15, well still look. Then you can save up a bunch of money that will all go to that kid if its born.

rottenPauL
12-29-2006, 04:36 AM
i think if this kid recieves true love from u, your gf and your parents, can be raised properly. And along with it, you grow up yourself. You r only 15 but thats not bad, a responsibility like this will make you mature and strong to face life. And dont feel lost, life is hard and nobody will show any mercy, take my word on this, but life is also beautiful, and its not short, it is as big as we make it. Life decided to make you grow up earlier, please dont turn your back on that decision. And dont kill your child. Raise it, its in your hand.

harris7
12-29-2006, 04:49 AM
I have spoke on one similar thread to this, and I’ll pretty much say the same thing.

Lets all stop polling our opinions. For this young lad is not you and he is not here for your opinion but for your advice.

I’m going to do my best to lay out some things to think about and try to make it unbiased but I’m sure it will be a little bit. Sorry for that. So, just so you know I am pro-choice. This means I believe everyone should be able to choose and not be forced to keep it.

You know you have three options abortion, adoption and acceptance.
Here is what I know and what I’ve thought about all of them:

Abortion-
since you know early on that she is pregnant you can use a chemical method. This has some side effects on the woman but I do not believe it is life threatening.(look into this b4 you do it, if you do it)

-Most objection to abortion is on religious and moral grounds. Pro-life people generally believe that the embryo or fetus is a human life and should be held equal to every other human life. Thus they consider it murder.
Yes, birdgril is correct it is a “life” in the way any cell is a life. This is not meant to be against abortion it is just a scientific fact.

-What I think is most important is that any grounds to support or not support abortion are not on scientific grounds it is 100% a matter or opinion and morality. This is why I am so opposed to people shoving their opinions down your throat, the choice is yours.

-Pragmatically if you consider the three individuals (mother, father and the child you create) in the two possible states. The fist having the kid now; the second having the kid in 15 years when you plan it. All three parties are better off in the second situation. This is not ment to be biased just something to consider

Adoption
-if you consider adoption you should consider the effects of child birth on the mother. I’m sure it is very hard on such young girls to have kids.
Is her life at risk? (I don’t know but you should check it out)

-by choosing adoption you avoid sacrificing your morals and avoid much of the negative consequences of having a child this young.
-but, will giving away a child you created affect your psychological state for the rest of your life? Ei. Will you feel guilty

Acceptance

-It will be difficult for you to provide the same quality of life you received for your child, as you are so young. This will make it harder to go to university or even stay in school now. If you choose this I hope you have a loving family to help you.

-I feel it is important for me to highlight the impact or rearing a young child. Young children go through several periods called critical periods. During this time they need certain kinds of stimulus to achieve their potential, physically and psychologically. These stimuli come in many forms and largely involve huge amounts of interaction with their parents and peers. Why I mention this is because you will probably not be in very good financial shape and may not be able to supply them with proper food or daycare and it can have a very significant permanent effect. Just something to think about.

dutch.lover
12-29-2006, 04:50 AM
I am personally quite against abortion (surprising i know, since i am so liberal in all other aspects of sexuality), but I don't think raising a child would be the best idea for you either. Raising a baby will literally strip you of your childhood, and will take away your normal teenage years, where you party, go to university, etc. As for the baby, I can tell by the way you describe yourself and your parents, it will be deeply loved and cared for, but I still don't think it would have the best life it could have if it is being raised by children. A baby deserves all the best, and your lack of life experience (inevitable at your age, i don't mean to sound insulting at all) coupled with your lack of finances, is going to hinder that. I would suggest adoption, I know it's not a perfect solution, but I think it would be the best.

dutch.lover
12-29-2006, 04:56 AM
In response to Harris7's comment about giving our opinions, I like to tell you all what my opinions are up front, so you know what my biases are, and can judge my writings accordingly. The reason I am against abortion, if anyone is wondering, is because of the thought that I am killing a child. This may or may not be the case scientifically (ie, what defines when a person is a person), but that's how I feel...

officerleeroy
12-29-2006, 05:24 AM
One of my close friends got pregnant when she was 17 and was considering an abortion. She went to the doctor when she was around 3 weeks and you could already see a heartbeat. Needless to say she went through with it. I myself don't like the idea of abortion but I think you should just go with whatevery your girl wants. Good luck.

someuser
12-29-2006, 08:36 AM
My ex-gf that I've talked about a few times here had an abortion, after my prompting, when we were teenagers. I loved that girl more then life itself (still do) but it torn us apart.

