Hunting

[higher4hockey]

Any one else in here a hunter? theres nothing i like better than grabbing the gun and heading for the hills. I didnt have much luck this buck season, i saw deer every day, but none that i wanted to shoot.

btw i smoked for the first time yesterday since february '06

[Cyclonite]

I do and the flyers rock.

[friendowl]

personally i have no respect for people who kill animals for sport
say what you want and think what you want but hunters are pussies
i love to hear stories about hunters getting shot or mauled

[orangeman]

I never did like hunting. I think it's wrong because you are killing an animal for fun basically. Do you guys even eat the animals you catch? I mean I just don't see me being able to feel right..going into the forest and killing an animal just to "hunt". There is even a person at a church, a person that sits in the pulpit that "hunts" I really don't consider that a real Christan when you fucking hunt.

[The Big Easy]

I'm not personally a hunter but I believe its a respectable thing if its done right. I hate trophy hunting, but if they harvest the meat and respect the animal than its fine. Ive studied ecology some and it is actually important to control wildlife populations. Huntings the best way to do it.

[friendowl]

what about human population control
life is life
would it be ok to hunt caucasians or armenians
or even mexicans and blacks
whats the difference

[40oz]

what about human population control
life is life
would it be ok to hunt caucasians or armenians
or even mexicans and blacks
whats the difference

I think the difference is that people are people and animals are animals. this can be tricky though because all people are animals but not all animals are people.

I'm not a big fan of hunting either but just becuase i think its stupid i won't say it is.

[bavet]

I never did like hunting. I think it's wrong because you are killing an animal for fun basically. Do you guys even eat the animals you catch? I mean I just don't see me being able to feel right..going into the forest and killing an animal just to "hunt". There is even a person at a church, a person that sits in the pulpit that "hunts" I really don't consider that a real Christan when you fucking hunt.

I'm sorry but that has to be the most stupid thing I ever seen you type here.

It's unchristian to hunt?? yeah ok whatever!

And no, No one I ever knew hunted for fun and sport, You must first kill animals before you eat them.

Get your head out of your ass and stay in the getto so you don't nmake a fool of yourself in the country.

[higher4hockey]

friendowl~ hunters are pussies.......care to give your reasoning for that one ?


orangeman~ yes we eat the animals we kill. i know quite a few people from where i live that feed their families by hunting. think about it. you can go down to the grocery store and buy and animal that has been born and raised to be slaughtered, or you can go out in the woods and give the animal a fair chance to get away. don't knock what you don't understand mate!

[RedLocks]

I hunt hippies, drop the bastages off in the projects and give em a 5 minute head start.. starting to get bored of it though cause i keep finding them at the next corner talking to the guy selling mesc.. no sport in it what soever

[S.P.Q.R.]

Yeah I enjoy hunting. Hey Higher4Hockey, isn't it funny how at any mention of hunting people have to be assholes about it? I don't just mean here, but everywhere..

I mean... Different people do different things, no reason to be an ass because we like to hunt for food and you don't.

But yes, there's nothing better than grabbing that bow/rifle and going into the forest.

[ericwt]

I don't hunt. But my cat does.:D

[wayoftheleaf]

Deer jerky is the best food ever.

I love deer jerky that was made with hobanero peppers.

[higher4hockey]

spqr ~ in my area man i dont encounter too much of the 'you hunt, you're a horrible person attitude'. hunting where im from is a way of life, but yes i do know what you mean, a lot of people go into scary asshole mode at the mention of hunting. im heading back out tommorow morning for small game (mainly grouse and squirrels) cant wait! one of these years i'll get into bow hunting, thats where the big bucks are i hear.

[higher4hockey]

deer jerky defenitely rocks the casbah!

im off after squirrels, grouse, pheasants, and rabbits! wish me luck!

[hello3pat]

I've tried hunting, but I was never patient enough to realy like it, although I do love just going out and shooting. The bad thing about hunting is in the past people had over hunted many of the natural predators of some game animals and their populations still haven't recovered in many areas. So, without natural predators some game animals, mainly deer, being and exponintional population explosion, killing the ecosystem, so if we stopped hunting we would would fuck up the ecosystem more than we already have. A plus side is you always get the stupid hunters that get fucked over, I remeber hearing about one hunter who was attacked while taking a shit by a deer brunk fro eating fermenting berries off the ground.

what about human population control
life is life
would it be ok to hunt caucasians or armenians
or even mexicans and blacks
whats the difference
"Some people are only alive because it's illegal to kill them" and also the difference is we are trying to help right something we fucked up and venison is pretty good

[LIP]

I've been hunting with my uncle, when i was a kid. I killed a few rabbits... but meh, wasnt my kind of thing... im more into human hunting rofl.

[FLORIDA MON]

I don't hunt but have nothing against it.
In fact, hunting is quite necessary, in some areas, since deer have been left without any natural predators (since we've killed all the wolves) and over run the area.

Hence, they wander out onto the roads and cause lots of deadly accidents every year.

Also, hunters are often strong enviromentalists and understand the consequences of upsetting the delicate ecosystem.

Game Wardens are the referees.

[benagain]

I've been hunting a few times, but not for a few years now. I loves it when I get to do it. Getting up early/ walking through the woods with that earliy morning mist all around you. Finally getting a target in your scope, killing it, finding it, gutting it. It's all good to me.
Where I'm from, you're not a man if you've never killed your own game, gutted it, and prepped it for eating.
I say take all of the hippies who don't eat KFC for whatever hippie reason, go out, stick them on an island with nothing but some chickens and a cow and let them live there for two months while they try and prep thier own food. They'll thank every god they know for the modern butcher and the food process we have.
My opinion, Hunting = Awesome.

[friendowl]

im only speakingfrom what i have seen and did
i have met two hunters only in my life and they both
seemed weird.they took to much pleasure in the "kill"

if i lived in a country enviorment i would think different
here in la mountains theres no need to hunt

[benagain]

Well there are just some asshole hunters out there. Makes everyone look bad. Some people just kill shit to shoot something. That's why they make watermelons. take one to the range and go nuts.
Some folk are just carrying on a cultural ritual. Back home, its real common to go hunting after thanksgiving, stock up the freezer and eat on it for the rest of the season.
For me it's a bit of both. I love shooting things and for some reason killing animals (dont know why but I do). But I also love to feed my family and friends well fed so I get a lot out of it.

[stinkyattic]

Mmmmm!!! Venison (I like Elk best, but deer is delicious)

My dear friend from Vermont is coming down with a cooler of venison for me this weekend I think...

He grows all the vegetables he eats organically, raises chickens for eggs and meat, raises hogs on whatever veggies don't pass the human food test, and only drinks raw milk straight from the cow's tit... well he puts it in the fridge first, lol...

but he also hunts turkey, deer, and rabbit for food, and manages the land he owns as a wildlife area with natural food that his quarry likes.

