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invision
12-11-2006, 04:00 AM
ok got my temps way down using a glass shield everything is ready.

we have here 7 primo bag seed, i germed 8 but 1 didnt make it out so good odds anyhow.

our cab is 34"W 20"D 42"H, dual 150watt hps bulbs, 250CFM inline fan, reflectix covering,and a glass heat shield.

i will LST this grow so ill try to show how it is done as it is very easy to do and you still keep the mighty main cola.

stay tuned this thread will be updated almost daily :jointsmile:

kindprincess
12-11-2006, 04:16 AM
nice cab.

invision
12-11-2006, 04:54 AM
thanks it was a old dresser no one was using, a few mods and a front door and we have a nice usable grow chamber :)

invision
12-12-2006, 04:39 AM
i noticed some small yellowing going on so i started them on cal-mag plus which has 2.0.0 in it so they get a tiny dose of nitrogen every watering, they will be on calmag until harvest.

other than that everything is going great no stretching at all using the hps during veg you just have to keep it close :jointsmile:

Volker
12-12-2006, 05:00 AM
i noticed some small yellowing going on so i started them on cal-mag plus which has 2.0.0 in it so they get a tiny dose of nitrogen every watering, they will be on calmag until harvest.Why? Straight water. No nutes. Just water. For the next 2 weeks, at least. I'd recommend for 3 weeks, at least.

Why does just about EVERYONE growing in dirt fertilize their babies till they shrivel & die? Look at these dirt girls: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=93029 There has been no fertilizer at all used there. I'm not starting nutes (organic) till next week.

If you're growing in soil, NEVER fertilize till your first set of 5 fingered leaves are fully developed. Hydro nute rules DO NOT apply to dirt. More babies die from overfertilization in dirt than any other cause. Overwatering comes a close 2nd.

Blä. Soory, not yer fault. (Well, yes it is!) Just tired of seeing so many burnt or waterlogged babies.

invision
12-12-2006, 05:03 AM
dude calmag is made start to finish it cannot burn if used right.

BlueBear
12-12-2006, 05:53 AM
In this first thread, the 5 week flower coala grown from seed was started on nutes at 2 weeks and in the second thread, all of the clones directly under the light started low amount of nutes at 1 1/2 weeks after rooting.
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=94533
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=94536
I don't use the Cal Mag all the way threw, for the fact that for about the last 2 weeks I want almost no N so the plant can use up it's stored N.
Adieu

invision
12-14-2006, 03:58 AM
not much of a update really, i guess i gave up on that 8th seed to quick as i noticed she finally came up 5 days later.

anyways gave them some water and a misting to keep it humid as possible, they are nice and compact so far except the late bloomer, so far so good. :D

invision
12-15-2006, 03:38 AM
that glass shield is really working out for me, the air coming out the cab feels almost the same of the room so when i get the 465CFM hooked up i can upgrade my bulb to a 250watt.

they are doing great nice and green very compact with no stretching like i had last time with the HPS, i have them about 10in from the lights so this is probably the biggest difference from last time.

invision
12-19-2006, 04:02 AM
here we are about 10-12 days old, seems they dried out a bit to long the cups dont hold much water at all.

i transplanted them into 8" round pots tonight hopefully once the root system gets going all will be well.

here a few pics

TheGreenFog
12-19-2006, 04:42 AM
They're looking mighty dry, man? How far is your light? 10" still? Maybe that's a little too close for them being it is such a hunk of a light! :)

How often are you watering?

Got any of that first bud left? Still got your Christmas stash? ;)

:rastasmoke:

TGF

invision
12-19-2006, 04:46 AM
nope no bud left of that, yeah i really neglected it this weekend just too much going on with Christmas around the corner i fudged up.

oh well all will be better soon, they are a bit lower now maybe 12" plus with bigger pots it will be easier to monitor the water.

invision
12-21-2006, 03:51 AM
all the plants are recovering well some are already growing again, some pics for ya :rasta:

Splifted
12-21-2006, 04:17 AM
Looks like they're happy in their new pots. I can't wait for the LST'ing to begin, i have such a hard-on for plant bondage lol. I tried it on my first grow and the results were (are, haven't harvested yet :)) fucking amazing.

invision
12-21-2006, 03:26 PM
i love the LST look makes me feel all warm inside lol

i can already see 8 plants just isnt going to work out but hopefully i can make it to preflowers before i toss some.

invision
12-23-2006, 09:03 PM
everything is going real nice now they are in the big pots, very dense nodes almost time to start the LST maybe in a week or so, i got my new fan its a 600CFM cage fan and can this thing blow some major air, once this is installed i will never worry about temps ever again.

Pezzo
12-23-2006, 09:36 PM
nice m8! havent read it but looked at the pics and they look gd

Weed4Life
12-24-2006, 08:07 AM
Keep up the good work and remember to keep them green.

Pezzo
12-24-2006, 09:32 PM
have u noticed how they never make much progress?, take a pic, examin the plant every day, u think it has grown a little but then u look at the pic from a few weeks ago and realise its like twice the size lol

Pezzo
12-24-2006, 09:33 PM
sorry ^^^ tryin to get my posts back up to 7 per day average...

Pezzo
12-24-2006, 09:34 PM
its on 6.97 lol, i finished

invision
12-24-2006, 10:32 PM
seems they have grown so much over the last few days its amazing, things are going to get a bit crowded over the next few weeks i can see.

invision
12-26-2006, 04:01 AM
christmas night is here :)

i had to stop using my tap water as it really sucks and switched to just distilled which worked awesome last time, im going to start my LST tomorrow as things are getting crowded.

some pics from tonight :pimp:

smokin dope
12-26-2006, 06:41 AM
looks good

my plants are almost at the exact stage as you, i planted dec 5. ill get pics and make a log, anyways, just wondering, do any of yours have pre flowers yet?

all 3 of my ladies which are growing amazing (except, one leaf on the tip got some nute burn i belived and its really recovering)...but all 3 have ore flowers, and theyre getting bigger every day.

invision
12-26-2006, 07:20 PM
i havent really checked for preflowers yet i was battling my hard water and it was making me get a MG lockout so i had to figure out what to do but i have all that covered now.

hopefully i can sex them very soon as its going to get pretty crowded in there withing 2-3weeks and norrow it down to 4 plants.

i have another cab ready to rock if i get more than 4 females :)

invision
12-27-2006, 03:56 AM
LST'ed

invision
12-28-2006, 01:26 AM
retied them down they grew almost 2inches in a day....damn,heres a few close ups to show what the LST does, you open up bottom growth to have a bunch of tops, with proper training all the cola's will be the same height.

then a few more of the cab and then group shots, they are 3weeks old.

invision
12-28-2006, 03:20 PM
hmmm i am begging to think no one likes me :(

maybe my plants are ugly?

maybe im ugly?

damn........

TheGreenFog
12-28-2006, 05:37 PM
Hey, Invision. Nice looking plants, man. I like the LSTing. I'm beginning to think that mine are the only ones LST'd the way they are. Everyone else does it your way...but 'I' do it differently. Still works tho, they just turn into Y's. :D

'I' top them and then spread their branches out and pull out any side shoots. Ya know what I mean? I have a real good pic of one in the Cab of Life that is turning out to be real nice. I believe it has 6 tops...from one topping.

The mother we have also was LST'd that way and you can see the Y shape in the pictures.

Anyway, I'm glad you got this grow underway now. Looking forward to more updates, man.

I'm gonna respond to your other comment in my thread in a minute.


Be cool.

:rastasmoke: RastafarI

The Fog (TGF)

invision
12-28-2006, 08:44 PM
well my cab isnt complete yet i still have to add my 600CFM fan but its so freaking heavy, litterly this should have come with a warning " CAUTION THIS BITCH IS HEAVY" it has to be 20-25lbs.

TheGreenFog
12-28-2006, 09:01 PM
Haha. yea. Tell me about it. I hear ya. Mount it safely, man. Do you use any weather stripping or anything to reduce vibrations?

TGF

invision
12-29-2006, 01:37 AM
i havent gotten that far yet i forgot to get the flange with it, it shouldnt vibrate too much its rather quiet for all the air it pumps.

tho i may consider getting some just incase i dont want to be flustered and stuck in a jam at the very end.

doco
12-29-2006, 06:00 AM
Your last grow was awesome to watch Invision and I'll be glued to this one as well. I'm just starting to try lst on my first plant so I'm learning from you along the way. I'm afraid to bend em over the way you do so Ive been pulling her over a little each day.