Till today she tells me she is haunted by what she did... Abortion is a very personal choice and despite my experience I'm still pro-choice... But, I personally would never want to go through that again and I especially wouldnt want to put another girl through that again... It's tough... She was like 3 months along and we had a ultra sound done (before 'we' decided what we were going to do)... I can still close my eyes and see my baby... A baby I had with a woman I loved more then anything else in life... And now it is gone forever... Just like my ex.


Think real hard before you go down that path.

Torog
12-29-2006, 12:28 PM
okay okay, i was kind of joking about selling it (but you could if you wanted to)
i am serious about abortion though, its technically not alive until the third trimester, until then it is on par with a tumor.

Howdy chronic,

Take a look,at the pic of a baby,at 20 weeks..and tell us again,that it's just a "tumor" :mad:

Then take a look,at the pic of what you want Lil Josh to do to his son or daughter. :mad:

I hope and pray..that Josh and his girlfriend,won't choose to murder their un-born son or daughter. :)

Have a good one ...

Skink
12-29-2006, 07:01 PM
I hope that whatever you 2 decide,,,you two will live happily with the decision... I did not comb this thread too hard but,,, what I want to know is,,, how is the Family life in your own Families??? Are they Aware,,,if so what is their response,,,reaction???

how do you know she is Pregnant ???

lil josh
12-29-2006, 07:31 PM
ok this is how it happend. we was having sex both slightly drunk i took the condom of so she could give me head then she climbed on top of me and started riding me both of us 4getting about the condom, anyways i bust a nut in her as i went to take the condom of i realised it was not there.

hope this answers your questions and im sorry if it was a bit graphic.

birdgirl i know you quoted me on 'i-could-not-bear...' but you didnt include the rest of that sentance 'the-baby-thinking-its-parents-didnt-love-it'.

honestly i think we only have 2 options and thats 1.abortion 2.keeping it

d4veg
12-29-2006, 07:41 PM
adoption would be best in my opinion

gabee42ee
12-29-2006, 08:14 PM
i had an abortion when i was 16 and for me it was really hard but now that i think about it it was the best choice i ever made ... i can't imagine having a child and giving it up for adoption but thats just me ... i personaly think an abortion is the best way to go ... esp. if shes 14 .... being pregant culd ruin her rep. at school ... and even though it doesnt matter wut people think it wuld still be hard being known as the 14 yr old whos pregant

good luck i know its not easy

lil josh
12-29-2006, 09:49 PM
the main thing is we dont want the baby to think its parents didnt love it, and children can be so crule comments such as your parents didnt love you ect...i wouldnt want to put a human being through this

stinkyattic
12-29-2006, 10:10 PM
At 14 it is too hard on a girl's -and yes I mean GIRL not WOMAN-body to carry and deliver a baby. Her bones are not even fully developed yet and the stress of a developing fetus could really harm her... carrying a baby whose own skeleton is developing leaches precious calcium from the mother's body, not to mention delivery will be very dangerous.

In my opinion for what it's worth, she should go see a doctor like YESTERDAY about having the pregnancy terminated immediately.

jaGerbom
12-29-2006, 10:17 PM
my aunt and uncle have adopted two kids...and my grandparents have been foster parents and have adopted kids all their lives and i would strongly recomend adoption....give your kid a chance to experience life and give a good couple the chance to have a kid of their own and love it. If you go with abortion ur not only killing an unborn baby....ur effecting MANY people...watch the movie its a wonderful life....after watching that u can see how just one life can affect so many people and things...pleeease put it up for adoption

stinkyattic
12-29-2006, 10:23 PM
I would rather see an unborn fetus terminated than see your girlfriend suffer the health problems and yes, the unfortunate but true social stigma that she will carry, from bearing a child at such a young age. Her life is worth the most. You should do everything to protect her... THAT is true honor and responsibility.

