generators?

[c of green]

ten 600s,BIG ac,4 pumps(probably)4 or 5 circulating fans and 2 big inline fans.
how many watt generator would i need and what is a guess on daily cost if gas is 2.20ish a gallon?
not that i am actually going to do it but it is a fantasy and i am very curious.life is currently at a point where dissapearing for a while is possible(probable) and i own 5 acres in the middle of nowhere

thanks:stoned: :stoned: :stoned:

[stinkyattic]

well 6000w in lights... probably another 1000 or more in ac... fans not much...
Look at a 10,000w generator at least and make sure it can take the amps. Get all those lights on seperate timers so they don't all try and fire up at once. Set them to stagger by like 20 minutes.
Remember that running watts and rated peak watts for those things are totally different.
Noise is an issue.
Exhaust is an issue too.
Hondas are quiet, indestructible, and expensive.
Look in the Northern Tool online catalog... you'll find some interesting stuff.
You have to take care of them just like a car engine.
Diesels are even hardier and have a longer life.
And it's a lot less sketch and safe BTW having heating oil delivered for your diesel than lugging lots of gasoline around all the time.
Is there a house on the property or even a cabin that you could legitimately have fuel delivered to 'for heat'?
What about biodiesel since it's becoming more readily available and also has the benefit of not being an explosion hazard.
I'v thought about this... also wind power... seems like a major pain in the ass if it's not mean to be a permanent setup.

[c of green]

my eventual goal would be to have a completely solar setup.small one room cabin with a very nice sized outbuilding eating up 10000 watts.this would help me purchase that within a few crops.i don't really like the idea of burning gasoline(bad for the enviroment and all)but the ends justify the means.....right....and no there is no cabin...there used to be but my sister burnt it down in a young and drunk episode.there are two campers and a barn.i figure hit 10 gas stations filling up 1 or 2 five gallon containers each whenever it is needed rather than have it delivered(to much work maybe but like i said this is all a dream anyhow.
northern tools is a fun place to dream

[stinkyattic]

Well yeah... ya know, wind power is the way to go. Northern has those 400w windmills all shiny and new... mmmm....
If you have to spend that much time on fueling you might as well go guerilla and spend the time visiting your plants.
Or to add bulk take the CO2 plunge...

[u.g.u]

you have to go diesel gas engines are not designed to run all day. I have seen 25 kw gens starting at $6000 used

[c of green]

well,i sorta let this thred die huh?i have still been looking around and i think that i will cut down a little(6 600s seems more realistic,8000 watt gas generator converted to propane,running twelve hours a day rather than 24 so the 3 400s in veg will run off real electricity)should take about $10000,might be up and running this time next year.or maybe i am still dreaming

[TheGreenFog]

That's a COOL dream, there, c of green. :D

Let us know if you ever manage to concoct some fake pictures of a setup like that. :jointsmile:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[c of green]

will do

[invision]

have you giving the thought if you ever get caught its bye bye for a long time, something to think about before you start loading lights.

[c of green]

i would think that being off the grid would help lessen chances of trouble.that and dealing with trusted PERSON!!(not people!!)already learned that lesson.Not to mention it is all a lie anyway.I may need meds for this compulsion.

[c of green]

will it ever happen????????.............?;)

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

So it sounds like YOU DID IT!!!!

what set up did you come up with?

[klondike_bar]

one year later...what do ya have to show?

id personally do the renewable thing: cheap and good to mother nature

on other hand, vent the generator into the grow-op and theyll have abundant co2

[Opie Yutts]

on other hand, vent the generator into the grow-op and theyll have abundant co2

oooh so dangerous.

However I too have my interest peaked. (poor wording?)

[klondike_bar]

piqued? <---proper spelling for context???? :what:

whts dangerous bout generator exhaust? assuming only a small portion goes to plants, with shutoff near harvest, it may be a good source?...

[Opie Yutts]

Other than the fact that it can kill you quick, before you even know what's happening?

I suppose it would be quite doable, as long as safety is a primary concern and often pondered during planning, construction and operation. I would have a double or triple redundant co2 level cut-off and lots of alarms, especially if it was coming into any part of my house.

[klondike_bar]

well this is an outdoor grow, isnt it? i mean, generators, solar, wind power?

and why are we reviving such an old thread?