Anyway looking forward to watching your Grow 2.0. BTW, that 600cfm is a very powerful fan...you might want to look into a fan speed controller so you can dial it down to a good level.

invision
12-29-2006, 03:28 PM
dont be afraid i take them right down to the dirt they are very flexible, yesterday one of the plants was invading space of another so i had to swing her a new direction making her grow around the pot, so she is bent in 2 spots at 90 degree angles.

invision
12-31-2006, 04:39 AM
everything is still going very nice, they are growing quickly now cant wait until i flower them :jointsmile:

invision
12-31-2006, 07:44 PM
i just took 8 clones for sex, im trying this water cloning gig i didnt think it worked but the results were great from what i have read from many people.

so in about 2 weeks i should know the sex of my plants :)

Volker
12-31-2006, 08:43 PM
dont be afraid i take them right down to the dirt they are very flexible....Agreed. I bend mine up 90° "all the time". Ya can do this all the way through the first week or so of bud. I'm currently turning one stretching plant into a compressed "Z". Water the plant heavilly 2 hours before, tho. I learned the hard way that a tall, dry plant can snap its stalk clean through.

Volker
12-31-2006, 08:46 PM
i just took 8 clones for sex, im trying this water cloning gig i didnt think it worked but the results were great from what i have read from many people.

so in about 2 weeks i should know the sex of my plants :)It works. Just a "stick in a jar".

canuck grower
12-31-2006, 08:51 PM
Hey invision, nice looking grow man! I wish I had nodes as dense as that, maybe next time. I don't think your plants are ugly, though that one in the back right corner doesn't look as happy as the rest of them.

Those bubbling water cloning contraptions look interesting. So do the wick cloners I've read about here. I'm thinking about building one of those next time I cut any clones so I'm going to watch your progress here.

edit: Oh, are you just sticking cuttings in water and changing the water or something?! I just read Volker's posts.

I like this photo I took of a bendy plant: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=335970062&size=l ... I have tied some branches down to the dirt like you said and they were fine.

Keep updating, I'll be following your progress too!

-canuck :jointsmile:

invision
12-31-2006, 09:16 PM
hey canuck,

i know which plant your talking about without even looking, for some reason that plant has always hated me, i hope my cuttings take root it would be kinda nice to throw in some females inplace of the males even if they do end up being smaller.

invision
01-02-2007, 03:21 AM
they seem a bit sad, i messed with the way the air came in as it was drying them out in a day and a half, so a few days go by and they just didnt seem right.

PH checked out good, no buring or anything so not a nute problem, soil is moist and barely keep up with watering so they werent over watered, only thing it could be was the air flow.

changed it back, few hours later they seem to perk back up, hopefully anyways they continue to get better, anyways to clones look good with no wilting or anything so thats a plus.

anyways pics on me..................

invision
01-03-2007, 10:31 PM
damn no offense guys but good thing i can cure my own problems or they would be dead, anyways now a new problem.

during the night a top snapped of a plant, must have LST'ed her a bit too snug oh well what can you do, this will repair eventually?

clones still alive looking great cant wait till they root and take the females and flower them with the rest.

canuck grower
01-03-2007, 10:41 PM
that is a good thing you can cure your own problems. maybe you have a green thumb. I hope I do as well.

I read that if you tie it up you can repair a snapped stem. Can't hurt to try it in any case. good luck!

invision
01-04-2007, 01:53 AM
nope stem snapped clean off like a razor cut really odd, i like solving my problems i always have, no one has ever helped me grow but as you see when i need help no one is around.

oh well if anything this thread keeps me informed of my situation when one occurs then i can see where i was last.

canuck grower
01-04-2007, 06:11 AM
I refer to my log to see which day I'm on. It really is for myself as much as everyone else here. If anyone finds it interesting or useful then that's cool but I [like to think that I] would keep the log anyway if no one else read it.

invision
01-04-2007, 08:35 PM
i moved my plants lower from the light i think that may cure the remaining problem, havent looked at them today so tonight when i get home i guess ill know for sure whats going on.

the clones better hurry up and root its almost flower time :)

smokin dope
01-04-2007, 09:09 PM
hey invision, when do you plan on flowering?

Volker
01-04-2007, 09:27 PM
Oh, are you just sticking cuttings in water and changing the water or something?! I just read Volker's posts.That's all I do when I'm sexing. If I'm cloning, I dip in in cloning gel first. Otherwise, same thing: a stick in a jar of water.

canuck grower
01-04-2007, 09:59 PM
Really eh? That sounds too easy to work. Cool though, something I'll have to try next time I sex/clone.

invision
01-05-2007, 12:52 AM
hey dope, i plan to flower in about 2 weeks that will give the plants about 40 days of veg, i havent hooked up my scrubber yet or my cage fan so i cant flower just yet.

canuck- i didnt believe you could clone like that myself until i seen peoples pics of roots in the water.....pretty amazing.

Abattoir Dream
01-05-2007, 10:55 AM
the leaves do look quite droopy, but other than that they look great...

maybe next time make the soil mix a little more dry...should help :) good luck

smokin dope
01-05-2007, 04:34 PM
sounds good invision.

i am going to flower my girls at about 45 days, im at 30 today and theyre starting to get big :):)

smokin dope
01-05-2007, 04:35 PM
and let me know how your scrubber turns out. and what did you buy one or make one? i think i may need one too, these 3 girls are xxtra skunk and already one smellllls reallll goooood

invision
01-05-2007, 08:36 PM
you know dope its funny, my last grow which was 2 plants stunk my house up so bad i couldnt have company over that didnt smoke herb, the second you walked in it hit you right in the face like someone just burned the biggest blunt ever in your home. (no carbon scrubber)

now i have 8 plants and still no scubber and you cant smell a damn thing, my last grow in veg smelled so freaking bad but this grow you wouldnt even know it was there.

im going to make my own scrubber, i really need to get off my ass and install that damn fan but its so heavy im nervous about hanging it.

yeah my plants are heat stressed it looks like, i keep trying to adjust stuff but i think it comes down to there is just to much foilage on the plants and thus blocking any available cool air coming in.....fuckers......:)

babystarbud
01-05-2007, 09:10 PM
hey invision, my plants looked a bit droopey like yours, so i changed my watering from little and often, to pretty much drowning them once every 2/3 days, letting them dry out good between waterings.
works great as long as the excess can drain off.

not saying its the same problem as yours but worth a thought....
poor air flow might also contribute, get that fan hooked up!

best of luck

invision
01-06-2007, 01:23 AM
hey babystar, that is how i water them then pick the pots up and feel the weight of them, then i know when they are dry.

anyways things are looking a whole lot better everyone seems happy now which is good, anyways here are some more pics

invision
01-06-2007, 06:18 PM
everything is back to normal.......well im running out of space but thats a good problem, check out the lads...............

invision
01-07-2007, 05:38 PM
maybe one day my thread will be popular :(

canuck grower
01-07-2007, 05:47 PM
You have more views than some other threads in this forum. We're reading even if we don't always post comments man. :) Keep the log going! :thumbsup:

Those girls definitely look happier and from the looks of it their growth reflects that. That's a nice, bushy sea of green. :jointsmile:

invision
01-07-2007, 06:04 PM
i always need to complain about something its in my nature :)

i dont know if i can hold out much longer before i flower as things grow more rapidly, i should have cloned for sex a week earlier....oops hehe :)

joe-grow
01-11-2007, 04:12 AM
Hi invision,

Just catching up with your second grow. Based on your last grow of just one plant, I can only imagine how schweet this is gonna look! So far it's looking really bushy in there. I will be looking up your LST techniques for my next grow. My buds are starting to fill in, but just grew too close to the light. This LST setup keeps the plants much further away.

I noticed that you're also using the Reflectix insulation. How do you like that? I picked up some of that for my cabinet too. I noticed someone on here recommend it. Since the local hardware store had it, and was a lot closer than the local hydro store, I went with the Reflectix for my cabinet.

Good luck with your grow!

invision
01-11-2007, 03:30 PM
hey joe,

the reflectix works awesome, its mylar with bubble wrap in the center so its super strong, and when your done with your grow you simply turn it around and use the other side....try and do that with plain mylar without ripping it.

i havent updated in a few days, honestly its just im lazy and my thread was down the bottom and i really havent had time to snap some pics.

i had to rid of one plant as the foilage was stoppoing the air from moving upward abovt the canopy, moved out the biggest plant with node stetching (looks male, males are always bigger) and solved the problem. i didnt want to waste it so i gave it to my mom as a nice house plant...lol...she thought it was funny.

they are going into flower tonight before my space gets packed and i need to sex them as the clones are moving to slow but have started to root on a couple.

invision
01-13-2007, 06:06 AM
well here we are, 35 days veg and this will be their first night in flower, they are bigger than expected i dont know if height will be a problem or not, but damn they look great after being in the dark for 24 hours so i could put lights on during the night.

if i get 4 females this cab will be jammed packed of bud, heres hoping :stoned:

invision
01-15-2007, 04:14 AM
so far so good, i lowered them to the floor so they can take the stretch so i hope i have enough room.

cant wait till they are done feel like this has been going forever, hope flower treats me good and dont have any issues.

invision
01-16-2007, 02:05 AM
im feeling no love here :(

canuck grower
01-16-2007, 02:23 AM
Hey man, always gotta complain about something eh?! ;)

Hope you have some nice girls without any issues too man. Just a big pile 'o bud! :jointsmile:

invision
01-16-2007, 02:43 AM
yup 4 days for a reply i say things are slow :)

kdspecial
01-16-2007, 03:07 AM
Invision its gonna look super sick when those plants touch the galss as they stretch and make flowers. Can you raise and lower it?