Samwhore
12-29-2006, 10:25 PM
nice job ruining her life, my mom had me when she was 16, i think about it now, and at this very moment she was pregnant with me, i ruined my moms life, she kept me but people still gave her bullshit and said that i would never amount to anything because i would be raised on the streets and shit like that, people were complete dicks to my mom, if i was your girlfriend id have an abortion, my mom already had enough torture and thats enough for one teenage mom

stinkyattic
12-29-2006, 10:37 PM
nice job ruining her life,


Whoa nellie... you make some other good points but that's harsh... I'm not lil josh's biggest fan for other posts, but I understand the terror that he must be going through right now... not really the time to give a lecture on condoms or why exactly a 14 year old girl was drunk... lil josh, my heart goes out to you and your girlfriend, really, I know how frightening it is and I'm sure you've already learned a lesson... any choice you make is going to be painful to follow through with for one reason or another... you are both going to want to talk to a therapist after this whole thing is over. Decide fast because chemical abortion is going to be a lot less emotionally scarring than the traditional sort... I've had 2 close girlfriends who waited too long for it to be an option and they were both pretty traumatized by the experience.

I guess the last thing I want to say is that I hope you are both close enough with your families to talk to them about it... as much as the canncom crowd is here 24 hours a day, so are your parents, and I'll bet they love you more than we do.

Shannon
12-29-2006, 10:47 PM
I hate to sound like the heartless one here but i think abortion is the best way, neither of you have the money or time to take care of a baby, but i think you should give her the choice.

Samwhore
12-29-2006, 10:47 PM
Whoa nellie... you make some other good points but that's harsh... I'm not lil josh's biggest fan for other posts, but I understand the terror that he must be going through right now... not really the time to give a lecture on condoms or why exactly a 14 year old girl was drunk... lil josh, my heart goes out to you and your girlfriend, really, I know how frightening it is and I'm sure you've already learned a lesson... any choice you make is going to be painful to follow through with for one reason or another... you are both going to want to talk to a therapist after this whole thing is over. Decide fast because chemical abortion is going to be a lot less emotionally scarring than the traditional sort... I've had 2 close girlfriends who waited too long for it to be an option and they were both pretty traumatized by the experience.

I guess the last thing I want to say is that I hope you are both close enough with your families to talk to them about it... as much as the canncom crowd is here 24 hours a day, so are your parents, and I'll bet they love you more than we do.

sorry, its just that you cant undo the suffering that my mom took, i know i ruined her life but she wont admit it, i try and everyone who gave my mom shit, ive fucking kicked their ass, im all my mom had and i try to make her proud, i love my mother and only wish i came a little later on in her life

Skink
12-29-2006, 10:54 PM
Removed by better Judgement... Sometimes yanno...

birdgirl73
12-29-2006, 11:06 PM
sorry, its just that you cant undo the suffering that my mom took, i know i ruined her life but she wont admit it, i try and everyone who gave my mom shit, ive fucking kicked their ass, im all my mom had and i try to make her proud, i love my mother and only wish i came a little later on in her life
Sam, I think I've known you long enough to say this to you, and I hope you'll listen real well. You didn't ruin anyone's life. You are a good girl who has made your mom proud. Seriously, you are a loving daughter and have been a gift to her. Don't tell yourself otherwise. You may have been the result of an unplanned pregnancy, but if anyone in those circumstances is guilty of "ruining," it's not the baby. It's the people who let themselves get unexpectedly pregnant. Babies are the innocent ones in these equations. Please don't beat yourself up for having resulted from an unexpected pregnancy or term yourself as responsible for someone else's suffering. We all go through challenges and endure rough stuff, and all kids, even in the best of circumstances, put their parents through agony at times. You and your mom have beaten the odds, and you're a great kid. Your mom loves you, and so so lot of other folks! :)