[spongebobsmokepants]

Sounds like a pipe dream. You could easily spend $30-$40 a day in fuel to run all that!1/2 that if it's only on 12/12!
Thats over $500 per month on 12/12 or over $1000 per month 24/7??????
Use the sun, it's free!(if you can)

[Opie Yutts]

well this is an outdoor grow, isnt it? i mean, generators, solar, wind power?

and why are we reviving such an old thread?

Well I guess perhaps I didn't read well enough, but I thought we were in indoor growing. And I want this thread revived, damn it!

[klondike_bar]

spongebob is right. a gas, or even diesel generator is totally impractical. however, solar and wind technology may be interesting.

should this topic be moved into a new area for renewable energy maybe?

[Hootie]

how many amps are you drawing? if you know that you can work out the size, 10kw does not sound like enough to run aircons and fans, you may even draw 200-300 amps which may require a 90kw/ 80kva generator... most gene's run on diesel and are not to bad on running costs, unless youre running at critical power

[Hootie]

spongebob is right. a gas, or even diesel generator is totally impractical. however, solar and wind technology may be interesting.

should this topic be moved into a new area for renewable energy maybe?

unfortunately not the amount of power needed for fans and aircons is way to high for wind or solar... the costs of just getting such a solar pannel would be the most unpractical.... this is why the diesel generators are in high demand

[Opie Yutts]

I'm guessing wherever you are off the grid in the states is going to have a lot of sunshine, even in winter. I would be considering shelling out large chunks of cash in the beginning to get self sufficient as far as power is concerned, and probably solar would be the way to go, perhaps with a few windmills if there is enough wind. Geothermal? Water wheels? Is your place off the grid by a river? Solar is only going to continue to come down in price.

[klondike_bar]

wind is best cost effeciency i believe... whyd u want aircon tho? heating in winter, but summer temps wont harm, will they?

and fans should be pretty low powered

[spongebobsmokepants]

You could easily spend $10,000 to $30,000 buying enough equipment to run that size grow. I have spent alot of time pricing wind and solar to see if it is feasible to get my house off the grid. It is hella expensive!

[klondike_bar]

sadly.... its getting there slowly at least...

you can always build a basement fusion reactor tho and power your 'hood :p

[Forwhat420]

diesel generator(s) running hybird fuel hmmmmm.. sounds nice sound though. would be a nice crop though

[Forwhat420]

lol. im high.. the sound would be a problem is what i am saying. solar power is a thought but would be great gamble investment.

[Opie Yutts]

Grow crops that can make biodiesel (corn?), and use it to run your generator. It can have a muffler, but out in the middle of nowhere you wouldn't be disturbing your neighbors either way.

[mikeyjo]

Best, would be having a stream or a river running through the property. A chunk of the water could be diverted to spin a turbine.

[c of green]

gotta go to work but putting the generator in a big hole quiets it pretty good....:stoned::stoned: and solar is expensive.

[klondike_bar]

wait opie... your gonna grow a corn crop, convert it to ethanol, build an ethenol generator, and use it to power a corn AND marijuana grow???

[Opie Yutts]

Sounds good to me, except I would hope my corn crop would be big enough on all this land I have that's off the grid, to just harvest it once per year with my ethanol powered wheat harvester, and have that be enough. Corn outside, MJ inside. For the dreaming part, I'll just ignore the fact that ethanol is not economically viable at this point. It costs more in the long run to use it, than it does to make it. It would not be happening without government subsidies. We all hope of course, that the situation will change soon.

[Forwhat420]

ok really how practical is this in the states?

[klondike_bar]

NOT AT ALL! lol

more practical to build an underground tunnel to jamaiaca for smuggling it seems...

i still say wind power has most promise

[klondike_bar]

ps: i do not condone smuggling

[Opie Yutts]

I think it's very practical. Just get a spot out in the desert somewhere where it's windy and there is a year round creek or river. You got solar, hydroelectric, and wind power, more than enough to power your grow and run your house.

[Forwhat420]

Well if your serious we need to talk lol. everybody always dreamin..but what if??? use your imagination to figure out the rest.

[klondike_bar]

by the way, on a relatively unrelated tangent, there is a new wind generator/turbine out that is equivelant to 1000 of the current models. (it takes up 100 acres tho :p)

[Opie Yutts]

I want this to happen. Somebody make it so, damn it. And carefully document it for us all to learn.