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canuck grower
12-27-2006, 06:48 PM
Hi guys & girls! First I want to thank everyone who posts questions, answers, and logs on this message board. You have been an excellent source of knowledge and experience for an amateur like myself. Okay now on to the growing... and please excuse me when I ramble like I tend to do.

My friend and I just started growing one day. We had talked about it a little bit and then one day he shows up and says "Let's go buy a light". So we go get a 250W HPS bulb & ballast, some soil and small pots in a tray from Home Depot and get started. Actually he had a plant that he started at home in his room, in a shot glass so while we germinated and waited for sprouts we already had something to watch, which was nice for impatient people like us. The seeds are just bag seed so we don't know what to expect, though my friend talked to who he got the bag from and it's a strain he's been growing for a while so we're hoping for some good smoke.

We decided to set this up in my closet, so we cleared it out, hung the light, and then germinated the seeds. I won't post all the early photos because well they're pretty boring. Right now we are on Day #13 of flowering so this log is going to move through the first month pretty quick (the first month isn't exciting anyway). For now I'll post a few pics showing our progress and then maybe go into some more detail about the set up and what he have done to the plants so far.

We didn't have a clue what we were doing at first and made some amateur mistakes. But this was ultimately supposed to be a learning experience and we have learned very much. It looks like we'll get to smoke some buds as well so that's a nice bonus!

Here is a list of mistakes we made that I can think of off the top of my head:


Planted seedlings too deep, and not necessarily with the root pointing downwards
HPS is not the best lighting for seedlings and veg (but it did work well enough)
Light was too far from seedlings
Over watered them the first 1-2 weeks (I watered them daily, oops!)
Ventilation is far from optimal, bordering on downright lousy


Luckily none of those were fatal mistakes, and despite our best efforts to hurt these things they have done nothing but flourish and prosper! What an amazing plant.

This is long enough for a first post, so here are a few pics to whet your appetite and I'll be back with more, probably later today after some lunch.

Thanks again to the people in this community. You're helpful and friendly and this grow would be pretty terrible without all the wisdom you've shared here.

canuck grower
12-27-2006, 07:58 PM
ok, I guess because I'm new I can't post any photos yet, but rest assured I will post them. for now here are a couple of photos on flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/

the first pic there has been my wallpaper for a while now. they are shown from newest to oldest, so you might want to start at the bottom and go up. i hope you enjoy those till I can figure out how to attach photos here.

canuck grower
12-28-2006, 02:34 AM
ok, i'm a little confused. does anyone know the rules about attaching files to posts? i can do it in some forums or threads, but not this one.

i'd like to post some pics here instead of flickr, but i might just keep them on flickr if i don't figure it out in a couple of days so i can keep the log going.

TheGreenFog
12-28-2006, 03:24 AM
Hey, Canuck!

Glad you got the log up. Too bad that you wont be posting the earlier pics. :( I like them, and they contribute to 'thoroughness'...but I know what you mean. Most of the people on here perk up only for nice flower shots. :p

Anyway, I'm also very happy that there is someone on here who takes as much pride in his grammar, spelling and punctuation as I do. ;) Honestly, I've slacked off here or there recently due to how frequently I post.

In any case, I will be following your log so keep it up! :thumbsup:

Regarding the file uploading...I dont know what problem you are having, but I know the files can't be larger than 1.9mb or so, but you will get an error message to that effect if that is your problem. The other problem you might be having is if you are using a proxy server or anonymous proxy. A lot of them give you problems with uploading files.

Hope that helps.

Looking forward to the pics. Hope you can get some up tonight. :smokin:


:rastasmoke:

The Fog (TGF)

canuck grower
12-28-2006, 04:34 AM
Hey TGF,

It is difficult to read some of posts here, but for the most part I only have to read things once or twice. Some of them are just terrible though and I give up. What can you do eh? We are a bunch of stoners after all. :rastasmoke:

I'll post some earlier pics for sure, not to worry! I should have said that the earlier PHOTOS weren't always exciting. It was really exciting to watch them grow from the beginning. Right now we are on Day #40/13 (13 of flower), so it was just under 4 weeks of veg and now it's been almost 2 weeks of flower and the number of pics we have reflects that. What I don't have are pics of is the setup itself. That's because the setup is pretty ghetto. The light is hanging on a coat hanger tied to shoelaces which are screwed into the supporting boards on the sides of the shelf at the top of the closet. It's a little more complicated than that (it can't fall, don't worry), you have to see a pic so I will take one tomorrow when the light's on and post it. I'm not joking... love, light, tap water, good soil, and some ferts from Home Depot will go a long way. We haven't measured temps, humidity, pH'd our water or any of those things you're supposed to do because we don't have the equipment or the money to buy it.


Ok the file uploading thing is just strange. Here are pics so I don't have to explain it.

When I reply to a thread in the intro forum I see this: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/335875495_7a074effef_o.png

When I reply to this thread I see this: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/335875496_d0e26c8c88_o.png

I don't have any clue why that happens. Strange eh?

We didn't start taking photos until we had some sprouts and the date on my camera was wrong, so we can't rightly say when any of these photos are from up until Dec 11. We started on Nov 17... but Betty, the biggest one, had that head start in a shot glass for a week so she took off under the HPS and mode the rest look small.

Anyway I have 191 photos here and I don't know how many I will upload tonight. Check my flickr page later if you want, I've already started uploading pics. I'm tagging them sort of like I have them in iPhoto. Veg, everything (all the plants, or as many as fit in one photo), flower, and I'm tagging the month nov or dec as well. In iPhoto I tag them as Birds eye, side shot, and close up as well but I don't know if I'll get that much into the flickr photos or not.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/

Till I figure out how to attach file in this thread I'll link to flickr images once they're uploaded. Anyhow that's it for tonight. I'll post more tomorrow.

Did I mention I tend to ramble? :weedpoke:

edit: here's that wallpaper-worthy photo I mentioned before... it's not the first one anymore! http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/335430150/

canuck grower
12-28-2006, 06:03 AM
i've hit flickr's upload limit of 100MB a month, so the rest of the pics will have to wait until next year! ha ha. :jointsmile: :yippee:

they're tagged well enough that you can see what's what. next month i'll be more careful about what I do and don't upload so I can catch up... and hopefully i'll figure out this board soon so I can just post the photos here.

betty's definitely a girl though. these are a few days old, and my camera sucks, but she's got pistils at the top 4-5 nodes now.

flickr's down for maintenance so I can't get a link, but i think this will work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/tags/pistils ... that is, it'll work when flickr's back up.

canuck grower
12-28-2006, 07:23 AM
last post today... this was just too cool to wait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/archives/date-taken/2006/12/calendar/

flickr shows you a calendar view with photos taken on each day. i wish i set my camera's date earlier!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/archives/date-taken/2003/03/calendar/ (it thought it was 2003 for almost 4 weeks, nov 17 - dec 10)

invision
12-28-2006, 03:41 PM
hey canuck!

when you post dont use the quick reply go advanced, then you will see a small tab below where you type that says "manage attachments" that is the upload utility for the boards.

they look really good so far :)

canuck grower
12-28-2006, 05:43 PM
Hey invision,

Thanks for checking out my/our log! They are looking good so far, and today I think I can see some trichs on Betty! I'll have to get my ass down to the mall and grab a microscope soon to be sure. Eventually what I want is a flowering cab like yours with one nicely trained plant and a small HID light. I have a veg cab w/ CFLs in the works and right now I'm experimenting with some clones in soil in it. Cuttings, soil, water, and a ziplock bag over the top under 2 daylight CFLs on 18/6. I hope they take root! I digress...

if you check out these photos you'll see that for some reason I can't attach files to this thread. I can when I reply to other threads. I changed my default reply to advanced already, and I'm not using quick reply.

What I see for other threads: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/335875495_7a074effef_o.png
When I reply to this thread: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/335875496_d0e26c8c88_o.png

For some reason I just don't have the permission to attach files to this thread. I'll have to find the board admin and see what's up since it's not because I'm a new member like I thought.


:thumbsup: Ok back to the plants. When we started them they were on 18/6, and then for the last week or two of veg we put them on 24 hours of light. I was just reading this -> http://www.norml.org.nz/article304.html and it talks about the light and dark processes involved in breaking down CO2 and H2O to form glucose (and water). So can the 24 hour cycle actually harm your plants, rather than help them grow more? I was under the impression that CO2 was used when the light was on to produce plant and flowers, but now I am unsure.


When we look at this process a little closer, it actually involves two different chemical reactions. The first is called photolysis. In photolysis, water is broken down into oxygen (O), and hydrogen (H). Both light and chlorophyll are necessary for photolysis. This is called the light response. The second chemical reaction is called the dark response. As the term suggests, no light is necessary for the dark response. With dark response, carbon dioxide is converted into glucose, with the help of the hydrogen produced during the light response. The distinction between the light- and dark reaction is of interest to the home grower in order to gain insight into the manner in which the plants must be illuminated (and sometimes kept in darkness). The plants grow optimally only when a good balance is found between the light and dark reactions.

So these dark reactions that consume CO2 do not require light, but what I want to know is if the presence of light prevents the dark process from occuring. Anyone? After reading that I would stick to 18/6 in the future.


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/335423383_e9bdd36d27_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/335423383/)
I'm looking at the photos now and recalling what we've done to these girls so far. We germinated a lot of seeds and planted about 20 that popped. We had 15+ in little square pots (they're not pots, I don't know what they're called) and then 4 in teacups, 3 of which sprouted. The ones in the teacups weren't planted very deep unlike the others and they really took off in comparison.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/335890107_7eb6e5c6e3_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/335890107/)
The teacups were pretty shallow, and they didn't have much soil so we re-potted those into some bigger coffee cans fairly quickly. I know rust is bad, but that's what we had so we used them and they didn't end up rusting like I thought they would. Despite their size the coffee can plants seemed to enjoy the new spcae and took off even more. Now we have 5 plants left and 3 of those are the ones you see in the pic there in the coffee cans, so the extra room may have made a difference. The light was probably a good 2 feet above them at this point.

I'd say about a week after that I started putting up aluminum foil. The day after I finished covering the closet I read how the foil doesn't help, and may burn the plants so I tore it down. I guess that's how it goes, right?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/335956467_e267eeccbe_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/335956467/)
This is where we start doing more for the plants and reading more about caring for them, learning how they grow and use light, water, CO2 and that sort of thing. The best ones were transplanted into cheap 2 gal pots and put down in trays on the floor of the closet, which is lined with garbage bags. We have had a big fan in there most of the time to circulate air, and as often as I can I leave the window open for fresh outside air to get in. This is in my bedroom though so leaving it open at night isn't much of an option when it's 5-6 C (40 F).

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/335970062_023aa75c14_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/335970062/)
Till now we had heard about topping and super-cropping, but that was about all. When I saw justaseed's SCRoG (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=52326) on here I just about shit myself! I was really eager to try out some LST and started training plants that we thought looked more female. The way these things can bend is just incredible, and the speed that they will turn up to face the light is pretty amazing too. Betty was quite big at this point and we didn't want to do anything that might hurt her, so she is our one naturally-shaped plant left. I ended up cracking the stem of one of them, but it recovered well and is bushier than the others because the top growth was stunted till it healed.

That's all I can think of to say about the pics that have been posted so far. There are 70-something of them on flickr, so the few I posted here are just for context and if you want to see more they are all there. I'm going to have some more coffee and look for pistils. :rastasmoke:

TheGreenFog
12-28-2006, 06:37 PM
Awesome pics, man. :greenthumb:

Glad you finally figured out how to post them. NOW you have to tell me how you posted them inside the text. :D I always knew you could, but I would like to know how. That would be cool... ...Ohh wait, I think I see how you did it...they are linked to the flickr site. I don't have any of my pics on any other site so I can't link them like that...I don't think.

So, like I said, I really like your plants. They look very healthy. Surprising that you don't pH your water or anything, but hey, maybe you got good 'buffer' soil. Plus, I've notice that some nutes tend to bring 7.0 pH water right into the correct range, so you generally don't need to adjust the pH.

Your camera doesn't seem too bad. Looks like good pics to me. Maybe you aren't using your macro function for the closeups? I'm sure you might know this, but maybe not, so just shooting it out there.

One more note, on the first post you mentioned pistils...I honestly could say that I had a hard time seeing any pistils and that they could have very possibly been males...:eek:...but then you said you are seeing even more pistils now, so hopefully you are right and I was just having a hard time with the blurriness of the pics...and my own color-blindness.

Looking forward to more pics and better closeups! Be cool, canuck.

:rastasmoke: RastafarI

The Fog (TGF)

canuck grower
12-29-2006, 03:35 AM
Hey TGF,

They are very healthy plants. They have had a lot of attention and we haven't spared any expense we can afford for them.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/336917226_78a20ec0fa.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/336917226/)
Betty is female alright! :D there are definitely pistils there and they are much larger now. She's just over 20" tall. I added some notes to the flickr pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/tags/pistils so you can see where they are. I have some new pics posted there as well that are much better! I have been using the macro function, before that I couldn't get anything good that close at all. I got one really close up that I posted above, but there are 2 more, not as close but some sort of visible pistils. Betty has them on the top 4-5 nodes.

Lucy (formerly known as plant #9) has some small pistils as well. She is only 12" tall, but very nice looking.

The other plants are Number Two and #4 (no name yet). There's one more that we think might be a male and aren't really paying attention to much. Didn't give it any karma or anything because if it's a girl, it's not one of the best anyway.

It's Day #41/14.

Today we got them some thrive alive, liquid karma, and foliage spray as well. we'll see how they look over the next week. We also took quite a few cuttings so they might take a bit to recover.

We got some rockwool cubes, a tray cover and some rooting gel and cut just over a dozen clones. They're under 2 daylight CFLs on 18/6. One of the lights is about an inch away from the cover, and the other is a good 5-6" away. I need to get a better fixture for them because right now most of what's holding them up is duct tape! I'll post pics when I can.

That's all for today!

-canuck

canuck grower
12-29-2006, 03:43 AM
oh yeah and make sure that you click on the little All Sizes button above the photos on flickr to see the bigger sizes! those small ones on the main page are not the largest.

canuck grower
12-31-2006, 02:00 AM
Day 43/16

Taking those cuttings and giving them some thrive alive and liquid karma seems to have helped out Betty and Lucy. All of Betty's new growth at the top has pistils on it and she's starting to smell really nice. Lucy has more pistils as well but I couldn't get any clear shots of them yet.

Another shot of Betty: http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600016zp1.jpg

One of the plants is male for sure, but we didn't clone that one at all so that's alright. Still waiting on a couple that we thought looked feminine but are taking their sweet time to start flowering. If we end up with 2 females that's just fine.

