A Comment on the Reputation System

[FakeBoobsRule]

Before I start I just want to thank the mods and administrators for their hard work and I am glad they added the reputation system. However, there is a choice for negative reputation and I have no problem with that. What I don't like is when someone leaves negative reputation, it is done anonymously. If someone is going to say something negative about you it should have their name tagged to it. It is to easy for someone to hide behind a nameless insult just because their name is not attached to it. I have no problem if someone disagrees with me on something and wants to disagree with what I have to say but to attack the member is poor forum etiquette. I am pretty sure I know who did it and they have been banned but that is so childish and immature. I have posted on a forum that uses a similar format or template as this one and I am pretty sure that the anonymity feature can be turned on or off so if I am wrong I apologize to the mods and admins. I am also aware that there are cons to attaching member's names to reputation but I think the pros to attaching the name outweigh the cons.

Thoughts?

[Shovelhandle]

I don't really understand how this system works. I have been dropping positive reps on folks that post positive and informative information. I didn't know that people actually are notified when a reputation plug is given?

Shov

[FakeBoobsRule]

If you click on the scales of your own post it gives you your rep point total and if that post has received rep. If you look on your user cp, it has a detailed summary showing what was said and what posts. Under the post count, you get a green box for every 100 points, if this is similar to other forums using this system. So the more green boxes you have, the better your rep and it shows you are worth listening too.

If it follows the other similar system, the amount of rep a person receives when you rep them will depend on how much rep you have, your post count, and how long you have been a member. People are still catching on since it is new.

[LIP]

I agree. I've had 2 negative feedbacks with insults on them, with no name. That's why i think our names should be attachted to them.

If the comments in my 2 negative reps were on the forums it'd be deleted.

But yeah, the only people who actually give out bad rep and are too scared to put there names are the little kiddies.

[Skink]

tagging would cause Kaos,,,better to just shut the system off... I see it remaining just as it is...

reps are not going to make or break your good persona,,,you do...

[Dro_Princess]

Yeah I only got like 4 or 5 people who gave me any rep points and one of them was a negative one. And in the thread I got the neg. one people were wishing every one Happy Halloween. I think they were just being asses.

[FakeBoobsRule]

tagging would cause Kaos,,,better to just shut the system off... I see it remaining just as it is...

reps are not going to make or break your good persona,,,you do...

No it isn't going to break you and if you have been here a while you know who is cool and who is a fool. It is helpful to newcomers though.

Like I said I am not sure what the system is capable of but other forums similar to this enable only the positive rep and have negative rep disabled. That may be another option. Sorry if I am getting ahead of the powers that be!

[Skink]

turning off the neg is a decent idea,but that seems to negate the purpose to me... the net is going to have jerks and I think either we deal with it or not at all,not sensor it...

[orangeman]

Man yes, I think this soo much too. Stupid bitches leave me so many racist comments. Actually I laugh at it because racism is funny to me but when it doesn't say who the person is I just feel they take advantage of that and deliberately try to piss me off. If it was one of the people I'm cool with on here then that's fine but if I don't know some one then I don't want them playing with me like I know them...

[40oz]

Where in the user CP can i find these comments?

[Psycho4Bud]

Stupid bitches leave me so many racist comments.

And that's the sort of stupid crap that will cause the end of this. When we don't have the rep system ........thank the assholes!:mad: Why can't people just be mellow???

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Dro_Princess]

OK I just checked my user cp and it says who left it now. Has anyone elses changed so you can see who left you the rep or comment.

[D.Boone]

tagging would cause Kaos,,,better to just shut the system off... I see it remaining just as it is...

reps are not going to make or break your good persona,,,you do...

yea i agree with that one for sure, there are plenty of people on here that post informative stuff and have no rep.

nice avatar man, lol love it. :rasta:

[Skink]

OK I just checked my user cp and it says who left it now. Has anyone elses changed so you can see who left you the rep or comment.

I don't think so,,,I think someone was kind enough to leave there name...


in rethinking this it may deter negs if the jerk was being exposed...

I have given I think 2 well deserved negs and left a good clue who it was from...

[D.Boone]

i just checked mine and it said who the reputation was posted by. right next to the comment. before that just said annonymous. its a collumn next to the actual comment it says posted by at the top.

