View Full Version : just another question about cannabis.com
the yeag
12-20-2006, 05:24 PM
we have all these rules here, for the better of our community. now i recently read them for the first time, to keep myself from getting the lifetime ban..so anyway i see all these rules like no mom talk no selling because it will get this site in trouble with Leo. why would this site let people become members that are under 18... i say this because most countries and states with relaxed marijuana laws say 18 is a appropriate age. minors for the most part have little or no money to buy products to keep the site alive and minors do not have credit cards for the most part . minors seem to attract attention when they get busted for smoking marijuana. minors have parents who pay for their INTERNET service and do not want them on sites like this, for the most part. why allow minors? in my opinion there is no logical reason to allow minors on this site. when i read about a 15 year old who gets busted in school and brags about it here. or when a 16 year old gets busted smoking and asks for advice how to cheat his piss test. I start to wonder why would this site want to draw extra unneeded attention to itself
TheBudBuster
12-20-2006, 05:30 PM
well good point..
friendowl
12-20-2006, 05:34 PM
i think that the feds or whoever that could potentially fuck up
things for this site is more concerned with trafficking and distribution/sales
then some lil kids getting high.there must be lots of eyes on here
got a run a clean, tight ship to stay afloat now a days
EmoRebellion
12-20-2006, 05:34 PM
I agree.. It would bring the maturity of this forum up a little too..
the yeag
12-20-2006, 05:43 PM
seems strange to me...no mom.....no selling...no begging....no email....no non cannabis subjects.......no minors sounds like a winner
acrca
12-20-2006, 06:03 PM
i agree. we need to get rid of those darn youngins!
Skink
12-20-2006, 06:08 PM
My name is johnny,,,I am 18,,,but I am really 13 but I can't go there so I am 18,,,OK???
the yeag
12-20-2006, 06:09 PM
some form of verification...creditcard something...hell mabye a test
Dro_Princess
12-20-2006, 06:13 PM
That would be the hard thing to do, anyone can lie about their age, how would you verify their age? Ask for a pic of there id? On a porn site if your not 18 all you have to do is click on the Yes I am 18 button and your good to go. Although it may be a good idea legally it would be impossible to know for sure how old some one really is.
iStaaHi
12-20-2006, 06:15 PM
My name is johnny,,,I am 18,,,but I am really 13 but I can't go there so I am 18,,,OK???
hahaha, Exactly is what would happen,
im 17, and i agree with what the thread is about,, well, if this comes in affect ima be 18 in a couple months
budsmoker only
12-20-2006, 06:21 PM
i just turned 18 today.. but i agree with what you said in your first post yeag.. i just think it would be virtually impossible to actualy know someones age..
the yeag
12-20-2006, 06:39 PM
or not getting a fight outa me kiddy....now go to your room
hello3pat
12-20-2006, 06:41 PM
I agree.. It would bring the maturity of this forum up a little too..
Now this I don't agree with, I've older members who are extremely immature and some minors on here that are more mature, their age doesn't always affect maturity.
birdgirl73
12-20-2006, 06:42 PM
The problem is there's no way of enforcing an age restriction or having accurate confirmation of ages, Yeag. And considering that this is an American-based forum and that in America and many other countries, cannabis is illegal for everyone no matter what age, it seems silly to try and set an arbitrary age limit. Besides, I see evidence every single day that some of our younger members are more mature, courteous and attentive to the rules than some of the ones who are past 18 or 21.
As far as buying power or ability to support advertisers is concerned, the 14-18 demographic represents more buying power than you might think. They often do have purchasing power, and if they don't, they soon will. The ones who can't yet buy with credit or debit cards still retain the ability to influence others who can. Plus they have more technical savvy--and spend more online time--than the older demographic groups do. So they soak in more of the advertising messages.
Skink
12-20-2006, 06:58 PM
I think this is a good site for younger people... there are some pretty wise people here to guide and help our youth...
