THE BOOM OUTSIDE BAGHDAD

[Psycho4Bud]

December 26, 2006 -- UMQASR, IRAQ

WHILE the American political elite is using Iraq as an ex cuse for fighting internal political wars, a different reality is taking shape in parts of this war-torn nation. Wherever some measure of security is assured - that is to say in more than 80 percent of Iraq - towns and villages long left to die a slow death are creeping back to life.

Nowhere is this slow but steady return to life more startling than in Um Qasr, in the southeast extremity of Iraq on the Persian Gulf. Four years ago, this was a jumble of rusting quays, abandoned houses and gutted buildings. By the spring of 2003, its population had dwindled to a few dozen, along with hundreds of stray dogs. There was even talk of abandoning it altogether.

Today, however, Um Qasr is back in business as a port with commercial and military functions. Hundreds of families that had left after the first Gulf War in 1991 have returned - joining many more who have come from all over Iraq.

The boom in Um Qasr is part of a broader picture that also includes Basra (the sprawling metropolis of southern Iraq), the Shi'ite "holy" cities of Najaf and Karbala, Mandali on the Iranian border and much of Baghdad.

When the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank reported two years ago that the Iraqi economy was heading for a boom, skeptics dismissed it as misplaced optimism. Now, however, even some of those who opposed the toppling of Saddam Hussein admit that many Iraqis share that optimism.

Newsweek has just hailed the emergence of a booming market economy in Iraq as "the mother of all surprises," noting that "Iraqis are more optimistic about the future than most Americans are." The reason, of course, is that Iraqis know what is going on in their country while Americans are fed a diet of exclusively negative reporting from Iraq.

The growing dynamism of the Iraqi economy is reflected in the steady increase in the value of the national currency, the dinar, against the three currencies in direct competition with it in the Iraqi marketplace: the Iranian rial, the Kuwaiti dinar and the U.S. dollar, since January 2006.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12262006/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_boom_outside_baghdad_opedcolumnists_amir_taher i.htm

HMMMMMMM..........The exchange rate of the dinar has also went from 1460:1 to 1325:1 just as of recent. :D Seems to me that a couple of dumbasses with car bombs doesn't make a civil war.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[BlueCat]

Ok Psycho I went along with the article. I even found it interesting until you made this remark.

Seems to me that a couple of dumbasses with car bombs doesn't make a civil war.

How could you say something so stupid? A couple of car bombs does not shoot the arms off of our soldiers. In the last 2 weeks our soldiers have suffered more injuries than in all of the war! The ICUs are all full and they have had to turn another wing of the hospital into an ICU. The head wounds have tripled and amputations have become routine. Of course Um Qasr is quiet it is the Naval strong hold! The damn generals live there!

The boots on the ground are in a civil war!!

I read yours now you read mine, please because you do not know what you are talking about and you are not helping our guys.

http://hiddenmysteries.net/geeklog/article.php?story=20061129002325590

[Dutch Pimp]

...soldiers at Fort Campbell KY...returned Thanksgiving..from their 2nd or 3rd tour in Iraq..

..5 have died very unnatural deaths since returning..(since Thanksgiving)....various forms of suicide...

..these deaths won't go on the offical war casuality lists...

[BlueCat]

Yeah my son treated 2 of them. The gun shot wounds to the head...

There were 3 more over Christmas and several others were questionable

There are literally thousands not going on the casuality list because they put them on life support machines and ship them to Germany. They say it is so the parents can say goodbye. It is really because they will go on a different unofficial list. Sound familiar?

[BlueCat]

Oh sorry Dutch you are talking about the guys state side ....I read it wrong
I have read about the kid that hung himself when he got back....there are a lot of suicides going on down range right now so thats what I thought you were talkking about. There were several last month too. It is all really sad :(

They are seeing more that a couple of car bombs over there! :rolleyes:

[BlueCat]

BTW Psycho where were you when this kind of crap was being posted here?

I expected you to chime in with a little support at least say something as you had or have a kid over there too.

From Swirlymass:

soldiers are just the pawns for corrupt idiots like rumsfeld.

so i don't like soldiers because of their "lets grab a gun and kill somebody" attitude. I've seen it over and over again in my former friends and people my age. people who enlist are
usually pretty brainless, the ones that are normal get put into intelligence positions. if you can be bossed around 24/7 and are just aching to give up all free will you ever had then go run and join the marines. they even give you dumb brutes a gun WOOOHEEE

its like children at school, one kid beats up another kid because some girl told the bully that the kid was doing something she knows the bully will dislike.