I gently tugged on a couple of the clones and they seem to be in there after only 2 days so that's a good sign. I've been airing them out a few times a day and wiping the moisture off the cover a couple times a day. Some of them are perking up from their droopiness.

We put 2 clones in one rockwool cube just to see if they would join together into a super-clone. Hopefully that experiment turns out well.

Well my buddy's here and we're going to smoke a :bonghit: so that's it for now.

-canuck :jointsmile:

Abattoir Dream
12-31-2006, 11:29 AM
betty is gonna grow lots by the looks of things... :)

canuck grower
12-31-2006, 06:59 PM
Hi Abattoir,

Thanks for stopping by. :) Betty still looks good after we took 12 cuttings from her. Since there are 12 more Bettys she will grow lots and lots for a while yet. heh. We are hoping that she'll concentrate her effort into one big cola though.

I've found 2 branches on her that have alternating nodes now, 2 1/2 weeks into flower. One of them is on a lower branch mid-way up the stalk, and the other is one of the new nodes near the top.

I'll try and get some photos up today. Imageshack isn't working for some reason so I'm going to finally try and ask an admin on this board what's up! Hopefully I'll be back later with some pics.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-01-2007, 01:15 AM
Here are some pics from today. I still cannot believe how fast they are growing and I have been saying that since the first week! :D

Betty - over 21"

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5672/s3600015pk1.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600015pk1.jpg) http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6779/s3600014gy4.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600014gy4.jpg) http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7854/s3600021qw6.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600021qw6.jpg) http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/5915/s3600024il9.th.jpg (http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600024il9.jpg) http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5351/s3600020xi6.th.jpg (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600020xi6.jpg)


Lucy - about 13"

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1310/s3600007kg7.th.jpg (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600007kg7.jpg) http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/3460/s3600008te2.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600008te2.jpg) http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9408/s3600010rq0.th.jpg (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3600010rq0.jpg)

Tomorrow I will have been a member on this board for a full week, and hopefully I'll be able to attach pics here. If not then I might have to wait a week or so longer, guess we'll find out next year! Ha ha.

Happy new year everyone! :dance:

-canuck :jointsmile:

Shovelhandle
01-01-2007, 01:32 AM
nice log. Plants are coming along nicely.

Shov

canuck grower
01-01-2007, 01:40 AM
Hey thanks for checking out the log shov. :)

Well now that I have 50+ posts and been around for almost a week I can finally attach some photos here. Fuck yeah!

So this will really be all for this year. Some that are a little older, around where the flickr photos left off. I have to guess that most of these are from the 3rd week. The aluminum foil is down off the walls so I had started reading this board and other sites by then.

I think that's Betty in the first, but I'm not sure when it's from. 2nd and 3rd are all the plants. The 4th pic is of a freshly trained plant. 5th is Betty with 2 of her friends in the background like bodyguards... except they're smaller than she is.

The containers between the pots are a sugar and yeast mixture for some extra CO2. My bedroom doesn't exactly have great ventilation so I'm not sure they're getting as much CO2 as they would outside. Now and then we will put a 2L bottle with some sugar-yeast stuff in the closet, but honestly I think that they are just fine without it. Better safe than sorry though. This first batch wasn't great and didn't put out all that much CO2. In a 2L bottle you can cap it and the stuff starts fermenting and putting out lots of CO2. Well, as much as you let out.

-canuck :jointsmile:

Legalizdahurb
01-01-2007, 02:42 AM
Looking good keep it growing.
I have attached a pic of what i do for my cheapass co2. This way it stops the smell and foam getting into your grow room, the other benefit is you can see the co2 bubbling out of the second tub and that way you know when it is working. After a few days co2 production will die off a bit, just shake the pop bottle and it should get better. Once this stops working then change the sugar/yeast mix.

canuck grower
01-01-2007, 06:34 PM
Hey LH, cool CO2 bubbler. I think I'm going to build one today if I can find some tube around this place. The last bottle I made up lasted for days and days, shaking it up like you said. If you cap it at night I think it helps too. Most mornings I can't even just open it or it will fizz like mad, have to ease it open over the course of an hour or two.

-canuck :jointsmile:

Legalizdahurb
01-01-2007, 09:51 PM
I am glad to help. I am usually to lazy to stop my bubbler at night but it would be quite simple either tie the tube into a U shape over night or just swap the top with the tube in for a normal top and seal it.

canuck grower
01-02-2007, 01:54 AM
LH: Yeah I'll just have an extra cap close by for dark hours. I can't find any tube around here yet though.


I got rid of the males today. The jury was still out on one of them but like I said before it wasn't a keeper anyway, and it still wasn't showing anything at all. Then I moved the 3 girls into just half of the closet and adjusted the light. It's closer to the plants right now but we can move it up as they grow.

The girls are doing great. I hope I'll be able to keep them all but I really have to sort out the odour problem soon. Well, it's not a problem yet which is why I have to do it pretty quickly. I don't have an exhaust in my closet so I'm going to opt for Postmandave's DIY odour neutraliser (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=59316) if I can find some polymer crystals.

I'm going to have to put a cab together so I can get a proper exhaust + carbon filter going. It would be better use of the light as well. I thought I would do it for the next grow but I might have to act sooner.

Betty is 22" tall now and just looks great. She has been a little short on soil since we put her in this 2 gallon pot so today I filled it up.

Lucy is 15" tall now and also has some alternating nodes I just noticed the last day or two.

Mercedes (the plant formerly known as #4) has some pistils barely visible on 2 of her tops. She is the last remaining plant that I trained, but since we cloned her she only has 3½ tops left. One of them is pretty small so it probably won't yield much.

The photos are:

1) Our hood & fan. A few days back we hoisted the fan up to cool the light so we can keep it closer to the plants.

2 and 3) The 3 girls. The 3rd one is of their profile.

4) Betty's profile.

5) One of Lucy's branches.

I'm posting more photos in the photo forum: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=96876

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-04-2007, 01:02 AM
4:46 and I'm waiting for those bastards to deliver the cabinet. I hate this 9-5 waiting bullshit, but what can you do? I can't wait to go buy food though. I'm out of pasta and cereal so that just leaves coffee and chocolate milk. :wired:

The temp in the closet was around 22 last night, and has been 26-28 most of the afternoon. Perfect, so I guess we do like the same climate as cannabis. :weedpoke: Humidity is around 30% so we've been misting them and it goes up to 40% then down towards 30. They seem fine so I'm not really worried about it.

The fat man (my buddy) moved Lucy up with Mercedes so she's closer to the light and Betty has more room.

That's about all I guess. Pics:

1) All 3 girls yesterday, I only had time to snap this one and one of Mercedes before the light went off.

2) The girls today, Lucy up higher.

3) Lucy from the side. She's 16½" tall, skinny lass though.

4) Lucy, bird's eye view

5) Betty from the side. She's 23" tall.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-04-2007, 01:10 AM
a couple more pics for you. :D

The first two are Betty's top and bird's eye.

Third is Mercedes from the top yesterday. Fourth is her from the side today.

Fifth is one of Betty's branches. :thumbsup:

edit: remind me to crop before posting the photos next time! oops.

canuck grower
01-04-2007, 06:06 AM
Got the cabinet! Mylared it and assembled it. I still need to light-proof the front with some tape or thin weather strip foam stuff. Sometime tomorrow I want to move the light and the girls over, but we'll have to see how it goes. It'll be a tight fit for sure. 30" W x 59" H x 17" D, which means there's only about 15-16" to actually work with inside the cab. :/

I'm not looking forward to cutting a 6" hole for the exhaust without a saw. I think a drill and a serrated knife might have to make do, heh.

Fat man if you read this then give me a shout tomorrow so we can go the grow shop and get this cab ready!

bcchronic
01-04-2007, 10:01 PM
Ya man I am pretty packed today. But tomorrow will do.

canuck grower
01-05-2007, 03:58 AM
bcchronic: Ok right on man. All I need now is one more trip to Home Depot and then you can get your light back too. The cab is nearly done and I have almost everything for the "carbon" filter (I'm using kitty litter). Check this thread for cab stuff (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=97032), I just posted an update with lots of photos.
--

If you clicked that link and saw the new cab's progress then you've basically seen everything new today. If you didn't see it yet check it out and let me know if you have thoughts or comments! :)

The girls are still doing great. I read in another thread that droopy leaf tips may be a sign of something wrong, and Betty has pretty droopy tips. You can see it in her photo from the side attached to this post. Their next feeding is just water anyway so we'll see if there's any change after that.

Every morning I spray them with a free sample foliar spray from the grow shop. It's hard to say if it makes a difference or not.

Betty's about 23.5" tall today. Lucy is just over 17" tall now; she's growing like Betty was a little while back. I should be counting Betty's age differently than Mercedes and Lucy, Betty's really around day 55/21.

I'm on my way out so here are some pics quickly!

First is all 3 ladies, I guess they are maturing and are no longer little girls. :)

Second is Mercedes from the top. The rest of them are Betty!

I'm out of here! :D

-canuck :jointsmile:

doco
01-05-2007, 04:19 AM
Ok Canuck, here's the pictures I have of Jamstigators cab. As you can tell, he is using one fan to pull through the cooltube and then out through a scrubber on top of the cabinet. He has a passive darkroom louver for intake and he gets great results...except he cant scrog for shit hahaha, just kidding Jam....the plants burst through the screen while he was on vacation and he didn't get it in time.

Anyway, to me this is a great example of what a cabinet can be. Good luck with yours!!!

canuck grower
01-05-2007, 06:59 AM
ha ha ha. Well he came home to a closet full of pot so I'm sure he was easily consoled about having to neglect the scrog. :jointsmile:

It certainly is a model cab. I remember reading a post of jam's about that louvre, and following the link to buy one. I stored in the back of my mind until I have enough money, with some other things. So many little touches you can do to perfect the environment, it's easy to get overwhelmed and want to do it all at once.

One step at a time though, and each time I grow till I can setup something like that I'll just be refining my technique which will make the waiting more worthwhile. Ha, well whatever makes me feel better eh? ;)

:jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-06-2007, 08:38 AM
Hey guys and girls,

Me and bcchronic were busy doing shit all day and we didn't snap any pics. shit. But I decided to upload some older photos to fill the gap where I left off instead. There are 24 new photos there, page 1 and the first 6 photos on page 2. These are pics from the time when they were flipped on Dec 15.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/

We flushed the girls today and almost finished the cab. The kitty litter filter is done, I just need to get an elbow and hook it up now. The cab is hot though. It was almost 37C but we got it down to 30 by demolishing the bottom of the cab. Well, slightly disfiguring at least. :)

I think I can get it down to ~25 tomorrow. I'll post some pics when it's all ready to go, and once there is a habitable environment for the ladies in there.

-canuck :jointsmile:

Shovelhandle
01-06-2007, 01:40 PM
sounds cool, canuck

canuck grower
01-07-2007, 06:57 PM
Thanks shov, I'm pretty pleased with the whole setup and the girls look awesome.

Some pics of the cab (http://www.flickr.com/photos/canuck-grower/tags/cab/) are on flickr and there's a little update in the cab thread (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=97032).

Sorry for the 2 day hiatus from photos. I'll try not to do that but most of my attention has been on the cab, what can ya do?

Betty is over 2ft now, about a 1/2" over. She has some nice bud sites shaping up and you can see some decent sized calyxes if you look closely. The red on her stems seems to be fading since the flush so I think that helped. A couple of the clones have really purple/red stems so they are the next ones to get some attention. I should post a pic of them here... keep forgetting to!

Lucy has stretched to reach the light and has grown about 1-2" a day. She's up to 20 1/2" now, only 4" behind Betty. I imagine she'll slow down as she gets taller, but we'll see.

Mercedes is quite bushy and is getting a little taller. I can't wait to get a cool tube in there so she can be closer to the light without stacking her on boxes or anything.

The space in the cab is too little for these ladies but for now they fit snugly. Poor Mercedes is probably the worst off at the bottom like that but she's a big girl and I'm sure she'll be fine.

Pics! #1-3 are obvious. 4 and 5 are Betty. I'll post 5 more below this.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-07-2007, 07:27 PM
Ok here we've got 3 pics of Betty first. Then one each of Lucy and Mercedes respectively. It's hard to get bird's eye shots of them now so maybe I'll start taking them out for pics. The light in my room sucks and the best shots are under the HPS unfortunately. Oh well. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-09-2007, 05:24 AM
Nothing to say really, just waiting most days. Tomorrow we're getting some fox farms ferts and we'll start using those.

Here are some pics. :)

The first 3 are all of the ladies. Next 2 are of Betty, still around 24 1/2" tall.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-09-2007, 05:26 AM
Here are 2 of Mercedes, then 2 of Lucy, and finally one more of Betty. :jointsmile:

Canadianbudburner
01-09-2007, 09:46 PM
hey, first off..congrates on doing something im sure many of us here have dreamed of doing!! great work and advice...i really think that this is doable for a newbie grower such as myself..Canada does have great dro prices put nothin beats your own homegrown!! :jointsmile:

Just wondering why you put the aluminum foil back up on the walls of the cabinet...:confused: lol

TxRooster97
01-09-2007, 10:41 PM
Wow, nice job. Good luck to you and happy growing!

Here's a shot of a cab that me and a buddy built for a friend of ours...enjoy!

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=77042&d=1153537175

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82975&d=1156219402

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82976&d=1156219402

Peace! :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-10-2007, 06:38 AM
Hey budburner & txrooster,

Thanks for reading the log and the kind words! Happy growing to both of you. :rastasmoke:

That's not aluminum but fire resistant mylar of some sort. It's a little thicker than the other stuff and since I'm doing some wiring myself I thought it would be safer. The flat, shiny stuff looks much nicer, and I'm not sure but it looks like it might be more effective as well. It's bright as shit in there so I don't really care either way. :cool:

I have about 7000 lumens / sq. ft and 60 W / sq. ft so there's plenty to go around. :D

Any it is definitely doable and you should do it if you have the means. It's a pretty resilient and forgiving plant for us noobs.

That is a sweet cab rooster! I'd like to get some CFLs in there when the temps are under control. Cool tube is supposed to have shipped this afternoon but I have a feeling it didn't.

Today I got some duct and we hooked up the kitty litter filter on the floor near the window. The cab has been moved in my room and things are a little more stealthy. I could hide it fairly well in a couple minutes. That also fixed the largest light leak, the 6" hole in the back.

That cool tube can't get here quick enough. The girls look a little sad and I think it may be because it's so dry here and sometimes the temps climb above 28 C in the afternoon unless someone's here to crank up the fan and spray the room and plants with water. Betty seems to be the worst out of them, Lucy and Mercedes look quite good. Betty's growing though and her cola is starting to form and fatten up, I'm sure she'll be ok.