I think this is a good site for younger people... there are some pretty wise people here to guide and help our youth...
yes
and remember, idiocy knows no age
hello3pat
12-20-2006, 07:44 PM
yes
and remember, idiocy knows no age
leave it to Yoda to impart some wisdom. Without this site I know that more than one person would have drunken bong water in hopes of getting higher
JaggedEdge
12-20-2006, 07:56 PM
I think it is good the minors are here. I wish I had found this site when I was a teenager and thinking about trying cannabis for the first time. There are a lot intelligent and mature minors here as well as a few this site would benifit from losing. As someone else said, BirdGirl, I think? Cannabis is illegal to everyone, not just minors in most areas. Kids shouldn't smoke weed, but they do and they will continue to. May as well allow them to find a place with people who are fellow smokers.
I will say thought that I think this place would be safer if there were a way to make it 18 plus site. Perhaps even if it was written into the rules and there was a porn type yes I'm over 18 option. It seems to be enough to protect the porn sites from legal action when kids still figure out how to click that little link.
I do agree it may not be the best to cater to minors. Maybe it would be best to put up some little half ass detection system that everone knows don't work. But if any trouble came this way, the owner could go. Look it's 18 plus site, I can't help if the kid lied about his age. ;)
I'm rambling and don't know if this even makes sense.
JohnGalt
12-20-2006, 08:02 PM
Hey man, some of us minors just enjoy the company of fellow smokers, and in my case, are looking to find new ways to experience things. Just because some of us teenagers are lazy, unproductive, and just all around assholes doesn't mean all of us are. As it was stated earlier there are alot of people over 18 more immature than some minors.
Skink
12-20-2006, 08:25 PM
I think this is a good site for younger people... there are some pretty wise people here to guide and help our youth...
yes
and remember, idiocy knows no age
Did you call me an Idiot???
J/K
TheFatKid
12-20-2006, 08:27 PM
It might not seem it to alot of you members on this site, but I am probably one of the most mature kids in my class.
b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
12-20-2006, 08:30 PM
or not getting a fight outa me kiddy....now go to your room
you like making a hypocrite of yourself?
Skink
12-20-2006, 08:35 PM
you like making a hypocrite of yourself?
Yeag is here to see what he can get away with,,,he will not be missed...
the yeag
12-20-2006, 08:51 PM
Yeag is here to see what he can get away with,,,he will not be missed...
you will not get me to attack you that was not the point of this thread come on mr. mature how about yesterday...do i need to bring that whole deleted mess to the surface i think not....
and skink as far as i am concerned you are a big whiney
ZedRULES
12-20-2006, 08:52 PM
:420thought: They're here to stay,, so this is a moot point.:pimp:
I rather have a few youngsters checking this site out instead of some of the predator.com site they stray to for company...I only hope kids will persue their education as a priority...the more you make, the better the MJ.:noel:
the yeag
12-20-2006, 08:56 PM
i wish I could be one of the pontiff's alter boys...
gee I did not know you were Catholic
surreys princess
12-20-2006, 09:10 PM
let me clear my throat... :D
number 1...... skink is good shit...you be good yeag !!! :p
number 2...... as much as i know i will get flamed for this, i have to be honest..i went round and round about the age thing for a year here, before i was a mod...originally, it was because the owner didnt want to discriminate, and things were run much looser..then the site got bigger..and bigger..then it got sold..i do not know their reason for not making an adult site, but seeing as how this is more business orientated now, i think it kinda goes along with what bird was getting to about the 14 to 18 age bracket...i thought it would be great to have an adult portion of the site, but that was also shot down in past administration due to possible pedophiles..i dont mind the younger kids here, dont get me wrong, but sometimes adults want to hang out with adults.... :o
i dont know if i even made any damn sense...
princess
the yeag
12-20-2006, 09:13 PM
Thank you I understand now
Skink
12-20-2006, 09:23 PM
let me clear my throat... :D
number 1...... skink is good shit...you be good yeag !!! :p
number 2...... as much as i know i will get flamed for this, i have to be honest..i went round and round about the age thing for a year here, before i was a mod...originally, it was because the owner didnt want to discriminate, and things were run much looser..then the site got bigger..and bigger..then it got sold..i do not know their reason for not making an adult site, but seeing as how this is more business orientated now, i think it kinda goes along with what bird was getting to about the 14 to 18 age bracket...i thought it would be great to have an adult portion of the site, but that was also shot down in past administration due to possible pedophiles..i dont mind the younger kids here, dont get me wrong, but sometimes adults want to hang out with adults.... :o
i dont know if i even made any damn sense...
princess
You make sense to me... say what you will about kids being mature and more mature than others who are old,that is true,,,all people are diff...
