Transplanting

[dusto2k3]

Alright, so I have like 30 clones in RW now. I plan on transplanting them as soon as I figure some things out with a little help from some friends.

So i am gonna do a sog in peatmoss/perlite in these pots. (http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/black-85x85x75-perfect-pots-p-1590.html)

Are the pots too big to go into straight from clones?

[GrowRebel]

Are those 2 gallon pots? I would think you can depending on how big you let them get in the RW .... but for the most part you can. Transplant when the clones are rootbound.

But ....peatmoss/perlite? I've never heard of that before .... is that some kind of hydro?

If you are using soil a good potting soil and perlite would work.
:abduct:

[dusto2k3]

yeah, usually people throw in some vermuculite too, but i cant get that around here.

Its hydro, like a soilless soil....

If i used real soil, like FFOF or something, it would be too expensive to change out every harvest. I do like 30 plants, so it would be pricey, this i can get for like 15 bucks for 30 pots and i get great results. I'm still learning, but ima bout to harvest some nice nuggs here in a few days.

[Splifted]

yeah, usually people throw in some vermuculite too, but i cant get that around here.

Its hydro, like a soilless soil....

If i used real soil, like FFOF or something, it would be too expensive to change out every harvest. I do like 30 plants, so it would be pricey, this i can get for like 15 bucks for 30 pots and i get great results. I'm still learning, but ima bout to harvest some nice nuggs here in a few days.

Nice dusto, that soilless mix sounds intersting. You should post a more info about it, peat + perlite would be very cheap. How often do you have to water/feed etc and do you have it actually set up like a hydro system like a drip system or something? I'm interested.

[stinkyattic]

Please dont' use peat moss!!!!!
If you want soilless, go with coco coir.
Peat moss pH=4.5=your plants DEAD

[bud luv]

hydroton? $20 for 50L, pH neutral, perfect.

[stinkyattic]

I like hydroton for an all-out hydro grow. It's just SO easy to deal with!
But I still think if I were ever going to go 'soilless soil' it would be a coco/perlite mix.

[dusto2k3]

Stinky, alright, i think that that might be some of the issues i had with this grow. Somewhere sometime i had read that the peatmoss was ph neutral (stoned?). I was thinking of using this (coco (http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/5kg-bale-cocogro-coir-fiber-organic-grow-media-p-1680.html)) per your suggestion. What do you think, like maybe 60/40 coco/perlite. If not, what's a good ratio?

I also have these cocotek coir bricks available near me....what about these: cocotek. (http://www.hydroponics.net/i/211001)

Stinky, i see you with all these informative (data/science-backed) posts, I'm curious what are your credentials?

[dusto2k3]

And this hydroton, I would just fill the buckets with the pelets? It seems like I would need to add more to stabilize the medium? am i wrong. I've never dealt with hydroton. Can you give me some info to convince me to se if....i promise it wont be hard..

[stinkyattic]

Since I've never used coco before I'm not really qualified to help with the ratio... I use around 40% perlite to lighten up a heavy, sticky, COMPOST media...now, coco; well that's naturally much fluffier to begin with so it stands to reason you could use a lot less perlite.
I think you might have seen promix being listed as pH neutral... I think they must treat it or something... it's a peat-heavy media.
If you aren't totally in love with soilless I still suggest using as much composted humus as you can get your paws on because the pH is so stable and the organic acids are great for your plants.
If you go with coco, or any other soilless, you might try watering with topmax even in veg, or Soil Syrup (very cheap source of humic acids that you would otherwise get from composted leaf clippings etc)
I've just begun using humates in veg and think they're great.

[dusto2k3]

i have to think about the volume of medium i will be using. I will be using close to 60 gallons of the stuff. Thats getting expensice. Is the hydroton reusable?

[stinkyattic]

Hydroton... more appropriate for a flood-and-drain application. They only hold moisture for so long and need to be flooded at least 2 or 3 times a day. I would not use them in a hand-watered app.
yeah its reusable...
wait until you see how much you have to pay for shipping!!!! :eek:

[dusto2k3]

ok, im hand watering. The stuff is available for pickup. I live close to the link of the cocotek bricks. I think I'm gonna have to go with coco because of the cost/volume ratio.

[stinkyattic]

good plan

[dusto2k3]

Stinky, did you have any cents on my original question. Putting well rooted clones straight into the 2gal buckets? Are the pots too big.

[stinkyattic]

Oh durrr I totally forgot...
Yes. Yes they are too big.
Rooted clones can go into approximately 1 Litre pots and be happy for their veg time...once they hit a foot tall and bushy it's time to get them into a new larger home.

[dusto2k3]

thanks stinky. Maybe keep an eye for the next 1k hps 30 lady ak-47 cocotek sog log in this forum.....

[stinkyattic]

1k hps 30 lady ak-47 cocotek sog log

hahaha that's a mouthful!

[dusto2k3]

Alright. Thanks for the info

[dusto2k3]

yeah, im a bit twisted