He saves the parts of the animals that people don't eat as dog feed for his pack of hounds.

This guy is VERY well educated and suffered from some pretty nasty and still not well explained medical problems that went away just weeks after switching to this ridiculously natural diet.

Healthiest person I've ever met, and honestly one of the most in touch with Nature.

Now, contrast him to my friend's lame husband who sells office furniture and has literally a basement den FULL of trophies... including pelts of animals that aren't typically food game...

I don't respect that sort of hunting at all.

I know this is a really touchy subject for some people but that's how I feel. When and if I ever move to a more rural area I'm pretty sure I'll take up rabbit and turkey hunting.

[Skink]

Venison sucks,,,give me beef...

[stinkyattic]

hunting is quite necessary, in some areas, since deer have been left without any natural predators (since we've killed all the wolves) and over run the area. True! With deer populations too high, all forest undergrowth is devoured and there is no natural buffer to keep sucking up excess nutrient runoff like a big sponge... controlled deer hunts are a necessity near me at the Quabbin reservoir, which supplies drinking water to Boston and the outlying areas....keeping the deer populations down allows for a healthy forest. And also without low shrubbery, other forest creatures have no cover or nesting areas and they become vulnerable to freezing and predation...guess what I studied in college, lol...

Also, hunters are often strong enviromentalists and understand the consequences of upsetting the delicate ecosystem.
Good hunters must understand their environment to be successful.

[higher4hockey]

Florida mon ~ well put, there are a LOT of hunters around here that do wonders for the enviroment.

Friend owl ~ there are assholes in everything, there are even asshole weed smokers, who give the rest of us a bad name. dont judge every hunter, just like you dont want people judging us all because of stupid stoners, by what a few assholes do.



I went out this morning and killed four squirrels, i got two on monday so i'll be firing up the crockpot from some outstanding squirrely stew tommorow !

[surreys princess]

oh yeah...and i was going to say..hockey is awesome...go cannuks and bertuzzi sucks :D

[dark0ne]

i go evry once and a while to vermont dear hunting. The last time i got this beautifull buck with a compound bow. I have a hunting rifle but that year my uncle let me shoot his hunting bow.......very very cool. no loud bang, quiet stalking of the pray, and a silent kill.

[bucknuts1870]

If you lived anywhere near the mid-west you would understand deer hunting is a NECESSITY. There are almost a million deer just in the state of Ohio. They cause hundreds of accidents EVERY DAY just in Ohio. I almost hit one on a weekly basis. Not to mention a deer herd can destroy an entire farm crop for the year in effect bankrupting someone. They are actually increasing the number of deer to be taken each year because it is so bad here in Ohio.

That being sad I hate deer hunting, putting urine all over your clothes, sitting in a tree stand not moving talking, just doesn't apeal to me. I like wing shooting as long as someone else is cleaning the bird, that is about as far as my hunting prowess goes.

I would much rather go down to southern ohio to my dad's buddys "farm" and shoot ak's and sk's and basically every cool gun you can think of(he has a class 3 weapons permit), ride dirt bikes, and drink and blaze. My dad's friend is like hunter s. thompson except instead of a writer he is a nurse at children's hosp.

My friend Ryan and I still go up to this public shooting range about a half hour north of me and do some skeet shooting about once a week. Sometimes my other buddy comes and brings his h&k .40, and his .300 h&k which are very fun to shoot.

I'd much rather just bust off rounds and shoot at old phone books and clay pigeons than animals, but I don't have a problem with it. I am an avid fisherman and keep fish that are good to eat all the time, especially when I lived in Florida, I was eating fish couple-three times a week.

hunters = pussies? You my friend are what we call an asshole, and If I wanted to hear one i'd fart. You should be able to buy human permits cause there are a lot of stupid people that need to be "trimmed" from the herd....

[stinkyattic]

i go evry once and a while to vermont dear hunting.
.
Where in VT do you go? I used to work for fish and game there up in the Northeast Kingdom

BTW I have the utmost respect for responsible bowhunters.. it takes such incredible skill to make a clean kill.

[orangeman]

I'm sorry but that has to be the most stupid thing I ever seen you type here.

It's unchristian to hunt?? yeah ok whatever!

And no, No one I ever knew hunted for fun and sport, You must first kill animals before you eat them.

Get your head out of your ass and stay in the getto so you don't nmake a fool of yourself in the country.

Dude just shut the fuck up. I didn't direct my rant at you so don't fuckin talk about me for having my own opinion. Now get your head out of your ass and stop making a fool out of your self by picking fights on the internet.

[Cyclonite]

personally i have no respect for people who kill animals for sport
say what you want and think what you want but hunters are pussies
i love to hear stories about hunters getting shot or mauled


Wow, you are so smug. I guess paying large corporations to do it for you on a much larger scale and more inhumane is better....no dirt on your hands that way. I won't be childish and say I don't respect you due to your position. Even if your a vegan ill respect your unnatural diet of malnutrition.

[benagain]

Wow, you are so smug. I guess paying large corporations to do it for you on a much larger scale and more inhumane is better....no dirt on your hands that way. I won't be childish and say I don't respect you due to your position. Even if your a vegan ill respect your unnatural diet of malnutrition.

Actually if you would have read his thread, he said nothing about being a vegan or hating hunters that gather food. I also have issues with poachers and those who kill with no organized purpose. I think every sensable person would feel the same way.

[friendowl]

dont get your panties in a bunch
it would be ridiculous if hunted my own food
if i was on my own in the wild of course
but cmon dork you dont need food that bad do you

i can understand the whole 'spiritual " side of the hunt
but i doubt you respcet mother earth like you claim too

[Cyclonite]

Why would he he have something against hunters that specifically gather berries as well?

If doesn't mean he is it means if.

"they took to much pleasure in the "kill""

I get something of an adrenaline rush, I'm sure that's pretty common. Not pleasure though.

The word I believe he should use is poacher not hunter, sport wasn't mentioned in the 2nd and 3rd lines.

Why does only hunting out of necessity mean anything, it doesn't matter if you need to or like to. As long as you just don't kill and not use its fine with me.

[higher4hockey]

friendowl~ let me ask you this, what exactly do you have against hunting?