[Psycho4Bud]

Ok Psycho I went along with the article. I even found it interesting until you made this remark.

Seems to me that a couple of dumbasses with car bombs doesn't make a civil war.

How could you say something so stupid? A couple of car bombs does not shoot the arms off of our soldiers. In the last 2 weeks our soldiers have suffered more injuries than in all of the war!

Do you have ANY link to support this claim?? Doubt it!

The boots on the ground are in a civil war!!

I read yours now you read mine, please because you do not know what you are talking about and you are not helping our guys.

http://hiddenmysteries.net/geeklog/article.php?story=20061129002325590

You read my five paragraphs now I'm compelled to read a short story? I'll wait for the movie if ya don't mind.....made it though a few paragraphs but hell, I got things to do.

By "helping" do you mean support.....which I do.....or do you mean help your own agenda? If they need something, they should have it.....but as for the "boots on the ground", I'm sure from all the interviews that I've seen, articles read, they DO NOT want to "cut and run" from the folk that took out their friends over there.

What do ya think would happen to Iraq if we left in a trail of daffodils like some of the tree huggers would like to see? First off it would be a shooting gallery on us as we left. Second, we would lose COMPLETE respect from that entire region not to mention various other places in the world. You all were so, so worried about the opinions on France, Germany, Russia, and China during the last presidential elections and during the invasion.......what would be their opinion of us if we did cut? "Hey, the U.S. is full of tree huggin' pussies".........Now THAT'S a nice opinion?

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

By the way, my son joined FREELY.......NO DRAFT....he signed his name on the line and I SUPPORTED that decision. I don't care if he would have been in Iraq, Afghanistan, wherever.......I would have gave him SUPPORT and let him know that I felt that his station was a worthwhile cause. THAT is how we are suppose to help our troops from state side.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[eg420ne]

ITS NOT A CIVIL WAR UNTIL THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION SAYS SO, , DONT MIND THE 100S OF DEAD IRAQIS A WEEK, CLOSE YOUR EYES AND GO SHOPPING...MY BAD ONLY 50 DIED THIS WEEK..

At least 54 dead in Baghdad bombing
Wednesday, December 27, 2006
LAUREN FRAYER
The Associated Press
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A string of car bombs and other blasts killed at least 54 Iraqis on Tuesday, including 17 outside Baghdad's most venerated Sunni mosque, while U.S. troops battled Shiite militiamen in Baghdad.

Seven more American soldiers died, the U.S. military said, pushing the December death toll to 90 in one of the bloodiest months for the American troops in Iraq this year. Some 105 troops were killed in October.

President Bush is weighing whether to send thousands more troops to Iraq, but a senior Democratic senator, Joseph Biden, said Tuesday he would fight such a move.
http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/wire.ssf?/base/news/1167215488194340.xml&coll=2


23 Iraqis, Four U.S. Service Members Killed; Kidnapped Americans Believed
BAGHDAD â?? At least 23 Iraqis were killed in attacks on Thursday, and the U.S. military announced the deaths of three American soldiers and one Marine.

In addition, The U.S. Embassy said Thursday it believes four American security contractors and an Austrian remain in captivity after a video surfaced this week. They were kidnapped in southern Iraq six weeks ago.

Two bombs exploded shortly after 10 a.m. opposite a park in the South Gate area, killing nine civilians and wounding 43, a police officer said on condition of anonymity because of security concerns. South Gate is often crowded with commuters and shoppers.

A bomb planted under a car killed 12 civilians and wounded 26 others near al-Sha'ab stadium in eastern Baghdad, police said. The bomb exploded among a group of people lining up to buy kerosene.

Another blast targeted a police patrol in western Baghdad but missed, killing two civilians instead, police said. Four others were wounded and taken to Yarmouk
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,239463,00.html

War's toll: 12,000 dead Iraqi policemen
By Lauren Frayer, Associated Press
Article Launched: 12/24/2006 03:33:36 PM PST


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Some 12,000 Iraqi policemen have been killed since the ouster of Saddam Hussein, the country's interior minister said Sunday, as clashes, a suicide bomber and weekend explosions killed more than a dozen Iraqi officers and four American soldiers.

