kp's haphazzard grow log/lounge/lecture/study

[kindprincess]

ok, got some stuff to put out so here goes....

the first is the clone closet, the second is the budbox...

[aznson01]

nice set up and cab, what kinda lights u using, u no what kinda strain that is?

[kindprincess]

in the budbox, the spacey fat one in the back is trainwreck, the huge tall ones are blueberry. they are late bloomers, and will probably need another few weeks; the trainwrecks are coming off on monday :)

[kindprincess]

as for lighting, i'm using a 400w hps and 16 23w cfl's in the budbox, 2 double 48" flo's with ge daylight tubes in the clone closet.

[BONG0]

Awsome your veg box looks alot like mine, i wish i had the space for a flowering room like that, imhaving trouble making room, blants r too huge, What kinf of yealds do you get with thoes CFLs?

[kindprincess]

cfl's alone produce about 1-2 ounces, with the hps in addition, i'm hoping for a qp per plant...

[CaliJay]

Sorry you've been lonely round these parts KP. I wanted you to be unsure if it was coming so I have been lurking until I heard you got it.

Looking good girl....Where is the HPS light??? I don't see it.

How is it coming with the switchable ignitors???

I burned the hell out of my girls. I'll shoot you some pics of the carnage:weedpoke:

P&L -J

[kindprincess]

here's some more... the first is the seed room, the second is the massive, late bloomer blueberry hybrid, with about 3-4 weeks left!!!:p

hi cj, the hps is behind the big head... the one in this second pic... unfortunately, the mh ballasts are un-switchable:( now i'm looking to trade these for any hps, as i use flouro's for veg...

love, kp:p

[kindprincess]

bttt

[Garden Knowm]

WOW... you are awesome

iloveyou

hey
do you MSN?

[Garden Knowm]

I need to find that box yo were talking about... MY friend said it will cost $60 to mail the box... BUt you said I could get a $10 box....

I will have to go to the post office tomorrow and see what the deal is... It is some heavy SHITE!!!

iloveyou

GREAT PICTURES!!!

you are wonderful

[kindprincess]

sorry babe, no msn... but i may look into it... check your email...

love, kp:p

[kindprincess]

got some no pest strips at waly world, goodbye spidermites:D

[kindprincess]

ok, more pleasing stuff:) the first is a clone of sage. i cut her top just after taking this pic, she's going to be a mommy;) check out the long, single blade leaves... see why i call it sage?

the second is of the late bloomer, the last is of one of the blueberries...

[kindprincess]

no replies... you can tell it's the weekend...

[Weedhound]

Wow, what a setup!! Totally cool!!

[kindprincess]

thanx babe:)

[Weedhound]

Did you put that room together pretty much all at once or bit by bit? I'm so blown away by it!

[kindprincess]

which one sweetie? the veg room, seed room, clone closet, or the flowerbox?

i gess i kinda have built as i go; as the garden expands, so does everything else... the flowerbox has a 400whps, you just can't see it through the buds...

[Weedhound]

Amazing, absolutely amazing! What great work!

[kindprincess]

thnx:D

[BlueBear]

Wow, sounds like everyone is in love with your set up. Good job. Well I have found my way back into this part of the forest. I may get a thread going with some picks, but with a thread like this growing I don't think I would get any views. LOL
Well, I am going to post about an experience I had yesterday, I think I will put it in the grow lounge. It is about the craziest grow I have ever been to IMO, and shows how forgiving these plants can be under the most brutal circumstances.
Well keep it going. I am glad that the crew is showing you so much love, GK and CJ with the Christmas gifts. Well I will check back in later.
Adieu

[santacruz_organic]

i envy your seed room. is it 100% sealed off? i cant wait till i can start breading my favorite strains. Lookin good Kp. hopefully i will pull as much weight off one plant as you intend to. nice setup:jointsmile:

[kindprincess]

hi guys. santa, it's not 100%, but it's close, and it's in the basement, a floor away from the others.

well, i gess i have a sad update...........

when i got home today, i found my oldest yard dog dead. he's 13, it was his time, but, i cried hard and sat there for over an hour.

then my brother runs out of the house and yells, "something in your room is on fire!!" i ran into the house, and into my room, and find it so filled with smoke that you cant see a foot in front of your face. fortunately, it was just my 400w hps ballast shorting out. no fire hazzard, but the plants have suffered... there is now no light in the flower box, lights have been off for 20 hours. i broke most of the cfl's jerking the timer out of the wall. the clone closet looks bad, all clones look sick, though the moms seem to be coming back... i took them outside for fresh air.

so, i'm having a huge early harvest, some as early as 3-4 weeks. so my grow is pretty much stalled, like starting over again...

so, bear i'll be looking for your thread, and your christmas present will be leaving as soon as i get the beans out of the buds, which i'm going to cut tomorrow.

well, it's not always good i gess,

love, kp:p

[kindprincess]

clones are looking ok, we'll see...