[partyguy420]

I never did like hunting. I think it's wrong because you are killing an animal for fun basically. Do you guys even eat the animals you catch? I mean I just don't see me being able to feel right..going into the forest and killing an animal just to "hunt". There is even a person at a church, a person that sits in the pulpit that "hunts" I really don't consider that a real Christan when you fucking hunt.

not a real Christan??? for fucking hunting a animal? think about this, O.K.??? why did god give us teeth to eat meat? why did he give us a stomach that allows us to digest meat? why is it that meat is not posin to our bodies?? why did god, put animals on the earth in the first place? why did he give us the power to kill them?

your stament is total BULL SHIT....

anyways... i havent been out hunting yet... im Native American, and my tribal traditions are you go out hunting for you first large game animal when you are 14, and the other tribe i belong to, its 16...so... hopefully this year i will attleast get to go out for the late deer season... but since my dad dosent really want anything to do with me, he wont take me out... and my uncles are all working... if i dont get to go out hunting this year, im going to be really bummed out...

In our traditon, you dont go out hunting for the biggest deer/elk you can find, you go out for the animal that will feed your family until the next time its needed... so since its just me and my mom (and my brothers and sisters occasionaly) we wont need a big deer this year... and you use every part of the animal possible... bones... hearts, livers... and anything else...

now... i completly dis agree with trophy hunting... thats a whole different story... if i hear some one crying around, because they didnt see a big enuf deer, so they didnt shoot anything, i get pissed off...

and another thing that i disagree with is when people sit in tree stands all day long with a 30-06 with a scope that can see the color of a cats eye, 12345678900987654321 yards away... its just a load of shit... i mean, sure, i dont plan on going out my first year, and using a bow to shoot a deer... i plan on using a rifle... most likely, ill use my grandpas .270 winchester (the last time i heard, the smallest rifle you can use for big game) and im sure as hell aint putting a scope on the damn thing, i grew up around hunters, and gun lovers... i was taught how to shoot a gun by my dad who was a fire arm instructer for the United States Marine Corps.... meaning he could shoot better then most people you will ever meet... and he taught other people how to shoot that good... and he taught me how to... and i know i can shoot as far as my eye can see... and be within centimeters of what i was aiming for..

anyways... im glad to see that there are other hunters around, who actually hunt for dinner and not just for the fuck of it... for our family... its a way of life.. not just a game...

[friendowl]

let look at this from a deer spoint of view
lets just say cyclonite was chillin with his deer friends
just eating grass and having deer sex
not bugging no one and enjoying life
then comes mr hungry adrenaline junky
with his dorky orange hat and vest
and small penis and big gun
instead of admiring the anomals in theor habitat
or going to the market and buying meat he just
slaughters a life for his own insignificant reasons

if you live near a store you have no phyical need to hunt
your need is based on your feelings of pleasure that you obtain
thru the taking of a life ..any life

[higher4hockey]

i hvae no physical need to hunt, true. but to me i'd rather go shoot it, gut it, butcher it, and cook it myself instead of paying someone else to do something i am perfectly capable of.

now lets take the story of cyclonite when its not hunting season. he's chillin with his deer friends having deer sex eating grass not buggin no one, then along comes mr. bear, or mr. coyote, or mr bobcat to run him down and start eating him while he's still alive!! at least i shoot and kill ol cyclonite before i eat him.

and my vest and hat are cool!!

[partyguy420]

friendowl~ let me ask you this, what exactly do you have against hunting?

maybe people who are against hunting... are just to pussy to go out into the woods... shoot an animal... gut it... and eat it... its takes a real man/woman to be able to shoot your own food...

and what my GF just said... if you cant shoot a deer you cant drink a beer....

or my modified version... if you cant shoot a bear, you cant drink a beer...

or if you cant shoot a deer, you must be a queer...(my girl friend again)

all i have to say, is i give you props, and any other hunter who can successfully hunt their own animal, clean it, pack it on their shoulders back to the truck, skin it, and eat it...(or for the older guys or little tykes... have your son, or dad pack it out)

and i guarantee that all true hunters, go to heaven, and see all the animals they ever shot, and their favorite rifle... and a replica of their favorite hunting grounds, and get to go out hunting for the past animals they have killed...

now the bad hunters... they go to hell... and the animals get to hunt the guy who shot them...

and when the last of the hunters die off... and the world is full of animals, fucking like rabbits... we will all sit in our favorite hunting grounds in heavan and laff our asses off because the deers rabbits squirels and all the other animals who everyone thinks is nice, and shouldnt be hunted... are killing humans... eating all of the under growth forest, and they are having mud slides, the waters are polutied with fucked up minerals that arent healthy for the human body in large amounts... we will just spark up a Jay, throw back our favorite drink, and laff...

and think about this... deer injoy the taste of marijuana plants... so... to any out door growers, think about this, you have a few acres of plants growing, a few days befor you go out to harvest your plants... you out to check on them, and you see a shit load of deer tracks all around the area were your plants are... and you get to your plants... and 90% of them are gone, and whats left of them, are un harvistable because they have been tromped all over... broken down,,, stomped on, shit on, pissed on and slept on by deer, all because you disagree with hunting...

[partyguy420]

i hvae no physical need to hunt, true. but to me i'd rather go shoot it, gut it, butcher it, and cook it myself instead of paying someone else to do something i am perfectly capable of.

now lets take the story of cyclonite when its not hunting season. he's chillin with his deer friends having deer sex eating grass not buggin no one, then along comes mr. bear, or mr. coyote, or mr bobcat to run him down and start eating him while he's still alive!! at least i shoot and kill ol cyclonite before i eat him.

and my vest and hat are cool!!

also, another thing i thought up... cows, pigs, lambs... and any other thing that comes from old farmer john, is raised unnaturaly and most likely full of hormones...

and why dont you go ask a hunters wife or girl friend weather or not they have a little dick... i can garuntie you, my girl isnt going to say i have a small dick...

[orangeman]

Ok I'm gonna put this simple. Stop attacking me for my opinion. If you don't like my opinion, then fuck you. Plain and simple. To the next person that flames me, just read this so I can save my time from replying to your dumb ass post.

[partyguy420]

dude, wtf, does that have to do with anything?, i suppose your just saying that to make your self feel like the bigger man cus your insecure about your
jiminy cricket size dick. man this is a hunting thread, nothing to do with cock n balls, if you want to talk about that shit go in the sexuality forums


peace out

dude... if you read one of orange mans posts, he said "small dicks with big guns" or some bull shit along those lines...

[Cheery Cherry]

Ahhh, see, this is why there are animal psychologists!

[DenzComp]

Cherry...I saw your post in the NY section...do you have an AIM SN?

[Cheery Cherry]

I do! CheerryCherry.

[DenzComp]

Are you on?

[LIP]

This threads started to confuse me. And now im hungry.

