Bush considers US force expansion

[Great Spirit]

Just in time for the invasions of Iran and Syria.

Draft time!!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6195467.stm

US President George W Bush is considering a short-term increase in the size of the US force in Iraq, the White House has confirmed.

In a newspaper interview, Mr Bush also said he planned to expand the size of the military to deal with the broader, long-term fight against terrorism.

The new Defence Secretary Robert Gates has been asked to assess the idea.

On Monday, the Pentagon said violence in Iraq was at its highest since the country regained sovereignty in 2004.

'The broader struggle'

A temporary deployment of extra troops in Iraq was "something that's being explored" as Mr Bush considers his strategy on Iraq, White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

Mr Bush said his decision to increase the size of the armed forces was not just in response to Iraq, but to the broader struggle against Islamic extremists worldwide.

"I'm inclined to believe that we do need to increase our troops - the Army, the Marines," Mr Bush said in an interview with The Washington Post.

The president gave no estimates on how many troops might be added but said he agreed with Pentagon and Capitol Hill officials that the current military is being stretched too thin.

The US currently has about 140,000 troops in Iraq.

"I talked about this to Secretary Gates and he is going to... come back with a recommendation to me about how to proceed forward on this idea," Mr Bush said.

The president said he has not yet made a decision about a new strategy for Iraq, which he is expected to announce next month.

'Unvarnished views'

Attacks on US and Iraqi troops and civilians reached their highest level since Iraqi sovereignty was restored in June 2004, a Pentagon report said on Monday.

It said the number of attacks had risen to almost 1,000 a week, with the worst violence in Baghdad and the western province of Anbar, long the focus of activity by Sunni insurgents.

The report came just hours after the new US defence secretary said failure in Iraq would be a "calamity" that would haunt the US for many years.

Mr Gates spoke after taking his oath of office as the new US defence secretary, replacing Donald Rumsfeld.

He said Iraq was his top priority, adding that he would soon visit the country to hear the "unvarnished" views of US commanders on how to improve matters.

Mr Gates also vowed not to let Afghanistan become "a sanctuary for extremists" again.

[Zimzum]

I've heard rumors that the naval fleet is already on its way over. Scary times are ahead of us.


White House Refuses Comment on Iran Report
By Paula Wolfson
White House
19 December 2006



The Bush administration says it will not comment on reports it is considering a naval build-up off the coast of Iran. The reports began to surface as Iranian leaders vowed to defy any international sanctions relating to Tehran's nuclear ambitions. VOA's Paula Wolfson has more on the story.

News organizations in the United States are quoting unnamed defense department officials as saying the Pentagon is considering a buildup of U.S. Navy forces in the Gulf.

When asked about the reports, Bush administration spokesmen refused direct comment.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Brian Whitman said the navy moves ships when necessary, but does not talk about specific moves, plans and contingencies.


Tony Snow
White House press secretary Tony Snow sounded a similar theme.

He said, "We do not comment on tactical moves, reported or otherwise."

Snow was asked if the administration might try to use a military buildup to send a message to Tehran that its support for extremists in neighboring countries must stop, and its uranium enrichment activities must cease.

"Let there be no mistake what our position is toward the Iranians," he said. "But again, when it comes to describing any ongoing military activity, you bet it is not something that I am going to do."

There is already one American aircraft carrier in the region, the USS Dwight David Eisenhower. It arrived a few months ago, part of a flotilla sent to the area to support operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

At about the same time, the United States led a six-nation naval training exercise aimed at blocking the smuggling of nuclear weapons in the Gulf.

Although it has never ruled out military action, the Bush administration has been putting the focus on diplomacy in its efforts to change Iran's behavior.

Negotiations are under way with members of the U.N. Security Council on a possible sanctions package designed to convince Iran to suspend uranium enrichment, which can produce nuclear fuel for civilian or military purposes.