Wisdom spoken most likely came from an older person...
Wise youth will have an open ear to gather wisdom... the youth that knows everything will end up knowing quite little...
I don't mind the youth as much as I mind some people...
ZedRULES
12-20-2006, 10:24 PM
:cool: :thumbsup: You're on target Skink!!
JaggedEdge
12-20-2006, 10:40 PM
let me clear my throat... :D
number 1...... skink is good shit...you be good yeag !!! :p
number 2...... as much as i know i will get flamed for this, i have to be honest..i went round and round about the age thing for a year here, before i was a mod...originally, it was because the owner didnt want to discriminate, and things were run much looser..then the site got bigger..and bigger..then it got sold..i do not know their reason for not making an adult site, but seeing as how this is more business orientated now, i think it kinda goes along with what bird was getting to about the 14 to 18 age bracket...i thought it would be great to have an adult portion of the site, but that was also shot down in past administration due to possible pedophiles..i dont mind the younger kids here, dont get me wrong, but sometimes adults want to hang out with adults.... :o
i dont know if i even made any damn sense...
princess
Maybe I'm dense.... But how would an "adult's only" section cause worry over pedophiles? As it stands now I think this site probably has a few pedophiles on here. Lets face it, there are a bunch of kids here and if there is a 14 year old on here looking for weed he/she would be a target for any pedo's lurking around.
Despite the fact you aren't supposed to ask for hookups etc. some people still have their AIM accts on here. If a 14 year old were to make a post about how he/she is have problems scoring bud, a pedo could easily IM that child and start talking to he/she outside the forum.
Sorry, I just don't understand how the fear of Pedophiles is reason to shoot down the adult only area...
I just don't think any place on the internet is safe from online predators and can't comprehend how a adult only section would encourage that kind of person. As it stands now, this site seems to have a lot of minors on here. That seems to me like it would encourage pedophiles to hang out here more so than an adult section.
Wouldn't they tend to stay away from something that is adult oriented...? and flock to something that is flooded with kids, some of them to trusting.
TheBudBuster
12-21-2006, 12:50 PM
very good point
BobBong
12-21-2006, 02:38 PM
Besides...If we banned all the kids, where would you go to post yeag?
the yeag
12-21-2006, 02:44 PM
gee bob I hope that was some Canadian humor. I spend half my time around here keeping noobs in-line and the other half in the grow lounge. Noobs and minors generally do not act up in there.
BobBong
12-21-2006, 03:04 PM
gee bob I hope that was some Canadian humor. I spend half my time around here keeping noobs in-line and the other half in the grow lounge. Noobs and minors generally do not act up in there.
I'd go easy on the Canadian bashing, given your record here and the fact that I'm not the only Canadian here :)
the yeag
12-21-2006, 03:20 PM
oh boy bud
Reefer Rogue
12-21-2006, 03:23 PM
I'm 18 now but i joined this site a few years ago when i wasn't. I don't care what age anyone is, as long as they can be mature and share my interests surrounding cannabis.
Skink
12-21-2006, 03:40 PM
Maybe I'm dense.... But how would an "adult's only" section cause worry over pedophiles? As it stands now I think this site probably has a few pedophiles on here. Lets face it, there are a bunch of kids here and if there is a 14 year old on here looking for weed he/she would be a target for any pedo's lurking around.
Despite the fact you aren't supposed to ask for hookups etc. some people still have their AIM accts on here. If a 14 year old were to make a post about how he/she is have problems scoring bud, a pedo could easily IM that child and start talking to he/she outside the forum.
Sorry, I just don't understand how the fear of Pedophiles is reason to shoot down the adult only area...
I just don't think any place on the internet is safe from online predators and can't comprehend how a adult only section would encourage that kind of person. As it stands now, this site seems to have a lot of minors on here. That seems to me like it would encourage pedophiles to hang out here more so than an adult section.
Wouldn't they tend to stay away from something that is adult oriented...? and flock to something that is flooded with kids, some of them to trusting.