I wish I had some space to build a proepr glass cut hood. I've always loved that design.

My box is stealth cuz it has to be. not cuz I want it to be.

kd

invision
01-16-2007, 04:01 AM
nope i cant raise anything or lower it so i guess it is what is it......

man i hope i can sex soon cause i looked in there tonight and its jammed up in there, wish i could toss a plant.

oh well

Stylus
01-16-2007, 04:08 AM
nice log goin on man .
MORE PICS =]

canuck grower
01-16-2007, 04:43 AM
I would worry a little about having big buds pressed against the glass... mold trap. Maybe you already thought about that.

TheGreenFog
01-16-2007, 05:18 AM
Good point, canuck. Yea, hope you get that problem figured out. Next time, maybe cut a clone of them earlier so you can sex quicker. :)

It will sure suck to have to throw one away...especially if she is a she. :(

Good luck. I like the glass design too. Not always practical, but it has it's advantages.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

Volker
01-16-2007, 06:21 AM
They defo looking good. :D Good luck with the stretch part. Not unusual for the ladies to double or triple in size.

Any signs of pistils or balls yet?

invision
01-16-2007, 03:14 PM
i was able to sex one plant using my 10x scope, i seen a single pistol hair coming out of one plant, all the others are still unknown.

if worst comes to worst ill take out the glass and put my 600CFM fan at full throttle but its not hooked up yet, this weekend looks like when that fan will be used.

my plants havent smelled at all, to the point you wouldnt even know they are there and there is no scrubber used at this point.

you will see tonight how jam packed it is in there its crazy, i didnt think 35days of veg or so would make them so big but i guess i was wrong, i think ill be ok for hieght but we will see.

invision
01-17-2007, 04:15 AM
things are the same just a little more crammed in there but hey i guess i could have other problems i dont want.

as you can see i out did myself on this one and vegged to long, next time ill flower at 4 weeks instead of 5 who would have knew huh....

as for the plants here they are.

joe-grow
01-17-2007, 02:17 PM
Looking very bushy in there, invision. As you said, though, could have worse problems. Are you still going to sacrifice a plant or two, if they are all females?

I think I let mine veg for way too long on my current grow. Given all that was going on at the time, though, I couldn't have avoided it.

Good luck with the sexing!

invision
01-17-2007, 03:15 PM
hey joe,

theres no way i have all females i have 2 monsters that look like male with the really long node stretching unlike the rest which are tight and compact.

im going to chop off all the bottom leaves and branches tonight to get the shoots really going, i dont know if im aiming to high but i want to try and snag a 1/4 pound if i end up with 4 plants.

here hoping

Volker
01-17-2007, 03:56 PM
i was able to sex one plant using my 10x scope, i seen a single pistol hair coming out of one plant, all the others are still unknown.A single hair? I had a plant that I thought threw a hair, but it was one of those "spikeys" that form at every node where the fuzzy edge had seperated from the spikey somehow. The plant later turned out to be male. Anyway, not saying this is the case here, just a caveat.

canuck grower
01-18-2007, 01:03 AM
A nice fat qp... yummy. :baggy: (that's a 1/2 pound ziplock even though you can't tell from the pic :)) I hope you can pull that off as well! Best of luck.

You could always tie those bitches down when they get near the glass. That's going to be a nice sight no matter what you do though. :jointsmile:

invision
01-18-2007, 04:40 AM
holy shit i think they grew 2-3inches in a single night :eek:

they got trimmed tonight as no light was getting down there anyways, man this is looking killer cant wait until they bud.

Volker- your right on that i aint counting on a single hair just gives me hope more than anything....dont ruin my moment :p

canuck- im hoping for 3-4oz ill take more is possible, it really should look pretty crazy in there once bud starts up.

invision
01-19-2007, 03:25 PM
5 days into flower and so far one female all other unknown but i do suspect one male so far so odds look good, i changed the reflectors positions towards each other rather than how you see them in the pic towards the door.

i found doing this increased my light big time in the middle of the cab while not sacrificing side light at all, i rotate pots everyday so each plant will get a chance in the middle of the cab.

i think i may make my height with a inch or 2 to space when they are done stretching.

invision
01-20-2007, 03:39 AM
well so far we have 3 females and 1 male :yippee: so i only need one more female i dont think my cab can support more than that :rasta:

its too bad really the male plant was very very thick in its stems it could have held the biggest of colas no problem but oh well what can you do.

so the odds are in my favor now i should easily get another female out of 3 plants, lets hope anyways.

joe-grow
01-20-2007, 03:59 AM
Congrats invision! I know that must be a big relief.

Here's hoping the rest are girls :jointsmile:

canuck grower
01-20-2007, 03:40 PM
You should definitely hope but I think the odds are in your favour to have at least one more girl. Congrats on the first 3! :dance:

Do you mind elaborating on what you did to the reflectors? I went and looked at an older pic side by side with the new one and I can't spot the difference. As is often the case I may be missing something obvious. :jointsmile:

invision
01-20-2007, 05:31 PM
hey guys...

i didnt take a pic yet of what i did to them, i moved them after i took the pics then kinda forgot, i hope i get another female soon so i can make some room in there.

its been pretty easy so far except for the heat issue i had earlier but that is in check now anyways, its starting to smell a bit so im going out over the weekend and getting some material to hook up the cage fan and possibly thre scrubber.

sensi skier
01-20-2007, 08:09 PM
hey invision. great looking grow man :thumbsup: i just read your whole log so far and i'm looking forward to seeing the flowering. good luck on some more females. you are only keeping 4 even if you get more females?

invision
01-20-2007, 08:31 PM
id really try to keep another female but i just dont know if 5 plants would fit in there without shading another plant, the plants now are huge with yet 2 weeks left to grow so im kind of nervous about hieght.

my clones have rooted too so now im faced with another situation what to do with the clones that are 100% female, toss them? let them grow and clone them again when harvest is near? man i didnt think id be faced with this so soon.

invision
01-21-2007, 03:55 AM
day 6.....ain't they beautiful :)

the front 3 are the females and the rest are still not known, i gave them a touch of flower nutes just to get things rolling and have they grown over night too.

the plant that topped itself is the biggest plant there so im hoping this one is the last female, other than that i will drop them down to the floor and give them there last 6-7 inches of room after that i hope they dont grow past this point.

see how the reflectors face now, works tons better this way,BTW the reflectors i made myself :stoned:

invision
01-22-2007, 04:29 AM
day 7 and we have 5 females with only one plant to go :yippee:

they are getting big now taking up all the wall space in there, everything seems to be going great so far im super excited cant wait to see what the last plant turns out to be.

i guess ill see what happens from here i dont think i can house 6 plants much longer and if the last plant is female i dont know what to do as i dont have the lighting in the other cab the plant would need....oh well :stoned:

invision
01-22-2007, 08:08 PM
if i end up with a 6th female i think im going to bring one back into veg and clone her when this cycle ends, so i need some basic mother plant info like how much light and feeding and such.

the space i have to work with is 16x16x32 with mylar walls.

smokin dope
01-22-2007, 09:03 PM
wow looks good. i planted mine about the same time as you. mine are a lil taller. and im transplanting the last 2 to there 4 gal homes and plan to start flower feb 1. about a 60 day veg

invision
01-23-2007, 12:50 AM
man if i waited any longer they just wouldnt fit in there, i hope your area will support those plants they will be insanely huge.

cant wait to go home and check them out and see how much they filled out :)

Kb420Kb
01-23-2007, 01:13 AM
nice bro.. how did you make the reflectors? i need to make some.

invision
01-23-2007, 04:59 AM
its a small trash can cut right in half the long way, polished up some steel ducting and fit them in, the other one has mylar in it to see what works better, honestly they seem the same.

took maybe 2hrs for both

invision
01-25-2007, 03:38 AM
day 10 i believe.

things are starting too come along now, now down to 4 plants with one reverted back to veg to future clones. nothing much but hairs coming out.

canuck grower
01-25-2007, 06:31 AM
lookin good man! like that last pic. :jointsmile:

invision
01-25-2007, 03:24 PM
hey thanks,

i like using macro mode alot it too bad my hand is shakey sometimes and i have to use my tripod from time to time, hopefully all that empty space fills out nicely and give me some good results.

invision
01-27-2007, 03:22 AM
day 12

smokin dope
01-27-2007, 05:30 AM
man if i waited any longer they just wouldnt fit in there, i hope your area will support those plants they will be insanely huge.

cant wait to go home and check them out and see how much they filled out :)

ha ya i was thinking the same thing, i started flower 2 days ago now. so far so good. gonna get the hps goin though any day now and start nutes i got an entire bedroom to work with :jointsmile:

invision
01-28-2007, 08:24 PM
giving myself a bump

canuck grower
01-29-2007, 05:49 PM
a bump of what?! ;) You must be seeing tons of pistils on those ladies now eh? How are they doin'? Besides growing like mad like you said in chat.