Betty's still around 24 1/2" tall, Lucy is around 22 1/2" and Mercedes still measures around 15" to her highest top, but her stem is thicker and longer that Lucy. Mercedes must have pretty good genes.

The clones are almost 2 weeks old and most of them seem to be ok. We're just waiting with those not really doing much other than making sure to air them out and spray them and what not.

First are the clones, except for the 2 in dirt under the HPS in the closet. Such a waste, but bcchronic didn't want his light just collecting dust so we planted 2 of the healthier clones.

Next 2 are all 3 girls. Lucy, Betty, and Mercedes from left to right. Then 2 of Lucy. :)

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-10-2007, 06:45 AM
Here are 2 of Betty and 3 of Mercedes. Betty's leaf tips are looking weird at the top. Mercedes looks pretty damn nice though! :jointsmile:

They look a little droopy from being sprayed so often. The humidity varies from 10-20% mostly so we have to do something though. I'm starting to spray the room more to just increase overall humidity. Again when the cool tube gets here it will help to have the cab shut. And the silica gel kitty litter in the "carbon" filter is sucking things dry on top of the dry climate. Shit, what can ya do eh? :o

canuck grower
01-11-2007, 12:16 AM
Lucy's a herm. For now I'm going to trim the bananas, I only see one bunch so far, but if it gets out of hand she's gone. :(

canuck grower
01-11-2007, 06:53 PM
Hi all,

Yesterday the fat man got me really stoned on some juicy fruit and I went to sleep around 9pm! :bong: Ha ha, kind of sad. I was too burnt to post anything so here is yesterday's news mixed with this morning's. :)

Today is the last day in the 4th week of flower, day 55/28. Tomorrow they'll be 8 weeks old. Well Betty's a few days older than that that's why she's ahead for now. She's got some competition now though!

Betty's the biggest plant at 24"' but she's still pretty unhappy. Mid-upper fan leaves keep yellowing, stems are still red (not fading, it was all in my head) and now some of her little leaves near the top are curling. She got a little water with some bloom nutes, karma, thrive alive, and molasses yesterday so we'll see if she reacts to that at all. So far today I don't really see a change. :( Poor girl. Anyone have any ideas of what's wrong with her? She's still hovering around 24", not growing taller at all. Her buds are growing, but she's definitely slowed down.

The other 2 look great, except for the fact Lucy has gone hermie on us. She's still stretching like mad, over 23" now and almost caught up to Betty in height. She's pretty sparse compared to Betty & Mercedes. No more male flowers visible yet though. :thumbsup:

Mercedes is the trained plant w/ over 3 tops. She's doing the best of the 3 right now. Not really growing up much but she is becoming pretty bushy and if we can't help Betty soon Mercedes might be our biggest yielder! Just have to wait...

I put one of the clones down today. It wasn't taking root and the stem was just turning brown and rotting so out it went. It must've been pretty waterlogged because the others are at least growing roots, even if they don't look that awesome up top. In this pic from yesterday you can see it in the back right corner, you can sort of see the stem's brown colour.

Every morning at 7am when the lights come on I get up, open the cabinet doors and prop the fan in front of it to keep the temp reasonable. Have I mentioned that I can't wait for that cool tube to arrive?! :D

PICS! :) First are the clones, then 2 of all 3 girls, and 2 of Mercedes. More in the next post... Oh and I've resized them so they're a little smaller now. If anyone wants the huge pics I can post those but my camera sucks and they don't look good anyway.

More later, including some pics I'll take today.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-11-2007, 07:00 PM
More pics, ok here is one of Betty. See those curling leaves she has? Because of the light it's hard to see the yellowing in other pics of her but that curling can't be good. Too dry and/or hot? I have no idea. I'm trying to keep the humidity high but it's usually around 15-25% so I know that's not optimal. Temps should be ok though, they're 25-28 C (77-83 F) in the day so that should be perfect. At night they don't go below 21 or 22 C. Any ideas?! :confused:

Anyway the next 2 are Lucy and Mercedes, respectively, and finally one of the whole setup. The fan up on my bed like that blowing right on the light keeps the temp around 25 C but most of the time it's on the floor and the temp is 26-27 C. The other 2 girls look ok so maybe temp/humidity has nothing to do with it at all.

-canuck :jointsmile:

Abattoir Dream
01-11-2007, 09:07 PM
they look great...:)

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:13 AM
Thanks abbatoir. :)

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:27 AM
Hey everyone,

I have pics from Jan-11 till today. Betty looked really bad and she was a hermie, so she got chopped and is going to make some nice oil sometime. :( The branches with male flowers were the ones we cloned during flower... hmm, guess what they say is true! Wish I read that before we did it, but I often learn the hard way.

The other 2 girls look great. I haven't spotted any more male flowers on Lucy so maybe I'm not looking hard enough. Nah I think she's alright for the most part. She's about 24 1/2" now.

Just waiting... my cool tube is in the mail, it'll be here by Wednesday but I'm hoping it'll be here before then. :D

The clones are doing alright. Some of them don't seem to be rooting but a couple of the smaller ones are kicking ass! I think I might give them some B-1 soon. In a few days to a week I'll probably plant them in some soil.

Pics! Thursday, Jan 11.

First are the 3 girls, Betty hating me at that point for not knowing what was wrong. Then a couple of Betty close up. One of lucy from the side, and one of Mercedes from the top. Lots more following! :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:30 AM
1&2) Mercedes and then sad Betty again.

3) Fri Jan 12, day 56/29: Betty getting flushed but her soil's too compact and it's sloooow. :( The top where it's less compact was like soup and she was leaning everywhere.

4&5) Sat Jan 13, day 57/30: Betty doesn't look any better... and she was a hermie, so I chopped her down.

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:34 AM
1) Betty upside down
2) Betty's poor little buds. I wouldn't say more than 1g dry.
3) Leaves & stalks.
4) Most of Betty.
5) 2 male flowers.

Still more!

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:37 AM
1) Trim, ground up so it'd dry faster
2&3) Some good bud to mourn Betty with :jointsmile:
4) A jar of iso & Betty... I ran out of iso! I need to get some more and when the rest of her is dry I'll add it in. I might try and save this in my freezer till later because it's not going to yield much at all from just Betty.

more pics from today next...

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:42 AM
1,2,3) Both girls. Mercedes on the left, Lucy on the right. Mercedes is over 17" tall, Lucy is over 24".

4&5) Lucy.

Not a lot to say right now. Starting to see trichomes on some bud sites. :D Looks like they might be a little frosty. I have to get a better camera, but that probably won't happen because I spent all my cash on this already! :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:45 AM
1,2) Lucy

3-5) Mercedes, she's looking really nice. Dense nodes, very green, starting to smell really pungent and nice! I need that cool tube so I can close the cab before it gets danker. :D

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:52 AM
All Mercedes. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 02:56 AM
The clones. Some are faring better than others. :) The second pic is this little girl with a root trying really hard to reach some water. Go! Go! She's doing well and I think in a day or two she'll make it.

If anyone have any idea what problem(s) Betty had you could save a future plant's life if you give me some tips! ;) :confused:

-canuck :jointsmile:

jaGerbom
01-15-2007, 06:03 AM
damn dude those look like some healthy ass plants.

good work

especialy on ur first try...lol im in the process of doing a half-assed grow with bagseed..like 4th day or something...not going so well haha

canuck grower
01-15-2007, 05:53 PM
Thanks gerbom. :) I think we burned them a little with the last feeding. Well, Lucy looks slightly burnt but Mercedes looks good. Mercedes is a cool plant! :jointsmile:

There was a clone ready to go into the dirt so I planted it and moved it outside of the dome today. Another one that I planted a little early also got moved outside the dome, she's probably ready. There's one or two more that I think may show some roots in the next few days. I couldn't bring myself to throw out the Betty clones (most of them are Betty #2s) even though she went hermie. I think bcchronic wants them and until he takes them or decides not to I may as well grow the cute little bitches. I might keep one or two and flower them in the end if I get attached. :D

The smaller ones seemed to have survived best, maybe because the bigger ones were further along in flowering. I'm not sure why but the big ones don't seem to be doing too well. Maybe we should just wait longer but they're starting to look pretty yellow with dark, dark purple stems and even the stalks.

I couldn't get any good pics of the roots coming out of the rockwool but I'm sure most of you have seen many roots before. :) I did snap one of the new girl in dirt so later when I get some pics of the flowering girls I'll post them all.

-canuck :jointsmile:

TheGreenFog
01-15-2007, 09:04 PM
Hey, canuck, been a while. I have been so busy. Seems like you've been busy too. Whoa! I just went through and did a modest skim of the pics and some text. AWESOME! :pimp:

Sorry about Betty. :( I have to go back and figure out what happened to her. That heat is a bitch, eh?

Otherwise, looking nice, man. Looking forward to the flowering. I'll go back and re-read the thread again in a bit.

Be cool, man.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

bcchronic
01-16-2007, 12:52 AM
yo canuck,
phone dont work.
I am comin over.

canuck grower
01-16-2007, 01:34 AM
Hey Fog,

Yeah the heat sucks! But with the cab open and the fan it's a nice temp. The cool tube is supposed to be delivered today, but I was out for a bit so maybe I missed the guy or something because it's 5pm and no sign of him yet. If you have any clues about Betty that'd be awesome. I think she had a couple problems! :(

----

Update on the girls: An hour ago Lucy was 24 3/4" and Mercedes was 17 3/4". More trichs! :dance: Especially on Lucy. Still looking good, growing a little and the buds are starting to fatten up nicely. :D

The clones that are doing well are doing well. :) The others, well they're pretty much goners but a few are still kicking around in the dome for now. I say we have 4-6 good clones and half of those are really good.

Today me and bcchronic were busy going to Home Depot and getting stuff together for the veg cab. He brought over a bunch of special cookies in the morning and we ate 4 of those each. :clap: Ok so the cab has 6x 27W daylight CFLs in it. That's 162W of 5500K or 6500K goodness, over 10,000 lumens. That should be plenty, right?

We mylar'd the inside, put up the lights and that's about it. It gets up to 30 C in there so it's ok but a little on the hot side. I need a better fan than the 80mm computer fan that's in there now. Hopefully the new one won't have blue LEDs in it either so at night it can be darker. ;) I could take the LEDs out, but fuck it.

I might put a soft white CFL or two down the side of the flower cab once that cool tube gets here. Tomorrow I should be able to get all that done! I hope I can get it done anyway. There's a nice spot on Mercedes where one CFL could be a couple inches from 5-6 of her nice branches. :thumbsup:

I got some more iso today and since we didn't have any smoke the fat man thought we should just make that oil. He had to go somewhere for a little while so I cooked it while he was gone. Tried a little and it didn't do much bet we'll smoke it all, he's on his way over now. :bong: The cookies did their job but we ate them over 6 hours ago. I just did a stover with some oil and I got a little buzz. Doesn't last long at all though.

Off-topic: Stovers are where you put a drop of oil on a pin, get your electric stove element hot and then drip some oil on it. Be ready with an empty pen tube or paper towel roll to suck up the white smoke! :rastasmoke: I love oil, so many ways to smoke it! :D

The first pic is Jane (back) and Wendy (front), both are clones of Betty. Next are the clones chilling with Lucy and Mercedes while we worked on their home. Then a before picture, a couple pics of lights and shit. There are more keep reading. :)

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-16-2007, 01:37 AM
1-3) The new veg cab in all it's glory! My bed room is not stealthy at all right now. :rastasmoke:

4&5) The flowering girls.

canuck grower
01-16-2007, 01:38 AM
First is both girls, Mercedes (left) and Lucy (right). The rest are Mercedes. More of Lucy in the next post!

canuck grower
01-16-2007, 01:41 AM
All Lucy. You can see some trichs in one photo but it's a pretty shit photo.

I'm accepting donations for the Digital Rebel XTi fund. ;) :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-17-2007, 07:30 PM
Hi all,

Got side-tracked yesterday and didn't manage to post this update or any pics. Here's what I started to write yesterday, I'll be back with pics and all that later!
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If this had happened to someone else I can hear myself now, "What kind of moron would order a big-ass cool tube for a tiny cab and not ask how big it is?!" ... Well, apparently I am exactly that kind of moron. :) All the smaller 6" tubes are mostly 19-24" long, especially in my price range. So why bother ask what length it is? It'll just fit! Ha ha ha. If only I were a moron that fortunate.

I picked up the tube today and it's just over 31" long. My cab is just over 28" wide on the inside. WTF am I going to do now?

Buy a bigger cab? Can't afford it.

Cut/saw a few inches off the tube? Don't have the tools and don't want to fuck with the tube.

Let the end of the tube stick out the side a few inches and cover the hole at the back? This would've been a winner, but again I lack the proper tools.

SHIT SHIT SHIT!

I wasn't about to go back to the closet, especially since the girls are starting to put out a really pungent odour and I have that scrubber on my cab already. So what I finally did is stick the tube in on an angle. I'll have to get some pics up later so you can see how it er, fits. Yeah, sure we'll just pretend it fits. :) I can't adjust its height now which is quite lame, but hey at least I can close the door. I'm happy enough for now till I can plug the gaping hole at the back where I chopped the cab up.

-canuck :jointsmile:

bcchronic
01-17-2007, 08:11 PM
Dude I am sorry to say this but that is fucking hilarious. Sorry about that. I am glad that you got the tube in though. How is the temp with the door closed??? Give me a shout when you get the chance.

doco
01-18-2007, 03:47 AM
Maryland hydroponics has 19" cooltubes for $59.01 here's a link: http://californiahydro.stores.yahoo.net/ht-reflectors.html
Customs would probably tack on $10 but it's still a good deal - and it'll fit!!

Looks like lots a nugs...keep up the good work.

TheGreenFog
01-18-2007, 02:47 PM
Damn, canuck...that blows, man. LOL...I'm sure we've all had moments like that at times. Guess it goes back to the saying "measure twice, cut once..." Sorry man. Hope you get that figured out. Can't wait to see the pics. :) hehe


Otherwise...things are lookin' good. Hit us up with some updates, fool. :smokin:



The Fog :rastasmoke:

canuck grower
01-18-2007, 04:11 PM
Maryland hydroponics has 19" cooltubes for $59.01 ... Customs would probably tack on $10 but it's still a good deal - and it'll fit!!

Looks like lots a nugs...keep up the good work.

Thanks doco, I'll try to keep it up. :) I wrote MDhydro about shipping to Canada but it was a no go. :( That's why I got this one. Thanks anyway.