At a news conference in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone, Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani said despite the thousands of police deaths "when we call for new recruits, they come by the hundreds and by the thousands."

Among the deaths Sunday were seven police officers killed when a suicide bomber hit a police station in Muqdadiyah, northeast of the capital. The bombing was followed by six mortar rounds. In Mosul, a drive-by shooting killed two policemen.

Though police have been targeted by insurgent attacks, they have also been blamed for violence. Gunmen in Iraqi army and police uniforms have been responsible for recent bank robberies in Baghdad and the kidnapping of more than 40 workers and volunteers at the Iraqi Red Crescent.

Al-Bolani vowed to rid his ministry of rogue officers.

"We formed committees to clean and purge ... to dismiss the bad elements from the ministry and build our institutions," al-Bolani said. http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_4896744

[BlueCat]

So you refuse to read an article because it is too long. I see your intellect appears to match that of your president! It would seem to me IF a person has a loved one involved in this war NOTHING would be too long. I would think you would be reading anything and everything about this war. That article covered the war from its beginning. If you lack reading skills or refuse to devote the time then skip to the the closing paragraph.

Is it you very own ego that refuses to let you see the truth about this war? I honestly can't see how you can STILL say there is no civil war when our very own generals have stated that Iraq is slipping into civil war and that was back in JUNE!

What agenda is it that I am trying to promote here Psycho? A treehugging agenda? How lame is that? Could it be I am promoting the SAME agenda that swept through both the house and senate a few weeks ago?

I guess you will continue to support your president's agenda no matter how many US soldiers die including your own child. I will NEVER understand this type of blind reasoning. How disappointing.

As I have stated before the term "he volunteered" no longer works unless of course you have an alternative to volunteering and you want everyone to be drafted. So by saying your son "volunteered" it is as if you are saying he made his bed and now he can lie in it. That is pretty sad IMO :(

[Psycho4Bud]

My son, like yours, signed the dotted line stating that he would go anywhere, and kill anyone in his way in the acts of WAR. WE went to war with Iraq and the people that are there deserve and also need our support.

When ya join is there a "I won't fight there clause"? LOL...wouldn't have WW2 been a hoot if that were the case.
Here is the United States Army oath . . .

I (insert name), having been appointed a (insert rank) in the U.S. Army under the conditions indicated in this document, do accept such appointment and do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter, so help me God.

Since the President is the Commander and Chief of the military guess who gives the orders and who takes them.

"Could it be I am promoting the SAME agenda that swept through both the house and senate a few weeks ago?"
Fact is, MOST of all the Dems brought in are NOT looking for the 6 month pull out but are looking for the ultimate goal of a stable Iraq.........I don't see this in the "tree hugger" agenda. Pelosi wanted Murtha.......the pull out now man and got out voted for Hoyer. What does that say about the "agenda that swept through both the house and senate"?

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[BlueCat]

Your son did not sign up to KILL anyone. Protecting and killing are two different things. You are starting to sound like the description twirly posted of our military and that is really disgusting. You give our boys a very bad reputation. You posted exactly what they signed up to do Preserve Honor and protect OUR constitution NOT the Iraqi constitution. It is not the job of the US to NATION build.<---- those are Bush's own words.
The Iraqi do not want us there as they have stated this many times. There was no enemy there until Bush provoked every country in the middle east into this war.

Where exactly IS your son stationed Psycho? I am curious... I am not hearing the concern I hear from most parents with childern there.

So answer me this... you seem to believe that the President as the commander in chief he must be obeyed at ALL COST. Tell me this, IF someone was to go behind the back of the President lets say a general or some other high level cabinet official and make a deal with a country that the United states has cut off relations with... Lets say Cuba or maybe Iran. Would you see this as an act of treason?
You seem to put so much importance into the power of the Commander in Chief and am curious as to what you think should happen to someone dealing behind the presidents back.

[medicinal]

Newsweek has just hailed the emergence of a booming market economy in Iraq as "the mother of all surprises," noting that "Iraqis are more optimistic about the future than most Americans are." The reason, of course, is that Iraqis know what is going on in their country while Americans are fed a diet of exclusively negative reporting from Iraq.

Here's an Idea, Why don't you move to Bagdad and open a hot dog stand?