I am still grappleing with that comment... AIM,Yahoo,MSN are the pedo targets,,,an open forum IMO has way less a chance to encourage pedo behaver... I thought about the "No PM" rule,,,I can clearly see how that is a deterrent... I am trying to correlate an adult section being a magnet and in my mind the open forum there again would put the kibosh on a perv...
Psycho4Bud
12-21-2006, 03:44 PM
I'd go easy on the Canadian bashing, given your record here and the fact that I'm not the only Canadian here :)
I'd NEVER say anything bad about Canada. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjLLUdePnjY&mode=related&search=):D
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
the yeag
12-21-2006, 03:53 PM
go psycho haha why does a post by the yeag atract so many mods.
canada is great:jointsmile: they created all of these wonderful things
surreys princess
12-21-2006, 03:56 PM
maybe i wasnt clear......i myself never said that it would be a pedophile issue, but at that time it was the opinion that seperating the site with an adult section would leave kids in the crosshairs, ie an adult and under 18 chat...see what i mean? besides, it wasnt my decision..wasnt even this owner, and i wasnt even a mod at the time.....
billion...you should never worry..i will always want to hang out with you!! :D
princess
Delta9 UK
12-21-2006, 07:22 PM
kids are at less risk here than say... MySpace
tootsie roll
12-22-2006, 03:01 AM
I think this is a good site for younger people... there are some pretty wise people here to guide and help our youth...
Better them be here then someplace they can get hurt. IMO, the younger group is in a safe place.
Now, if they'd only learn to NOT bring their stuff to school alfreakinready.:areindeer:
TheKidThatLovesMary
01-11-2007, 02:05 PM
I love this forum because I like to learn, ya i'm one of the many minors on here but i'm not imature about it. Maybe you should make parts of this forum for people above the age of 18, such as the sexuality section? Not only is this site here for information about marijuana but also about life in general i've learned quite a few things over the time i've been here and also alot about marijuana. If i were to get banned i'd understand why, but it wouldn't keep me from reading posts here. This site is full of inspirational characters and great people and if there should be a age restriction on learning then i say so be it, but as far as im concerned it dosn't seem like that big of a deal. :D
PatrickHenry
01-11-2007, 02:30 PM
I think there would be a place for an adult section on this site. Being older (mid 20s), I can identify with the older folks on this site much easier. We all have the same experiences of paying mortgages/rent, perhaps taking care of a family, and we all deal with the same fear of hiding our hobby properly from our employers; and unfortunately sometimes, our family and friends. A lot of us have more money and can appreciate and afford the finer points of the hobby like exotic strains, expensive growing equipment, and ingestion equipment like vaporizers and elaborate bongs. The older you are, the more you have to lose.
I sometimes feel bad for some of the younger kids that are forsaking school and their family lives for this hobby. An adult's maturity lends itself to making better choices, including the use of the herb in moderation as an addition to our lives.
Perhaps the younger guys will learn to emulate some of the older members here and learn something. I don't know. However, I don't think it's particularly helpful to our society to help these kids dupe their parents by teaching them to pass drug tests and so forth. Family first, everything else is secondary, even herb. I wouldn't appreciate someone teaching my kids to outwit me.
ericwt
01-11-2007, 06:18 PM
I do see the many valid points on this thread.
In general I think the underage crowd can benefit from this site. I wish I had it available when I was younger. If you read the fourms you can see how the information and exchange of ideas can help the youth.
However I think an adult section would benefit this site. I feel this is an important market that is being ignored. It would be nice to have a section where we could carry on a conversation with out the "Im sooo stoned...r u?" posts.
But it is interesting to me on one hand they are saying they don't want the gangster attitude. But on the other they are playing into that same image.
Still love this site and will stick around to see what evolves.
the yeag
01-11-2007, 06:27 PM
well think about this....i see soft core porn on this site right now. that may be of minors....not good..i am sure you guys know the thread...the sexy pic one...and another point what would happen if one of the kids has a parent that wants to press charges for an adult on this site contributing to the deliquency of a minor...think about that
stinkyattic
01-11-2007, 06:31 PM
Maybe you should make parts of this forum for people above the age of 18, such as the sexuality section? Not only is this site here for information about marijuana but also about life in general
I think the sexuality section is still appropriate for minors as long as they are given healthy advice but that;s opening a can of worms, who's to say what's healthy?
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