Damn, canuck...that blows, man. LOL...I'm sure we've all had moments like that at times. Guess it goes back to the saying "measure twice, cut once..." Sorry man. Hope you get that figured out. Can't wait to see the pics. :) hehe


Otherwise...things are lookin' good. Hit us up with some updates, fool. :smokin:

Heh, yeah no kidding eh? I should've measured even once... ah well hindsight and all that. I'll get on that update in a minute while I have some coffee. For now here are pics of the wedged-in tube. It's been patched up with foil tape and a dark t-shirt since these pics. The second pic looks crazy but it's a view from below. The door closes but I think I can do better on positioning today.

Thanks to you both for stopping by! :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-18-2007, 10:35 PM
Sorry I couldn't get pics up yesterday. I've started a new job and I'll be a little busier from now on. I'm going to try and keep a journal and post it when I get a chance so that I have more to say each day.

I have 38 pics from Days 33 and 34 so brace yourself. :)

1-2) Mercedes and Lucy
3-5) Lucy ... a few blurry trichs in #5

canuck grower
01-18-2007, 10:39 PM
1,2) Mercedes
3) Lucy again

That's all for day 60/33! Gonna go check Lucy for bananas and smoke some of that oil! I hope it's good. Be back with day 61/34 soon.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-18-2007, 11:37 PM
Today I fed the big girls and clones. Zee clones are supposed to get 1/4 strength nutes but I gave 2-3 of them 1/2 strength by mistake. Hope they're ok! Two of them have pistils in their new growth so I hope they can revert to veg without too much stress. The other 3 are smaller and seem to be vegging nicely. :D

First 2 are the girls, same as usual. Then Lucy... almost the same as usual but with better shots of the trichs this time! I think I found out how to really use the macro thing now. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-18-2007, 11:45 PM
One of Lucy and then 4 of Mercedes... I'm 70% sure the last one is Mercedes but I could be wrong. Clones are up next... :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-18-2007, 11:53 PM
First is all the clones. They look pretty happy. :) Then there's Jane, one of the clones with pistils because we cut them 2 weeks into flower. Next is a close up of the pistils. Then we have Wendy and Oprah respectively. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-18-2007, 11:59 PM
Here are Wilma and Veronica. Veronica is the other slutty clone with pistils. You can barely spot them in that photo. That's it for yesterday, day 61/34 for the big girls and day 20 for the clones.

Oh yeah, almost forgot! Here's a pic of what I know as a pud of nasty bong bowl oil. Oh well, it got me baked and I still have lots left. :D

I should have today's stuff up later but I'm not making any promises this time. ;)

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-19-2007, 12:06 AM
Oh and in post #68 there I was speaking as if it was yesterday, shit that's probably confusing since I only did it once. Sorry but I was writing it from that point of view. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-21-2007, 03:54 AM
(written as if this were ongoing)

This ends week 5 of flower for the big girls, and week 3 for the little clones.

The upwards growth seems to be slowing. Lucy's at 25 1/4" and Mercedes is just over 19" at her highest point. Energy seems to be going to the buds judging from the scent change. It's getting really fruity and to me it smells like mango. I wouldn't be upset if it were Somango (http://www.*****online.com/seed_packs.php?seedID=1026&category=Soma) or something. :)

Bring in zee clones!!!

The clones need water every couple days which is awesome. They look great. I topped Jane today. She's at the 4th node or so and looks fine... except for a purple stalk. :( Jane was topped and started training. Veronica is a guinea pig for some NST (No Stress Training) that I read about on icmag.

-canuck :jointsmile:

(close up pics are all Lucy)

canuck grower
01-21-2007, 03:56 AM
3 of Lucy, 2 of Mercedes. Lucy looks really nice! Buds are getting fatter and more dense. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-21-2007, 03:57 AM
2 of Mercedes, the second I pulled the 2 biggest colas together for a pic. Then 3 more of Lucy... I couldn't resist getting a pic of those little buds. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-21-2007, 04:01 AM
I moved the clones so they each have their own light today, except I moved them together for the group pic. I had to top Jane (one of the ones with pistils) and tie her up! She was around the 4th node or so.

It's pretty hot with 6x 27W CFLs in there!

canuck grower
01-21-2007, 04:16 AM
I read about NST (no stress training) so I decided to try it out. I have no idea how it works past the first part, but I'll figure that out when the time comes. You just lay the plant on its side and it bends up. But then the next time you want to bend it how do you prevent certain parts from bending? You tie them I guess. I sort of doubt whether this is less stressful than LST but it's fun to try it anyway. :)

Lucy and Mercedes have definitely slowed down. They're around 25 1/2" and 19 1/2" respectively. That must mean all their focus is on producing FAT BUDS! :rastasmoke: :dance:

I'll just make with the pics because I have friends here and I'm ignoring them. :)

-canuck :jointsmile:

(close ups are Lucy again :))

canuck grower
01-21-2007, 04:17 AM
Close ups are Lucy, after the side shot of Mercedes it's all Mercedes after that. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-21-2007, 04:20 AM
One of Mercedes 2 little tops. Then a bunch of the clones. Third is Oprah (front) and Veronica at the back. 4th is Jane at the back and Wendy in front. Last is Wilma, small but very green! :jointsmile:

I'm out for tonight. I didn't snap any pics today. I think I need a new fan soon! This one just can't pull enough air through the cab. Now I know why everyone urged me to get a Vortex. :) I'll figure it out.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-22-2007, 12:59 AM
Today I gave both girls straight water. The run off's pH was 5.6-5.8 so that's good. Mercedes just isn't fattening up like Lucy but she still looks like she'll yield more. They look great and Lucy seemed to like the plain water. There's not much to say, which is a good thing I think. :D

The clones are doing great. They have 5+ nodes and are growing really quickly and keeping stout. bcchronic started training Oprah today. Veronica is the clone I'm trying that No Stress Training on. She was fully bent up towards the light so I flipped her over so she faces the ground. This way the nodes underneath are now on the top and I think I'm starting to see how this could work without tying anything. Jane barely flinched at the topping and her limbs are starting to grow pretty quick. :thumbsup:

The clones are more fun than the big girls these days. :) Here are 2 pics of both girls, 2 of Mercedes and 1 of Lucy.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-22-2007, 01:01 AM
Ok here is one more of Lucy followed by some clone photos. First up is the recently trained Oprah up front and the NSTd girl Veronica in the back. Next are the other 3 clones. From left to right they're: Jane (topped & LSTd), Wilma, Wendy. Then there is a close up of Jane and one of Veronica. They are small to be messing with but it's fun. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-23-2007, 02:15 AM
Lucy is getting really ripe! She smells just like a real mango and it's getting sweeter. :D Mercedes is starting to smell more mango-like too and she's fattening up. They both look amazing. As usual Mercedes' pot is much lighter already. I think she drinks more than Lucy and has better drainage as well.

Next time I want to use more perlite. We just used a mix from the grow shop they said was good to go. It is but I think I can do better. :)

Some pics of both girls and then a couple of Mercedes' main stalk. It's fuckin' crazy looking at the nodes! And rock hard like when a stem snaps and heals over.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-23-2007, 03:06 AM
She has a really nice clump of buds near the bottom of her main stalk. She is taking her time compared to Lucy but I think she's just plotting right now. :)

canuck grower
01-23-2007, 03:09 AM
She smells like a fucking mango what else is there to say. Fog I know exactly why you want to eat the buds now. They really smell so delicious I wanted to eat one today... I didn't because I know it wouldn't taste like mango. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-23-2007, 03:12 AM
More of this sexy bitch. I have more but I'll refrain from posting all of them. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-23-2007, 03:28 AM
This is one of Lucy's chronic nugs. :jointsmile: and one more for good measure. :D

canuck grower
01-23-2007, 03:58 AM
Sorry for the ass pics. I'm too lazy to take more! :rastasmoke:

NST kinda works but it's definitely not as effective as LST. I wouldn't take it seriously at all but it's fun to try shit.

Next is Oprah, a little kinked but growing fast. She got some fish ferts yesterday and seemed to like that shit. It's smells awful though. Anyway then it"s veronica the NSTd plant. She's almost straight right now because I turned her 180 deg. I'm trying to get light to the other side but I think you have to let the main stalk grow stiffer on a 90 deg angle first. Shit sorry for rambling.

Then there's Jane growing fast as well. And then Wilma on the left and Wendy right.

That's it for today! What do you guys think? I know you're reading.

-canuck :jointsmile:

TxRooster97
01-26-2007, 09:23 PM
Wow...Amazing. Congratulations on your grow. Those nasty little sloots are gonna treat you right! Keep us posted...

Peace

Rooster

canuck grower
01-27-2007, 05:25 AM
Wow...Amazing. Congratulations on your grow. Those nasty little sloots are gonna treat you right! Keep us posted...

Peace

Rooster

Thanks man. :) They really are treating us right! I'll post pics in a second I'm going to roll a joint. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-27-2007, 05:43 AM
I have over 500 pics now! So I took a couple days off. Plus you notice the growth more if you wait more than 24h in between photos. The girls are getting fatter still. I really kept wanting to take bites of Lucy because she smells just like a mango ... seriously, exactly like one. It's amazing that a cannabis plant can smell like that. Today I got a couple mangoes at the grocery store and they were so good, but they just made me want to eat one of Lucy's buds even more. :D

Ok so the big girls are just over 6 weeks now. I think they'll be around 55-65 days but we'll just have to wait since they're bagseed. They didn't seem to flinch when we cloned them but that could add some time maybe. Anyway Lucy's pistils are starting to go orange and she's getting a little frosty! She looks really nice. Mercedes is less frosty and could be a week or so behind Lucy. I haven't looked at the trichs in a few days but I will tomorrow. That 'scope is so good for checking pot that I buy as well. I've become such a critic now that I know a little more, wondering why they harvested it too early and things like that. It's fun though.

I got a 6" Vortex the other day and we put it right on the scrubber at the end of the duct out of the cab. The inline fan is now an intake at the bottom. I really need a new cab so I can set it up like jamstigator's cab... there are pics a page or two back that doco was kind enough to post for me. But hey it's cool in there now! Dry as shit at 10% RH but I don't know what to do about that. The air is moving through that thing so fast... 449 cfm for under 20 cu.ft. daaaamn! I got a $20 humidifier in the room but that barely does anything except within 5 ft of the thing.

I put a shelf in the bottom of the cab so the plants are right near the tube now and it's cool enough. Right under the hottest part of the tube it's just over 30C and it's much cooler in the rest of the cab, perfect!

Pics: one of both girls, Lucy left and Mercedes right. Then a bunch of Mercedes.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-27-2007, 05:45 AM
2 close up of Mercedes and then 3 of Lucy. They are both bulking up really nicely! I cannot get over Lucy's scent. It's just so good. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-27-2007, 05:47 AM
More Lucy. She is definitely the sluttier of the two. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-27-2007, 05:59 AM
Oh yeah I'm glad I got a pic of this. This is a great illustration of why you shouldn't trim leaves at random. I wanted to get a good pic of this but I forgot. Since the light's off I just GIMPed this pic so people can see what I'm talking about. We probably cut this off to give light to a bud site. Oh the irony! :jointsmile: :rastasmoke:

edit: they've been well rotated and such too.

canuck grower
01-27-2007, 06:08 AM
Ok I don't know when these cease to be clones and are just vegging plants. I hear when they're alternating and have 7+ nodes they're no longer clones but I guess there are no real definitions. I'm going to call them the clones for a while longer. :)

So yeah, they are doing great! I'm trying to get Wendy and Wilma(3rd pic) to stretch a little so they're further from the light. Same with Jane the shrub(2nd pic). I think she may make a good bonsai mom one day. Oprah(4th pic) has really dense nodes and she was topped the other day by bcchronic. She didn't seem to flinch and kept growing. Veronica, well she's doing alright (last pic). Nothing spectacular from her yet but I think I may have FIMed her, actually missed and FIMed her that is. I tried to top her. By the time the big girls are ready I should have a couple of these clones ready to go into that cab... or a new one if I can get something to fit the cool tube properly. That would be nice and I have my eye on a cab that dropped $50 in price recently. ;)

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-27-2007, 06:22 AM
Oh yeah, I'm feeding the big girls 500ml every 3 days or so when they need it. 30ml/gal Pure Blend Pro, 10ml/gal each Liquid Karma and Thrive Alive, 1tbsp/gal molasses, pHed to the low sixes. After one more week they'll get just water and maybe molasses every other feeding or something. We're guessing they'll be ready in 9 weeks or so, so 49 days should be good to stop feeding. I think Mercedes might go longer but we'll have to see. She's eating more and I'm actually giving her a little more than 30ml/gal PBP because she seems to want it.

The clones are getting some crappy home depot nutes with LK, thrive alive, and some molasses-derived stuff from BioBizz that was a free sample at the grow shop, NPK is 1.8-0.X-6.6 or something. bcchronic just gave his girl Oprah the biobizz stuff and water last time he fed her. I bought some AN "Barricade" which is a potassium silicate. Zandor said that it strengthens cell walls of stems and that it's useful if you're tying your bitches up so I'm going to give it a try. I haven't started giving it to them yet because they seem small but I will soon because I am training them already.

:jointsmile:

Shovelhandle
01-27-2007, 07:50 PM
:thumbsup:

MadHatter79
01-28-2007, 04:43 AM
Lookin' good man! Definitely healthier than mine!

canuck grower
01-29-2007, 01:40 AM
Hey shov and madhatter. Thanks for stopping by the log! :)

I found out something about our strain today. I met up with my buddy who's bag of weed we got the beans from and he said the grower created this strain himself. It's not stable yet so that could account for the different aromas between the 2 ladies. Anyway he said that he'd try and get the guy to meet up with us sometime so we could talk about it and find out what the parents are and everything. That'll be fun, I can't wait!

-canuck :jointsmile:

Chronic Chrissy
01-29-2007, 02:04 AM
lucy's looking mighty fine there, I can tell how much you care for her. As crazy as this seems I'm just starting flowering and it makes me kinda sad because that means that I'll have to chop them down and kill them and it seemsso cruel after spending hour a day getting to know each individual and care for her needs. But in the end you know the ladies will do you right if you did right by them and it looks like you have.

canuck grower
01-29-2007, 05:11 PM
Hey Chrissy thanks for stopping by! :) I kinda know what you mean about harvesting. It's sort of like raising a calf until it's a big, juicy cow and then eating it. Honestly I can't bring myself to feel bad about it though. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-29-2007, 10:48 PM
Tokudai let us know that today's the day to flower girls in time for 4/20 (roughly) [thread: http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-lounge/100632-time-flip-switch-4-20-07-harvest.html ]. I put the 2 smaller girls, Wendy and Wilma, in the flower cab and then topped them both. I also cut away some smaller and slightly deformed nodes at the bottom. They are 32 days old and have been rooted for ~ 2 weeks.