[Cyclonite]

let look at this from a deer spoint of view
lets just say cyclonite was chillin with his deer friends
just eating grass and having deer sex
not bugging no one and enjoying life
then comes mr hungry adrenaline junky
with his dorky orange hat and vest
and small penis and big gun
instead of admiring the anomals in theor habitat
or going to the market and buying meat he just
slaughters a life for his own insignificant reasons

if you live near a store you have no phyical need to hunt
your need is based on your feelings of pleasure that you obtain
thru the taking of a life ..any life


So its ok to pay someone to slaughter a cow that's whole purpose since birth was to be killed and eaten but not ok to do it yourself for good meat (If you really want to call eating insignificant). Even with a rifle deer hunting can be very challenging and you earn respect for the animal...fact is I'm higher on the food chain and that's that. Id rather eat fresh meat with no preservatives. Hunting is also exciting and you do get a rush when you get a kill....just like people have for many many years. There is no need to be childish...I thought this was a discussion not a little kids name calling game. State your opinions and facts to back them up. Don't revert to a 12 year old.

[higher4hockey]

cyclonite~ anyways, back to hunting. tell me about your hunting experiences, ie where do you go, what for, what do you use? tell me a hunting story.

[bucknuts1870]

Remington 870 28" barrel full choke. I can hit a bird at 50 yards with that mother.

Ohio cornfields, pheasant. That is basically the only thing I have ever hunted for. Oh and rabbit once.

[LIP]

That's what my uncle hunts for, pheasants.

[NextLineIsMine]

If you eat meat I personally think you should be capable of killing an animal with your own hands.

[Skink]

I know a vegetarian that would love to eat Bacon or a nice Pork Butt,,,but she grew up on a farm and cant get the image of her father killing her pet Duck out of her head... She eats hotdogs without the dog she want meat so bad...

[stinkyattic]

If you eat meat I personally think you should be capable of killing an animal with your own hands.
Yeah I have to agree with you.

Can you kill a clam?
Can you kill a fish?
Can you kill a chicken?
Can you kill a steer?
Can you kill a cute little calf?

Think about it.... where in the line do you say, no, I can't kill that creature. Therefore I won't eat it.

Personally I eat meat and I can kill it myself. I enjoy fishing- I am generally a catch-and-release type person but I feel more secure knowing that I have the skill to catch my own meat. And if I hook a fish 'dirty' it's coming home for dinner. I bet you have NO idea how bad white sucker tastes. But, I hooked one through the gills and that was that.

I have a major issue with livestock farming for ecological reasons as well as because of the treatment of the cattle, the endless antibiotic injections just to keep them alive in such a crowded and filthy environment, and the simple fact that the amount of land that it takes to grow the feed to make a pound of beef flesh would be better used to grow simple food crops for humans... even protein crops like soybeans!

Therefore I also choose to consume very little beef.

I don't believe that hunting solely for the thrill of it, or the sport of it, makes sense morally; I do however understand the SATISFACTION of the kill- that you have brought down a wily critter that you are now going to feast on for weeks.

Beyond the whole hunting right or wrong argument... I think we as a culture are getting spoiled into the feeling that eating meat at every meal is normal; indeed, our right as the top of the food chain. But the meat we eat is less and less healthy with modern farming methods and when you look at cultures for whom meat is a luxury item to be used more as an ingredient rather than the main course, and other protein sources like cheese, soy, dairy, nuts, and other legumes are the norm- look at the health problems or lack thereof in those cultures. I'm thinking of Indian food especially... IMO the world's most spectacular cuisine for variety and complexity... and look how much of it is vegetarian, and how healthy the Indians are!

I guess this is sort of off the hunting subject but it relates to how I feel about hunting. I believe that you should be close to your food source. It's hard to tell that to someone who was raised in an urban area- Orangeman, I have respect for you and I'm not going to flame you for the hunting thing because honestly it's hard to form an unbiased opinion about something that you aren't around all the time.

To me this argument is more about where we get our food than how we get it.

Okay, now flame away :D

[Perp]

Hunting is a natural human activity, has been for tens of thousands of years. Nothing wrong with it. Only the tools we use have changed.

[Cooler Then Jesus]

i hunt small game with my ruger .22 (10/22 rifle)
the only thing ive ever killed with a gun would be Turkeys(every thanksgiving), rabbits (yes ive eaten rabbit in stew), and one time i killed a chicken that was running wild in our suburban neighborhood messing with cats and what not, so i shot him once while he was sitting on my fence post, and we cooked him too! hardest parts was sneaking into my neighbors yard and retreiving the bird, since he fell from the fence.

everything ive ever shot me and my family has eaten, except for when i was younger and killed a raccoon. but for a good reason, 1. when i killed him, he was fleeing from my large garbage can witch he and his freinds had just knocked over, garbage everywhere. 2. he killed on of my neighbors rabbits newborn babies, and 3. he fights with my cat, and other stray cats as well.

but one thing that i do think is stupid, is my neighbors 12 year old son shooting birds and squirrlles with his bb gun and his .22 BAR. because he doesnt eat them, they just sit and rot, that is wrong.

[partyguy420]

yea... i think hunting is fine... is basicaly all i have to say... as long as its for food... and i had my mom read over the replys i posted... and she said that i had made a very good point... so i feel proud of my self...

[partyguy420]

i hunt small game with my ruger .22 (10/22 rifle)
the only thing ive ever killed with a gun would be Turkeys(every thanksgiving), rabbits (yes ive eaten rabbit in stew), and one time i killed a chicken that was running wild in our suburban neighborhood messing with cats and what not, so i shot him once while he was sitting on my fence post, and we cooked him too! hardest parts was sneaking into my neighbors yard and retreiving the bird, since he fell from the fence.

everything ive ever shot me and my family has eaten, except for when i was younger and killed a raccoon. but for a good reason, 1. when i killed him, he was fleeing from my large garbage can witch he and his freinds had just knocked over, garbage everywhere. 2. he killed on of my neighbors rabbits newborn babies, and 3. he fights with my cat, and other stray cats as well.

but one thing that i do think is stupid, is my neighbors 12 year old son shooting birds and squirrlles with his bb gun and his .22 BAR. because he doesnt eat them, they just sit and rot, that is wrong.

the coon is understandable... the neabhors kid killing random birds and squirlles and leaving them to rot... is fucked up... i mean, you can eat a fucking squirrle... i dont know what kind of birds he is shooting... so i dont know if you can eat them...

[Professor Dan K.]

i hunt pop cans and watermellons lol... and the occaisonal frisbees

[higher4hockey]

i used to seriously fuck up some pop cans back in the day when all i was packin was a daisy bb gun. my dad wouldnt let me shoot birds and such, i would shoot pidgeons out of the barn though, they would shit all over the hay.


'if it flies it dies, if its brown its down!'

[Reefer Rogue]

I don't think hunting is necessary.

[Cyclonite]

cyclonite~ anyways, back to hunting. tell me about your hunting experiences, ie where do you go, what for, what do you use? tell me a hunting story.