[LIP]

Man yes, I think this soo much too. Stupid bitches leave me so many racist comments. Actually I laugh at it because racism is funny to me but when it doesn't say who the person is I just feel they take advantage of that and deliberately try to piss me off. If it was one of the people I'm cool with on here then that's fine but if I don't know some one then I don't want them playing with me like I know them...

Man, for that reason alone i'd completely get rid of it. Thats fucked, and if thats what the rep system is going to be used for then i dont want it. I know it's not everyone, but one or two people have to fuck it up for everyone.

[AlwaysBlazed]

I said it was shit as soon as they installed it. It only leads to bullshit. Same with postcounts.

[Zoosh]

Man yes, I think this soo much too. Stupid bitches leave me so many racist comments. Actually I laugh at it because racism is funny to me but when it doesn't say who the person is I just feel they take advantage of that and deliberately try to piss me off. If it was one of the people I'm cool with on here then that's fine but if I don't know some one then I don't want them playing with me like I know them...

Yeah man thats totally pussy.
People shouldnt be pulling racist shit for any reason, its especially twatish when its anonymous.

[FakeBoobsRule]

I think one of the mods or admins just turned on the "by which member" feature because I know there were no names next to the rep that was left and now it has it. I don't think the rep system should be removed completely, it just needs some fine tuning. It is very helpful if you are looking at a forum where you might be looking for answers such as drug testing, medicine, or cultivating. If the person has a few green boxes then you can take it that chances are good their info is solid. The rep also helps let you see what other people think about you. Do you ever post something and you are too stoned and you wonder if you shouldn't have posted that? Or you can see if people like what you are saying. I know this site isn't about censorship but if this doesn't work (showing who left rep) then by removing the negative rep they really aren't censoring. Consider it more like asshole prevention. You know, if you don't have something nice to say about someone then don't say anything at all so that is what that would do.

Please leave the rep system in play, just tweak it a little!

[orangeman]

Glad it leaves the names now. Yeah it says who left the comments now, but I'm not sore over it. It's way old and not even worth making a big deal out of. But who ever updated it, thanks alot! :thumbsup:

[LIP]

Who was it man? Please tell us. I wanna know who the racist cunts are so i can put them in my ignore list.

[orangeman]

I don't think it's necessary LIP :p. I want them to be exposed just as much as you do but it's not worth it man. Sometimes you gotta be the bigger person. Besides only one racist comment is showing because the ones before that doesn't show as my "latest reputation received".

[LIP]

Alright man, you can tell me on msn ;)

lol

Ok, i just dont wanna talk to or be associated with scum like that. I went through enough of it when i was at school, dont wanna have to deal with the same kind of pricks now.

[orangeman]

Alright man, you can tell me on msn ;)

lol

Ok, i just dont wanna talk to or be associated with scum like that. I went through enough of it when i was at school, dont wanna have to deal with the same kind of pricks now.

Good idea, tell you in the private. I sent it to your rep list lol!

[LIP]

Thanks man, we'll have a good chat on msn too some time.

[Mean Green Charlene]

I might sound stupid, but where in user cp does it show the comments/names?
ahhhh

[FakeBoobsRule]

Look on the far left of the thread toolbar which happens to be about 2 inches above your avatar right now. As soon as you click it it shows the rep.

[orangeman]

I might sound stupid, but where in user cp does it show the comments/names?
ahhhh

Right at the bottom section of the main user CP page.

[Mean Green Charlene]

I guess I don't have any comments or something. Either that, or I need some glasses :o

[FakeBoobsRule]

Try it again MGC.

[Psycho4Bud]

I don't think it's necessary LIP :p. I want them to be exposed just as much as you do but it's not worth it man. Sometimes you gotta be the bigger person. Besides only one racist comment is showing because the ones before that doesn't show as my "latest reputation received".

If you'd like to send me an e-mail.........FEEL FREE!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[suhl]

suhl:jointsmile:

[suhl]

racism, not in our town:rastasmoke: :pimp:

[Skink]

turning off the neg is a decent idea,but that seems to negate the purpose to me... the net is going to have jerks and I think either we deal with it or not at all,not sensor it...