Iran claims it is pursuing the technology for peaceful purposes, to meet the nation's energy needs. But the United States and many of its allies stress Iran has large oil reserves, and wants to build a nuclear arsenal.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that U.N. sanctions would not stop his country from pursuing its uranium enrichment program. He warned Britain, France and Germany that Tehran will consider their support for sanctions to be an act of hostility. However, he did not say exactly how Iran might retaliate.

[Great Spirit]

I've heard rumors that the naval fleet is already on its way over. Scary times are ahead of us. They were already doing war game exercises in the Persian Gulf. Weird huh. lol. I know whats going on.

My theory is that the next false flag terror attack which will probably be a dirty bomb will be blamed on Iran/Syria/Hezbollah/Hamas. This will lead to martial law and an immediate draft followed by an invasion of Iran/Syria/Lebanon and a few nuclear strikes.

It's coming!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :( :( :( :(

[Zimzum]

I don't know why you claim it will be a "false flag". There really is allot of hatred there for Israel and its supporters. These people are very able to attack without inside help. Todays war is far from anything we have fought before. No longer do we fight shoulder to shoulder firing muskets from 20 feet away. No longer are the days of trench warfare. Todays enemy wears no uniform or carries any military identification. They blend in and jump when they see there opportunity. They too exploit a weakness to take advantage just like many conspiracies will have you believe about your "shadow government".

I think this build up which is claimed to be support for Iraq is a cover for an Iran invasion? Bush went all out over Iraq without much support and I think he will do it again with Iran. With or without a major terrorist attack.

[Zimzum]

Come on GS answer me why we would need a fake attack to go against Iran? With there past actions and comments it would get support easier than Iraq did.

[daima]

we ran into trouble scanning for oil
the whole Middle East is coming to a boil
Its the Muslims and Kurds, Bedouin herds
Palestinians and Arabs and Jews in the news
There's so much to keep up wiith it will jangle your head
and the whole situation is running way in the red

I was born in America and i'm proud of that fact
I wish the rest of the world would get off our back
but these slick politicians man you've got to admit
seem crazy as bedbugs and they dont give one whit
about the family on the street with their back to the wall
who cant find a quarter for to make a phone call
meanwhile back in washington champagne will flow
tell that to a homeless man with no where to go

the rich corporations have turned a deaf ear
they dont care who goes hungry they made that much clear
you see the trouble with people is that we want to believe
that they cant turn a profit without tricks up their sleeve
Its the roofers and the truckers and working class suckers
its the firmemen and nurses, soldiers and teachers who
shoulders the blows it comes and it goes its a
six trillion dollar debt that you pay through the nose

East Timors genocide to the core
the Indonesian legions come and gives'em what for
When the coalition army doesnt come to your aid
you may as well face it there's no money to be made
I had a dream last night i was secretart of defence
and i came to the conclusion war doesnt make any sense
but nobody heard me when i tried to rescind it
there were too many people who didnt want to end it:confused: :confused:

dai*ma:stoned:
me loves olive oil
me loves hash oil
but me dont love the oil that
comes from the ground:D

[Great Spirit]

Come on GS answer me why we would need a fake attack to go against Iran? With there past actions and comments it would get support easier than Iraq did.Because Amerika cannot afford another war in the Middle East!! Just let 10-20 soldiers and 100 civilians die each day. Ya thats very justifiable! :mad:

You need to realize that Amerika cannot just invade any damn country it wants to. Iran has a right to nuclear technology for energy even though they are an Islamic Republic.

Bush lied to us about Iraq, so why should we believe this Reptile over Iran?