I was in GA not too long ago deer hunting, I guess there was a drought so the deer were not in their normal pattern. After having no luck for a few days in a blind which was boring anyways I went tracking. So I see tons of track about 10am and I lie down on the forest floor on my back with my rifle on my chest. I hear dry leaves cracking and slowly look over to my left. There was a doe about 10ft from me....my heart starts to pump harder. My rifle was pointing right since I shoot left. The doe looked right at me and kept on walking...so as soon as her head went behind a tree I take my rifle off safe, well she heard that and perked up and when I swung my rifle around she was running like no tomorrow. I took a couple shots but it was so close and fast I didn't have time to aim. Anyways the doe got away that day but she almost stepped on me. Its a decent story. Oh and I had a .243 that day.

[JunkYard]

I like to hunt...hunting's good, so is food. I might even cook a couple deer roasts for Christmas dinner, lol!

Remington .270 semi auto (perfection)

I didn't hunt this year; I was given two back strips and two hind quarters, and didn't have room in freezer for more. BUT, next year Bambi better watch his A.S.S. :D ;)

[higher4hockey]

well, fellas, i am severly intoxicated. i want to share with ya'll my feelings on this evening because despite our differences i feel that we all share........something..............my feelings on this evening : girls are HORSESHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(junkyard~ 30-06 is the way to go~)

[Cyclonite]

I like 7mm better than 30-06, the .243 is nice because the kick is pretty small and accuracy is good.

[partyguy420]

30-06 is a gun i will not use one a deer... maybe and elk, i would use it... but a moose i would use a 30-06.... see i want to use the smallest fire arm(modern) to take out the animal i want to take out and let it be human, fair chace and legal...

the only 7mm i have ever shot, i will never shoot agin, because, my grandpa said i could have it for my first hunting trip, so that alone would make me be sad even after i had a deer in the back of the pick up, but, my uncle stole it, so ill most likely never see it agin... and at one point and time, i had to put down my white golden labadore, chaos, and my uncle said he would shoot him for me, but i wanted to go up there to know were chaos was going to be at while he slept... and my uncle, apperently dosent know how to kill... cause he shot once and all i heard while the dumb ass reloaded was whimpering and welping, and then the click of the bolt sliding back into place, and then the click of the trigure fallowed very fastly by the sound of the explosin the gun powder makes. falowed by the cuss words what the fuck... falowed by my dog whimpering some more, at that point i couldnt here the dumb ass try to kill my dog agin, i walked up to him grabed the rifle, put 3 or 4 shells in it, walked over to my dog, petted him a few times, and put the rifle to his heart, pulled the trigure, i didnt hear the bang of even the little clicking noise that a gun makes when its dry fired or when its bullet is a dud, so i opean the bolt, the shell pops out, i and i close the bolt, pull the trigure, same thing happens agin, and once more agin, until i have no more bullets in the rifle, and then i relise that thers a pile of empty 7mm rifle shells laying around my feat, and that my dog no longer even twithches, and i relised that while i was killing my dog, after hearing my uncle try to shoot, i had just tuned the whole world out, becase i couldnt stand to hear chaos, or anyother animal in pain from a person who dosent know the kill shoots...

there are 3 bad memories for me on the hands of the 7mm that was sapost to be mine..

[partyguy420]

hey you guys, rember its all personal oppinions on what guns to use to hunt....i know some people that will use a .22 to unt deer, and will take it out in basicaly the same way as some one who uses a bow.... then there are the ones that use a 30-06, that have to pack around the guns that seam to weigh in at about 50 pounds.... must be preaty stong guys, but, i like the part in hunting were the games you play are fair, and still human, like between a .243 and .270(maybe just for fucks sake a 30-30 cause in the older days, thats what they used) for deer, for elk and moose and bear, something bigger, like a .300, or a 30-06 for small game, ill take my pellet gun that uses the 12 grams co2 tanks.. or a .22

[Cooler Then Jesus]

c02 is too unpredictable, i used to have a HPA .22 air rifle, it was nice, but i eventually but a ruger 10/22 with REAL .22 bullets.

[partyguy420]

c02 is too unpredictable, i used to have a HPA .22 air rifle, it was nice, but i eventually but a ruger 10/22 with REAL .22 bullets.

mehh... like i said, its all personal oppinions on what guns to use... i mean, i can get my hands on any gun ill ever need want or see...(my uncle runs a pawn shop and has a licence to sell automatic rifle and hand guns) and has a few sitting in the back rooom because he cant find anyone with permit to buy them....

but you can take out more squirles with a co2 pellet gun cause the other squirels cant hear it... but a squirrlle is about all the pellet gun gets used for i tired shooting a rabbit with one, and i had a hell of a time trying to pick up the .22 hand gun out of my belt to actualy kill it.. cause the pellet gun just made it blead and run... but i got lucky, and pulled the hand gun out just barely in time to take a shot and made it....

[higher4hockey]

cooler than jesus~ is it legal to hunt with semi-autos where you're from. here in pa, you can use a semi-auto shotgun, but not a rifle.

the guns i use are ~ for deer a 30.-.06, i like the 30-06 because its such a versatile gun. my uncle uses a .270 and we argue about it every year. i like the knock down power of a 30-06. the last deer i shot was about 250 yards away, hit him in the heart, he took one step and fell over dead.

for small game i like a 20 gauge better than a twelve, i use three inch nitro mags for birds, and 2 3/4 inch for squirrels. i like the twenty because it doesnt do as much damage to a critter as a 12

and i use on occasion a remington fieldmaster .22 for squirrels, which makes it a lot more challenging. i dont take it out very often though, it seems every time i go out for squirrels with a .22 i run into grouse.


by the way ~ alcohol is wicked dangerous.

[baisez le monde.]

Yeah I have to agree with you.

Can you kill a clam?
Can you kill a fish?
Can you kill a chicken?
Can you kill a steer?
Can you kill a cute little calf?

Think about it.... where in the line do you say, no, I can't kill that creature. Therefore I won't eat it.



That makes so much sense! Haha you took what I was thinking and worded it perfectly. I only eat fish and sometimes chicken for that reason, I couldn't possibly bring myself to kill a cow. But I really don't see why people have to argue so much about hunting. It's a much more humane way of dying thatn the way animals are killed commercially. We should all hunt whatever animals we want to eat so the poor little things wouldn't have to be murdered so brutally.

[LIP]

I think all hunters should be able to kill they're target in one shot, without causing pain.

Im an RAF marksman [from when i was in the air cadets, on a L98 A1 assault rifle]

[twist n shout]

Here in Idaho where I live, hunting is almost like a religion, if not a necessity.I am more of an occasional hunter. I like fishn a whole lot better though.