-c :jointsmile:

invision
01-30-2007, 12:34 AM
pistols are showing up everywhere, one plant is less than a inch from the glass maybe even hit the glass after lights off today so ill see tonight though it doesnt seem to effect the plant being so close and so far no burn marks or wilted leaves.

they have over doubled in size and the pots sit on the floor and they reach the glass no problem, a few shoots are over a foot tall alone from the base of the plant they are just soaking up the light and loving it.

pics will follow when lights come on at 10pm and i give them a water.

invision
01-30-2007, 04:06 AM
well here they are, running out of room fast, but damn they are sexy! :jointsmile:

i think im going to upgrade my light soon :D

smokin dope
01-30-2007, 09:41 AM
hey inivision. im on 4 days of floruesant of 12/12 just put the 1000 on, with 3 ladies, should i be expecting a huge growth with a big light like the 1000? i have an entire room but yours seem to be just gettin so big

smokin dope
01-30-2007, 09:49 AM
you know dope its funny, my last grow which was 2 plants stunk my house up so bad i couldnt have company over that didnt smoke herb, the second you walked in it hit you right in the face like someone just burned the biggest blunt ever in your home. (no carbon scrubber)

now i have 8 plants and still no scubber and you cant smell a damn thing, my last grow in veg smelled so freaking bad but this grow you wouldnt even know it was there.

im going to make my own scrubber, i really need to get off my ass and install that damn fan but its so heavy im nervous about hanging it.

yeah my plants are heat stressed it looks like, i keep trying to adjust stuff but i think it comes down to there is just to much foilage on the plants and thus blocking any available cool air coming in.....fuckers......:)

let me know when you make it and how ot comes. cause i couldnt figure it out! and my girls are stinkin, there xxxtra skunk!

invision
01-30-2007, 03:18 PM
with a 1000watts that should penetrate about 2 feet right into the canopy which will give you rock solid bud about a foot long, i didnt think they would triple in size i though double at most but i guess i was wrong.

still no need for a scrubber cant even smell them yet thank god, im having the hardest time locating a rheostat whats already wired up for 3 prong to use with my cage fan, guess ill have to make one.

canuck grower
01-30-2007, 06:43 PM
invision those ladies look just great! What's your RH in there? heh I can't help but worry about the girls on the glass. Not so much now but when they start budding. But people tell me I'm paranoid and anal. :jointsmile:

(just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you!)

bud bud ding ding
01-30-2007, 07:37 PM
great up to now.:clap: i love it when a sativa shows her characteristics.just out of intrest what sativa strain are they cos there gonna get huuuuuuuuuggggggge good luck.: why dont you break some necks or grow into a spaghetti grow if they get to tall.:chainsaw:

invision
01-30-2007, 10:14 PM
good questions canuck i cannot answer lol

i dont use a temp or humidity gauge its always dry in the basement and cool so these we never a worry and the last plant came out awesome so i dont think there is any worry.

bud bud- i dont get what you mean by spaghetti style.....snap the stem and train then sideways?????

i did end up tying them down but i only managed 2inches at most so if they still stretch they will end up at the glass again.

as for strian.....just some great bagseed

canuck grower
01-31-2007, 12:04 AM
Yeah I hear you about dryness! I guess I'm just a worryer. That's why my friends call me Whiskers. :jointsmile:

invision
01-31-2007, 03:40 AM
day 16

wow its just amazing to see them growing to the max i think ill be ok though they didnt grow all that much really.....well maybe a little.

i dont think i ever showed my clone to anyone yet, it rooted a few days ago and has been in the cab since then under flower to see how big they get without any veg period, it should be done maybe 2 weeks after these plant so if it sucks hey no loss right plenty of clones where she came from.

anyways have fun guys and enjoy the pics im going to smoke a bone :jointsmile:

invision
01-31-2007, 03:42 PM
man like 2 more inches of room left, hope she makes it

invision
01-31-2007, 09:48 PM
this is ruff no one shows me love here WTF......i feel as i am wasting my time keeping this tread updated....

invision
02-01-2007, 03:32 AM
you guys are missing out here :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-01-2007, 04:42 AM
They look so happy reaching up to the light like that man. That's gonna be a solid mass of buds! :jointsmile:

smokin dope
02-01-2007, 07:33 AM
how tall were they when u started day 1 of flower? jw

invision
02-01-2007, 03:17 PM
hey dope,

they were maybe 8-10inches tall now they are 2 and a half feet tall holy damn,they grew a bit more but less than 1" during the dark period so i think they are done.......i hope....i really hope.

but they should produce some nice bud for me and the lady, 6 weeks left

SmokeyDope
02-01-2007, 11:01 PM
This is an excellent grow log! I can't beleive how big those beauties got and how quick it was. Good work

invision
02-02-2007, 01:43 AM
thanks smokey,all from simple 150watt hps lights, which leads me to want a bigger light for bigger buds.....mmmmmmmmmmm big buds, and to think a year ago i was a nervous wreak and now confident i can grow. :jointsmile:

invision
02-02-2007, 03:54 AM
pics.....who doesnt like pics!

Bree1978
02-02-2007, 04:16 AM
this is ruff no one shows me love here WTF......i feel as i am wasting my time keeping this tread updated....

Love, love, you get love, lol. Sometimes people are quiet, because we're jealous!!!! :jointsmile: Bree

invision
02-02-2007, 04:21 AM
i just want to feel loved here :(

Bree1978
02-02-2007, 04:30 AM
Can't you feel it baby? LOL, I posted on your last grow and was silly. I had been bouncing back and forth...long story short, I like your last grow and quietly (up until now) enjoying this one. Why did you not LST this time? Faster product? :jointsmile: Bree

invision
02-02-2007, 04:41 AM
there are a few things i wouldnt mind feeling however.... :)

they are LST'ed otherwise they would have grown up and out the top knocking the glass and lights over, they are huge in person i did not think 2 cheese ball HPS lights would make such great big healthy plants but damn they are pretty.

and they better stop growing ill be forced to remove the glass and set the lamps on chains, which i dont want to do.

yabatab
02-02-2007, 05:53 AM
Looks good Invis. that new box seems to be working out good.
Nice to see you progressing in your grows. That last grow was
just lovely though, I still can't believe that was your first go at
growing.

joe-grow
02-02-2007, 03:25 PM
Hi invision - you're always showing me the love, by dropping by my thread, so I thought I'd drop by here and see how you're doing. I know how you feel about people actually posting. Except for you and a few others, I've had low outside posts, but lots of reads. I figure people must be interested, or the read count wouldn't keep going up. Plus I keep telling myself, this is a cannabis community ... you gotta think there's some lack of motivation out there. I often try to post before getting high, else my post probably won't make it.

Anyway .... on to my question for you. As Bree asked, I thought you were using LST. I know you confirmed that you were - but I though that LST would help prevent the height problems you seem to be struggling with now. As others have pointed out, both of your grows appear to be from someone much more experienced than you. Great work!

Oh, and I finally noticed that reflector - looks like it used to be a child's room trash can. Interesting concept.

Good luck, and keep up the thread. Remember, it was probably threads like yours that got you into doing this. I know it was for me.

invision
02-02-2007, 04:16 PM
yup that is a trash can cut in half and one is polished and the other mylared to see what diffrence it makes- to me they are the same.

its not the top of the plant that shot out of control it was the side shoots that took off like rockets when i transplanted them into the 12" pots, its amazing how they grow so fast in few week.

its funny though as mentioned earlier this is my 2nd attempt at growing, i guess i took to gardening very well and this was nothing but easy to me, i have barely invested alot of time into these plants i just look at them and if things look great i leave them alone unless its to water.

another reason i have it easy is the water i use which is distilled combined with cal-mag plus, the PH is always 7.0 infact i havent used my PH meter except last night when i started them on 10-50-10 at 1/4 strength and had to bring the PH to 6.5.

yes buying water sucks, its cheap at 0.68 a gallon but my other choices like tap water sucks here, so whats a grower to do.

my GF is pushing me into a 400watt hps kit after this grow she thinks its amazing how easily i produce herb without any effort except watering, plus i think she just wants to smoke more....shes a pothead!

joe-grow
02-02-2007, 05:29 PM
LST (dumb) question - can't you just tie down those side shoots as well? I know little about the technique, but I thought one of it's primary goals was to limit height of the plant. If it doesn't do it completely, then I might want to look into scrog (that screen thing), since that appears to be pretty effective at limiting height.