I also tied down 3 branches on Jane today. They're still really small but she's just getting crazy. I have before and after pics.

Pics! First is the flower cab, then Wilma and Wendy (respectively). 4th is the flower cab closed.

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-29-2007, 10:55 PM
Here are more pics. 1st are the 3 remaining clones that are vegging. Then a close up of Veronica, who I'm No Stress Training. Then Oprah, who bcchronic is training, and finally 2 of Jane. Before and after tying her up today. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-01-2007, 06:48 AM
Tomorrow is day 48 and marks the end of week 7. Pistils are turning orange faster on Lucy now. I guess they have 1-2 weeks left. I'll post some pics tomorrow! :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-03-2007, 05:21 AM
Sorry I didn't get around to the pics yesterday. The work at my job has actually started now so I am busy, which is good! Anyway I got some pics today.

Hard to believe that these little girls are 5 weeks old. They didn't root for 2, but they're still on the small side. They had pretty poor light for a while maybe that was it.

Jane's older fan leaves are turning yellow and curling up. From reading and looking at pics I think that she may have a K deficiency. Can anyone experienced back me up or tell me I'm wrong on that? I'll feed her some straight water again next time and then maybe some of this molasses derivative which is 1.8-0.2-6.4 or close to that, high in K in any case. :)

(I made my diagnosis from this page: Marijuana Plants Problems - Yellow Leaves, brown spots, nutrient shortage etc. (http://www.marijuana-seeds.net/Thanks-ThankYou.htm) ... It could be N I guess but I think the deformed new growth is a factor as well, I don't know if you can see that in the pics or not.)

:bong: toke break! I'm listening to that new Beatles album, Love. It's so awesome I can't get enough of it. Especially the intro to Get Back, Drive My Car/The Word/What you're doing and Strawberry Fields Forever.

Ok here are the pics. 2 & 3 are Jane... please if someone can help out a new grower I'd really appreciate it! You could make a little plant happy too. ;)

4 is Oprah and 5 is Veronica. They are so compact it's awesome. No stretching at all!

:jointsmile: more of the big girls next!

canuck grower
02-03-2007, 05:36 AM
In honour of the new smileys: :S3: EAT MY ASS! just kidding, I love everyone that reads my rambling. weird smileys though eh?

So yeah these girls look so damn pretty I just want to molest their underage buds! Serious jail bait I am telling you!

Mercedes has some brown patches on her leaves. It sounds like she might have too much Mg, or a lockout. Her fan leaves are yellowing more than Lucy so maybe her pH is too low and N is locked out. Next watering I'll pH a little higher than right around 6.0. We aren't going to feed them anymore so I have been giving them molasses (1 tbs/gal) but I might cut the molasses for a watering or two in case it's too much. Also some people say 1 tsp/gal so maybe 1 tbs is too much, but I believe stinky said she does 1 tbs/gal so who knows it could depend on the plant. Shit do I ever ramble sometimes! :jointsmile:

I have stopped measuring their height and started watching trichomes. Lucy's are mostly clear but some are going cloudy. I think she has a week left, maybe 2. Mercedes probably has 2-3 weeks left. We might harvest them at different stages to get different effects. Probably Lucy early since she's more ripe and Mercedes later, when she has 10-20% amber trichs. I think for Lucy we'll wait until they're mostly cloudy and a few turn amber or around there. I like head highs more because I like to smoke and go about my day. What can I say I am a pothead! :S5:

Anyway they are getting FAT especially Mercedes, that whore of a slut. She still has a distinct odour from Lucy though. Not as much mango and something else I can't put my finger on yet. Plus she is maturing more slowly, Lucy's pistils were more orange by the time she had trichs like Mercedes.

Okay enough chat, here are the photos!

canuck grower
02-03-2007, 05:39 AM
2 more of Mercedes (the last set were Mercedes as well) and then 3 of Lucy... If you only look at one of those pics look at the last one! So nice and sugary, yum! :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-03-2007, 05:50 AM
Wendy & Wilma, day i-don't-know-what-the-fuck of flower. I will find out when I look at my earlier posts later. I bet you forgot about these 2 girls I put in for my small 4/20 harvest (except they're in the pics above this, but yeah...). ;)

They are stretching out, Wilma is going faster. I think because I trimmed more of her lower branches off and she has a bit of a nicer place to bask in the light! Lucky bitch. She is fully bent towards the light it's so cool. They probably need to get into bigger pots soon and I don't know what to do about that. It'll work out though it always does!

The pics, first up is Wilma then Wendy second. Then 3 more of Lucy for good measure. :) I couldn't help it. Sorry to whoever pays for c.com's data transfer & storage. ;)

That's all for today! Let me know what you all think and please if you can help diagnose my sickees I will love you, and give you rep and shit! Seriously though help a dude --and some nice female plants-- out. :weedpoke: :rastasmoke:

-c :jointsmile:

jaGerbom
02-03-2007, 08:17 AM
gorgeous looking buds u got there

nice job:S5:

canuck grower
02-03-2007, 05:18 PM
Thanks jaGerbom! :D I'm tempted to try a little popcorn nug sometimes because they look so good! :jointsmile:

That Vortex fan is loud, even dialed down as far as my control goes, so I have just been keeping the little inline fan going at night. Humidity gets a little over 40% so that's no good and the smell even escapes a little at night. But I think they're ok so I'm not going to worry till I can build a new cab that the Vortex can be muffled/insulated in.

The downside to my being able to sleep easily is that when the thing comes on at 7am it wakes me up and then I get 1-2 hours of shit sleep after that. I should get used to it because I have a feeling that this summer I'll be running the lights at night to keep temps under 40 C. My apt. gets way too hot in the summer.

/ramble :jointsmile:

Shovelhandle
02-03-2007, 10:11 PM
I know what you mean about snichin a bud. All the top buds of the Big One are fuzzy and orange hair and it's got three weeks left.

Those plants you have will be great. eh?

Shov

Shovelhandle
02-03-2007, 10:44 PM
Canuck, Check out [attachment=o116745] buds 35 days of 12-12. Looking/smellin' good 'n ready, already.

Shovelhandle

canuck grower
02-03-2007, 11:48 PM
Shov those nugs are FAT! She's going to yield a lot I think. 3 weeks eh? That's a long time and you already have lots of fat calyxes! :jointsmile:

Shovelhandle
02-04-2007, 01:44 AM
Your crop is lovely green and white still. Mine (well these two in that bucket) seems to be finishing up yearly. Are they about the same age? These were all planted 91 days ago and went to 12-12 about 35 days ago. I know this plant showed sex before I started 12-12 though, exactly when, I didn't get. My other four bubblegum are green with all white hairs like yours.
Looking good there, Canuck. You 'll be cutting up soon!

Cracky

canuck grower
02-04-2007, 01:57 AM
Thanks shov! We planted 78 days ago, and today is day 51 of flower. The guy at the grow shop probably assumed we were using clones and said to flip them when they were about a foot tall. I think that's why our buds are smaller than yours even though they've been flowering longer. Just my guess anyway.

I cannot wait to cut them down. I might not buy any pot until the harvest, but then there's still time to dry & cure so I don't know about that.

-c :jointsmile:

bcchronic
02-04-2007, 11:22 AM
Ya It is pretty shitty about how long these bitches have taken to ripen. I am getting pretty impatient. If I was responsible for them i would have smoked them weeks ago. :S5: I am not very patient. Enough about my patience. Thanks goes out to canuck for this log. Sweet pics man!!! And lots too!

Keep it up

Peace:jointsmile:

dusto2k3
02-04-2007, 05:50 PM
back to that co2 bubbler, how much yeast and suger and water are we adding. I wanna add, but i'd rater skip the experimentation part of the whole deal....;)

canuck grower
02-04-2007, 11:21 PM
bcchronic: Ha ha. That's funny seeing as you're the one who said "no let's just wait" when I suggested we smoke a popcorn nug the other day. :D You should never grow a sativa-dom strain man.

dusto: Yes, back to that bubbler. :) I haven't been doing the CO2 lately because I think the air moves too quickly for it to be effective. But I was mixing ~ 2 cups of sugar with some warm/hot water in a 2L bottle, leaving room for another 0.25 - 0.5 L of water. I take a small spoon (probably 1-2 tsp) and add one spoon of yeast to about a cup of cold water and then put it in the fridge. After 5-10 mins mix the yeast-water into the sugar-water and then top up the bottle to your liking. I leave some room so that when I open the bottle in the morning I have time to close it when it tries to fizz everywhere, but if you're leaving it open you can fill it right up. I have tried less and more sugar and about 1 cup / litre seems to be the sweet spot. YMMV. :)

-c :jointsmile:

TheGreenFog
02-05-2007, 10:31 PM
Hey, canuck. It's been a while. I've felt so ashamed having lost track of your thread, I just haven't posted here. Oh well, I have pretty much caught up on things along with the fact that I've been somewhat keeping up with it anyway.

Your plants are looking mighty scrumptious. You better keep that cab closed or I might take a bite. :eat: hehe You stole my idea of hanging plants in the sides of the cab like that to test out small ones. :D Good stuff, man. You're so close to the harvest, man! Looking forward to those harvest pics.

Hey, I've decided I will most likely start a new thread, but I'm trying to put together a little snippit video for the beginning recapping what has been done up til that point. Keep your eye out for the new thread soon (I hope). I'm sure you'll see the vid since you're subscribed! Thanks for subscribing to my youtube...err...video thing. :D

I can't wait to show you what I have cookin'! Mua ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

RastafarI.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

canuck grower
02-06-2007, 02:48 AM
Word fog! Glad you have read the log when can man. Despite what Homer Simpson says (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V31RY5yn9Q) I know that a lot of stoners here have jobs and other shit to take care of. :)

Yeah man we got a little anxious today and smoked a little popcorn nug. It was pretty immature but it got us a buzz for a little while. We were smoking some Haze too (not sure of the exact strain) so we were already baked. I can't wait till harvest either! :D

I never thought I would be creating accounts with flickr and youtube and shit, it's cool though it's like I have multiple personalities except I act more or less the same.

Anytime there's an evil laugh involved I know that whatever's cooking must be rad! Can't wait to see it bro.

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-07-2007, 07:48 AM
Okay I'm tired as shit but here are a few quick pics. The big girls are getting just water or molasses water. They're losing leaves and Mercedes is fattening up a LOT. She's yellowing faster, but Lucy is more mature. Most of her pistils are orange on her top half, but she still has lots of clear trichs.

I'm still using home depot 20-20-20 crap for veg, I need to get something better soon. I have a feeling something's in the works. ;)

Close ups are all Lucy.

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-07-2007, 07:51 AM
2 of these are Lucy... the rest are Mercedes. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-07-2007, 07:57 AM
Wendy & Wilma are starting to show their sex on day 8 of bud. :thumbsup:

Jane is sad, N def I think but all I have to give her is that 20-20-20 crap. Soon she'll have something better. Oprah looks good though, and has healthier looking roots. They are not root bound so we're leaving them in the small pots. Oprah is growing fast too. Veronica is kind of slow going, but looks healthy enough.

1) Wilma, 2) Wendy, 3) Jane, 4) Oprah, 5) Veronica

-c :jointsmile:

TheGreenFog
02-07-2007, 03:10 PM
Droooling... :D

1 - Wilma (She'll blow your house down)

2 - Jane (I'd hit it...maybe)

3 - Oprah (She's having my baby!)

4 - Wendy (Mmmm...)

5 - Veronica (Hey, how YOU doin'?) :cool:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

bcchronic
02-08-2007, 06:15 AM
Hahahahahah that fucking rocks. I love the selection of photos.

canuck grower
02-08-2007, 06:22 AM
Hey fog, those pictures are awesome! Made me laugh. I thought oprah looked a little pregnant! You sneaky bastard! ;)

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-10-2007, 05:49 AM
Thursday night we put Lucy in the closet after the light turned off. She stayed there till around 5pm today I think, 22 hours or so. Then we chopped her down, trimmed her and hung her to dry. I'll post pics tomorrow! She smells so nice. We haven't tried any yet. I'm stoked but I'll post more tomorrow! Come back then and check out the pics!

-c :jointsmile:

doco
02-10-2007, 06:24 AM
Nice job Canuck! Did you harvest Lucy based on the trichome color? You've done a good job with them! Mine are looking ready as hell but the trichomes say not quite yet...

I just told Shov I wish this damn Grow Log wasn't tucked in a corner like this...I keep forgetting to come see you guys.

canuck grower
02-10-2007, 06:35 AM
Heh yeah I saw that post. I know not as many people come in here, but I think I'll do my next log in here anyway. I like it here. :)

As for Lucy, we said we would harvest her a little early and Mercedes a little later to see the difference harvest time makes. Turns out Mercedes is taking longer to ripen in any case. But on Thursday I saw some amber trichs on Lucy and so we went for it. Her bottom half was not ready, and we thought about doing her in halves but then scrapped that plan. The bottom is mostly popcorn nugs and the nice ones in the middle were close to ready! The heads were big and lots of them were cloudy.

doco
02-10-2007, 06:47 AM
Sounds perfect!! Thats the exact stage I wanna harvest mine at too - not too much amber, maybe 10-20%. I prefer the cerebral high to the amber stoned and it sounds like you do too. Nice work!

canuck grower
02-10-2007, 08:10 AM
Oh yeah! It's all about the daytime weed that so I can be high all day and still do things. :jointsmile:

It wasn't even 10% amber I don't think, so we may have been a little anxious. But we were... well, we were anxious.

I took a look just now after they've been hanging a few hours and the buds shrink a lot more than I thought! It'll be a modest harvest, but we're going to smoke some bud so it's all good! :D

canuck grower
02-10-2007, 08:32 PM
Here are some pics of Lucy from Thursday, before she went into the dark for a day.

canuck grower
02-10-2007, 08:38 PM
And here are pics of the harvest! :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-10-2007, 08:40 PM
Look how much the buds shrunk overnight. I thought we might get a 1/2oz but now it looks closer to a 1/4oz. :)

Shovelhandle
02-10-2007, 09:33 PM
now you have drugs! <G>
Cool. Good job, man. I went around 50/50 clear/cloudy last time, same seeds. We all were happy with the results. I have some hard bud that I will let go late on. The rest I will see when it's getting late and harvest then.

Shov

ps, that plant looked like it had lots more time in it... Sho

canuck grower
02-11-2007, 01:52 AM
You think so? Maybe it did need more time. Like I said I only saw a few amber trichs. We'll let Mercedes go till they are mostly cloudy and 10-20% are amber, or around that.