Ha,,, I got a neg on the above post,but the neg was from a no point loser,it was only 3 points...

oh and it doesn't state who it was,,,so if that is turned on I don't see it...

[Skink]

I am able to see the person who leaves the comments now.

it's prob a user group thing again,,,maybe the person who left it thing is not active for cafe members...

[Skink]

I just got a neg and I know who left it without seeing,sometimes it is obvious to figure out who left it...

[Skink]

I'm not a cafe member, and I couldn't see the names awhile back. Now I can.

yeah,,,maybe it needs to propagate through the system yet...

[harris7]

if the names were shown for negative feed back then people would get pissed off they got it. Then give the person -feedback and it would start stupid feedback wars.

-maybe we could have a function to report insulting feedback and the mods could look into it and it would be all anonymous.

-i support having no names

[FakeBoobsRule]

if the names were shown for negative feed back then people would get pissed off they got it. Then give the person -feedback and it would start stupid feedback wars.

No see that is the deterrent. If the first person left negative feedback when it really wasn't warranted, they know that there is a good possibility they would get it back. Usually if a post is so bad that it deserves neg rep, there is a good chance they will receive it from more than one member. On another board I saw this guy get it from about 5 people on one post. He didn't retaliate either because he knew he was wrong and it would make it worse. The retaliation is the deterrent and so the name should be shown. It is like nuclear weapons. No one uses them because they will get nuked back. There is no need for mods to investigate negative rep. That sounds like a bunch of time consuming red tape. Now that would be censorship.

Other boards that use neg rep with the name shown really don't have a problem with neg rep much less a lot of neg rep usage.

[Shovelhandle]

a little late on my reply, but thanks, fakeboobsrule.

I wouldn't mind chatting with my chums Lip, Orangeman, and the other folks on this thread.

Shov

[SocksThaClown]

How many points are mine worth?

[Tokudai]

It'd be nice to be able to turn the rep system off, or opt out of being able to give/receive. It tends to lead to a small circle of "leet" people exchanging points strictly between themselves, defeating the purpose

[SocksThaClown]

It'd be nice to be able to turn the rep system off, or opt out of being able to give/receive. It tends to lead to a small circle of "leet" people exchanging points strictly between themselves, defeating the purpose

IT is possible, but the mods have disabled it. Only they can choose.

[Pezzo]

my rep points hasnt moved lol

[the yeag]

you should see mine i got like 16 good rep points and like 24 bad ones. if it was not for the negative i would be one of the most liked people here wtf

[Skink]

go in you Your CP>options>second choice down to turn off the reps in your posts...

[latewood]

It'd be nice to be able to turn the rep system off, or opt out of being able to give/receive. It tends to lead to a small circle of "leet" people exchanging points strictly between themselves, defeating the purposeYou can turns yours off, but it looks like a black dot under your info,,,I agree, and feel it shouldn't have been added/turned on in the 1st place(in the past the entire Mod team was against it...I don't know why the change was made...It sure wasn't by popular discussion by the Mod team)
It is nothing more than a popularity contest, and as far as knowing you can trust who has the most bars..,.what a bunch of "crap"
It is more like who has the tightest clique. As tokudai stated. "It tends to lead to small groups of people exchanging points with themselves.":noel:

2 things mentioned here I don't understand, but It could be the difference of Mods view and member view. I have always been able to see the author of both negative and positive feedback, and It has always popped up withiut prompts in my user control panel. If this answers anybody query, Happy Holidays

[Skink]

some people say they can see who left the rep,,,I can't...

[Tokudai]

go in you Your CP>options>second choice down to turn off the reps in your posts...

I don't seem to have that option - What is the title of it? My second option under "edit options" is allow Vcard download..

[Skink]

I did not have it at first while others did... it seems there are a lot of bugs... people report they see who left the rep while I do not have that option...

in the screencap of my options you will see that you are in the right place,,,but it is not showing for you...

[the yeag]

your a cafe member

[Skink]

your a cafe member

No he is not...

[the yeag]

you

[Skink]

cafe members are in a group... Cafe members group should have the same privileges/restrictions as the registered members group... the only way it would be different is if the people with the controls gave a privilege to the cafe members,,,I am led to believe that this is not the case...