[BlueCat]

HAHAHAHA My laugh for the day, Thanks medicinal :D

[Psycho4Bud]

Newsweek has just hailed the emergence of a booming market economy in Iraq as "the mother of all surprises," noting that "Iraqis are more optimistic about the future than most Americans are." The reason, of course, is that Iraqis know what is going on in their country while Americans are fed a diet of exclusively negative reporting from Iraq.

Here's an Idea, Why don't you move to Bagdad and open a hot dog stand?

Funny you should bring up the food industry.......BOOMING in the Kurdish region. They are in big need of processing and packaging investors. Think a bit higher in the future.......stands are for kids.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

Your son did not sign up to KILL anyone. Protecting and killing are two different things. You are starting to sound like the description twirly posted of our military and that is really disgusting. You give our boys a very bad reputation.

"To conquer, we must destroy our enemies. We must not only die gallantly; we must kill devastatingly. The faster and more effectively you kill, the longer you will live to enjoy the priceless fame of conquerors." -- George S. Patton

Do ya think that they train soldiers to fire weapons, launch missiles in order to shoot candy at the enemy? Soldiers are trained to be killing machines.....always have and always will.

I give our boys a bad rep........supporting their actions in times of war isn't a bad thing.....complaining about what they have to do during that time is a lack of total respect for those serving.

The Iraqi do not want us there as they have stated this many times.

GIVE THE LINK because I can provide MANY from the Prime Minister and President of Iraq requesting that we don't do a left wing cut and run.

Where exactly IS your son stationed Psycho? I am curious... I am not hearing the concern I hear from most parents with childern there.

My son has been out for about a year now........all is well and if he had to go back in....wherever, I would show COMPLETE support.

I completey expected this type of crap when I posted this because the left wing daisy pushers can't handle the fact that some things are going WELL over there. Tell ya what, join up with the Hee-Haw band and you too can play Gloom, Despair, Agony (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZllXMXvBJE).

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

Well you managed to push this thread into your little anti-war Cindy Sheehan agenda.....may as well keep it comin'

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[BlueCat]

That's ok it would be a waste of time.

[BlueCat]

I guess you are not going to answer my question about going behind the Presidents back. Afraid of where it's going? I think you know. One day you will have to admit this war was wrong and the Bushes are BAD.

I can't wait to watch Psycho Jed eat his hat. :)

[Hamlet]

The reason, of course, is that Iraqis know what is going on in their country while Americans are fed a diet of exclusively negative reporting from Iraq.

Ah, trickle-down economics.....yes, many financial oportunities in war profiteering. Hadji's family was blown to pieces but he can one day own a hummer if he works hard. Business is good and that's really what counts.

[Psycho4Bud]

Ah, trickle-down economics.....yes, many financial oportunities in war profiteering. Hadji's family was blown to pieces but he can one day own a hummer if he works hard. Business is good and that's really what counts.

I kind of thought that you would be one to realize that developement of an infrustructure is vital in the success of ANY country. Jobs provide opportunities and that isn't what insurgents and terrorists want for Iraq....a glimmer of hope.

How many lives were lost with our civil war, WW2? What was one of the main objectives in developing the peace? Rebuild the countries infrustructure!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

I can't wait to watch Psycho Jed eat his hat. :)

Cats eat birds so I guess watching a BlueCat eat crow won't be anything new. :D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[xblackdogx]

Ah, trickle-down economics.....yes, many financial oportunities in war profiteering. Hadji's family was blown to pieces but he can one day own a hummer if he works hard. Business is good and that's really what counts.

i laughed at this statement ^^

so i really hope P4B, when you said this:


I kind of thought that you would be one to realize that developement of an infrustructure is vital in the success of ANY country. Jobs provide opportunities and that isn't what insurgents and terrorists want for Iraq....a glimmer of hope.

How many lives were lost with our civil war, WW2? What was one of the main objectives in developing the peace? Rebuild the countries infrustructure!

Have a good one!

you misunderstood Hamlet....