Now we have drugs! :D We smoked a few popcorn nugs today. They get you high and taste pretty good for fairly fresh bud. They're drying pretty quick so I think we'll start curing in a few days time. :jointsmile:

Bree1978
02-11-2007, 04:40 PM
You really think that there is only a 1/4 there??? It seems like more to me, but what do I know? I'll sit patiently and wait for the weight... I really like all the pics and the grow log...Good JOB!! Happy Tokin' and Growin' :jointsmile: Bree

doco
02-11-2007, 08:32 PM
LOL, I always wondered if you were Homer in stealth mode.

Chronic Chrissy
02-11-2007, 11:26 PM
Looking great canuck you must be stoked! my grandma just dropped off a cedar hope chest and apparently cedar sucks buds dry pretty quick. H keeps telling me that if I dry too fast it won't taste as good even after curing and will affect the weed. But we'll have to see. Keep it up. Oh you can get fans at Canadian Tire pretty cheap and they have a selection during winter.

canuck grower
02-12-2007, 07:48 PM
Hey everyone, thanks for the kind words. We are proud of our first nugs! :D The weed is great! They smell just fantastic, a little citrus-ish maybe but still a bit fruity (a bit like mango now). The taste is alright, and the smoke is harsh if you take a big :bong:. The high is nice and up, very clear. It gets better every day too. The cola is being saved for 4/20 so it'll have lots of time to cure nicely. It's in a small, airtight glass jar. It'll come in handy if Wendy & Wilma aren't ready soon enough, and even if they are! ;) :rastasmoke:

bree I don't have a scale and we've been nibbling at the pile already. Maybe I'll buy a scale today. Till then here is a pic of the buds when we'd only smoked a gram or two. The top nugs are somewhat dense. It looks like 1/2oz but because 1/2 the nugs are a bit light and airy it's probably close to 10-11g. I think we've smoked about an 1/8th. :)

doco and now you know! ;)

chrissy Hmm, I think cedar would be nice to dry in too. It's dry as a nun's twat here, somewhere around 20-30% RH. Our buds weren't fat and they dried in 2 days. The stems didn't quite snap, so they are in ziplocks and being aired frequently for now. The outside of the nugs was really dry and I wanted it to even out a bit, but now I'm letting them air out quite a bit till they're actually dry. Oh yeah and I got some fans from staples, the online store. They have a nice little honeywell one for $20, but if you go into the store and ask for one they'll laugh at you; you have to order it online.

Mercedes still looks like she has lots of time left! Her pistils are just turning brown/red and and her trichs are all clear. She is just getting fatter and fatter, but I wish we had fed her just one more week. Oh well, we had no idea how long they'd be. I have other stuff going on so I will try and take pics soon an then update this log!

-c :jointsmile:

Matt the Funk
02-12-2007, 08:24 PM
Nice harvest, I loosely followed this grow since you started, and I would definately smoke that bud.

MadHatter79
02-13-2007, 10:07 PM
Good job man! The strange taste is the infamous "peppery" tast of Jack Herer. I get that same thing from mine, but the high is well worth it. Jack like 70 days of flowering best. The range is 50-70, but I am at 64 and all of a sudden the buds started growing again. (I've been helping them too) Try to wait the fulll time if you can. Smoke is so expensive, that's why I chopped one of mine down early and let the second keep growing. Lookin' forward to your next log. =)

KL4D4
02-13-2007, 10:49 PM
we have the same arm hair structure

dutch.lover
02-13-2007, 11:13 PM
mmm i love bud! you must be a happy guy, canuck!

we harvested our plants at about the same trichome color/ration as you did, by the sounds of it! sucks how much the buds shrink when drying, huh. we only got 3 ounces off 4 plants, which was lower than expected but now we know what to expect! also, the plantz we just harvested are probably going to be the overall worst plants, as they were our first try at growing! im stoked to harvest the next ones!

Chronic Chrissy
02-14-2007, 02:01 AM
Canuck please check out my pics I just got them up and no one's said anyhing yet and I can't wait to hear how I'm doing, I know you can give me some idea.

canuck grower
02-14-2007, 03:32 AM
hey guys (and gals) thanks for stopping by!

MH

Yeah I hope to find out what's in this strain soon! I'm going to meet the breeder. It's an unstable strain he's working on. Coincidently, I had some Jack today. :)


we have the same arm hair structure

lol! i didn't even realize my arm hair had structure to it. still, it's very exciting that we have similar arm hair.


mmm i love bud! you must be a happy guy, canuck!

we harvested our plants at about the same trichome color/ration as you did, by the sounds of it! sucks how much the buds shrink when drying, huh. we only got 3 ounces off 4 plants, which was lower than expected but now we know what to expect! also, the plantz we just harvested are probably going to be the overall worst plants, as they were our first try at growing! im stoked to harvest the next ones!

Yeah man I hear you on that one! I know that the next crop will be better. With Mercedes I think we'll have over an ounce for 2 plants, so that's pretty sweet! I go through about an ounce a week give or take 5g. I know we harvested too early for the bottom half of the plant, but it's ok because the top was perfect and we didn't want to harvest her in 2 halves. The guy at the grow shop told me that when you think they're ready wait another week, but he also said to wait till about 50% of the trichs turned amber! I just have to try one crop of a stable strain, harvested at various times to see what I like best.

chrissy Your girls look happy reaching up to the light like that! When we're all quiet it's because they look great. ;)

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-16-2007, 02:46 AM
Okay it's been a while since I took any pics, and man things have changed!

Mercedes has been flowering for 9 weeks today. She is almost completely yellow and about 1/3 of her pistils are turning red. She looks and smells so nice, it's great! Still no idea how long till she's ready to be chopped.

don't worry there are more pics & posts below this one... :rastasmoke:

canuck grower
02-16-2007, 02:52 AM
The 2 little girls that are flowering for my 4/20 harvest have been in bloom for 2 1/2 weeks now. They were a little heat stressed hanging so close to the light (slight paling and curling on edges and tips of leaves near the top), but they are now a little lower, and in bigger pots, and tonight they got their first bloom ferts.

Advanced Nutrients 3 part + carbo load, big bud, mother's earth tea, LK, thrive alive, phew I think that's all but probably not. Oh yeah Barricade too (silica) and I probably still forgot something! :) They got close to a full dose right away so I hope they're ok.

first pic is Wilma, next is Wendy. They are going to be so tiny. They're barely growing taller so they are going to be like popsicles! very fucking awesome popsicles! :D

canuck grower
02-16-2007, 03:22 AM
Booyakasha! Hear me now bredren! :rastasmoke:

I replaced the shitty 80mm computer fan in the veg cab with a 4" muffin fan for exhaust. I can't put holes in the cab till I get a circular drill or a saw of some sort, so for now the doors stay un-latched and air goes in the front. It works well and keeps the cab between 22 C (72 F) and 28 C (82 F), but usually right close to 25 C (77 F). Till it gets warmer outside that is! I'm dreading the summer if I don't move out of this apartment.

Jane is recovering from losing her fan leaves. They yellowed, browned, curled and died. She's starting to grow again just the past couple days. Oprah has exploded. bcchronic topped her a little while back and since then she was kind of growing free. He has nowhere to take her so he gave her to me. I tied her up and put her in a bigger pot a few days back. Veronica is growing sort of slowly, but she's still really dense so I am trying to get her to stretch out just a bit. She got a little burnt when they were fed 2 days ago.

They all got the AN 3-part stuff as well, some fish fert that smells awful and works great, and LK and thrive alive. I just went straight to nearly full strength, so that's why they're a little burnt. Even Oprah is a tad I think, but it could be an old CFL burn on a couple tips.

First pic is the whole veg cab. 2nd is Oprah, the bush! Then Veronica front left and Jane back right in the 3rd photo.

The last 2 pics are of some NL seedlings I recently started. They are 8 days old today. They went in the dirt last wed, and 2 sprouted that day. the last sprouted the following day. #1 is the one in the back, and is my favourite by far! It cracked and sprouted first and has just been the coolest. Also it's a bit lighter green, has no purple at all on the stem, and is so stout it hasn't even reached past the top of the pot yet! #2 and #3 are stretchier, have some purple on them, and are just a tad behind. They are all awesome though. I need to get a log for these babies, but till then I wanted to show them to you guys. :)

That's it for this update. I hope you all enjoyed it! Check back over the next weeks for harvest pics of Mercedes!

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-16-2007, 05:41 AM
I re-LSTd Oprah because she was unwieldy, and shittily tied. It was a ton of fun, and she looks awesome now. The only thing is I was overzealous and broke a branch. I quickly cloned it, so I hope it roots because it's small. I didn't even notice until I put her back in the cab and took pics, so there's no empty space in these photos. I think the broken one is the one in front on the last pic though, it looks bent too far.

I had to construct a make-shift dome for one clone in the veg cab, so I've get chopsticks and saran wrap on the job. I think it'll work well enough.

LSTing is so fucking fun! :jointsmile: :rastasmoke:

Chronic Chrissy
02-22-2007, 03:17 PM
I've broken many branches, I'm sure she'll clone just fine.

canuck grower
02-22-2007, 10:43 PM
Yeah it looks like it's already started to grow some little roots but I can't see too well from the top, nothing out the sides yet. It's dry as shit but I mist it several times a day, maybe up to a dozen times if I can.

Everything is growing just fucking awesome, and I will try and get a weekly update posted this weekend. My veg cab is getting full! :D

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-23-2007, 01:03 AM
Mercedes has been flowering for 10 weeks today. Technically today is the start of the 11th week I guess. Anyway she looks close to being done, another week or so I think but I still have no real idea. I'd say 80% of her pistils are orange and her trichs are about 60% cloudy with a few amber ones.

She smells so good and so much that my room smells like fresh bud! :rastasmoke:

I think she'll yield an ounce, but I'll try to borrow a scale to weigh her with.

canuck grower
02-23-2007, 01:12 AM
W&W have been flowering for just over 3 weeks and are starting to grow nice, big, resin-covered calyxes! I trimmed some retarded growth at the bottom of Wendy the other day, stuff from reverting to veg since they were cloned 2 weeks into bloom. They have more trichs than Lucy & Mercedes had at their age so I think they'll produce nice buds.

The other 3 clones of Betty are doing great this week. Jane & Veronica are growing nice white roots and will need to be transplanted soon. They just reverted to veg and are growing 5-fingered leaves again. Oprah needs to be tied down all the time and is just going crazy.

canuck grower
02-23-2007, 01:18 AM
For now I'll keep posting about the NL seedlings here. The oldest 3 are just over 2 weeks old and are growing so fast! They have the fattest leaves, the fingers overlap. :rastasmoke: I think they're on their 6th set of leaves now. One of them (the biggest) is showing some yellow/brown spots on the middle leaves. I might look into feeding them something really light this week, at least the one showing the problem. I need to look up what it is in the bible here (I bought it a couple weeks ago) or on that icmag thread...

There are 3 more that are 5 days old. The 4th bean cracked and has been in the dirt for 1 day, I think I see it poking at the top of the soil so it should sprout this evening, for sure by the morrow.

So that's it for now. I have some more pics of the whole veg cab and the clone of the broken branch, but I think I'll sign off for today and go smoke a joint! More pics by next week... I'll try not to go longer than that without updates. These plants grow fucking fast! :D

-canuck :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-24-2007, 08:21 PM
Check out this slut all tied up! She is just insane. In the wise words of Tenacious D:


Man I'd like to place my hand
upon your fuckin' sexy ass and squeeze.
And squeeze!

Take off your blouse,
And your underpants,
Then take a look,
'Cause here me and KG come naked,
Out of the side-hatch...

-c :jointsmile:

orangeman
02-24-2007, 10:57 PM
Damn those are some nice plants, where did you get the light from because I think I want one just like it :).

canuck grower
02-25-2007, 09:03 PM
Hey orangeman, thanks for the kind words! :) I just got the light at the local grow shop. It was expensive but I don't have a vehicle and didn't want to order one online, in case I have to take it back to the shop for whatever reason. It's just a 250W HPS .... hopefully in the near future I'll be upgrading my cab and light to a 400 or 600W HPS.

TheGreenFog
02-28-2007, 07:08 PM
Those plants look f**kin' sexy, man. You remind me of......me! :cool: Hehe. That's a good thing...I think.

So those popsicle plants are lookin' good. You might be able to pass it off for Thai Stick...LOLOL. Don't you LOVE that smell when you go into the growroom! :D:D

Man those re-vegged ones look wicked. And those NL seedlings look to be coming along NICELY as well. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to blow them out of the water with my next log. Haha J/k. I have NL in there too, so will show you what 'mine' look like. Along with the BG as well. :D

That 250w is treatin' you right, man. Good job. If I haven't given you rep yet, I'm going to now, for sure. :D I think I have, though. I would be ashamed. :o


The Fog :rastasmoke:

Shovelhandle
02-28-2007, 08:43 PM
Looking beauty, Canuck!
My new Afghani X Bog Medley look like that at 2 weeks. I'll have to up-date that log before I go outta town next week.

Shov

Mrs. Greenjeans
02-28-2007, 09:42 PM
Hey Canuck,
Glad to see your clones doing so well, especially since I took mine after the principal players were in flower as well. And it just warms the cockles of my heart that you named one of your plants Oprah:)

canuck grower
02-28-2007, 09:46 PM
Looking beauty, Canuck!
My new Afghani X Bog Medley look like that at 2 weeks. I'll have to up-date that log before I go outta town next week.

Shov

Thanks shov! I couldn't believe how fast these grew compared to the first seeds. The second set of NL seeds seem to be going just a bit slower, but are still good. I should start a new log... maybe today. Professional crastination! :D



Those plants look f**kin' sexy, man. You remind me of......me! :cool: Hehe. That's a good thing...I think.

Man those re-vegged ones look wicked. And those NL seedlings look to be coming along NICELY as well. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to blow them out of the water with my next log. Haha J/k. I have NL in there too, so will show you what 'mine' look like. Along with the BG as well. :D

That 250w is treatin' you right, man. Good job. If I haven't given you rep yet, I'm going to now, for sure. :D I think I have, though. I would be ashamed. :o

Heh, if only I had stayed in the closet and pimped that out instead of going to the cab eh? We'd have twin grows sorta kinda now that we're both doing NL. :) ... er, I mean now that I'm doing NL and you're pretending to grow NL to act cool on the internet! ;) How far along are they?

Those little buds-on-a-stick are exactly what I wanted from them. They are getting covered in trichs already and smell so fucking good. I hope they're the 9-10 week pheno and not the 11-12 week one! I think they are, but we never got Betty to the end so I'm not 100% sure. They're more like Lucy than Mercedes.