Samwhore
12-29-2006, 11:25 PM
Sam, I think I've known you long enough to say this to you, and I hope you'll listen real well. You didn't ruin anyone's life. You are a good girl who has made your mom proud. Seriously, you are a loving daughter and have been a gift to her. Don't tell yourself otherwise. You may have been the result of an unplanned pregnancy, but if anyone in those circumstances is guilty of "ruining," it's not the baby. It's the people who let themselves get unexpectedly pregnant. Babies are the innocent ones in these equations. Please don't beat yourself up for having resulted from an unexpected pregnancy or term yourself as responsible for someone else's suffering. We all go through challenges and endure rough stuff, and all kids, even in the best of circumstances, put their parents through agony at times. You and your mom have beaten the odds, and you're a great kid. Your mom loves you, and so so lot of other folks! :)

aww, thanks, but im completely okay with being my moms accident, thats why i can truthfully say i was, ive accepted that fact and love my mother, thats why i dont want anyone else (lil josh's girlfriend) to suffer like she did,

MastaChronic
12-30-2006, 02:18 AM
Howdy chronic,

Take a look,at the pic of a baby,at 20 weeks..and tell us again,that it's just a "tumor" :mad:

Then take a look,at the pic of what you want Lil Josh to do to his son or daughter. :mad:

I hope and pray..that Josh and his girlfriend,won't choose to murder their un-born son or daughter. :)

Have a good one ...

dude, do you know where i could get a poster of the second pic?
that is cool looking.
perhaps you know the location of a video.....?
tumor: is attached to carrier, takes away nutrients from the carrier, sometimes fatal, it grows
baby: is attached to host, takes away nutrients from its host, sometimes fatal, it grows, eventually becomes a human.
theres not much difference between the two.
idk why peope attach such emotions to things.
we have....what was it? 6 billion people on this planet? we do not need anymore.

birdgirl73
12-30-2006, 02:28 AM
The difference, MastaC, is that last part of the second phrase, "eventually becomes a human." Actually, there's no eventuality about it. It is a human. And that's why there's a world of difference between a fetus and a tumor--and why intelligent, caring people attach such emotions to pregnancies, even early ones.

MastaChronic
12-30-2006, 02:34 AM
The difference, MastaC, is that last part of the second phrase, "eventually becomes a human." Actually, there's no eventuality about it. It is a human. And that's why there's a world of difference between a fetus and a tumor--and why intelligent, caring people attach such emotions to pregnancies, even early ones.

but it is still a part of the woman, and because it is, she has every right to have it removed, human or not.

birdgirl73
12-30-2006, 02:42 AM
You won't get any argument from me on that one, MastaC. She does have that right and should retain it. I simply wish that people wouldn't exercise that right with the frequency that they do. Above all, I wish they'd practice safe sex so they wouldn't ever find themselves in such a situation. It's SO much easier to prevent a pregnancy and never have to be faced with either bringing an unplanned baby into the world or terminating a pregnancy.

MastaChronic
12-30-2006, 02:47 AM
I simply wish that people wouldn't exercise that right with the frequency that they do. Above all, I wish they'd practice safe sex so they wouldn't ever find themselves in such a situation. It's SO much easier to prevent a pregnancy and never have to be faced with either bringing an unplanned baby into the world or terminating a pregnancy.

i agree with you on this

harris7
12-30-2006, 03:03 AM
Howdy chronic,

Take a look,at the pic of a baby,at 20 weeks..and tell us again,that it's just a "tumor" :mad:
Then take a look,at the pic of what you want Lil Josh to do to his son or daughter. :mad:
I hope and pray..that Josh and his girlfriend,won't choose to murder their un-born son or daughter. :)



Thanks for the pro-choice propaganda

al bo0 bo0
12-30-2006, 04:21 AM
imo abortion.But you 2 have to decide it for YOU.you cant let other ppl throw their beliefs and thinkings on u and jus sort through the bullshit to get the answer,you made a mans mistake,so dnt put on your lil boy shorts now,put them big boy pants on and find the rite solution for YOU.So i think u should jus sit dwn wit ur girl and talk.talk as long as u need til u both come upon an agreement on wat is the rite thing to do,bc its HER body and YOUR potential baby were talkin about,and u two are the only ppl it REALLY affects.
i hope wateva u choose works out for you,im out.