[Zimzum]

So you say America can not afford another war unless its started by an inside attack? Which would cost more money and lives. Iran may have the right to nuclear technology for peaceful and medical use but these people do not show there competent enough to control such a power. They also have every right to solar and wind power as well. Not everything is a conspiracy. Just because something strays slightly from logic does not always mean it was conspired. Sigman Froid said "Sometimes an apple is just an apple"

Let me ask you have you ever seen the inside of a building prewired for demolition? Do you understand the time to plan a control demo of 2 hugh skyscrapers? The manpower needed to set it up and pull it off? We are talking about hundreds if not thousands of people. Not one has spoken up about there actions? Come on, even the mafia had its snitches.

I used to believe these stories a few years ago but pissplanet does its own job of discrediting itself and cause. And if the US government wanted to turn into a tyranny whats with the hold up? Why not just do it instead taking there time? Why are people like Alex jones, Howard Stern and other people who speek out against there own government not already political prisoners?

[daima]

So you say America can not afford another war unless its started by an inside attack? Which would cost more money and lives. Iran may have the right to nuclear technology for peaceful and medical use but these people do not show there competent enough to control such a power. They also have every right to solar and wind power as well. Not everything is a conspiracy. Just because something strays slightly from logic does not always mean it was conspired. Sigman Froid said "Sometimes an apple is just an apple"

Let me ask you have you ever seen the inside of a building prewired for demolition? Do you understand the time to plan a control demo of 2 hugh skyscrapers? The manpower needed to set it up and pull it off? We are talking about hundreds if not thousands of people. Not one has spoken up about there actions? Come on, even the mafia had its snitches.

I used to believe these stories a few years ago but pissplanet does its own job of discrediting itself and cause. And if the US government wanted to turn into a tyranny whats with the hold up? Why not just do it instead taking there time? Why are people like Alex jones, Howard Stern and other people who speek out against there own government not already political prisoners?

not competent>?
we are?
lets get the Japanese to weigh in on this.
Your insinuation is that america is competent, but yet we did use atomic bombs on a civilian population and then tried to hide all phot0s and film of the devestation.
To conclude...
IMO, other nations in the world would be foolish to leave their security and well fare up to america.
The only nation who deserves such weapons/technology are nations that have used them in the past?

We are in the backyards of nations worldwide, imo, to rip off their resourses via use of military, sanctions, or causing instability in the region.
Lets equal it out and build a few dozen foreign military bases in our backyard to capture the real feeling others are feeling, instead of being told how to feel.
Our government cant even tell the truth about a plant. Dont expect much truth about anything else from them.

dai*ma:stoned:

[Zimzum]

Iran saying they want to remove Israel while its working on a nuclear fuel cycle is like me going into a gun shop and while selecting my gun I tell the dealer "I want to eliminate my neighbor".

Yes I do believe our government puts its hand in other countries business that it shouldn't be in. We fought off the British before here in America for there rule over us. Yet now we do the same thing to everyone else. Its only a matter of time before the rest of the world says enough is enough and gangs up against us. It is already starting with places like Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, N.Korria...

[medicinal]

The thing is, it doesn't matter which country we go to war with as long as we demonize them first, basically to get the support of the hawks, as most hawks could care less which country we destroy as long as those military contracts are filled. As long as the USA is controlled by corporations, there will be Wars as wars are profitable. Profit rules this country. The only people who lost money in Iraq were the American taxpayers, Everyone else involved made millions. So be prepared for continous war. The plutocrats have set up this "War on terror" scenario, which basically means, war never ends, it just moves from one place to another, hopefully not to America or all their support would be lost, so we must keep it distant as in "We'll fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here", a G.W. Bush quote! So yes, we'll probably be fighting in Iran or Syria or Lebanon, or Pakistan, or Goofistan, etc.,etc..

[daima]

Iran saying they want to remove Israel while its working on a nuclear fuel cycle is like me going into a gun shop and while selecting my gun I tell the dealer "I want to eliminate my neighbor".