I tried using the distilled water. Picking it up constantly got old. Then, I moved, and the water where I live now was actually pretty good. I believe it has a ppm of 150-160, and pH around 7. I usually try to lower the pH to about 5.5-6. I believe it was about .99/gallon for me. That's about $6 each reservoir change. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't smoke, so I have to keep an eye on costs. Last check, I think I was close to about $1500 outlay so far. That's great that your GF smokes. I wish I could get my wife to at least try it. However, I should be careful what I wish for - that could put increased demand on an already short supply.

invision
02-02-2007, 06:33 PM
yup i hear ya on that, when we first met she hated herb and took a few years for her to try it and the first time she got high she was hooked, she loooooves to smoke herb its awesome.

i cant tie the side shoots i just dont have room anymore but it think they have stopped growing.

smokin dope
02-03-2007, 12:07 AM
hey dope,

they were maybe 8-10inches tall now they are 2 and a half feet tall holy damn,they grew a bit more but less than 1" during the dark period so i think they are done.......i hope....i really hope.

but they should produce some nice bud for me and the lady, 6 weeks left

oh wow. thats sweet. im on day 10 now. day 4 with the 1000 watt! im a newbie, so i dont know if i got females, i see pistols, and they were feminzied seeds from dutch passion. but i really dont know. one two, i belive i see a cola starting. ill keep ya updated. keep the pics coming of yours!

invision
02-03-2007, 04:21 AM
they haven't stopped growing yet, some grew right into the glass leaving me to remove it and raise the lights, i may raise the pieces i had the glass on as it is a bit hot right under the light.

the clone has grew a net set of leaves, everyone seemed to take the feeding well.

:D

canuck grower
02-03-2007, 04:53 AM
Your clone looks really great!

Without the glass it looks like it might be a bit hot. You could tie them up a bit more or something if you don't have room to raise the light.

-c :jointsmile:

invision
02-03-2007, 05:06 AM
i got the lamp raised about 4 more inches so its not so bad anymore but the feeding made them grow another inch over night and some tops where flat pancakes lol.

its 84F canuck i got a temp gauge just for you, its a bit hot but doable for the moment as long as it stays there, ill figure it all out very soon.

canuck grower
02-03-2007, 05:57 AM
84 is ok if the plants look ok, and they look awesome! cannabis can take up to 90 for short periods of time, 1/2 - 1 hour or so I think. that depends on the strain a lot too though.

right under my cool tube the thermometer reads 32-34 C (89-93 F) most of the time, sometimes less and sometimes more, especially when the door is open. but if you put your hand there you can tell it's not that hot where the plants are. anyway it is probably near 30 C (86 F) where the tops of the plants are and they look ok so I am not freaking out. I will get a fan when I can, but I say if the plants look ok then I won't sweat it if I have done my best!

I think greg green said that root temperature is most important, and that is just fine so yeah...

-c :jointsmile:

invision
02-03-2007, 04:02 PM
took a look 10min before lights went out amd they looked fine but the temp rose into the 90's which i dont like at all, so.......

im going to just do what i should have and raise the glass up to the lights and jus continue the way it was just raised up higher, damn plants.....

the clone looks freaking greatshe grew about another inch and new sets of leaves are coming in nicely.

bud bud ding ding
02-03-2007, 06:30 PM
break those bitches necks:S5:

smokin dope
02-03-2007, 09:43 PM
hey inivision, sorry to hear about the high temp. i had that prob early, i didnt open my door in the morning when the light came on and it got to 97! fried alot of leafs, that was back in the 2 weeks of veg. but its all good now, i got a night temp of 65 and i have a temp of 74 degrees with the 1000 watt light on. its 74 degrees around the top of the plants and 70ish in the room

invision
02-04-2007, 03:36 AM
well i really cant use the glass anymore due to hieght, so the only thing i could do is use fans to blow right onto the bulbs to dispense the heat, other than that they looks fantastic without the glass.

pics will follow i just need to get them off the camera soon.

yup dope this kinda sucks but i think ill survive it im in the home stretch now i cant let this beat me.

canuck grower
02-04-2007, 03:57 AM
With a fan blowing on the lights or between the plants and the lights I'm sure they're fine man.

invision
02-04-2007, 05:03 AM
here the pics as promised:greenthumb:

smokin dope
02-04-2007, 05:14 AM
omg those are gettin big. i measured mine today, im at 19". started with 2 13s and a 15

invision
02-05-2007, 03:43 AM
still going strong 3 weeks flower :jointsmile:

canuck grower
02-05-2007, 03:50 AM
I like how we both have little girls in the flower cab with the bigger girls. Gives them someone to look up to. :)

Your ladies look great invision. Beautiful macro shot too.

-c :jointsmile:

invision
02-05-2007, 03:55 AM
thanks

it is so cramped in there i can only place them back the same way or all hell breaks loose, i snapped off a top fan leave by mistake ooops.

i took off a couple lower shoots that would have never made it up too, alot of people seem to believe these are sativa type plants, which i believe has a longer flower period, look like i need a microscope soon.

Bree1978
02-05-2007, 04:09 AM
Here's some LOVE:

When I clicked on your pic and they blew up while loading...your LEAVES looked very sugar coated!!! Nice GROW :jointsmile: Bree

invision
02-05-2007, 03:21 PM
ive noticed as well they are starting to frost up rather nicely so soon, hopefully i can get some sweet leaf hash when i harvest or cook with it somehow.

they look great when taking out the cab, is it me or does everyones plants look like crap under the HPS or is it just my eyes?

canuck grower
02-06-2007, 03:18 AM
I think I have gotten used to it. I've seen hundreds of pics that were taken under it by now and I think my brain just kind of infers what they looks like under normal lights.

I have such shitty lighting in my place that I can't even get a decent pic except under the HPS! Ha ha.

invision
02-06-2007, 04:46 AM
ok enough is enough, they refuse to stop growing and grew 1" from the bulb making a slight burn(not much at all) to the top leaves, i had no choice but to somehow get that glass back in which i did :rastasmoke:

anyone ever see Little Shop Of Horrors???

thats how i feel walking by these monsters like they are going to bust out the door and grab me and suck me inside........pics pics and spread your love my way i need it :S5:

bud bud ding ding
02-06-2007, 08:30 AM
they do look monstorous i woul definately tie them down or up.or you coulod break some necks.but they can be controlled

smokin dope
02-06-2007, 07:07 PM
invision. today is the 14th day of flower for me. as a newbie i dont know if i have females. im am going to try and snap some pics....but ill explain for now. i have what appears to be bud sites going on at the very top and all over the rest of the plant. I also have alot of white pistols. I dont see any balls like Ive seen on males, so I am thinking I got 3/3 female..but really do not know!

smokin dope
02-06-2007, 07:20 PM
another thing, how tall are they now? :S5:

invision
02-06-2007, 08:32 PM
whats up dope,

they are at 3 feet tall now maybe a little more from the base of the plant to its highest cola they are HUGE...........

i flowered them when they were all about 10-12inches tall i didnt expect them to grow so much, infact they havent stopped yet but i cant imagine they will gain anymore hieght.

look at your main cola's they tell sex first, you may have to move some leaves to the side to really look in the nodes but you cant miss them if they are there, males will have multiple bananna's next to each other like clusters.

dusto2k3
02-06-2007, 08:37 PM
smokin dope, does it look like buds are forming?? By day 15 i have pinky sized buds.

smokin dope
02-06-2007, 08:39 PM
I will take a look in a bit, and figure out whats up. But I think I may have all females. Anyways, 3 ft wow. and your at just over 3 weeks? Im at 2 weeks today, and my tallest is 21". Im hoping to follow in your steps, as your about a week ahead of me, I use your pics and posts to reference mine every day im on here reading and examining pics :cool:

smokin dope
02-06-2007, 08:41 PM
smokin dope, does it look like buds are forming?? By day 15 i have pinky sized buds.

hey dusto, yes, buds is what i see. also pinky sized, well the top cola's anyway. i have probaly 20 bud sites per plant, i lst'd mine for the first 3 weeks of veg, then i let them come back up to regular, but the main stems are funky lookin shape wise haha. i veg's for 50 days with 2 flouresants. i put flower 2 weeks ago with 1000 hps light. :rastasmoke: :rastasmoke:

invision
02-06-2007, 08:41 PM
well alot of people say they have alot of sativa in them so that is probly why they took off like rockets after transplant and flower, in fact i transplanted a week into flower and did it in a dark room with no lights and they had zero shock from it....whooo hooo

smokin dope
02-06-2007, 08:44 PM
well i just went and examined again, its so hard to tell. i mean on all the plants, it apperas to be a cola, but i think i can see what you mean by cluters/bananas.

but then again, i have pistols. does a male have pistols?

dusto2k3
02-06-2007, 08:48 PM
i've never encountered a male as ive only worked from clone. have you looked at some pics of some male plants, do yous resemble them?

smokin dope
02-06-2007, 08:54 PM
ive been looking at male pics the past half hour and no it doesnt look like them at all. i am going to snap my own pics tomorrow and make a post.

dusto2k3
02-06-2007, 08:55 PM
yeah dude, do that and for sure you'll get some good advice. Pic are worth a billion words...we mayb not a billion but alot.

smokin dope
02-06-2007, 08:57 PM
haha ya. i looked at your grow ill comment it after. but that looks great! i have access to clones i should have went with clones for my grow, but i did not want to spend the $75 per clone. next time i guess

dusto2k3
02-06-2007, 09:00 PM
WOW 75 though, WOOOAH, hold on there. Dude I'd maybe take a clond and revert it back to veg and maybe try to make a mom. But on the other hand, 75 is worth it in the long run. In SD the most i ever paid was $20 for purple erkle, that wasn't even purpler...wtf

invision
02-07-2007, 01:40 AM
damn 75 a clone is a rip man, dont fret too much about future grows once this grow your doing is done your options are wide open.

invision
02-07-2007, 03:41 AM
day 23,well i think the stretch is over.....i hope.

anyways some pics to pretty up this empty space :jointsmile:

TheGreenFog
02-07-2007, 02:47 PM
Hey, Invision. Looking good, man. Glad you were able to squeeze those girls into that tight space. Looks like you got your glass back on, too. Those flowers are really starting to show now. Keep it up. Got any new macros??