TheKidThatLovesMary
12-30-2006, 06:16 AM
I didn't read the whole thred but from what i did read in it i would say try n think of the baby if u raise him/her think about how he/she might get looked at how they'd feel or what might happen is he/she got adopted honestly if i was about to have a kid i would be more worried about what there ganna have to go threw then i do cus think about it those desicions can last years and years for the kid and for you maybe acouple months or years i dunno im the same age 15. I really don't know what i would do if i was about to have a kid goodluck on w.e. u do man ur in a tuff spot.

spiked666killer
12-30-2006, 07:48 AM
So thread leader, Your telling us you don't want to have the kid grow up knowing / thinking it's parents didn't love it. But instead take it's life. How would you feel if some one picked your fate before you had a choice. This is a big choice you have to make, That factors out so much in the end. All I'm really trying to get at. Is that it is another human life.

I got a question for you...
Do you not have morals?

Mosiah
12-30-2006, 08:16 AM
I can't tell you to "be a man and raise it" coz I've never been there.. Personaly, I'd urge her to get an abortion, and if not, to put the child up for adoption. That may seem rather irresponsible and selfish, but lets say you did raise the child - teenagers really aren't ready for parenting, its impact halting educational and emotional growth for the teenager, and most likely an awkward childhood for the baby.

lil josh
12-30-2006, 02:41 PM
I got a question for you...
Do you not have morals?

shut the fuck up! i dont need pricks like you saying shit like this to me atm... sorry dude its nothing personal its just hard enough as it is atm.

ok we went to a meeting this morning to discuss what to do and this is what we have covered.

neither of us think it would be fair to try and raise the baby as theres no way we could support it finacially.

i know allot of you think adoption would be the way to go but personally neither of us are verry fond of this idea simply because of how the baby will feel growing up not knowing its real parents, we also dont want to know our baby is out there and we have turned our backs on it.

as for abortion...were not to sure on this yet.

im going to her house now to discuss our options a bit more.

thanks for your support people.

b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
12-30-2006, 02:45 PM
shut the fuck up! i dont need pricks like you saying shit like this to me atm... sorry dude its nothing personal its just hard enough as it is atm.

ok we went to a meeting this morning to discuss what to do and this is what we have covered.

neither of us think it would be fair to try and raise the baby as theres no way we could support it finacially.

i know allot of you think adoption would be the way to go but personally neither of us are verry fond of this idea simply because of how the baby will feel growing up not knowing its real parents, we also dont want to know our baby is out there and we have turned our backs on it.

as for abortion...were not to sure on this yet.

im going to her house now to discuss our options a bit more.

thanks for your support people.

well.. the baby growing up wouldnt HAVE to know its adopted. but then again he/she would just be living one big lie then.. also once the babys grown up and you're older (alot older lol) maybe he/she can come find you and they're mother..

But next time.. dont be dumb and forget you took the condom off..

spliffstar22
12-30-2006, 03:44 PM
Did you use a rubber everytime your fucked? If not, your a fuckin idiot lol

But talk to her and weigh your options, what will be best for her, for you, and most importantly, the baby..........

lil josh
12-30-2006, 04:01 PM
kk well i have just got back from her house and im pretty down atm :(

she miscarried this morning :(

i see it as a sign from god that its life was not meant to be.

once again ty for all your support.

and just incase your wondering i havn't left her on her own she is with her mum and there having a girly day, they assured me it was ok for me to go.

Cant stress enough how amazingly helpfull you'v all been, thanks.

in bold because i know this thread is probably going to carry on and many will probably miss this message.

birdgirl73
12-30-2006, 04:11 PM
Thanks for letting us know, Josh. I hope she's physically OK and that you're both emotionally OK, too. BFA was certainly right on about her prediction. I think you're precisely right that it's a sign it wasn't mean to be.

OK, let's cover this so we never have to go through this again with you or, with luck, anyone else. What's the most important thing to do before ever having sex again? Yep, some kind of reliable birth control. Preferably two types so you'll have a backup.