[Tokudai]

Nice setup KP! Sorry to hear about your latest run of luck/life, though it does sound as if you are able to handle it maturely and realize it is what it is.... Sometimes timing can be so shitty though:(

If you are in a ? answering mood, what are the dimensions on the bloomroom? I imagine you run a perpetual type harvest, ie not really set "crops", just rotate plants in when you have space/new candidates?

P.S. if you just get some igniters you can run HPS bulbs with the MH ballasts - the ballasts are identical - HPS simply needs an igniter in the system to step up the arc since the bulb is, well, under High Pressure ;)

[kindprincess]

tokudai, the dimensions are 4x8x4... i'm semi perpetual, now the bloomroom is shut down for a while... til i can figure out what to do about lighting...

as for the mh ballasts....... i thought they were identicle too, but alas, these mh ballasts have no x3 line to connect an ignitor... i did get the ignitors, but, they don't work.

looking to trade...... two 400w mh ballasts for:

400w hps
600w hps
1000w hps.....
or maybe you know how to add an x3? the prob is you need to add a feed to both sides of the long side of the transformer.
i'm out until i can get another setup....

[CaliJay]

Holy Shit KP that was a close one! Sooo glad to hear you and your bro are ok!
Did you trace what happened on the ballast? I say keep growing and save up for a digi ballast. My next room is going to be all digi ballasts and bell lighting hoods. Then I won't have to play my x-mas music so loud for the girls:0)

BTW I cut some pollen with some baking soda and went for round 2. Looks like it took this time. I will update when I am for sure. Don't think it will be a pre x-mas birth though but 07 will be a good year!

Glad you're OK Love..

-Jay

[Weedhound]

Kp, I am so sorry to hear about both you dog and your plants. Wish there was something I could say....will keep you in my prayers.
take care....

[CCIE]

My condolences on the loss of your pet. I know some of the old-guard growers veg and flower with MH bulbs. Perhaps using yours for the last 3-4 weeks of your unfinished plants' lifetimes would let you rescue your yield.

[kindprincess]

hmmm, they've been in the dark for more than 36 hours now, i think i'll just go ahead with the harvest.

i spent alot of time reflecting today, and i realy am better... still sad, but maybe some good can still come from it. we burried rusty; i chose a spot that i'd go and watch the sun set or just stare at the waterfall and think. i used to walk him there when i was hurt or brooding, and decided to make it his memorial.

give me a minute....

ok, as i don't have equipement to continue the perpetual, (which i was worried about room anyway) i'm considering some reconstruction. don't know when i'll be able to afford lights, so i'll be spending the next few weeks thinking out a new flowerbox, and possibly a veg cabinet... i saw this beautiful antique cabinet today, and its quite affordable.

my moms and clones survived... well, i lost some clones, but for the most part they pulled through. so maybe i'll veg them out some and choose the best two or three for breeding. the seed room is under mh so i still have that...

well, i'm going to check out the latest...

love, kp:p

[aznson01]

damn i want some nice seeds haha keep it goin lets see what u yield, how much longer?

[kindprincess]

well, i'm taking a smoke break from cutting, trimming and hanging. i didn't take pix of the infested plants, but i will of the perdy ones... it's too bad about the hybrid. that one was becoming a monster...

[BlueBear]

Oh KP, I am so sorry to hear all of this stuff. You don't even know. And that ballast, feel really bad.
I hope that you are OK inside, I really feel for you.
I don't want to drop allot of words on you because I know that they don't always help, but just know that I am a partner and will always try to do what I can for you.
I would just use the 400's for flower, many old school growers still go the whole grow with them. An old friend used to do a grow with about 4 of them and still did good and did it for years.
Well, will try to have my grow's up by morning for you to take a look at. Wish I could
do something more for you little lady.
Adieu

[kindprincess]

hi bear... don't feel bad for me, we all just gotta keep on keepin on... sure, i'm sad right now, but i'll be better, and a better person for it. as for the op, i think i'm going to concentrate on breeding only for now, get a good bean stock. i'm also looking into red mh bulbs (3000k) i don't know where to get them or if they work well, but i'll be looking into it.

