still stuck on these fukin boat leaves!

[Pezzo]

i have done threads b4 about the upside down boat shaped leaves and have had good feedback thatnx guys. but since then its got worse and i wanna get rid of it!

Last time we came to the conclusion of root bound and overwatering, i have repoted and changed my waterin patterns. Im not very good with watering so that could still be a problem but i do have a lot more perlite to counteract it.

Temp of room: 15 Degrees celcius, duno farenheight.

Height of light from top of plants: bout 18 inches (has to shead light on 9 plants so i cant move it closer)

Height of plants: 6 inches

ventilation: good, fan on full but little way from the plants

Light: 200 watt envirolight, no heat

Nutrients; 1/4 stength miracle grow used in most waterings. soil is compst mixed with worm castings and perlite.

pics are of plants and grow room set up. I hope i have given u enough information to help me. Thankyou :D

[Pezzo]

sorry bout the quality, cams arnt very good.

take a look at my soil medium

[MajToker]

Looking at the plants all I can say is start over. First thing I would do is flush the soil with clearex(sp) It will clean the dirt and clean any salt build ups on the roots. Then test the dirt for fertilizer. A cheap kit can be bought at any horticulture store. Look at results and adjust as needed. One thing to consider....set up a hydro unit. Its easy, cheap and can make things like this in the past. I have been doing this for about 35 years and hydro is the best way. Any mistakes in hydro can be fixed within 3 days, soil takes weeks sometimes.

Your light source is too small also. You will need to keep the light close as possible to plants for best result. I could go on but first try Clearex(sp).

[Bree1978]

I don't know if it is the cause of your problem, but your temperture is too low. 18C is 64F. You want to bring up your temp to 23 C. Can you move your envirolite a little closer to get the right temp? Also, I wouldn't fert most waterings...just everyother. How long since you repotted?


You may want to start some more, but I'd try to fix this problem before that way you don't end up making the same mistakes again, imho.

[Pezzo]

u said u can go on, go on then lol im all ears kinda lol. im gunna read up on hydro...

[Pezzo]

Repotted a few days ago and roots are showing at the bottom of the pots again! Think i can flower and get something out of the big one? (white widow) there still growing alright btw just form leaves like that

[Bree1978]

Just a few days after repotting eh? They could still look great very soon. don't worry about the roots coming out the bottom right now. How is your ph? The white widow one looks pretty good barring the funny leaves. I would make it better before flowering though. You have good drainage on that bucket, yes? Don't forget to get that light a little closer and try to bring the temp up a little, it may help.

[Pezzo]

http://www.growroomsuk.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7
ive got that light in a closet where it is warm , u think that would grow my smaller plants? 9800 lumen, 110 watt.

i repoted when 5 plants had this problem, 4 were ok. After repoting they all came out with it so...

[Bree1978]

I have the same amount of lumens (9600lu) (126w) on my vegging plants: see pic (there are two small CFL's can't barely see cause I had to move for pic) I think it works fine. You say your temp is 18C, this is too low.

[Pezzo]

temp is 15 and i cant raise it, no heat from light. no how i can raise it?

flowering room is warmer. closet is warmer. ill move em in if i can get the light to work, thanx for your help Maj, Bree

[Weedhound]

I find it hard to believe a temp drop to 64 degrees would do THAT! My room gets down to 68 or so once in awhile and THAT has never occurred. They look like they are waiting for noahs ark to come by so that can canoe off. It has to be something to do with your nutes.....lighting sounds good, so does your soil although soil is not my strong point by any means. I really like the idea of flushing the crap out of it and using something different.

[Bree1978]

Pezzo is constantly keeping the temps at 59F, 15C...That is too low...but I said I wasn't sure if that was the problem....what is the ph like? :)

[Weedhound]

Oops, sorry Bree I must have misread....I thought it was 64 degrees. Sixty degrees....don't know never really had mine at that temp. That seems low to me too...

[Pezzo]

ph umm, got 3 device to measure that and none of em work so i dont know, i figered id risk that one and work on everythin else who knows is would hit me - the only thing i havent checked!

[faithless]

Looks like a potassium/phosphorous/PH problem.