Best of luck to you, Josh!

lil josh
12-30-2006, 05:11 PM
ty birdgirl you have been verry helpful.

now im going to sit with a nice joint play my xbox 360 n relax, have been pretty stressed these past few days.

shes going on the birth control pill from now so things should be ok

ty ppl :)

TheKidThatLovesMary
12-30-2006, 09:43 PM
damn thats too bad but in a way its kind of good for you id say just be more careful next time. :)

baisez le monde.
12-30-2006, 09:58 PM
Lil Josh, please don't have sex again until you're ready to accept the responsiblity of a child. This whole situation was a sign from the universe telling you to keep your dick in your pants.

graph
12-30-2006, 10:23 PM
Lil Josh, please don't have sex again until you're ready to accept the responsiblity of a child. This whole situation was a sign from the universe telling you to keep your dick in your pants.

Everyone who has sex accepts the responsibility of a child? Is it warm in your fantasy world, or should I bring a jacket?

baisez le monde.
12-30-2006, 10:35 PM
Everyone who has sex accepts the responsibility of a child? Is it warm in your fantasy world, or should I bring a jacket?

May I reword my original statement?

I meant something more along the lines of "Everyone who has sex SHOULD be monetarily and emotionally CAPABLE of taking care of a child."

Should, not is. Big difference. It's way too much to ask for... but hey, it's my opinion. If I could, I would pass a law that anyone underage who has a baby, the boy gets castrated and the girl gets her uterus removed.




Just kidding.
Or am I?.... muahahahaa :bong:

gunge9
12-30-2006, 10:51 PM
Just take it like a man and raise the child.

Its a Plant
12-30-2006, 10:52 PM
May I reword my original statement?

I meant something more along the lines of "Everyone who has sex SHOULD be monetarily and emotionally CAPABLE of taking care of a child."

Should, not is. Big difference. It's way too much to ask for... but hey, it's my opinion. If I could, I would pass a law that anyone underage who has a baby, the boy gets castrated and the girl gets her uterus removed.




Just kidding.
Or am I?.... muahahahaa :bong:
Hehe, you're not kidding ;)

lil josh
12-30-2006, 10:54 PM
lol na i am not waiting unttil i am ready to raise a child b4 i have sex again lol.

sorry, sex drive to high.

lol so your saying all 16 year olds that have sex should be ready for a child?

Its a Plant
12-30-2006, 10:56 PM
In a perfect world, yes.

It's called responsibility. ~

fasts102376
12-30-2006, 11:41 PM
good luck bro.. live and learn.. i had 4 kids b4 i was 28 it's so hard.. i don't

want to stear u wrong,but i wouldnt change nothing.

420purplehaze420
12-31-2006, 03:49 AM
I hate to be the one to say this but there's a good she'll miscarry being that young, her body is hardly deleloped enough to properly create a baby.

Thats what I was going to say, Im a senior in highschool and i cannot imagine one of the niner girls having a baby, they weigh about 7 pounds 8 ounces themselves, def not developed enough to support another life.

napolitana869
12-31-2006, 04:45 AM
although the outcome was a sad one, it seems like things worked out for the best for the two of you. just remember to use condoms even if she is taking the pill. she only has to forget once for this to happen again, and next time things might not work out in your favor

Way2many
12-31-2006, 04:47 AM
well yer im 15 and my gf is pregnant.


im nt 2 sure how it happend probz a broken condom or sumfink but basically yer im 15 n ma 14 yr old gf is having a baby what shud i do?

plz can this remain in this section, no mention of it outside this section as i dnt want ppl that dnt post hear nt to know bout ma personal life, ty.

Damn should have worn a condom, man up on your responbilities now.

Not Enough Herb
12-31-2006, 06:47 AM
your lucky man

be smart next time

im your age too man, i know that a kid is the last thing i would want

dutch.lover
12-31-2006, 07:46 AM
If she is going to go on the pill, try NuvaRing instead. I have been on birthcontrol (bc) for 2 years now, and NuvaRing is the third one I have tried. It is a low dose bc, so it won't cause any extreme hormonaly changes in her, but it is more effective than any other type of hormonal bc. This is because you insert the ring, leave it in for three weeks, than take it out for a week- there is no failure rate due to improper taking of the pill. If she doesn't take the bc pill at the same time every day, it's failure rate increases. The ring is a lot more reliable in that respect. You can check out their website- there is also a cool program she could download on her computer that pops up a reminder of when she has to insert a new ring, and take out the old one. Very handy! I would definitely consider this method- it is my favorite so far, and it is nice knowing how reliable it is. Using condoms at the same time would also be a good idea, as hormonal bc methods are never 100% efficient.