Yo Ham
you were trying to bring up the point that economy isn't everything in a WAR ravaged country, eh?

and P4B, watch some interviews with Iraqis in Baghdad and the villages, if you can find (try freespeech tv-direct tv; or inn news report), journalists in iraq say in villages, militia run housing on any given street. In EVERY city, block by block it is controlled by either Sunni or Shia. In the beggining (and still occuring today): The Shia and Sunni each obtain new areas from enemys or new growth (militia going to a part of the city unocuppied by no1 but residents), and if they find a person living in a home on the newly obtained block that is a Sect different then theirs, they kill them. THEIR houses (those killed) are then used to for either 1) Militia housing or 2) Housing for a family of their Sect. ANY other houses on newly obtained blocks which belong to a family of the SAME sect is allowed to stay and lives under the militia's rule (usually qur'anic rule, understandably). So the DESTINY of the AVERAGE CITIZENS in iraq depends solely on which militia obtains their BLOCK. So let's say theres a 50/50 chance you could get killed by a militia that is different from your sect, ADD in the percent that you could get killed by a US Soldier-who constantly raid neighborhoods, and in fire w/ BOTH militias-and I'd say an AVERAGE CITIZEN has about an 80% chance of being killed during this war. With everyday life like this: not being able to go to the market (what fucking market), flip of a coin chances getting killed by a citizen of my own country (militia), 30% chance of getting killed by a foreigner (US Soldier), A PROCESSING PLANT doesn't mean jack shit in respect to it being or not being a CIVIL WAR.
I can tell you what this war is about:
ETNIC CLEANSING
divide and conquer, it has always been the STRATEGY: the US soldiers will continue to stay in Iraq until enough deaths happen, and of course to hoard the precious oil while we're at it. Killing people and taking natural resources is a fundamental principle in our history and will be in our future.

long time no see P4B, glad to see you found a kitten to play with while i was gone!

[Hamlet]

How many lives were lost with our civil war, WW2? What was one of the main objectives in developing the peace? Rebuild the countries infrustructure!

Iraq has massive amounts of the World's oil supply. An infrustructure will rebuild itself on its own overnight when and if the fighting stops. It's not like they're gonna have to worry about who's going to pick cotton. They crap money over there.

But now you've got several groups of religiously charged, pissed off hornets all trying to rebuild in the same nest. It's a natural order that's gotta work itself out on it's own and is trying to if we would get out of the way. But they're never going to settle down because, as long as that oil is there, someone is always going to be stirring them up with a stick. Lot's of someone's as a matter of fact, who's interests are best served if peace doesn't break out so that the U.S. can kick back and enjoy a monopoly on all that Iraqi oil.

When this is over, if it's ever over, Iraq is going to go right back to being Iraq, just like Viet Nam is still Viet Nam. We're not doing a damn thing for them, and we never intended to. We got greedy and now we're paying the price. Iraq is never going to turn into some fuckin'' Jordan. The only way to control it is to recruit another evil bastard strongman just like Saddam Hussain if we don't want it to be ran by some lunatic clerical order, and eventually all this shit will start right back over again.

Our best option is to pull Exxon's dick out of our butts, park the fuckin' Hummers, kick the farmers and Toyota in the ass, and start growing corn. (Oh yeah baby, gimme that good ol' American Gothic.)

*Whew*... if you'll excuse me I'm feeling a little insecure right now and have an overwhelming urge to go sit in some daffodils. I think I need to hug my persimmon tree...

[PigSnout]

so i don't like soldiers because of their "lets grab a gun and kill somebody" attitude. I've seen it over and over again in my former friends and people my age. people who enlist are
usually pretty brainless, the ones that are normal get put into intelligence positions. if you can be bossed around 24/7 and are just aching to give up all free will you ever had then go run and join the marines. they even give you dumb brutes a gun WOOOHEEE


Our brave women and men are fighting and dieing for their country. God Bless them all.
Anyone one who calls them brainless is a piece of shit.

[PigSnout]

Ah, trickle-down economics.....yes, many financial oportunities in war profiteering. Hadji's family was blown to pieces but he can one day own a hummer if he works hard. Business is good and that's really what counts.

Gotta get spinners on the hummer.

[BlueCat]

i laughed at this statement ^^

so i really hope P4B, when you said this:

you misunderstood Hamlet....

