View Full Version : i have a question about " RESPECT "
friendowl
12-06-2006, 05:11 PM
is it possible to respect something if you dont fear it
or do fear and respect go hand in hand
Euphoric
12-06-2006, 05:12 PM
you can respect a painting and such right, like appreicate it. without being afraid of the painting..
TokinAsianGuy
12-06-2006, 05:12 PM
fear and respect do not go hand in hand. i respect my best friend but i do not fear him.
stinkyattic
12-06-2006, 05:15 PM
The type of respect earned through fear is not true respect at all... just a self-preservation instinct....it's like how someone might say "you have to respect electricity" but the respect you might have for an artist or a great thinker or a brilliant leader- That is the real deal.
420izzle
12-06-2006, 05:17 PM
Like Mr. Bush should know that the FEAR tactics utilized in his policies have earned him no respect at all. Proof that fear does not breed respect.
stinkyattic
12-06-2006, 05:19 PM
Like Mr. Bush should know that the FEAR tactics utilized in his policies have earned him no respect at all.
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Well there's a perfect example!
When he is gone and we don't fear him any more, the only thing left will be scorn.
(edit: Thank God his daughters are total dingbats and the dynasty dead-ends with them!)
Breukelen advocaat
12-06-2006, 05:28 PM
Like Mr. Bush should know that the FEAR tactics utilized in his policies have earned him no respect at all. Proof that fear does not breed respect.
Well, that may be true, but in the case of bin Laden and al Quada's supporters - they need to fear us. Whether or not Bush's tactics have accomplished this is another question better left to the "Politics" forum.
Well there's a perfect example!
When he is gone and we don't fear him any more, the only thing left will be scorn.
(edit: Thank God his daughters are total dingbats and the dynasty dead-ends with them!)
That's also true - and there will be a lot of debt for us to pick up, among other problems.
napolitana869
12-06-2006, 05:34 PM
I think its hard to really respect someone/ some thing if I fear it. Respect is better when you earn it with good deeds than with intimidation and fear
friendowl
12-06-2006, 05:39 PM
for those of you who respect LIFE
wouldnt it make sense that the same life force
that runs thru an ants body or a cockaroachs body
is the same force that inside maybe a grizzly bear or a wolf
if you respect i would assume that wiping out a ant colony
would be the same as exterminating a wolf pack
NextLineIsMine
12-06-2006, 05:41 PM
its impossible to respect someone you percieve as lower or weaker than yourself
Breukelen advocaat
12-06-2006, 05:43 PM
I think its hard to really respect someone/ some thing if I fear it. Respect is better when you earn it with good deeds than with intimidation and fear
"Good deeds", lol!
I don't give a damn if a person that has bad intentions "respects" me, or not - they have to be made aware that it's not going to be pleasant for them if they try anything. You don't give violent criminals flowers - unless there's a bomb inside the package.
stinkyattic
12-06-2006, 05:59 PM
if you respect i would assume that wiping out a ant colony
would be the same as exterminating a wolf pack
I agree that respect of life really does include that of beings we perceive as less than ourselves.
You can respect certain TRAITS of a person who you otherwise see as 'below' you....
Think of Napoleon.
In his day, he was feared as a conqueror.
He was respected as a brilliant strategist.
But centuries later we are left with an image of him as a megalomanaical little man with some serious 'issues', who, were he alive today and living in my town anyway, would probably have the urge to drive a red Ferrari with a vanity plate and wear a bunch of thick gold chains and as like as not hang out at strip bars, lol.
JunkYard
12-06-2006, 06:44 PM
Respect through fear is a type of coersion. You don't honor out of true respect this way, but out of fear. True respect comes from appreciation for the respected, imo.
:smokin:
I respect you friendowl, but i do not fear you.
I wish we could smoke up some time man.
stinkyattic
12-06-2006, 06:47 PM
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You don't give violent criminals flowers - unless there's a bomb inside the package.
Well then you yourself would become the violent one.
Remind me not to accept any boquets from you! :D
friendowl
12-06-2006, 06:52 PM
its impossible to respect someone you percieve as lower or weaker than yourself
that was a good line right there
so whats the difference then between appreciation and respect
JunkYard
12-06-2006, 07:05 PM
its impossible to respect someone you percieve as lower or weaker than yourself
that was a good line right there
so whats the difference then between appreciation and respect
I don't respect those who push fear, I respect those who are worthy of my respect. Those who push fear make me want to beat them with it, and challenge them. If they win, it's still not respect, but coerced submission. There is no respect in fear...None!
My son respects me, but he does not fear me. He knows I would never harm him, but he also knows I would die, and kill for him. Which would you rather be honored for...Fear, or meager appreciation for who you are nd what you stand for?
surreys princess
12-06-2006, 07:16 PM
good one....you cant respect something you fear, in my opinion...and to me, appreciation is about admiration where respect is something you more would look up to....dont know if that makes sense, but it does to me..as usual, i know what i mean...lol :D
princess
friendowl
12-06-2006, 07:40 PM
but you are looking at fear in a physical sense
like junkyard sya his son dont fear him [physically]
but what about the fear that comes with ,like what
if tyour son is afraid to disappoint you or upset you
that is still a form of fear
if i were to let people walk all over me and treat me bad
im sure they would do just that. no matter how nice i am
i would get taken advantage of right away. [appreciation]
if i show that some kind of consequence will result in some
kind of negative emotion than it keeps others from crossing that line [respect]
im so stoned today
damn this is some philosphical weed
JunkYard
12-06-2006, 07:46 PM
You gotta stand up for yourself no doubt, but that isn't what gains true respect, imo. That only lets others know that you'll fuck them up if they cross you, or take advantage of you. Some people don't respect anything, some people respect violent people, others respect different things. It all comes down to what characteristics the indivual values in others.
Fear has no real respect, imo, but I do Love that philisophical weed, lol!
:stoned:
btw, my son need not fear disappointing me...he's my son and I Love him the way he is.
surreys princess
12-06-2006, 07:47 PM
to me, fear is a feeling...you can fear disappointing someone, but that isnt fearing the person..if i were to fear a person, i dont think i could respect them..respect is something so very earned, and fear is just an emotion, almost like a reaction or something...appreciation..that is just being able to see something in someone or thing that you can find good in, like a painting or someones goals, way they live their life, etc..i dont respect everything i appreciate..this is just for me though..maybe i am not stoned enough??? lol...
Skink
12-06-2006, 07:55 PM
respect is earned with me,,,if you cut me off on a hiway you loose respect,,,if you let me get in you earned respect... I start all on a level playing field and it is earned from that point....
I think your enviorment is determining your thought FO...
orangeman
12-06-2006, 07:58 PM
Respect and fear is so far apart for me. All I know is if I don't respect something I don't fear it, if I respect something..I don't fear it. The only thing I fear is my maker. But if I respect someone I try hard not to piss them off, not because I fear them, it's just the fact that I never felt like I had a family so everyone who I respect obviously is a friend and I think of them as apart of my family but I still don't let my guard down as if I could really trust them a whole lot.
Reefer Rogue
12-06-2006, 10:11 PM
I respect my father and mother without fearing them, therefore respect does not require fear.
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