I hope your gf is doing ok after the miscarriage though, I know that can be very hard for a lot of women.

WeedyBoyWonder
12-31-2006, 12:18 PM
ABORT IT. Seriously, dont screw yours and her life up with a kid. If she has it, wether you keep it or give it up for adoption she will be left with streach marks, and at that size because shes young they will look really bad. Just abort it asap, its best for everyone.
Plus personaly i wouldnt like to put a child of mine up for adoption, id hate to think there was a kid of mine in this world and i didnt know anything about it.

Torog
12-31-2006, 01:24 PM
ok this is how it happend. we was having sex both slightly drunk i took the condom of so she could give me head then she climbed on top of me and started riding me both of us 4getting about the condom, anyways i bust a nut in her as i went to take the condom of i realised it was not there.

hope this answers your questions and im sorry if it was a bit graphic.

birdgirl i know you quoted me on 'i-could-not-bear...' but you didnt include the rest of that sentance 'the-baby-thinking-its-parents-didnt-love-it'.

honestly i think we only have 2 options and thats 1.abortion 2.keeping it

Howdy lil josh,

The way I see it,for being irresponsible,there's a price to be paid..but it shouldn't be yer unborn child,who pays for the sins of it's parents..it should be you two,who pay the price-instead.

If y'all think that yer adult enuff to engage in risky and irresponsible sex,then y'all are old enuff to put away yer childish things and dedicate yer lives to yer child.

Whatever decision that y'all finally make,it will affect y'all for the rest of yer lives,so choose wisely..be mindful also,that yer gal could die from complications from an abortion procedure(infanticide,in my opinion).

I'm praying that you will come to yer senses and not murder yer child..be accountable for yer bad choices and grow up and be a man.

If I could,I'd adopt yer child and raise it with the love that it deserves..there are many ,who can do such..if nothing else,give them a chance to do so. As for yer gal carrying the child to birth,it's the least that she can do--for her bad choice. In the old days,the girl's father,would have forced you to be responsible for yer bad choice..they called em shotgun weddings..you either got married and put away yer childish things,or ya got yer ass whupped.

Have a good one ...

Torog
12-31-2006, 01:36 PM
kk well i have just got back from her house and im pretty down atm :(

she miscarried this morning :(

i see it as a sign from god that its life was not meant to be.

once again ty for all your support.

and just incase your wondering i havn't left her on her own she is with her mum and there having a girly day, they assured me it was ok for me to go.

Cant stress enough how amazingly helpfull you'v all been, thanks.

in bold because i know this thread is probably going to carry on and many will probably miss this message.

Howdy lil josh,

I replied to you,before I saw this..apparently God looked into yer hearts and realized that y'all are un-fit to be parents and be trusted with the miracle of a child.

Yer gal,should have some counseling..and you should git some kind of come-uppins for being so irresponsible. :mad: Both of y'all,should be grounded and kept away from each other,unless it's under supervision,maybe you should git a vasectomy..if you have so little respect for Life. If I were yer gal's dad,I'd be raising all sorts of heck and I'd try to git criminal charges against ya,like statutory rape.

Have a good one ...

MastaChronic
12-31-2006, 01:43 PM
torog
do you know where i might find a video of an abortion taking place?
i would love to watch that happen, seems entertaining.

Torog
12-31-2006, 02:53 PM
If she is going to go on the pill, try NuvaRing instead. I have been on birthcontrol (bc) for 2 years now, and NuvaRing is the third one I have tried. It is a low dose bc, so it won't cause any extreme hormonaly changes in her, but it is more effective than any other type of hormonal bc. This is because you insert the ring, leave it in for three weeks, than take it out for a week- there is no failure rate due to improper taking of the pill. If she doesn't take the bc pill at the same time every day, it's failure rate increases. The ring is a lot more reliable in that respect. You can check out their website- there is also a cool program she could download on her computer that pops up a reminder of when she has to insert a new ring, and take out the old one. Very handy! I would definitely consider this method- it is my favorite so far, and it is nice knowing how reliable it is. Using condoms at the same time would also be a good idea, as hormonal bc methods are never 100% efficient.