Yes I do believe our government puts its hand in other countries business that it shouldn't be in. We fought off the British before here in America for there rule over us. Yet now we do the same thing to everyone else. Its only a matter of time before the rest of the world says enough is enough and gangs up against us. It is already starting with places like Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, N.Korria...

and the usa is calling nations who oppose them "axis of evil", and promises to put an end to them.

dai*ma:stoned:
say you love me
say you need me
say you want me
dont disappoint me

[daima]

Anyone wanna move to Alaska?

i got a friend that moved to Alaska to become a lumberjack.
He came back a husky fucker. :o (rut ro)

dai*ma:stoned:
I went on a cruise to Alaska and it was just awesome.
I love San Francisco too much to ever move.

[Great Spirit]

So you say America can not afford another war unless its started by an inside attack? Which would cost more money and lives. Iran may have the right to nuclear technology for peaceful and medical use but these people do not show there competent enough to control such a power. They also have every right to solar and wind power as well. Not everything is a conspiracy. Just because something strays slightly from logic does not always mean it was conspired. Sigman Froid said "Sometimes an apple is just an apple"

Let me ask you have you ever seen the inside of a building prewired for demolition? Do you understand the time to plan a control demo of 2 hugh skyscrapers? The manpower needed to set it up and pull it off? We are talking about hundreds if not thousands of people. Not one has spoken up about there actions? Come on, even the mafia had its snitches.

I used to believe these stories a few years ago but pissplanet does its own job of discrediting itself and cause. And if the US government wanted to turn into a tyranny whats with the hold up? Why not just do it instead taking there time? Why are people like Alex jones, Howard Stern and other people who speek out against there own government not already political prisoners?Iran has over 3 times the size and population of Iraq!! Where will we get the soldiers and manpower for this operation? Only from a false flag attack to implement a draft!

The only reason we are over in Iraq and Afghanistan is because of the inside attack of 9/11. I will not go into detail about the Reichstag Fire.....I mean 9/11 being an inside job because it has already been discussed here MANY times. They still wont talk about Building 7 at all because when you watch the footage of it crumbling, it is done demolition style or "pulled" as Larry Silverstein so eloquently put it. Now it takes at least weeks and even months to do a demolition pull...so how could they have done this all in one day? THEY DIDN'T!!!!

Before the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration's main cause for the war was that Saddam was linked with al-(CIA)Qaida, which was a pure lie and they knew it along with WMDs which proved were false. THAT ALONE IS GROUNDS OF IMPEACHMENT AND PROSECUTION FOR LYING!!!

My question to you is...why should there be restrictions on freedom now after an attack with the Patriot Act being implemented? Smells like bullshit to me! After all, Hitler did pass an act called the Enabling Act after the Reichstag Fire which limited freedoms for a certain amount of time.

Don't end up like the good little Germans of the 30s and may December 21st 2012 come!!

Peace, Love, and Light from the Galactic Federation.

[Zimzum]

Iran has over 3 times the size and population of Iraq!! Where will we get the soldiers and manpower for this operation? Only from a false flag attack to implement a draft!

There was no terrorist attack during Vietnam yet there was a draft. We still have a large amount of reserves and national guard that can still be called up for duty.

The only reason we are over in Iraq and Afghanistan is because of the inside attack of 9/11. I will not go into detail about the Reichstag Fire.....I mean 9/11 being an inside job because it has already been discussed here MANY times. They still wont talk about Building 7 at all because when you watch the footage of it crumbling, it is done demolition style or "pulled" as Larry Silverstein so eloquently put it. Now it takes at least weeks and even months to do a demolition pull...so how could they have done this all in one day? THEY DIDN'T!!!!

Again I ask you have you seen a building that has been prewired for demo? To actually snake every wire through the walls to conceal them would require large amounts of time and be very noticeable by people working in the building. Any reports of unusual electrical work being done, light demo work being done? Any unusual work at all being done by contractors? You simply can not do what you claim they did without people seeing it being done in the first place. You can not conceal very large spools of wiring to hook up everything. Each WTC building would have required thousands of miles of electrical cable to reach all the charges

Before the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration's main cause for the war was that Saddam was linked with al-(CIA)Qaida, which was a pure lie and they knew it along with WMDs which proved were false. THAT ALONE IS GROUNDS OF IMPEACHMENT AND PROSECUTION FOR LYING!!!