The Fog :rastasmoke:

invision
02-07-2007, 03:17 PM
hey what up fog,

damn man did you get lost lately from being too stoned??

these babies are coming along better than i could ever expect, it looks like a sea of green when you see it first hand its just amazing :)

i take some good macro's for you tonight and hopefully my shakey hand will stay still long enough to take a good close shot.

bombdiggity
02-07-2007, 03:20 PM
hey I have a question.. maybe you went over this already and if you did I'm sorry. But did you use HPS from start to finish? I'm thinking about doing this - rather than buying a MH bulb as I just spent all my $$$ on my HPS.

Any thoughts?

Nice grow btw man - I hope mine is as successful as yours. Running out of room in comparison to what could be going wrong is nothing, eh? More like a good problem :)

invision
02-07-2007, 03:25 PM
yup im poor so HPS all the way, i found atleast with these lights if you can get seedlings about 4-5 inches from the bulb they do not stretch at all, i had tight compact plants until i flowered then..well....you see what happened.

thanks for looking i need the support :)

bombdiggity
02-07-2007, 03:31 PM
lol.. well hopefully i can get my plants that close to my 400W :)

i also have a couple CFLs so that should help me..

anyway good luck man I'll be following your grow

invision
02-07-2007, 03:40 PM
alot of people veg with just CFL's but that requires atleast for me running more wires than i want to, so i just use the HPS.

your not getting that 400 that close but withing a foot should be easily done, are you using cool tubes or direct venting somehow?

TheGreenFog
02-07-2007, 03:59 PM
hey what up fog,

damn man did you get lost lately from being too stoned??

these babies are coming along better than i could ever expect, it looks like a sea of green when you see it first hand its just amazing :)

i take some good macro's for you tonight and hopefully my shakey hand will stay still long enough to take a good close shot.

LOL, yea man. I guess you could say that. :) I've been around and posting, just haven't had much time to keep up with everyone's logs, although I have been peeping in any time I see a familiar thread pop to the top. Seems like you have been lacking the :love: for a while... :jointsmile:

Well, yea man, I've been kind of "stunted" in doing my updates...who the F knows when I'll have 'em up...(sigh)

But at least we have all the other peoples' fine logs to read in the meantime. ;)

Looking forward to those macros. :S5:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

invision
02-07-2007, 09:51 PM
well post pics dont be so lazy, as you post they will upload.

420Paul
02-07-2007, 10:36 PM
That's all I do when I'm sexing. If I'm cloning, I dip in in cloning gel first. Otherwise, same thing: a stick in a jar of water.

Thats the only way I have ever cloned, its always been 100% successful for me, no one talks about cloneing this way, so I was afraid too.

invision
02-07-2007, 10:42 PM
thats how i cloned

Kindbud
02-07-2007, 10:52 PM
buds are growing real nicely man ,looks like you're gonna pull a nice ass yield for such a small cab, mad props man. Real nice job lsting . keep us posted , peace . -kb

smokin dope
02-08-2007, 02:06 AM
wow inivision, looks GREAT!!

im going to keep viewing this thread is done, but I got some bad news. In the last month, Ive had this new neibour coming to my door, asking for weed, and myself, of course. I am paranoid about it. I had smoked him up one day, and since then, hes stopped by every few days. With a 1000 watt hps running, it was impossible to answer my door for him. I had to cut down the 3 girls today and dispose. I am moving in may for my heavy equiptment operator course, and I have been doing alot of thinking latly. I am trying to move on with my life and get out of the system (yes im on probation in the states..im moving back to canada in may). So after alot of stressing out today and just shit like that, I decided it was best to cut them, dispose and just move on. But yours is sure coming along, I really wish I could of continued in your path. I am going to use the knowledge ive learned and everything Ive researched, for future grows. But for now, they are gone :(

good luck to you invision and to dusto! thanks for all the advice guys

invision
02-08-2007, 03:29 AM
damn dope that really sucks, what made you think he may find out about it tho it just seems to jumped rather quick about it.

invision
02-08-2007, 03:32 AM
updates.............

gave another feeding and see how it goes.

smokin dope
02-08-2007, 04:30 AM
i know what you mean invision. It was just getting too difficult when people would come over. I was doing great hiding it, but I just didnt want to risk anything ya know? The cultivation laws in my area are so extreme. I have such a relief off my back of stress after pulling the plug.

As far as the guy, Im sure I may of over reacted, but I just found it so weird, that he came by every day and if I didnt answer, he would stand there for 5+ minutes knocking every minute. I know he probally was just thinking about getting a sack, but you never know sometimes.

Im just so happy to get the stress lifted, this past week. Plus, growing in my other room, I had to keep the store open, or else it would reach 95+ degrees in there. I know its easy to shut the door when people would come over, but, 1000 watts of light from that room just created so much excess light coming from evrywhere in there. I think the cab route like your doing is the best bet for growing, and my next grow, I think thats the route. I still plan to cultivate, and have learned alot from these boards the last year.

invision
02-08-2007, 03:11 PM
yeah cabs are the best atleast for me anyways, just get a big computer cabinet that 6 feet tall and that should work out awesome with a cool tube rigged up to it.

sorry to hear your problem man wish i could have helped some way.....oh well.

invision
02-09-2007, 03:44 AM
shit man they grew out of control and a few tops hit the glass, I AM OUT OF ROOM i cannot raise the glass or lights any higher so it is what it is...........

this grow is turning out unbelievable i would have never guessed it would be much better than the first but damn, put it to shame :rasta:

well i guess they liked the nutes i gave them i thought they were done stretching but i guess not, i still love them even if they are big ladies......:)

pics

canuck grower
02-09-2007, 04:28 AM
That's awesome dude. You have a forest in there! :jointsmile:

herbaltivo
02-09-2007, 05:00 AM
How long have you been flowering?

Nice pics. Crazy that they outgrew your space so rapidly. I wonder if you had had MH for a while if they'd stayed shorter?

trynagethigh
02-09-2007, 06:02 AM
Invision, im speechless..Excellent grow. Whats your plan now as far as space cause it looks like your gonna have a bit of a sardine can situation pretty soon..LOL..

invision
02-09-2007, 02:44 PM
How long have you been flowering?

Nice pics. Crazy that they outgrew your space so rapidly. I wonder if you had had MH for a while if they'd stayed shorter?

they are just over 3 weeks into flower, i dont think MH would have helped they were short when flowered about 10" then they exploded in growth during the flower stretch.

invision
02-09-2007, 02:48 PM
Invision, im speechless..Excellent grow. Whats your plan now as far as space cause it looks like your gonna have a bit of a sardine can situation pretty soon..LOL..

well theres not much i can do, if i move braches around it shades aother braches so im stuck.....well see what happens

kdspecial
02-09-2007, 03:00 PM
Those bad boys got tall eh? hahahahahah

Just let them grow right up against the glass,,,, It will look really cool. I'd imagine it far too hot for that though eh?

Looks good regardless..