I hope your gf is doing ok after the miscarriage though, I know that can be very hard for a lot of women.

Howdy dutch.lover,

Yer advice,would be appropriate,if directed at adults..but not so..when we're talking about children having children. Neither of them,has a right to engage in sexual activity of any sort,between each other,as they are both minors.

At least you acknowledge,that there are consequences,that could be heavy.

Have a good one ...

Arklenao2
01-01-2007, 04:29 AM
tell her you know shes sleeping around

Torog
01-01-2007, 02:22 PM
Howdy lil josh,

I replied to you,before I saw this..apparently God looked into yer hearts and realized that y'all are un-fit to be parents and be trusted with the miracle of a child.

Yer gal,should have some counseling..and you should git some kind of come-uppins for being so irresponsible. :mad: Both of y'all,should be grounded and kept away from each other,unless it's under supervision,maybe you should git a vasectomy..if you have so little respect for Life. If I were yer gal's dad,I'd be raising all sorts of heck and I'd try to git criminal charges against ya,like statutory rape.

Have a good one ...

Howdy lil josh,

I quoted myself,because it was wrong of me to say that God looked into yer hearts and realized that y'all were un-fit to be parents..I apologize for that..I have no idea what God's Will,is for y'all..and I should never presume such. Shame on me ! :o

I hope that someday,that you will grow up to be a good father. :)

Have a good one ...

Eazy
01-02-2007, 03:30 AM
ignore below i missed a bit sorry about that man (man hug) keep ya head up

ah im high as fuk man and i didnt know u where so young, well birdgirl gunan grill me what ever i say so Blah

i was 17 my gf 16 and she told me she was pregnate and wanted to keep it i basicaly explained a what i thought at the time

im a fucking kid i cant raise a kid no cash no house and i dnt wanna and as u kno i dnt do shit if i dnt wanna if u want the kid ur on ur own its harsh but u lied to me ( said was on pill and loada shit) she then said she get an abortion seh did that in 3 dasy flat so i dnt think she was pregnate, just wanted to see my reaction well thats my experience since then ive heard it alot its often bull but for ur adivce


deny its yours and go sky diving in china
tell her you cant raise it
raise it on welfare and watch it eat ur cash as u leave school early to pay for it
ask her what she expect you to do ( godo idea then explain the fact your both fucked if you keep it)

Eazy
01-02-2007, 03:32 AM
oh n masta cronic wtf man u wanan see that kinda shit lol jokes

bavet
01-02-2007, 05:28 AM
Hope you two damn kids grow a brain and learn to use it from now on!

AdventuresOfSid
01-02-2007, 05:57 AM
Looks like you grew up early. You have to make a decision here. I hate to mention this, but seriously, make sure it is yours to begin with. Other than that, whatever decision you make regarding this, it will effect you for the rest of your life. Choose wisely.

partyguy420
01-02-2007, 08:47 AM
adoption... but try and stay in his life... and let him know that his real dad...

Radiohead89
01-02-2007, 08:59 AM
I still say you should just eat the baby

stinkyattic
01-02-2007, 03:31 PM
well i have just got back from her house and im pretty down atm :(
....
she miscarried this morning
....
i see it as a sign from god that its life was not meant to be.
.....
Cant stress enough how amazingly helpfull you'v all been, thanks.

Well honestly that is the best thing that could have happened. It's not so much a sign from God as it is from her own young body that she is not physically ready to have a baby. So for all the people urging you two to carry the fetus to term and put it up for adoption, well, ultimately her own body chose otherwise.

And it takes the stress off her not to have had to made that hard decision either way.

My brother went through the same thing years ago and his girlfriend also miscarried within the first 6 weeks of the pregnancy... he still thinks about it a lot, 10 years later, about what could have been but both of them know that the miscarriage was really in some ways an easy way out that lets them both sleep better at night.

I'm sorry to hear what happened even though it is for the best. I'm glad that you are still there to support her. And most of all I'm glad that she is safe and now you will both look at life with just slightly older eyes.

Stinky