[BlueCat]

I don't under how do I leave positive feedback, reputation whatever...how do I do it? This is new I like it :) I don't know about the negative part though..I firmly believe if you don't got nothing nice to say...don't say nothing at all...

unless you are talking about Bush or the French :D

[BlueCat]

Oh nevermind I figured it out..cool

[Pezzo]

thanx for the point LIP, merry christmas to u 2 :D. i just gone from 35 to 115. does that mean 115 people gave me points or just 2?

[LIP]

i think the 115 came from me, i dunno. I got 420 points lol... that's probably why. :D

[FakeBoobsRule]

cafe members are in a group... Cafe members group should have the same privileges/restrictions as the registered members group... the only way it would be different is if the people with the controls gave a privilege to the cafe members,,,I am led to believe that this is not the case...

Can you elaborate on the cafe members or any other groups?

[Skink]

Administrators,Moderators,Cafe,Registered and Registered + are all groups with certain privileges... the privileges are usually enabled for a group as it would be damn near impossible to keep track of every one to enable a certain things for them...

[BlueCat]

How does one become a cafe member? I searched FAQ and found nothing.

[Dutch Pimp]

How does one become a cafe member? I searched FAQ and found nothing.

..see Latewood's sticky...at the top of this forum...

[BlueCat]

Thank you, Mr. Pimp :D

Hope the holidays are treating you well.

[Great Spirit]

Thanks man, we'll have a good chat on msn too some time.Are you from England really?

[TokinAsianGuy]

i still think the rep system is a bit sketchy, i mean i'm grateful for the rep points i hav received so far, but they were for posts and threads that i casually made, wheras my longer posts that i take lots of time to think about and write, just dont receive anything. so i'm starting to think, why bother trying at all when no one really cares. thats why i'm kinda weary of those who have a heap of squares under their name. who gave them so many points? do people just give out rep points to those who already have alot just to jump on the band wagon?

i've said it before and i'll say it again (since no one really listens), it's just the 'leet' inner circle jerking each other off isn't it?

[the yeag]

fuck a bunch of green squares:jointsmile:

[latewood]

go to chat...

[LIP]

Are you from England really?

Im from East London why?

[big smoke07]

Lol i still dont know how to leave rep. points.

[Its a Plant]

See those scales in the top right corner of every post?

Click one, and you'll see a box unfold before your eyes, giving you the option to leave positive and negative feedback for that user.

Hope that helps amigo. ~

[invision]

now that i have sat back and watched members use this system it is nothing but shit, i dont hang around the lounge to much and see members with tons of rep......

now go into the grow section, the section this rep system should only be used for and take a look........some of our best growers here have shit for rep...why??

this system should be used in the grow section of the board only, anyone can give bad advice by mistake and kill plants with rep points up the ass, but lets say me, i told someone what to do and i knew i was right but they wouldnt do it, because i have no rep points...............you should figure out better how to use this system, it as of now serves no purpose other than a fashion statement.

[Skink]

WTF does rep points have to do with intelligence???

[LIP]

100% nothing.

[FakeBoobsRule]

this system should be used in the grow section of the board only, anyone can give bad advice by mistake and kill plants with rep points up the ass, but lets say me, i told someone what to do and i knew i was right but they wouldnt do it, because i have no rep points...............you should figure out better how to use this system, it as of now serves no purpose other than a fashion statement.

You want to see another place where bad advice is given? The drug testing section and sometimes the medical section. In the drug testing section some of the advice is absolutely wrong and horrible and what makes it worse is the people that leave the bad advice don't give a shit that people's jobs or probation and freedom or even child custody is on the line. It is not all about fooling your parents and their instant drug tests. They make statements that are absolutely wrong scientifically or they want to post things they have heard but never tried or just because they passed a test they want to guess why they passed and pass this info along as fact or the talk about how "well my cousin twice removed friend's girlfreind did this." Then when you point out why what they said is wrong or doesn't work because they don't understand how the testing works or how the human body works, 90% of the time their response is an immature insult instead of an intelligent debate defending what they said. A dead plant is truly a tragedy but what is a bigger tragedy is when people don't know what they are talking about and then make a statement like it is a fact, either in the grow section or drug testing section.

[Its a Plant]

There does seem to be a lot of glitches with this system. I can't find the option to turn off the rep points anywhere.

Am I alone? ~