Shov & Fog

We should have a friendly competition with some of our new plants. That is, if/when me & fog actually start our new logs. :)

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-28-2007, 09:51 PM
Hey Canuck,
Glad to see your clones doing so well, especially since I took mine after the principal players were in flower as well. And it just warms the cockles of my heart that you named one of your plants Oprah:)

Heh, she had a little belly on her too for a while when bcchronic was training her into a Z shape. :) He gets full credit for the name too, since she was his clone till he realized he wasn't going to get his shit ready in time to keep her.

She barely flinched at the re-veg, the other 2 took longer but they're all growing like crazy now. Your clones should do fine! I'm feeding them Advanced Nutrients, following their 8-week veg schedule at 100%. Same with the ones in flower, AN 9-week, medium strength.

It warms the cockles of my heart that you used the word cockles! Maybe below the cockles... maybe in the sub-cockle area, maybe in the liver, maybe in the kidneys... maybe even in the colon. We don't know. :D

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
03-02-2007, 02:58 AM
Mercedes is getting chopped on Sunday late morning or afternoon. 7 PM Friday when the light goes she'll go into the closet for around 40 hours. I can't wait! :rastasmoke: :weedpoke:

Wendy & Wilma still great. They smell really mango-ish just like Lucy so I'm hoping they're the faster flowering pheno. They've got some brown pistils @ 4 weeks so I think it'll be alright. :thumbsup:

So Wendy got left out of the pics... the close up of Wilma bested her profile shot. Sorry little girl, you just didn't make the cut. ;)

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-02-2007, 03:00 AM
LOL! Nice pics. Still laughing at colon cockles.

canuck grower
03-02-2007, 03:04 AM
Jane, Veronica, and Oprah vegging yesterday... more pics from today so just pics for now. ;)

Northerns are going to get a new thread so check the Grow Log forum for that soon. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
03-02-2007, 03:19 AM
what can I say... sex sells!

I took a trip to the grow shop around 11am (I like working at home :)) and since I am short on space in the veg cab I thought I'd try out the grow bags since you can pack those together tight. I got some 1gal and 2gal bags, and a 1gal pot to compare.

:blueknife: So far, I don't like the bags one bit. I don't like filling them, making them stand up, their shape (too tall for my cab, had to fold over), how they hold the plants or how they change shape. Their pliability is as much of a hindrance as it is a boon. And packed together the plants get pretty crowded.

:thumbsup: I think I'll go with square 1gal pots if I do little plants or a SOG, and 1gal or 2gal round pots for mothers or plants for a scrog. Bags are pretty much out for good, I doubt I would try them again. It was a dollar well spent to know that I don't ever want to use them again. :)

So here is the cab today, after a bit of work transplanting these guys and packing them into the cab. It's a bit tight in there so it's a good thing that some space in my flower cab is opening up soon! :D

It's so fucking bright in there you see white after looking in there for a couple minutes... when I look in there for 10+ it gets really bad and I can't see a damn thing when I look away. (there are 270W of daylight CFLs in about 4.5 sq.ft)

That's all for today... more this weekend when it's harvest time!

-c :jointsmile:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-02-2007, 03:42 AM
Hey, thank you for spending the $ so I don't have to. I'd been wondering about bags myself.

canuck grower
03-02-2007, 05:10 PM
No problem Mrs. G. :)

canuck grower
03-05-2007, 02:07 AM
Today I fed them all 80% strength nutes again. I retied Veronica & Jane a bit, and Oprah a tiny bit. They can't really go out much further in this cab, there's just no space! They're almost big enough to fill the space in my flower cab so I should probably throw them in there within a week or so.

I figured it all out one day and in order to produce just more than enough cannabis to sustain myself I need about 3 pounds a year. If I give myself 4 harvests a year I need to yield 12oz per harvest. That's about 1.3g/W with my 250W HPS so I know I can't get that much yet but I'd like to do the best I can. If I can pull in 3-6oz (2-4x my first harvest) then I will be pleased with the results. I'm using more plants and making better use of the space, and the plants are closer to the light and I'm using real nutes so I don't really think that's an unreasonable goal. We'll see if my ambition pays off.

I'm not going to put a screen in this cab so they're just going to be trained, no scrog this time. I want to try a 10-12 plant sog in this cab if I can't get a new cab & light before the next crop (Northern Lights, see sig).

I'll post some new pics of Wendy & Wilma (flowering plants) will be up sometime next week. They are nice & frosty, already on more of the leaf than on Mercedes or Lucy. YUM!

Oh yeah, a few days ago when I was tying Jane I broke a branch. She's the plant in the last pic... the branch did not even flinch! I bet you can't even tell which one it is (unless you can see which one isn't tied down ;)).

There are a few more pics up next... if you were curious. :rastasmoke:

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
03-05-2007, 02:19 AM
Here she is... what a beauty! I can only imagine how much more she might have yielded if we know how long she'd take and fed her accordingly... if only we could have known. Anyway we are far from disappointed, just wishful thinking there.

There's got to be at least an ounce there, maybe up to 35g. I am really going to try and use someone's scale to weigh it up when it's dry. The last pic here is of Lucy's nugs drying... look at the difference... :D :thumbsup: Not to hate on Lucy, but Mercedes was just a better plant on all fronts except flower time.

Thanks for everyone following the log so far, but don't leave yet... there are the 4/20 popsicle girls to harvest and then 3 monsters in the veg cab still to go.

After that I won't grow this bagseed for a while because I have a lot of beans waiting in my fridge that I am really stoked to try out. :D

-c :jointsmile:

canuck grower
03-05-2007, 02:31 AM
This first pic is for you ladies! We know what you girls like! ;) :D Sorry but bcchronic had to stay anonymous in that pic... wish I could post his face because it's priceless, but you know these draconian north american laws on cannabis... girls you'll just have to hope to meet him in real life some day.

and for the guys and girls, some close up bud porn in the 3rd pic! ... the nugs look great, I should get one back under the HPS and get a nice macro shot. THere's no light in the closet to take pics under... no flash with the macro setting on my camera.

The last one I just took to give you guys some context.

Hope you all enjoyed the pics! Ladies I'm sorry if you creamed your pants but sometimes that's how it goes. ;)

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-05-2007, 02:36 AM
Beautiful! LMAO at Tommy's face superimposed.

bcchronic
03-05-2007, 04:19 AM
Green Jeans Superimposed???? No way. That is what I actually look like.:rastasmoke:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-05-2007, 04:33 AM
Suhweeeet!

Chronic Chrissy
03-05-2007, 11:02 PM
Hope you all enjoyed the pics! Ladies I'm sorry if you creamed your pants but sometimes that's how it goes. ;)

Lets see who creams who when the time comes. Looks very yummy though.

TheGreenFog
03-05-2007, 11:24 PM
I should start a new log... maybe today. Professional crastination! :D

Ummm....yea exactly.


Heh, if only I had stayed in the closet and pimped that out instead of going to the cab eh? We'd have twin grows sorta kinda now that we're both doing NL. :) ... er, I mean now that I'm doing NL and you're pretending to grow NL to act cool on the internet! ;) How far along are they?

That'd be sweet. How old are they....? HMMMMM good question. :D We'll have to see. :cool:


Shov & Fog

We should have a friendly competition with some of our new plants. That is, if/when me & fog actually start our new logs. :)

-c :jointsmile:

Your on, bros. ;) Some day. haha Oh, and Canuck, you're plants are the sheezie. :greenthumb:

Edit: Damn, this is like the 3rd time today that I've been at the top of a new page. :D Hmm


The Fog :rastasmoke:

canuck grower
03-06-2007, 06:38 AM
Lets see who creams who when the time comes. Looks very yummy though.

:rastasmoke:


Fog: Me & shov are up and running and I have to say we both look pretty good so far. :)

canuck grower
03-07-2007, 01:23 AM
Well here are the nugs. They were quite dry on the outside so I've started curing them. I'm letting them breathe quite a bit because once the moisture evened out they were still fairly wet. I smoked 2 bowls this morning and it was great! The smell is less fruity than Lucy, more citrus-ish. It's really nice, and it wasn't even harsh in the bong without any curing. :rastasmoke: :thumbsup:

I don't know whose scale to use but I'll try and weigh it up somewhere. I don't have any friends with a scale, and don't want to tell any dealers I know that I grow. What to do?!

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-07-2007, 01:26 AM
Where I live you can buy digital scales at the gas station for 29.95. It's funny, in a ghetto sort of way. I live in the burbs, but a lot of the gas station/convenience stores are independently owned, and they sell lots more than gas and snacks.

canuck grower
03-07-2007, 05:21 AM
Yeah eventually I know I'll buy one... if I do I'd rather just spend $100 and get a nice one though since I want to yield up to 1/2lb (maybe more?) each harvest. But then again if I knew where to get one for $30 it might be a different story. :)

TheGreenFog
03-07-2007, 05:27 AM
:rastasmoke:


Fog: Me & shov are up and running and I have to say we both look pretty good so far. :)

Dude, I've got plenty of pics ready to catch up with you guys. :D I'm just currently working on a VIDEO to put in the FIRST POST of my new log....therefore, I can't start the log til I have the video done. DAMN anal personality. :o

I was gonna start a thread to see what kinds of songs (yes, plural...the vid will be about 30 minutes long!) to put in the background. Maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

Anyway, carry on. I'll be with ya soon enough...if I can stop f**king posting and work on the vid. :p

Nice buds! Congrats. From the eye's glance, I'd have to call that around 100g or somewhere in the vicinity. :pimp: Let me know if I'm close when you find out. I'm sure it will be several grams light by that time, huh?


The Fog :rastasmoke:

canuck grower
03-07-2007, 05:52 AM
I know you have the pics, but they're not on my computer screen yet. :) I bet the video will kick ass... and I can't wait to get in on the music for it.

100g?! dried I think it'll be 30-35g. 100g is way too high. <insert obvious stoner joke here>

TheGreenFog
03-07-2007, 02:31 PM
I know you have the pics, but they're not on my computer screen yet. :) I bet the video will kick ass... and I can't wait to get in on the music for it.

100g?! dried I think it'll be 30-35g. 100g is way too high. <insert obvious stoner joke here>

Ooook...well, I guess I was adding up the three pictures, and they must be pretty light. I guess now that you say that, they are the same buds in each picture, just with a different setup?

So, around 30g, you say? That was just the one plant, right? Mercedes, I think you said...right?

Well, yea, I'm gonna make that thread here soon (the music one), but feel free to throw any ideas into the JOURNAL if you think of any. It needs a good bumping anyway. :)


The Fog :rastasmoke:

canuck grower
03-07-2007, 06:13 PM
Oh my bad, yeah those are all the same buds! I didn't make that clear at all. They are indeed pretty light.

trynagethigh
03-07-2007, 06:28 PM
hey canuck,

check these out..i bought mine at the gas station for 30 bucks and they gave me a card with their website info on it. Pocket Scales, Mini Scales, Gram Scales, Digital Pocket Scale (http://www.myweigh.com/Pocketscales.html)

canuck grower
03-07-2007, 08:06 PM
thanks trynagethigh. they have a link to a canadian online store that is really good. ... i'm pretty close to just getting a cheap one. they have one for $20.

Bree1978
03-08-2007, 12:41 AM
Looks Great Canuk, congrats on the harvest. Post weight if you can. I just got my new pc up and running so haven't updated, but CC is a hemie too (in addition to the other plant I had)....well ttys.

:jointsmile: Bree

canuck grower
03-08-2007, 01:42 AM
thanks bree! too bad about CC going hermie. :( are you going to be able to pick off the bananas?

I just ordered a scale so within 10 days I should be able to post the weight. :)

Bree1978
03-08-2007, 10:47 AM
thanks bree! too bad about CC going hermie. :( are you going to be able to pick off the bananas?

I just ordered a scale so within 10 days I should be able to post the weight. :)


Yah, I've been picking. It happened pretty late, so I don't think I'll have a ton o seeds, fingers crossed anyways!

Bree <-----------waits happily for canuck's scale to arrive...

canuck grower
03-09-2007, 03:03 AM
Bree: I hope you don't have a ton of seeds. Here are some pics for you (and everyone else, of course) to entertain us during the weight wait (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Bu ffalo_buffalo.).

Yesterday I pruned and re-tied the 3 clones of Betty, getting ready to flower them. While Oprah was untied she tried to flee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktlRPcNxWaw)! ... er, no that's wrong. ;) I meant to say that I took that opportunity to look at her roots. I was pretty sure she would be reaching the bottom by now, and it turns out she was around most of the sides as well so she went into a 2gal pot. Then she didn't fit in the veg cab, so she went into the flower cab! She looks great.

She got watered yesterday and so she wasn't fed today. I might give her water once more before I turn on the flower nutes.

A couple more posts are coming so keep reading! :jointsmile:

canuck grower
03-09-2007, 03:09 AM
Not much to say when they're blooming, they look good, smell ever better, and hopefully smoke even better than that on 4/20. Fairly dense nugs too compared to the last ones. :rastasmoke:

they were both fed 500ml today. nutes given according to AN's schedule on their site (heavy dose!). The burn you see is old, it was there before I just haven't cut it off.

[edit: the first 3 are wilma, the last is wendy]

canuck grower
03-09-2007, 03:15 AM
These are the other 2 girls who were pruned... Jane got it bad! It looks like I pruned a little too much so they're filling out for a few more days before they get flowered. I did a much better job on Oprah, I don't know what the hell I did to these 2. What's there is growing fast though so I'm not worried at all. The veg cab is much more manageable now too! :D

They were fed according to AN's veg schedule as well today, 500ml each.

The 2nd pic is Veronica... Jane wasn't felling photogenic at all. :)

I've got them tied very poorly as well, I know this. I just wanted some of them to grow on their own for a while and sort of slow down some others to even it out later on.

canuck grower
03-11-2007, 05:39 PM
I wanted to wait till around Wednesday but the NLs are growing so damn fast that the veg cab was bursting. I keep burning leaves with the CFLs and so today I put Jane & Veronica into the flower cab, which is now also very full. :D

I'm still very short on height in that veg cab, but that's a story for the NL grow log now. This log will have 5 more plants harvested before it's retired.