I agree. He is our leader and should be held accountable for his actions. Even if it was based off of bad intel. But then again if nothing was done and something did happen it would just be chalked up to global domination?

My question to you is...why should there be restrictions on freedom now after an attack with the Patriot Act being implemented? Smells like bullshit to me! After all, Hitler did pass an act called the Enabling Act after the Reichstag Fire which limited freedoms for a certain amount of time.

Any law regardless of what it is will inhibit freedom. If I made a new country and the only law I passed was no murdering. You can bet someone out there would say I'm violating there right to do so. There has to be a balance with protection and freedom. Unfortunately supporting one weakens the other.

Don't end up like the good little Germans of the 30s and may December 21st 2012 come!!

I don't get the 2012 comment but I bet its a good story

Peace, Love, and Light from the Galactic Federation.

You don't happen to know who Riley Martin is do you?



You say that our government and media are all liers and neocons and they shouldn't be trusted. Yet you listen to these sites that only promote everything is a cover up.

[Great Spirit]

Yes there was a false flag terror attack during Vietnam. It was called the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 where Johnson blamed the attack on the USS Liberty on the North Vietnamese forces. It led to the open involvement in Vietnam.

The truth is that we have sick motherfuckers in this reality who will do anything to get off from killing. They lie and manipulate....and they enjoy what they do which is scary.

Mark my words. There will be another false flag terror attack before the end of this year or next year which will lead to the conflict against Iran and Syria. That will be the justification they need.

Currently, the Amerikan public would never stand for a war against Iran just because the administration SAYS they think the uranium enrichment program is for nuclear weapons. We are too over streched in Iraq. Plus, it was CONGRESS who voted for the Iraq War...not the people. The war in Iraq was based on pure lies and Saddam was never a direct threat to the U.S., yet Congress still believed their bullshit.

BUT...if you implement another false flag terror attack like 9/11, yes you will have brainwashed people rallying behind you to invade any country they say was responsible such as Iran and Syria and a draft!

Hell, North Korea is said to have admitted to having nuclear weapons already, yet Bush doesn't send a carrier fleet over there. I wonder why!

It was the inside job of 9/11 that gave the green flag for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. The public never would have went with it if 9/11 never happened. Iran and Syria are next!! :mad: :mad:

[Krogith]

Again I ask you have you seen a building that has been prewired for demo? To actually snake every wire through the walls to conceal them would require large amounts of time and be very noticeable by people working in the building. Any reports of unusual electrical work being done, light demo work being done? Any unusual work at all being done by contractors? You simply can not do what you claim they did without people seeing it being done in the first place. You can not conceal very large spools of wiring to hook up everything. Each WTC building would have required thousands of miles of electrical cable to reach all the charges


You seriously think someone couldn't set up charges remotely? Some how that would be impossible? Explain please

Hell, North Korea is said to have admitted to having nuclear weapons already, yet Bush doesn't send a carrier fleet over there. I wonder why! <--- best point, N Korea is way crazyer than Iran

Side point is Iseral isn't even supost to have Nukes and they Do, Why don;t we take theres away also?

[Zimzum]

Each charge would have to be connected physically to an electrical source. Most companies will use a charge box and manually touch them one at a time to complete each connection and detonate. To depend on a remote control to set them off would be extremely dangerous and a high risk of them being accidentally set off by a stray radio frequency. There is a reason why you see signs to turn off cell phones and CB radios when you drive by an area where blasting is to occur. Fail safes are not always foolproof. And wouldn't a premature detonation cause an investigation as to why it was there in the first place? And wouldn't that leave allot of witnesses, the ones who did all the labor of it? You know that no multi trilionair is gona do the physical labor themselves.