i'm harvesting over the next two days, got two blueberrys in the dry box. plenty of beans there too, from the attempt at controlled pollenation.

sorry i've not been able to send anything out yet bear, but i'm waiting unit i've got a variety for you...

hope you're doing well, i know that you'll probably be out alot for the holidays. be safe:)

cj, sorry for not answering you earlier; it would seem the ballast developed a short. i've seen that happen before on a smaller version that we had hanging on the garage. lots of smoke and thats it.

hope your girls are pregnant;)

love to all, and to all, a good nite

kp:p

[CCIE]

Here are the Red MH bulbs at 1000bulbs:
http://www.1000bulbs.com/products.php?cat=400-Watt-Metal-Halide

At $70+ however, a used HPS from Ebay might be a better bet.
A quick search reveals:

http://cgi.ebay.com/hydroponic-ballast-400-watt-hps_W0QQitemZ190059073242QQihZ009QQcategoryZ43555Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
6 hours left, currently at $5 plus shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/400-Watt-HPS-High-Pressure-Sodium-Light-Lithonia-NICE_W0QQitemZ180059862850QQihZ008QQcategoryZ42225 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
17 hours, $15 + $19 shipping, easily converted into a remote ballast.

http://cgi.ebay.com/400-watt-HPS-120-volt-light-grow-garage-and-more_W0QQitemZ230062738642QQihZ013QQcategoryZ42225 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
6 days, $30 currently, $55 buy-it-now, shipping negotiable.

[stinkyattic]

Oh no KP I'm so sorry to hear about your dog.
That setup was really neat! And the plants look like you've been getting good yields off them.

[BlueBear]

Hey little lady as promised, some logs for you. Maybe they can help you take your mind off any problems for a minute or two.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=94536
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=94533
Adieu

[hemlockstones]

Hi KP
so sorry for all the trouble and sadness you have had lately. I haven't been around much lately, family issues going on, but my thoughts are with you.

Peace

[kindprincess]

thanks bear, i enjoyed those, and i'll be hanging out there some too...

check this out, me and bobbong butted heads together and got this put up...

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=94493

please help me spread the word about this one, i think it could help many, many people...

love, kp:p

[Garden Knowm]

KP ,

can you e-mail me some HI res pictures of your CFL grow..

can I use them in my book?

iloveyou

[kindprincess]

i'll see what i can do sweetie:)

[kindprincess]

ok, as promised...

the first is of the third place plant... a blue berry...

the second is of the second place plant... also blueberry... very nice:)

well.......

they refused to upload:(

oh well, i'll try again tomorrow.

love, kp:p

[kindprincess]

ok, anybody know why my pix won't upload? is because i've got dial up? tried two days in a row to post, and they won't upload...

[BlueBear]

I know that with DSL, my pics can take up to 5 minutes and I imagine that if your trying to upload 5 using dial up you could be looking at a half hour. Try loading 1 at a time.
Adieu

[kindprincess]

ok, pix won't upload. that's the 8th try... i shall have to speak to the mods, i don't understand why it is that it worked a couple of days ago, and now, nothing... what's up?

[Weedhound]

I have dial up too...live in Boonyville.....I've had to change the format on some of my photos to fit the parimeters they require. I do also do them one at a time.....don't know if either of those is your prob....

[kindprincess]

ok, here's a pic of my new super getthofied 5g clone bucket (air pump, two lines that i spent two hours popping holes in with a needle, a window screen, some driveway gravel and duct tape...)

[kindprincess]

gk, i don't have any pix of the cfl gro other than what's here now... but, give me a couple of weeks and i'll see if i can't get something going...

love, kp:p

[BlueBear]

Hey little lady, noticed that you dropped by, thanks, I am tired and just wanted to let you know that your doing real good. With the heater for the cloner, I would try to go without it at first because I have had problems with root rott using a heating source on a bubble cloner.
Well, keep it coming.
Adieu

[kindprincess]

what should my temps be, bear? the reason for heat is we use a wood burner that does not heat the whole house. if it's realy cold, i turn on one of the hid's and use it for a heater for my room.... but night temps can realy get down...i'm just worried about it getting too cold...

love, the little princess:p

ps, how'd ya'll like the bucket?

[Garden Knowm]

did the 1000 arrive?