Yo Ham
you were trying to bring up the point that economy isn't everything in a WAR ravaged country, eh?

and P4B, watch some interviews with Iraqis in Baghdad and the villages, if you can find (try freespeech tv-direct tv; or inn news report), journalists in iraq say in villages, militia run housing on any given street. In EVERY city, block by block it is controlled by either Sunni or Shia. In the beggining (and still occuring today): The Shia and Sunni each obtain new areas from enemys or new growth (militia going to a part of the city unocuppied by no1 but residents), and if they find a person living in a home on the newly obtained block that is a Sect different then theirs, they kill them. THEIR houses (those killed) are then used to for either 1) Militia housing or 2) Housing for a family of their Sect. ANY other houses on newly obtained blocks which belong to a family of the SAME sect is allowed to stay and lives under the militia's rule (usually qur'anic rule, understandably). So the DESTINY of the AVERAGE CITIZENS in iraq depends solely on which militia obtains their BLOCK. So let's say theres a 50/50 chance you could get killed by a militia that is different from your sect, ADD in the percent that you could get killed by a US Soldier-who constantly raid neighborhoods, and in fire w/ BOTH militias-and I'd say an AVERAGE CITIZEN has about an 80% chance of being killed during this war. With everyday life like this: not being able to go to the market (what fucking market), flip of a coin chances getting killed by a citizen of my own country (militia), 30% chance of getting killed by a foreigner (US Soldier), A PROCESSING PLANT doesn't mean jack shit in respect to it being or not being a CIVIL WAR.
I can tell you what this war is about:
ETNIC CLEANSING
divide and conquer, it has always been the STRATEGY: the US soldiers will continue to stay in Iraq until enough deaths happen, and of course to hoard the precious oil while we're at it. Killing people and taking natural resources is a fundamental principle in our history and will be in our future.

long time no see P4B, glad to see you found a kitten to play with while i was gone!

WHO YOU CALLING A KITTEN!? :D I have locked horns with P4B many times before....I can hold my own just fine thank you. I just don't want to push his buttons too much he might blow a gasket. :D

Oh and Psycho....I believe it is Jed that eats crow and opossum and skunk.... :) I'd start tenderizing now if I were you!

[Psycho4Bud]

WHO YOU CALLING A KITTEN!? :D I have locked horns with P4B many times before....I can hold my own just fine thank you. I just don't want to push his buttons too much he might blow a gasket. :D

Hey, when Mods post in here it's their asses just like anyone elses....likewise, we can also do the same. I've personally tamed it down a bit just because....LOL, you don't know how many times I have to go back across some of my posts before I submit them.

Oh and Psycho....I believe it is Jed that eats crow and opossum and skunk.... :) I'd start tenderizing now if I were you!

Road Kill Stew........weeeeeeell doggies! Sounds good but I think this time I'll watch the "Kitten" eat the crow........LMAO! I was wondering how long you were going to leave that kitten comment for, you were slippin' a bit there WILDCAT!!:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[BlueCat]

Just thought I'd post this so I can really get under your skin.....

Your pinko commie wildcat got to meet Amy Goodman this summer and I actually got to do a sit down political discussion with another of my idols Sam Seder.

Next on my list Jimmy Carter, Noam Chomsky,Howard Zinn and Jon Stewart! Wish me luck :D

I am going to get you to come over to our side yet!
Just walk into the light Psycho it's painless and you will feel SO GOOD.... :D

[Psycho4Bud]

Just thought I'd post this so I can really get under your skin.....

Your pinko commie wildcat got to meet Amy Goodman this summer and I actually got to do a sit down political discussion with another of my idols Sam Seder.

Next on my list Jimmy Carter, Noam Chomsky,Howard Zinn and Jon Stewart! Wish me luck :D

I am going to get you to come over to our side yet!
Just walk into the light Psycho it's painless and you will feel SO GOOD.... :D

Lets ask Triumph what these celebs are good for.......hehehe

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

LOL....seems that Kuwait disagrees with ya too. And their right over there!!
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=97017

The light is waiting......:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[BlueCat]

Lets ask Triumph what these celebs are good for.......hehehe

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

WOW now really that's so immature....

[Psycho4Bud]

WOW now really that's so immature....

If that's what your into good for you.......as for me; celebs, politicians....not really interested in meeting most any of them.

Did find something just for you though!!
To BlueCat! (http://www.crowbusters.com/recipes.htm)

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[BlueCat]

HAHAHAHAHA glad you are looking up recipes since you'll be eating crow soon enough. :D

I love the cat photo thanks :)

[medicinal]

When you think War-USA, think profit! Thats the truth!