[partyguy420]

yep in idaho, hunting is a religon, just like in the town i grew up in(darrington wa) just about every one hunts

[slipknotpsycho]

somehow i knew this thread was gonna fling a bunch of shit directly into the fan... :rolleyes: if you're hunting just to shoot something, or to put it's head up on a wall, or to take a pic by the dead animal, it's barbaric to say the least, killing for fun, just to me doesn't seem right.

however, if you're actually using what you kill, to the best of your ability (by that i mean not shooting a buck down just to say get some deer ribs or some shit...) then it's ok by me... people have done it for thousands and thousands of years, i really don't think we were meant to scavenge dead animals for meat, or stand by waiting for it to fall over on it's own...

[higher4hockey]

slipknotpsycho ~ i hunt for both of those reasons....i love the meat, but then again, if i shoot a ten point buck, you can bet his ass is going on the wall!


partyguy420 ~ the first day of buck season is bigger than christmas. i shit you not, buck season brings in so much more money to this area than christmas ever could hope to! the guy that owns the local sporting goods store told me once that he makes more money in the saturday and sunday before opening monday than he does all year combined.

[partyguy420]

slipknotpsycho ~ i hunt for both of those reasons....i love the meat, but then again, if i shoot a ten point buck, you can bet his ass is going on the wall!


partyguy420 ~ the first day of buck season is bigger than christmas. i shit you not, buck season brings in so much more money to this area than christmas ever could hope to! the guy that owns the local sporting goods store told me once that he makes more money in the saturday and sunday before opening monday than he does all year combined.

yea... thats preaty much the same here... i think to day im gonna go to the sauk river trading post(our sporting good store) and ask him if those satistics are true for his store...

and there are much better things to be done with the antlers of a deer, then to hang them on the wall... like use them to make a knife handle....but im preaty sure if i shoot a 10pt i would hang him on the wall my-self...

[slipknotpsycho]

slipknotpsycho ~ i hunt for both of those reasons....i love the meat, but then again, if i shoot a ten point buck, you can bet his ass is going on the wall!


partyguy420 ~ the first day of buck season is bigger than christmas. i shit you not, buck season brings in so much more money to this area than christmas ever could hope to! the guy that owns the local sporting goods store told me once that he makes more money in the saturday and sunday before opening monday than he does all year combined.

yeah, but see you're eating the meat as well, i was just referring to those that have no intention of even eating the animal and are just killing it to make it a trophy.

[bavet]

Dude just shut the fuck up. I didn't direct my rant at you so don't fuckin talk about me for having my own opinion. Now get your head out of your ass and stop making a fool out of your self by picking fights on the internet.

Good thing you don't hunt, deer are also brown, you may be "mistaken" as one.
If you don't like hunting then don't do it. Who the hell made you God to judge others?

[slipknotpsycho]

Good thing you don't hunt, deer are also brown, you may be "mistaken" as one.
If you don't like hunting then don't do it. Who the hell made you God to judge others?

wow dude, did you have to take a simple fucking thread such as one based on hunting and turn it into a racial contest? seriously.... shit, it's probably dickheads like you that made ME get fucked with in school.... racists are pigs.

[bavet]

I'm not a racist. Couldn't care what race he is. If he was white I'd change it to polar bear hunting hehehe If you knew the shit those anti hunting pricks can do, you'd understand why some idiots anti hunting remarks hit a nerve in me, then to add to it, He has to go say some bull shit about how it's not following Christ if You hunt. Whatever, I'll never apploligize. If I was sorry I wouldn't have said it in the first place.

[slipknotpsycho]

I'm not a racist. Couldn't care what race he is. If he was white I'd change it to polar bear hunting hehehe If you knew the shit those anti hunting pricks can do, you'd understand why some idiots anti hunting remarks hit a nerve in me, then to add to it, He has to go say some bull shit about how it's not following Christ if You hunt. Whatever, I'll never apploligize. If I was sorry I wouldn't have said it in the first place.

fine, but that was a racist remark, maybe you didn't see it that way, but i garuntee anyone who reads it that happens to NOT be white (and hell probably even some white people) will find it racist.. you said:


Good thing you don't hunt, deer are also brown, you may be "mistaken" as one.

tell me in what way is that not racist? i'm sorry, but it's idiots like you that caused me so much hell growing up.... it's idiots like you that perpetuate the racist stand-point, and it's idiots like you that keep it alive, even tho a vast majority has already tried to forget about it all and move on.... can make excuses all you want, but until you can grow up and give real arguments against shit and not something along the lines of "Good thing you don't hunt, deer are also brown, you may be "mistaken" as one." you're still a child in my eyes, and i don't care if you're 50... to me being a child, or acting childish isn't about age, but maturity... and in this case, you are showing a perfect example of it. so go ahead flame me, i'm white btw, incase you'd like to include any cracker comments into the mix. (due to how i grew up, it tends to not affect me anymore ;))

[Euphoric]

wat goes around comes around, i always thought karma wouldnt seperate animal from man, u walk around killing sooner or later someone will be shooting at you while your grazing in a meadow not wearing any clothes.....besides, i dont find taking lives an amusing hobby unless its for a good cause..

[bucknuts1870]

God damn, you guys are still on this train? Hunting has been going on for tens of millions of years whether it be humans, lions, tigers, even fucking plants hunt.

Even though we do not "need" to hunt anymore because there is a mcdonalds or a Giant Eagle around every corner. It doesn't mean animals aren't killed every day for human consumption. What the fuck does it matter to you if some hog farmer in North Carolina is killing them or some bum fuck in south georgia out on a hog hunt? The animal is dead either way. No hunter just goes and kills something for the sake of killing it, they either pick and choose, for years maybe to get that one shot at that one trophy, and even then they use the meat, there is no meat form the neck up to be used so why not mount it on your wall. I have 6 trophy fish between my Dad and I mounted on our wall, and that was back when you had to kill the fish to get a mount, now you can make fiberglass replicas.

This is just another case of the pussification of the modern man. I don't hunt, I fish, a lot. I shoot lots of guns too. I don't have a problem with hunting though, if it was good enough to get us this far it is good enough for me now.

Stop what yer doing, take yer left hand, stick it between your legs and get all the sand outta yer vagina and grow up you vegan loving, hippie, crusaders. Just because you don't hunt doesn't mean it is wrong, just because you think it is wrong doesn't mean it is wrong, it probably means yer a dumbass.

[stinkyattic]

Good thing you don't hunt, deer are also brown, you may be "mistaken" as one.

WOW I leave this thread for a couple days only to find it has become a racial war?
That is one of the rudest comments I have ever seen on these boards. EVER.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Cyclonite]

Yea I concur...there was a line crossed and I thought his comment was pretty ridiculous also but everyone is entitled to an option. White/Polar bear is the same thing.