What type of soil r u using? proMix?

kd

invision
02-09-2007, 03:03 PM
nope not hot unless its right under the bulb but if its aboyt one inch to either side they are fine, no biggie

invision
02-11-2007, 04:44 AM
well they keep growing and some got smushed in the glass and they just started to wilt from needing water, a little burned but not bad it will be worth it as they fill in, anyways more pics.......

trynagethigh
02-11-2007, 05:18 AM
ok who stole the cabinet...LOL

invision
02-13-2007, 04:16 AM
day 29 half way there.....whoo hooo

tops are crashing everywhere :weedpoke:

well i bend a few over and will get to the rest tomorrow i dont want to over stress them at this point, everything else is great but for some reason the clone has yet to flower but i see hairs in a few spots....hmm guess this one will be way behind, it must be from the growing stage she had to go through.

anyways pics

canuck grower
02-13-2007, 05:50 AM
they just don't stop! you can see the nugs forming. great macro! :jointsmile:

Knucklecallus420
02-14-2007, 08:14 AM
Wow! i really enjoyed looking through all those pictures. but could you help me out a little? i really have no idea to grow, but im going to do it for my mom cuz she has MS... its all legal.. but wtf do i do to sex the plants, and to LST? wtf is LST?

notorious P.O.T
02-15-2007, 02:24 AM
hey invision.. wuts up mang,,,
plants look amazing.. but i didnt expect anything less... keep up the good work dude..
~Notorious

p.s knuckles... all that info can be found very easily by using the search feature.. or just browsing through the faq section.. cus both those questions have been asked soo many times...

invision
02-15-2007, 02:58 AM
lights just came on................gonna have a look then ill post pics

invision
02-15-2007, 03:30 AM
whats up P.O.T

things are going better than expected here, i had to snap over some tops and they took it like it never happened, just starting growing upward again.

4 weeks flower, things look real cluttered and i guess you really cant tell whats going on from all the foliage everywhere so heres some of whats inside.

Knucklecallus420
02-15-2007, 03:38 AM
nice!!! i like that second pic, really nice
and thanks P.O.T.

canuck grower
02-15-2007, 07:59 AM
those are some happy ganja plants invision! very pretty girls. :jointsmile:

invision
02-18-2007, 03:47 AM
they are really starting to fill in and the buds are just exploding everywhere, they did stop growing too so now i can focus better on just finishing them up.

we are day 34 flower, they are just going to be huge after 8 weeks, i just cant wait to smoke her. :jointsmile:

invision
02-20-2007, 03:55 AM
things are going good, just gave some nutes and they seem to just starting to yellow a tad, just about right being 36 days in flower, not too long now i ahould get a very decent harevst from these plants especially the one to the right.

pics

TheGreenFog
02-20-2007, 05:16 AM
Word. Keep it up, bro.

:greenthumb:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

Knucklecallus420
02-20-2007, 06:17 PM
omg... that thing is giant

invision
02-20-2007, 09:03 PM
they are big, a little too big but i guess ill learn for next time...oh well

they look great pulled out the cab nice and green cant really complain yet, i dont look forward to trimming all that though.............

invision
02-22-2007, 03:53 AM
they are packing on weight now they should be very decent sized buds for the lights im using, im very pleased so far with this.

im going to try and upload a video of the cab to give a better idea of it cause its just nice......:thumbsup:

pic 5 is the clone which is as tall as the rest now :jointsmile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWaLHL-xNZc

Pezzo
02-22-2007, 04:17 PM
thats rely nice m8. I see buds on mine! do they grow in height much once u start to flower them?

pezzo

canuck grower
02-22-2007, 10:40 PM
Yeah they look awesome for 150s! I think you're going to have some pretty nice nugs, and that close to the light they should be decently dense too. :jointsmile:

invision
02-23-2007, 12:02 AM
whats up guys,

Pezzo- yeah they grow sometimes up to 3 times thier preflower stage thats what happened to me they got just too big on me but hey i think i did well considering.

canuck- i hope they are more dense than last grow as they were a bit fluffy but thats what 150 get you really so ill be happy with whatever she gives me :)

invision
02-24-2007, 03:17 AM
3 weeks remaining whoohooo :yippee:

pics from out the cab and they look simply amazing :jointsmile: :thumbsup:

well im off see you soon :D

Chronic Chrissy
02-24-2007, 03:56 AM
I've just seen this page but things look great. I hope to find time to work my way through this tomorrow.

c of green
02-24-2007, 07:42 AM
looks like i have been missing out while i've been gone.very nice grow.one of these days i will get pics up of my lst.i have some plants just about tied in a knot.with your height restrictions you might want to try topping at 5 nodes or so,pick your 4 to 6 best branches and every time they grow outside the pot or to tall tie some more.my plants are about 18 inches(with the pot) tall after 4 to 6 weeks veg and 1 to 5 weeks flower,and have 10 to 20 6 inch buds on each,with about 3 foot of tie downs each.of course that is indica my sativa doesn't like the bondage(of course she is a reveg so she is pretty tough)and is towering over the rest.

Chronic Chrissy
02-24-2007, 04:39 PM
Lots of love coming form me. Read it all and looks great. My plants are just a few days behind yours in flower, so I'll be watching even if I'm a little shy.

PatrickHenry
02-24-2007, 04:39 PM
just read through your whole thread. looks good man! just a wee bit longer!

invision
02-26-2007, 04:08 AM
her time is coming.....

one plants is almost 100% yellow but the leaves are still full of life nothing to worry about, man the buds on some of these are huge, way bigger than i expected.

maybe this is going to sound strange but the plants smell kind of like dog shit,
like a real hard shit smell right in your face when you smell the buds up close.
so i cheated and took a small branch with about a joints worth of herb on it.

i put it in the vaporizer whip and took about 3-4 hits to get it dry, after the 5th hit or so she really started to have that herb taste to it and the hits were kinda harsh but manageable.

it took a minute to kick in but was it very pleasant, i can tell this stuff is going to be a head high it made me feel happy and giggly i am very pleased with this so far.

anyways here some pics i have about 18 days left. :stoned:

Pezzo
02-26-2007, 10:03 PM
fukin sweet m8 enjoy it

kdspecial
02-26-2007, 10:12 PM
Looking really good man... the smell will hopfully go away as you start to fluish... out your plant you have been doing that right? hashahahh I didn't flush mine till late and it smelled like nthe Bat Guanno shit I feed it hahahaha....

but in the end it ended up smelling right and funkadelic... espically when it was put into Jars..

but yeah at first it smelled like ass

kd

invision
02-27-2007, 03:29 PM
i dont know if i should use nutes from here on out, there is roughly 15 days left so i guess i should just flush, one plant is majorly yellow all over its looks neat and im sure glad its normal :)

they are freaking huge i cannot wait for the day im just waiting on my new 100X scope to be delivered today or tommrow, the plant that is really yellow may even finish a week early as the others look pretty normal.....we will see.

joe-grow
02-28-2007, 02:26 AM
Hi invision. I was away nursing my ego after my first grow. Dropped by to see you're at it again. You're doing pretty good too.

I've heard from some that you should flush as long as the last two weeks. Zandor had a really detailed plan about flushing posted around here somewhere. Although, I think that might have been for a hydro grow, and it looks like you're doing soil.

Currently, I'm researching alternative hydro systems to use for my cabinet and retrofitting it for grow v2.0. I think I'll replace the reflector with a air-cooled tube light kit. I'm also going to try to make a place for a mother to hang out, and host her using soil. I decided to go with the good seeds, even though you almost convinced me to keep up with the practice seeds. I figured I'm only going to start with one, and just make clones, if I get a mother. I'm going to wait for the current seedling to take hold before I start another log.

Well, good luck with your harvest! Hope this one turns out more dense than the last one. I know what you mean about that - mine had big buds, just most of them were not very dense.

You mentioned that some of your leaves were turning yellow - are you pruning these? I've read varying positions about it, such as it gives the plant more energy to grow bud without the dying leaves; but then also that it's needed for food during the end of the cycle. Still trying to learn .....

invision
02-28-2007, 04:29 AM
hey whats up joe and glad your not down about your grow, how is the herb you got?

im sure with practice man you'll be fine it took me these 2 grows to really understand the plants in general and i think im set on my own now, ill keep threads going and all but its been too fun :thumbsup:

well guys these plants are done, i got my 100X scope today and they are 75% cloudy and 25% clear there abouts so this Saturday which will be week 7 they are being chopped down, i removed most of the large fan leaves so the buds can soak up the last days of light.

ive been using plain water now for a little over a week so she will be flushed out decently by this weekend, i had fun here and ill update until they are chopped, cured, and weighed.

pics of the crop, i still have to finish the clone that looks like she has 4 weeks to go or so.

TheGreenFog
02-28-2007, 04:15 PM
Those buds are starting to look real nice, invision.


:thumbsup:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

kdspecial
02-28-2007, 04:21 PM
Looking Good like usual Invision,

kd

dusto2k3
02-28-2007, 04:22 PM
hell yeah they are, shit. Like foot long nugs huh?

invision
02-28-2007, 07:53 PM
hey guys whats up,

yeah some buds are just HUGE there is one bud in particular that must be over a half ounce alone its as thick as my wrist and a foot long :)

cant wait till saturday so i can play with scissors hehe....

this is the part i hate, trimming......grrrrrrrr....glad my GF likes to do it otherwise it would take me hours to get through it all.

happy times are coming thanks a bunch.

canuck grower
02-28-2007, 09:17 PM
As thick as your wrist eh? Bet you wish it was thick as something else.

I have to agree with the others here... nice looking buds invision! :thumbsup:

-c :jointsmile:

TheGreenFog
02-28-2007, 11:34 PM
...this is the part i hate, trimming......grrrrrrrr....glad my GF likes to do it otherwise it would take me hours to get through it all.

happy times are coming thanks a bunch.