TheGreenFog
03-12-2007, 02:41 PM
Hey, man. Wanted to stop in and see what you have going. Not many new posts last I've seen. I dig your veg box, though. That's another thing that is different. You are using SOIL! Looks like just the thing to transport your little ones around in, though. :D

Hope to see some new posts and updates today or SOON. I'll be updating my logs soon too. Thanks for dropping by and saying HIgh, as well. :smokin:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

canuck grower
03-12-2007, 04:22 PM
I've made it more of a weekly thing to update the log now. Partly because I've been busier, and partly to be nice to the c.com servers. I run a few websites myself so I feel the pain a popular, free site like this can cause to the servers, and the owner's wallet. :)

Funnily, I hate my veg cab right now! It's so damn low that I can't fit a reasonable sized plant in there at all. But it's good because I have a 250W light I don't have lots of penetration in the flower cab, so it keeps me in check. After the current crop is ready I am going to grow in a SOG till I can upgrade both cabs sometime. One short, bushy mother that can hook up ~10-20 clones every couple months will live in the veg cab. That's the plan anyway! Hopefully starting with the NL in there now.

canuck grower
03-15-2007, 01:38 AM
Final weight of Mercedes' nugs: 32.2g ... that's after only about 1-2g smoked so my guess of 1.5oz (Lucy: 10-15g + Mercedes: 33-35g = 43-50g) was probably pretty close! :jointsmile:

My scale is made of hemp plastic, and biodegradable. Cool! :thumbsup:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-15-2007, 09:33 AM
Nice job CG!
I am jealous of your scale.

Shovelhandle
03-15-2007, 08:10 PM
I use an old postage scale (so old that 1st Class is .08 for an ounce...heheh)
I works good for 1/2 oz up to 1 lb.

So Canuck, where is the thread with your new grow? Is it a continuation of this one? I get a little confused easily. PhhhHHHT.....Phhhh.... yeh......

Sho

canuck grower
03-17-2007, 12:17 AM
Nice job CG!
I am jealous of your scale.

It's a lot smaller than I expected but it's pretty cool. :)


Biodegradable....lol. Looking nice, keep the perpetual harvest going. Keep tying those nl's down.... they'll be huge mothafuckasss :D Can't wait to see some future harvest pics. I'd give you rep... but it seems I must spread some more around first.... should stop by my log... im getting a bit lonley ;)

oh the NL's are so out of hand! i'm going to post pics soon in my log (see sig). i wish i could keep a perpetual harvest but I think I'm going to try and do a SOG soon. We'll have to wait I guess since I don't know yet. :) I'll visit your log before I post some updates today dude. I haven't been posting much recently (too many other distractions!). :)


I use an old postage scale (so old that 1st Class is .08 for an ounce...heheh)
I works good for 1/2 oz up to 1 lb.

So Canuck, where is the thread with your new grow? Is it a continuation of this one? I get a little confused easily. PhhhHHHT.....Phhhh.... yeh......

Sho
1 lb eh? I hope that you need a bigger scale one day. :jointsmile:

Here's the new thread (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/105507-northen-lights-some-durban-poison-x-skunk-1-a.html) (it's in my sig too). It's sort of a continuation ... I'm keeping all the bagseed plants in this log. They're clones of the first ones so to me they're sort of the first grow still... somehow. :) I had to ask what you were growing in your BUBBLEGUM thread so you won't find me pointing any fingers at anyone for being confused man. :D :rastasmoke:

I'll be posting some updates here soon... lots to see! :D

-cg :jointsmile:

canuck grower
03-17-2007, 10:18 PM
Sorry I didn't get these posted last night... my camera and computer just didn't want to play nice. :wtf: But anyway check these pics out because the flower cab is full again! :D

Wendy & Wilma here have been flowering for just over 6 weeks. The buds on them are much more dense than Mercedes' or Lucy's were, presumably due to the presence of the cool tube and thus being closer to the light. I hope they're done in 2-3 weeks because after I clone the NLs in my veg cab I want to flower them if I have the room!

Oprah's tops have started to cola (I can use that as a verb can't I?), by which I mean the # of fingers has tapered off to 1 again. She's starting to smell a little different already, but not like buds yet. Jane & Veronica have filled out their space nicely and are starting to grow larger pistils, and more of them. They've been in there for just a week.

Don't forget to check out the Northern Lights in my veg cab, the link's in my sig!

-cg :jointsmile:

TheGreenFog
03-20-2007, 04:13 AM
Ok, bro...all I can say is "punk rock, dude!" LOL. What I mean is that your plants are looking superb, bro. Loving the small ones. They should be some nice bud. The other ones look LST'd VERY well. Good job, man!

I'm off to check your other thread and stuff. :)


The Fog :rastasmoke:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-20-2007, 05:10 AM
Everybody's so pretty!

rnichilo
03-20-2007, 08:00 AM
dank

canuck grower
03-20-2007, 05:37 PM
Thanks guys. :) I'm hoping for giant colas, but with that many who knows what's going to happen! I also slacked off on the tying since flowering them because their not really in great pots for it. I think they'll be fine. :jointsmile:

canuck grower
03-25-2007, 06:02 AM
There's a new addition to the flower cab. She's a Northern Lights plant from my 2nd grow log (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/105507-northen-lights-some-durban-poison-x-skunk-1-a.html) so I won't really talk about her here (unless I forget). I couldn't bear to throw her away and I don't have a spot outside to put her.

Wendy & Wilma: Almost 8 weeks under their belt and still no sign of the end in sight! I should start looking at trichs but there are barely any orange pistils yet so right now I have to agree with bcchronic they're the Mercedes pheno, which takes 11-12 weeks to flower. I guess my plans to smoke them on 4/20 are out the window but that's ok. :)

canuck grower
03-25-2007, 06:09 AM
Oprah, Jane & Veronica are the 3 huge trained plants. Oprah has been flowering 17 days, but the others are a few days behind her. Oprah already has some trichs forming which makes her the most chronic plant of this strain at this stage in bloom. Proof positive that even someone with zero knowledge about growing any plants can learn something in a few months. :)

I'm kind of pretending I have a screen and I pruned lower foliage so hopefully I won't get as many smallish popcorn nugs. :rastasmoke:

The first 3 pics are Oprah, the veritable forest, and the last is all 3 girls. Oprah is on the right (back) and on the left are Jane and Veronica... I forget which is which to be honest! Front right is the NL girl.

One day I'll have more room and slightly better organisation so things are less haphazard with plants all over that are at different stages of flower and things like that. I'm still figuring all that out but I think I have a good plan. Sticking to it could be a problem. :D

-cg :jointsmile:

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 06:55 AM
Mmmmm. Now I have to start a thread about porn.

canuck grower
03-25-2007, 05:54 PM
i like porn

Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 06:19 PM
LOL! I have no idea why I posted that^. I'm sure I had a plan, but I'm damned if I can remember what it was.

canuck grower
04-02-2007, 01:44 AM
mrs.g: heh. neither do i. :D

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Wendy & Wilma: Day 61

These girls are clearly not going to make the 4/20 harvest. I'm giving them another 3 weeks, making it 12 total. Mercedes went for 11-ish so I think it'll be good. Pistils are starting to turn orange and the mango smell is fading. Trichs are all clear as far as I saw a few days ago.

more on the big girls next...

canuck grower
04-02-2007, 01:54 AM
Yesterday was day 25 of bloom for these fine ladies here. I tried to get some macros but alas only one turned out at all. I'll try and snap some soon. The lights come on at 8pm now to combat warm summer temps. The sun is shining in my window right now and it's great, but it gets far too hot for plants.

Anyway I couldn't be happier with these girls. They have more trichs than Wendy & Wilma at this point (or is it just me saying that every time? I don't know) but more importantly they have much more BUD! :thumbsup: I think Oprah (right) alone is going to yield at least 50g and more likely closer to 80-120g. Wild speculation, don't believe any of it. ;)

Oprah has some brown spots on her leaves. I think it might be Mg def but I'm not sure on that one. She might get a shot of molasses or something next feeding. I thought this AN mother's tea would prevent these sorts of problems... I doubt it's the pH but I'll have to check the run-off to be sure I suppose.

I want to take more pics soon so check back soon for an update!

-cg :jointsmile:

ThE pRoBlEm
04-02-2007, 02:03 AM
lookin great

Chronic Chrissy
04-02-2007, 03:02 AM
Those are some hot sexy bud shots.

canuck grower
05-22-2007, 02:08 AM
what do you think, should i harvest these girls?!

(i am, very soon :jointsmile:)

it's been 76 days.

hydrocannabis
05-22-2007, 04:48 AM
holy fucken A. man thouse are some very very very nice plants and buds.

OMFG OMFG.

what light R they under.

and do U have a pic with the lights off?
so we can see the true color of the buds.

your grow kicks ass.

Bree1978
05-22-2007, 11:03 AM
AND, just where have you been mister??? Oh, yah right smokin' that last smokin harvest you had! Anyways, good to see you again, and your ladies are looking mighty fine!

:jointsmile: Bree


BTW, pic three is my personal fav, shows how fat your colas are....following a close second pic four (for crystal (clear) reasons, lol)

canuck grower
06-16-2007, 06:23 PM
AND, just where have you been mister??? Oh, yah right smokin' that last smokin harvest you had! Anyways, good to see you again, and your ladies are looking mighty fine!

I've been a little busy, and obviously too lazy to post here. Rest assured I haven't forgotten about mykind c.com friends though! The last little popsicle stick buds weren't too bad. They had some seeds, but not many. :thumbsup: You're right about me being busy smoking! :D :rastasmoke:



holy fucken A. man thouse are some very very very nice plants and buds.

OMFG OMFG.

what light R they under.

and do U have a pic with the lights off?
so we can see the true color of the buds.

your grow kicks ass.

Thanks for the praise man! :) They were under a 250W HPS but I've recently moved and have a slightly bigger grow closet/cab so when cash is flowing I'll be upgrading my light to a 400W. Sorry but I don't have any pics without the lights! It seems wherever I move I'm destined to have little to no lighting actually in the place when I unpack. Ah well, I like my lair-like room! :)

-cg :jointsmile:

canuck grower
06-16-2007, 06:38 PM
It's been just under 4 weeks since I chopped those girls down. I still don't have drying + curing down and about a week ago I found a bit of white, wispy mold starting in 2-3 of my jars. :mad: :( Luckily I caught it very early and I was able to cut off the mold, losing only 2g or so. I left the jars open overnight and after that they were fine. No more mold, the stems snap, and I think I can safely leave the jars closed indefinitely now but I still check them every couple days just to be sure.

Anyway, it smokes fantastically! It's an up, slightly head-buzzy kind of stone but perhaps that's because it needs a bit more curing. Besides that though it is great. I honestly cannot believe how much better this is than the first 2 batches. I'm still kind of surprised I can grow weed this good! It gets better with age. When I finally weigh it up (now that it's dry) I'll try to get some close-up pics of the nugs; they're awesome! :D

Here are some harvest pics for you all! There are a few more after this too...

-cg :jointsmile:

canuck grower
06-16-2007, 06:43 PM
When I cut these up to go into the jars I lumped them all together by mistake. It's pretty clear which nugs are off what giant motherfucker Oprah, but the other 2 sort of blend together and I can only guess which plant they were off. Oh well, they're all clones and all the same batch but hopefully I can be a little more careful in the future.

I've got a lovely bunch of chronic nugs, deedley-dee,
There they are a-standing in a row,
Big ones, small ones, ones the size of your head... [I wish]

-cg :jointsmile:

canuck grower
06-16-2007, 06:46 PM
Apart from the final weight I guess that is the end of this grow log... I guess I kind of let it die prematurely but what can ya do? Thanks to everyone who gave me advice, or enjoyed the pics here in this log. You all made my smoke that much better.

On to new pastures though, I've got a closet begging me to get it ready for growing, especially because I've already started! :D

Watch for a new log... it won't be as intense as this one but I've got some Mandala seeds, those Northern Lights I started will finally get to hit the big time, AND there are 2 more delicious BC bagseed plants, with possibly another on the way! Hot damn! I love BC.

-cg :jointsmile:

edit: jesus save me! this is my 666th post :chainsaw: <-- that dude is definitely the most evil bad ass of the smilies! he is even more eviler than skeletor!

orangeman
06-16-2007, 09:21 PM
Well I finally got my grow going and I got a 250w solely because I was inspired from this grow lol. I just have a question. Did you top your clones? I just want to know how you got uniform tops like that by just LSTing because I tried to do my plants like that and it didn't work. My canopy is still sorta uneven in my eyes. I wanted even buds all at the same level. Help me out :p.

evertking
06-16-2007, 09:39 PM
NICE GROW!!!

Shovelhandle
06-17-2007, 01:02 PM
Beauty Grow, man.
Good job with the log too! Thanks!

Shov

TheGreenFog
06-19-2007, 02:49 AM
Hey, Canuck...that grow is sick, man. Those plants look frickin' awesome, man. So, those aren't the bagseeds, right? Those are NL? I'm so surprised they didn't stretch more. Now, I'm gonna have to go back through the whole log again to see how you did that. Lol...good stuff. Too bad you don't come around much anymore, man! Hope things are good. Check out my new Spliff Assist. I'm sure you seen it since you're subscribed, huh?

Be cool, man.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

canuck grower
08-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Well I finally got
my grow going and I got a 250w solely because I was inspired from this grow lol. I just have a question. Did you top your clones?

Right on man. The 250W was great for the space I had! I topped my clones. I find that they barely flinch when they're young too. I basically follow justaseed's method of topping and then tying down the topped branch. You have to start young! That's the most key thing, it's nearly futile to train a stiff branch. Happy growing! :jointsmile:


NICE GROW!!!

Why thank you. :)


Beauty Grow, man.
Good job with the log too! Thanks!

Thanks dude! I sort of failed at the other one, but I have some new pics that I'm posting next! I'll have to check out what you're up to these day.


Hey, Canuck...that grow is sick, man. Those plants look frickin' awesome, man. So, those aren't the bagseeds, right? Those are NL? I'm so surprised they didn't stretch more. Now, I'm gonna have to go back through the whole log again to see how you did that. Lol...good stuff. Too bad you don't come around much anymore, man! Hope things are good. Check out my new Spliff Assist. I'm sure you seen it since you're subscribed, huh?

Glad you enjoyed it! These are the bagseed... I've got some of that NL in bloom right now, 6 weeks in. I'm posting pics soon. :)

I haven't gone through my subscribed threads in a while but I'll check out the new Spliff Assist. :jointsmile:

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I won't make outrageous promises, but from time to time I will try to post pics of my current grow. I'm pretty happy with it but with a larger closet I need to upgrade my light to a 400 or 600W.

Anyway, thanks everyone for checking out the thread! :rastasmoke:
Happy growing!

Shovelhandle
08-27-2007, 12:47 PM
nothing worth photographing, yet. I do have a new grow I started a week ago.

Also, I have a plant from a clone I did during my last grow. It's outdoors and is growing on it's side (I grow all my outdoors like that) I should post a pic in the old log of this. It probably has eight weeks left to bud, though I have no idea what strain it may be. At least it's a fem!

Keep yer stick on the ice.

Shov

growin then tokin
08-29-2007, 07:08 AM
cant wait for pics mate

im watchin you

canuck grower
08-29-2007, 07:31 PM
All my new pics are in my other grow logs (see sig)...