[MVilleToker]

I have been hunting a few times i liked it. its kinda borin if your not seein shit but actually seeing a deer and harvestin it is str8. I wood eat no squierrels (sp?) or nothin thas just nasty.

[eetmiefuk]

Honestly Hunters, whats your deal? Did you have a troubling childhood? what went wrong? Why?




Fuck Hunting. Fuck Hunters. I love hunting accidents.

[eetmiefuk]

HAHAHAHAHAHA , LOL man , you just owed his asss, BIATCH!,,...




shit i'm soo baked., :rasta: :D :jointsmile:



oh i know he "owed" me real hard, it really hurts my feelings that a redneck hick thinks he can get at me. I only hope that one day you will have respect for innocent life.

[Dutch Pimp]

...One Shot...One Kill....works on anything.....just remember the basics...

..."Kentucky-windage"....."Tennessee-elevation"........comprende?.....

[higher4hockey]

Honestly Hunters, whats your deal? Did you have a troubling childhood? what went wrong? Why?




Fuck Hunting. Fuck Hunters. I love hunting accidents.


my childhood was great, we didnt have tv, but i did have a bb gun, a dog and a farm to roam.

what exactly eetmiefuk is your reason for hating hunting....is it hip to hate hunting these days ? you anti-hunter types have yet to come up with a valid 'i hate hunting' reason.


and by the way, the number one hunting accident, is a heart attack.

[friendowl]

hey higher4hockey

i guess its just the difference between city and country folks
its just living where there is no wildlife when i do see it it just seems wrong to kill it , but i understand that if i grew up on a farm or a place where it was more common i might feel different.

i would have trouble killing an animal but i wouldnt let it bug me if i shot another man who deserved it. city vs country [i prefer country]

lets get all stoned and hunt me some deer for jerky

[higher4hockey]

^good point.

...i have no problem whatsoever killing animals, as long as im going to eat them. wasting cats when they would get too high in numbers i really used to hate doing (don't live on a farm anymore). but on the other hand, i think i would have a really hard time with killing another human.

i take it you live in a city....i guy i know from brooklyn tells me that the pidgeons are ridiculous, could you blast them without feeling bad ?

[friendowl]

nope i like birds
even if they did shit on my chest
at the beach when i was talking to a
pretty lil lady [embaraasing but i played it as cool as can be]

i dont even like stepping on ants

[Dutch Pimp]

On game laws: Generally speaking, if it's not prohibited it's OK...for example,

...it's fairly clear that you can hunt deer with falcons.

..of course you'll need more than one....

Y'all have a good holiday...enjoy..

[partyguy420]

let look at this from a deer spoint of view
lets just say cyclonite was chillin with his deer friends
just eating grass and having deer sex
not bugging no one and enjoying life
then comes mr hungry adrenaline junky
with his dorky orange hat and vest
and small penis and big gun
instead of admiring the anomals in theor habitat
or going to the market and buying meat he just
slaughters a life for his own insignificant reasons

if you live near a store you have no phyical need to hunt
your need is based on your feelings of pleasure that you obtain
thru the taking of a life ..any life

first off... let me say this... im sorry orangeman... my rants were directed at the wrong person... it was really friend owl that i ment to attack... so... yea... all of those post directed towards orangeman, are really directed to friend owl..

[growinwoods]

Hehe. Funny... without hunting, homo sapiens would have never evolved... Well yeah it is just a sport now a days. But look at it this way, atleast animals that are hunted and killed have a somewhat complete life. What about all the lifestock that we have in America where they never have a chance to be free and then they are just slaughterd so you can have plenty of food for when you have the munchies... Theres so many different ways of looking at it, so please respect people with the hobby of hunting. I personally hunt wild turkey, boar, alligators, and deer. Yes I do have some big ass freezers and we keep all the meat. I also use the tusk from the boars to make neat necklaces, and make other small things as well.... Don't judge us hunters. take care and merry christmas yall

[growinwoods]

Something to add as well. Hunting actually saves us a ton of money on buying food. Not only that, the quality of our meat and steak is superb to what can usually afford at the grocery store. Just another thought that us humans even in modern age can benefit from hunting. ~Cheers

[partyguy420]

Something to add as well. Hunting actually saves us a ton of money on buying food. Not only that, the quality of our meat and steak is superb to what can usually afford at the grocery store. Just another thought that us humans even in modern age can benefit from hunting. ~Cheers

wow... a day old... and i already like him... i was going to ask if wild boars and aligators taste any good...but if they didnt, you obviously wouldnt eat them.... is it true that aligators taste like chicken?

anyways, i thought up another point last night at the elk stake chirstmas dinner my uncle had... i saw my moms BF grab a elk steak... and tonight we went out for dinner to dennys, and i orderd a steak... and offered him a bite... because it tasted so damn good... and he said no, and i asked him about why he would eat elk meat but not cow... and he said because of the fact that he grew up on a cow farm and saw first hand how the cows are raised, killed, butchered, and how much gose to waste...

a deer or elk, is shoot with a gun, it kills the animal almost instalntly... when they kill a cow, they use a impact hammer(a hammer hooked up to an air compreser) and shoot a bolt into its for head... takes a few seconds for the thing to even drop to the ground...

feed... a deer or elk, wanders around were ever the fuck it wants, eating all the plants he wants...a elk sits in a fenced feild, eating some fucked up shit that old farmer john or farmer jimmy tosses out into the feilds, then while the cows are eating old thelma, sneaks up on a how with a needle full of hormones, and stabs the cow and shoots the cow full of cow steriods...

well... then its off to the butchering plant... ohh... we cut off half of this and make it into this... theres meat in there, but we dont want to cut all of this fat off... just throw it away... ohh... no one needs these cow skins... whos going to eat a toung other then the asians... ohh whos going to eat these cow balls... throw those away... there... now we will cut it into steaks, and grind him into hamburgars... there... we leave the fat and bones in so that when you go to the store, you pay for the bone that you cant eat, and the fat that gets cooked off the meat... mmm that 16 ounce steak was only 8 ounces after the bone and fat was cut off.... now time for daddy and mommy to help little johny butcher that deer that he shoot last night... first we cut off the bones, making sure that all the major scarpe are cut off... ohh look at the little tiny dog*hands the dog the leg bone of the deer(its longer then the entire dog)* no here lets cut some of the fat off... wrap it up and put it in the freezer we can make some gravy with it... here, bob, fry up these for dinner*hands off some steaks to bob* ok... stakes are pilled up, ok, figures out cost of entire hunting trip 150$ gose to store with 150 dollars and buys 150 dollars worth of cow steaks, and brings it home, cuts bone and most of fat of the steakks, puts in piles next to deer steaks... *stands and wonders why the cow steaks are stacked so much shorter...

lets grab all of the shit we wasted from the butchering prosseces... ok lets see...bones, are being used for dog, fat is being used, neck and head are being used... skin/fir is all being used... leaves behind the guts, minus the heart and liver... well theres not alot we can do with the shit tube of a deer now is there? ok... piles of cow wasted... guts, bones... skin/fir.... head, and neck... hmm... that pile seams alot biger then what was wasted from johnnys deer that was the same weight as the cow?