[hemlockstones]

liked the clone bucket a lot, just put together one myself. Mine is a lot smaller, used a rubbermaid container about the size of a shoe box. Holds 8 clones well and works great. 6 out of 8 are in soil now. Last 2 should be ready in a few more days.

Peace

[kindprincess]

gk, no it's not here yet... i'm waiting hopefully and impatiently, checking the window often, like an old bat... but, my esp tells me that it will probably be here tomorrow... wow, and i was about to email you right now!

hi hemlock! my favorite treetowel, how've you been? WHERE have you been? i've missed you...:( hope you come by more often... and how about a pic of that rubbermaid?

bear, current water temps are at 75f... is that ok? should it be cooler?

see ya later!

love, kp:p

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, KP. Checkin' in! Been AWOL for a while. Still reading your threads, though. Looks like you're becoming as popular as you SHOULD be. :)

Hope things are turning around for you in the kingdom's garden. I'll be by more soon to contribute more than babble...

For now, I'm just taking a break from updating the JOURNAL, eating some sketti, and gonna go smoke a spliff, then BACK to work! :)

:rastasmoke: RastafarI

TGF

[kindprincess]

hi f<r>og:) good to see you. i'll be very glad to have you back as a regular.

as for the down time, i'm dedicating the garden to new projects, and getting ready for others. i'm going smaller scale, all and all, but with more variety... and obviously, i'm veg only right now... 'cept for the bean room...

you'll see what i mean in a month or so...;)

love, kp:p

[kindprincess]

splift, give a shout...

kindprincesss (three s's) at yahoo... i LOVE your peppers;)

love, kp:p

[Splifted]

Hey kp, I've been checking this thread every so often, but I just went back and re-read the whole thing. The episode w/ the bud box sucks, I know how it feels losing some plants. That cloner looks awesome, I like that design. I built one out of a rubbermaid box and some air stones (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=1052632), but I haven't got to try it yet. Any luck with the red MH bulbs?

[BlueBear]

Hey KP, IMO, it may be a little too warm, but at the same time cuttings can except warmer root temps in bubblers, but for vegging and flowering plants in DWC, the 60's are what you want. The cooler temps hold more O2 in the water for the roots. I would ride it out though because I have hurd of peple going with warmer temps for cuttings. To keep the room a little warmer, why not run the lights at night, or 24-7 for first 2 weeks of veg??
Adieu little lady

[kindprincess]

hiya bear...i use one of the 400 mh to heat my room at night, i just add it to the moms for a few hours, heats the whole place when i don't exhaust out the window...i'll see how these cuttings do, if not so hot, i'll lower those temps...

splifted... i haven't even tried the bulbs yet, i'm kinda biding my time and getting prepared. got some blueberry and trainwreck beans in production, along with some hybrids, so, i downsized the bb and tw grow to 6 clones (plus the bucket cuttings) i just germed a gbxdw, hopefully at least one more will pop... and, i'll have some suprise threads coming out in a couple/few weeks...

see you guys in a little while,

love, kp:p

[CaliJay]

hiya bear...i use one of the 400 mh to heat my room at night, i just add it to the moms for a few hours, heats the whole place when i don't exhaust out the window...i'll see how these cuttings do, if not so hot, i'll lower those temps...

splifted... i haven't even tried the bulbs yet, i'm kinda biding my time and getting prepared. got some blueberry and trainwreck beans in production, along with some hybrids, so, i downsized the bb and tw grow to 6 clones (plus the bucket cuttings) i just germed a gbxdw, hopefully at least one more will pop... and, i'll have some suprise threads coming out in a couple/few weeks...

see you guys in a little while,

love, kp:p

KP - Can't wait to see these threads through...PoP those beans...Hey PoP those beans Baby! :D

[kindprincess]

hey cj, here you are babe...

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=1146079#post1146079

love, kp:p

[hemlockstones]

KP, Where are you?
Waiting for updates from the princess of kind.

:rasta:


Peace

[kindprincess]

sorry babe, been busy... you might hear more from me at the godbudxdreamweaver thread in my sig...

love, kp:p

[kindprincess]

well, i'm now to 5 gbxdw, started some sagexbb and some bbxtw. no pix yet, just ugly little beans still...

kp:p

[BlueBear]

Hmm, someone can't sleep? Me and MRS. Bear are just cutting down four girls and I decided I would creep around for a minut or two.
Adieu

[kindprincess]

hi bear! good to have you! how's the babies? i've got your christmas present ready, but it's going to have to go the day after x-mas..

love,kp:p