Trimming is the bomb. It's time consuming...but at least you get to be ONE with your girls...AND you get scissorhash, eh? THAT is the bomb! :D


As thick as your wrist eh? Bet you wish it was thick as something else.

I have to agree with the others here... nice looking buds invision! :thumbsup:

-c :jointsmile:


Well, I know MY wrist is thicker than my something else...so I'd have to go with the wrist. :)


The Fog :rastasmoke:

joe-grow
03-01-2007, 12:36 PM
Hi invision .... herb so far is mediocre. I'm hoping with more time it will get better. Compared to what I've heard from so many around here, it seems I've done something wrong with my drying and curing. The bud still tastes a little green. It doesn't really cause the headaches, and there's a bit of a buzz now. It's been almost 4 weeks since the harvest.

Have fun harvesting! Glad to hear that your GF likes to help out there. I'm with you, it's a long, tedious job. Although, I agree with TGF about you getting to be the one to do the work. You get to benefit from the extra manicuring efforts.

Enjoy! :thumbsup:

invision
03-02-2007, 03:49 AM
tomorrow is the day

well i do know one thing is for sure......i am never growing tall plants again, i know i could have yielded better but she shot up like crazy and i was stuck but oh well, the clone has a way to go still just started to really get going these past few days.

i think ill take a few weeks off and get some clones going and ready to go again, i dont plan on doing a summer grow as it gets hot in here fast so i have to move quick before june comes.

pics before her death sentence :thumbsup:

canuck grower
03-02-2007, 03:56 AM
she is pretty tall, but she's a beauty. can't wait to see her cut down.

invision
03-02-2007, 03:40 PM
thanks guys,

well this journey is coming to the end, i have my black robe and executioners helmet ready armed with multiple sets of scissors :)

maybe ill make my own chant as i cut them apart......hmmm wonder what the neibors would think if they saw me.

anyways ill post up when they are chopped up and trimmed, looks like about 2-3oz of herb so i have to try harder next round, good luck with everyones grow log ill pop in to save the day when needed.

invision
03-03-2007, 06:22 PM
whats up everyone,

trimming took just over 2hrs, my hands were cramped, i hated it.

well the end result was 9oz wet, so by the time it dries i should end up with about 2 and a half oz of dried herb :)

a few quick pics

the clone is still in the cab, im only using 1 light now as there is no use for 2 lights on a single plant, thanks for looking :thumbsup:

invision
03-05-2007, 03:13 PM
my basement stinks to high heaven drying this stuff, it didnt even hint of smell when growing.....awesome stuff.

i took a sample of some lower bud and dried it out and test drove it and man does this stuff floor you, it takes about 15min to kick in but once going i was completly stoned for 2hrs.

im excited man i cant wait till it cures for a month and really see whats shes made of. :)

canuck grower
03-05-2007, 05:52 PM
that is awesome man! i'm in the same boat here... my apt wreaks of buds and i love it. :jointsmile:

dusto2k3
03-05-2007, 05:56 PM
my basement stinks to high heaven drying this stuff, it didnt even hint of smell when growing


LoL, the downside to growing!!!

Nice harvest

TheGreenFog
03-05-2007, 08:09 PM
Hey, invision. Congrats on your second successful grow. Looking forward to your grows when you get that 400w in there. ;) You need more light, bro. Get some dense ass nugs. :thumbsup:

Those pistils look very white to me, man? I suppose you went by trichome colour, but they just look so "alive" still. Maybe the pic is playin' tricks with my eyes. :eek:

Congrats, anyway, bro. Happy toking.



...good luck with everyones grow log ill pop in to save the day when needed.

Glad you'll be here to save our asses. :p



The Fog :rastasmoke:

invision
03-06-2007, 03:29 AM
hey thanks guys i appreciate it all :)

Fog- yup a better light is needed but these buds are not light like my last crop they are more dense than i thought i would have had, one bud is almost the size of my wrist is so huge and lovely.

i also went by the trichrome color which most were cloudy so i snipped her :) plus they will mature a few days even after cut so i think i made a wise choice.

im working with a better camera so bear with me hear she shows a lot of red even using flash so i have to figure out its manual settings later.

so lets now concentrate on the clone, i also threw back in a harvested plant just to see what goes on with it still under flower, i have addes mascots to my place as well :thumbsup: anyways heres the pics

invision
03-08-2007, 03:27 PM
well its apparent no one is interested in my threads they just end up dying or low replies, to be honest i feel disliked here for some reason, maybe im not in the click here, but whatever the case 80% of my threads get zero replies and end up struggling like this one.

well in out of here ive helped tons of people and when i run across a problem im ignored so good luck to the newbs those are the ones i like lending a hand to anyways, and to everyone that came into this thread thanks anyways im going to find a new home.

Bree1978
03-08-2007, 03:39 PM
well its apparent no one is interested in my threads they just end up dying or low replies, to be honest i feel disliked here for some reason, maybe im not in the click here, but whatever the case 80% of my threads get zero replies and end up struggling like this one.

well in out of here ive helped tons of people and when i run across a problem im ignored so good luck to the newbs those are the ones i like lending a hand to anyways, and to everyone that came into this thread thanks anyways im going to find a new home.

I love your log! I liked the last too, and I believe I complimented it.... Don't worry, not very many people stop by my thread but I know they are looking because the view count goes up by 100 or more when I update. I also ask a question just about everytime I update, that almost never gets answered. I hate quitters, so I trudge on...lol.
Again great job! I love, love, love the flowering cactus! Great photos!


Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree

invision
03-08-2007, 03:44 PM
its very aggrivating i put my whole heart and soul into this hobby its really the only thing i really excelled at quickly, i lend a hand to anyone, i dont know i feel like im the outcast for some reason.

dusto2k3
03-08-2007, 03:44 PM
lame, don't quit. I awe at your foot long nugs.

dusto2k3
03-08-2007, 03:45 PM
look at my log, noo one says shit.

stinkyattic
03-08-2007, 03:54 PM
well its apparent no one is interested in my threads...i feel disliked here for some reason, maybe im not in the click here,...well in out of here ive helped tons of people and when i run across a problem im ignored .
Well shit, invision, don't feel bad, you seem to have shit under control anyway, and your cactuses are GREAT!
I have a lot of gardening respect for anyone who can keep a cactus alive... for all that they are supposed to be easy to take care of because of the low water use, I think they are one of the most difficult houseplants not to kill.

Bree1978
03-08-2007, 03:58 PM
I have a lot of gardening respect for anyone who can keep a cactus alive... for all that they are supposed to be easy to take care of because of the low water use, I think they are one of the most difficult houseplants not to kill.

True dat!


And seriously Invision, you are not an outkast....!

Bree

dusto2k3
03-08-2007, 04:07 PM
Its hard to advise someone who seems squared away.

should take a pic of my aloe plant and get some diagnosis. It looks hella bad.

invision
03-08-2007, 09:19 PM
maybe i have higher expectations of the forum i dunno

honestly though i like this place regardless of the retards running a muck around here and board replies are slow as shit somedays.

maybe im being a bitch

its known to happen, maybe ill take my PMS pill now

damn man now i feel like i dickhead sorry guys.

hope my son doesnt wonder where the cacti went on him LOL

Bree1978
03-08-2007, 10:29 PM
hope my son doesnt wonder where the cacti went on him LOL


And the truth is revealed!! LOL, I was lmbo at that!

:jointsmile: Bree

Pezzo
03-08-2007, 10:45 PM
I love your log! I liked the last too, and I believe I complimented it.... Don't worry, not very many people stop by my thread but I know they are looking because the view count goes up by 100 or more when I update. I also ask a question just about everytime I update, that almost never gets answered. I hate quitters, so I trudge on...lol.
Again great job! I love, love, love the flowering cactus! Great photos!


Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree

Bree wheres ur thread ill have a look.

Like ur plants invision

undertheinfluence
03-08-2007, 11:26 PM
badass grow man, i saw the begining and the end. i couldnt beleive they were the same plants!
how's your bacement smelling?

reality0
03-09-2007, 01:23 AM
dude this is a truely an inspiration for me to grow.. please continue with the logs

invision
03-09-2007, 03:45 AM
well its all dry and in jars, i didnt weight it yet but i did give about a half oz to my boss cause he just kicks so much ass.

told the mofo no touching and to remove the lid of the jar once a day for 20min for 2 weeks and he can smoke it.

and glad i could help anyone out, its easy to grow i dont even use a PH meter once i know where im at :)

Chronic Chrissy
03-09-2007, 03:59 AM
Good job buddy! I have low replies too. But I know people are watching, and I'm watching you even if I'm a little quiet.

Knucklecallus420
03-09-2007, 04:21 AM
ive been watching this thread since the beginning! and i love it. one of the best grow threads. i mean, cmon, look, you have 10 PAGES in this thread. you couldnt post 10 pages about your grow by yourself.