[higher4hockey]

Something to add as well. Hunting actually saves us a ton of money on buying food. Not only that, the quality of our meat and steak is superb to what can usually afford at the grocery store. Just another thought that us humans even in modern age can benefit from hunting. ~Cheers

good point. although a hunting license isnt that much money at all considering how much meat can result from it. but hunting as a hobby is quite costly. i have about a thousand dollars into my guns. boots / bullets / clothes / i have a lot of money invested into hunting.

[slipknotpsycho]

partyguy, no aligator does not taste like chicken, as most tastes (unless refrencing another taste) is unexplainable... it is VERY good, i love it, and i'm one of those people that get very agitated at anyone talking about killing reptiles, i love reptiles, like love love, more than almost anyone else could.... but i HAVE eaten aligator... it's very good.. lol it's a very flavorful meat, juicy as hell, and is just orgasmic... in taste and texture... i HIGHLY reccomend trying it, if ever given the chance.... even half way, going out of your way just to try it... you will not be dissapointed.

[slipknotpsycho]

good point. although a hunting license isnt that much money at all considering how much meat can result from it. but hunting as a hobby is quite costly. i have about a thousand dollars into my guns. boots / bullets / clothes / i have a lot of money invested into hunting.

but most of the money you invest in hunting, isn't something that's a one time use... as opposed to say, buying a t-bone steak or some shit, spend 10-20 bucks on one steak, it adds up pretty damn quickly...

[partyguy420]

partyguy, no aligator does not taste like chicken, as most tastes (unless refrencing another taste) is unexplainable... it is VERY good, i love it, and i'm one of those people that get very agitated at anyone talking about killing reptiles, i love reptiles, like love love, more than almost anyone else could.... but i HAVE eaten aligator... it's very good.. lol it's a very flavorful meat, juicy as hell, and is just orgasmic... in taste and texture... i HIGHLY reccomend trying it, if ever given the chance.... even half way, going out of your way just to try it... you will not be dissapointed.

well.... im not the kind of guy who would pass up trying some new food... theres nuthing that i wont eat if you put it on my plate, i willl eat it or atleast try a bite... but some day, i guess i will go buy a out of state licence or get a guide and go out aligator hunting and try it out... maybe i will find some one with some already befor i go hunt some casue that would suck to have to eat a full sized animal if you didnt like the taste if it...

[slipknotpsycho]

lol dude, i ate my at a resturant.... lol... even if i was into hunting (i'm not against it, exactly) i coudln't kill a reptile, it'd have to be a mamal...

edit: if you like meat, any meat at all, i can garuntee you'd like aligator.... it is to meat, as ferari is to cars... it is THE meat...

[growinwoods]

Boat meat is really good but depends on the weight on the boar itself. Since they will eat almost anything...they are only good to eat if they are inbetween say 250-400 MAX...anything over 400 is just too rough and anything under 250 is not along of good meat. Argh but this can apply to alot of things...such as sharks where they are only good to eat when they are smaller cause they eat so much junk... Also gators...again theres a weight range where they will harvest them where they taste the best and are not so rough.

~growinwoods.

cheers

[friendowl]

fuckin slipknot
you planted a seed
and now my life wont be complete
till i eat me some gator

[slipknotpsycho]

fuckin slipknot
you planted a seed
and now my life wont be complete
till i eat me some gator

well lol if you're ever in the houston texas area, i can take you to the resturant where i had mine....

[benagain]

I've had gator a few times. I wasn't that impressed. Best way I've had it so far was but into chunks and fried with a light batter. I think I prefer lamb, duck, deer, and beef over gator. It just seems like there's too much muscle and connective tissue in beasts like that to get any tasty cuts.

[benagain]

On a side note, anyone ever had true Kobe beef? Not wagyu, but actual Jappanese Kobe beef. I'm thinking of ordering some for my birthday and chowing down on one. Its gonna cost a freakin ton, but it just just be the best tasting peice of meat I'll ever have. It may just be worth it. Just look at that marbeling

http://1-800-steaks.com/1ribeyestjam2.html

[Nochowderforyou]

I didn't care much for hunting when I tried it. I'm not against it at all. I am against killing animals for fur, or to place their head on the wall as a trophy. That's downright sick, but for survival and food, I'm all for it. I'm more for hunting your own food, than buying from mass slaughterhouses. Hunting for food and warmth to I suppose, has been around since the first caveman hit a wooly mammoth on the head.

I did go once, but the people I went with, were more for killing and leaving the carcasses out to rot. It was with my best friends family, who are as redneck as they come. They hated weed, but yet they smoke a pack a pack of ciggs. and drank a case of beer daily :rolleyes: but luckily at the time I was still a drinker, so I survived. My friend uncle, used this high powered rifle to shoot a deer. I can't remeber the exact gun, but he shot a deer in the side, and lets just say his insides, were on the outside after. It was a huge hole too, and I'm guessing a 4inch round hole, through and through. He just laughed about it and danced around his kill all drunk and sloppy. It made me sick, and the worst part is, he just left the carcass there. Total waste.

So yeah, hunting for survival and food, that's cool :thumbsup: but just for a kill, come on, get a life man.

[higher4hockey]

people like that really piss me off. those aren't hunters, those are assholes with guns.

[Nochowderforyou]

people like that really piss me off. those aren't hunters, those are assholes with guns.

Exactly, and they give the responsible hunters a very bad name.

[stinkyattic]

I only hope that one day you will have respect for innocent life.
I think you might like to reread this entire thread... Most hunters I know have GREAT respect for the animals they kill and eat... that the meat is a gift from Nature, God, and the Animal. And they also have respect for the environment that nurtured them.

[Nochowderforyou]

I think you might like to reread this entire thread... Most hunters I know have GREAT respect for the animals they kill and eat... that the meat is a gift from Nature, God, and the Animal. And they also have respect for the environment that nurtured them.

Exactly. Animals kill one another in the wild for survival as well, so you might as well just give them trouble and teach them about respect. :p

Like I said, junting for survival has been around since the caveman days. Animals do the same thing in the wild for food. I would choose a hunted animal in the woods to eat than from a mass slaughterhouse. That's the way it should be, but we have evolved since then.