You keep mentioning the Reichstag Fire. It happened around 9pm with no one inside to just kill off. If 9/11 was staged why not do it at 2am when causalities would be alot less?

[Krogith]

So people in iraq can make IED's but the CIA can't figure that one out Hmmmm some how I don;t buy your reason call me Crazy

O and WTC7 just happen to fall Flat by Fire..... Right......

[Krogith]

Don't end up like the good little Germans of the 30s and may December 21st 2012 come!!

GS please read Matthew 24:36

The mayans Don't Know Ither! :D or Didn't hehe

[Great Spirit]

GS please read Matthew 24:36

The mayans Don't Know Ither! :D or Didn't heheConsidering the synchronicity of a staged false flag terror attack by the sole remaining superpower and the Mayan prophecy of Dec 21, 2012, I think this leads to it being more credible. But thats just my opinion.

They know whats going to happen. :p

p.s. The Gospels were edited years later after they were originally written. I really don't rely on Matthew and Luke, but mostly Thomas, Mark and John.

[Zimzum]

No, wt7 could and looks like a normal control demo. But It was empty and allot easier to wire up the charges since you could just lay it all out on the floors. But why? Only reason I could even see that happening is if maybe there was considerable amounts of damage to its support structure. You see pictures of some holes on the side before collapse. But how do you know the foundation was still intact? Taking down that building could have just been a safety precaution.. who knows

Taken from the NIST (http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm) report.

"The collapse of the WTC towers was not caused either by a conventional building fire or even solely by the concurrent multi-floor fires that day. Instead, NIST concluded that the WTC towers collapsed because: (1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns, dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns, and widely dispersed jet fuel over multiple floors; and (2) the subsequent unusually large, jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires weakened the now susceptible structural steel. No building in the United States has ever been subjected to the massive structural damage and concurrent multi-floor fires that the towers experienced on Sept. 11, 2001. "

"Furthermore, a very large quantity of thermite (a mixture of powdered or granular aluminum metal and powdered iron oxide that burns at extremely high temperatures when ignited) or another incendiary compound would have had to be placed on at least the number of columns damaged by the aircraft impact and weakened by the subsequent fires to bring down a tower. Thermite burns slowly relative to explosive materials and can require several minutes in contact with a massive steel section to heat it to a temperature that would result in substantial weakening. Separate from the WTC towers investigation, NIST researchers estimated that at least 0.13 pounds of thermite would be required to heat each pound of a steel section to approximately 700 degrees Celsius (the temperature at which steel weakens substantially). Therefore, while a thermite reaction can cut through large steel columns, many thousands of pounds of thermite would need to have been placed inconspicuously ahead of time, remotely ignited, and somehow held in direct contact with the surface of hundreds of massive structural components to weaken the building. This makes it an unlikely substance for achieving a controlled demolition."

and..

"When NIST initiated the WTC investigation, it made a decision not to hire new staff to support the investigation. After the June 2004 progress report on the WTC investigation was issued, the NIST investigation team stopped working on WTC 7 and was assigned full-time through the fall of 2005 to complete the investigation of the WTC towers. With the release and dissemination of the report on the WTC towers in October 2005, the investigation of the WTC 7 collapse resumed. Considerable progress has been made since that time, including the review of nearly 80 boxes of new documents related to WTC 7, the development of detailed technical approaches for modeling and analyzing various collapse hypotheses, and the selection of a contractor to assist NIST staff in carrying out the analyses. It is anticipated that a draft report will be released by early 2007."

[Zimzum]

St. Malachy (http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp) Prophecy? 2013 sounds about right with that.. But meh, theres thousands of failed prophecies.

[Great Spirit]

St. Malachy (http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp) Prophecy? 2013 sounds about right with that.. But meh, theres thousands of failed prophecies.Even the worst prophet is right once in awhile.