New Low, help

[hello3pat]

I have been depressed much of my life do to past experiences dealing with family and the such, but I have found bud to help with it and many other problems I have. Recently I was arrested for paraphernalia and had decided to not smoke till after my court date, but after almost a week of sobriety (longest in a while) my depresion has hit rock bottom. I have n, and I am embaressed to admit i have begun cutting. My lines of thought have begun to become muddled. I have also had thoughts of suicide for the first time in almost 4 years. I also feel as if reality is about to fall apart and all my family's problems are because of me. Before I started smoking I was prone to mood swings of extreme anger and they are back and have gotten worse.Frankly I just don't know what to do

[hello3pat]

I'm sorry I don't now what happened. I just broke down, but I'm feeling better now. I'm so sorry about that.

[partcleguy]

Hey man, no problem... Do you have any close friends you can talk to about this? It sounds like you really need to talk to someone openly about what you're feeling. Depression is not a little deal nor is it your fault. Its up to you to help yourself and its totally worth it

[five0addict]

take it easy dude, everythings going to be ok unless you do somethin stupid and give your family greif. talk to someone, it helps.

[hello3pat]

I almost tried to leave for a while but my father picked me up and that's what made me feel better. We barely said anything, but just him picking me up helped me. Also, I said fuck it on abstaining for a while and scrounged some up

[Captain Hanks]

I almost tried to leave for a while but my father picked me up and that's what made me feel better. We barely said anything, but just him picking me up helped me. Also, I said fuck it on abstaining for a while and scrounged some up

Good choice my friend. No medicine cures depression like the herb.:rasta:

[mrdevious]

Hello3pat, it sounds like you may have similar issues that I do with having sudden emotional crashes that can last many many hours (if not all day). It may be something so simple as accelerated seratonin reuptake, or poor seratonin or dopamine production. But I'm not saying you wouldn't have valid issues affectin your psyche as well.

I want you to try the following things; believe me, they will help a good deal.

1. Take the following nutrients: (and REALLY read the last one)

- 100-200mg vitamin B-12 in sublingual tablets (they don't absorb throught the digestive tract very much).
- One strait Vitamin-E pill every day (doubles the holding time for Vitamin-C)
- This is a REALLY important one that will make a huge difference. Get some vitamin-C tablets and consume 3,000-4,000mg a day, but gradually work up to it over about a week. You'll see a very noticeable increase in mental and physical energy levels. You can even take it higher to 6,000mg once you've been on the system for a while. This is considerably higher than the recommended dose, but the government studies these recommendations are based on are very poor quality and have been disproven by later studies which suggest the human body needs considerably more than we normaly injecst. Don't worry, vitamin-C toxicity isn't even a possible issue till you exceed 24,000mg. Some people even injest that much and swear it makes them feel fantastic (though it seems excessive to me). Also, just taking 2,000mg at once can boost your energy levels within 20 minutes noticeably.

2. Cut out wheat and other gluten-containing products for a week and see if that makes a difference. many people have depression/anxiety as a result of gluten intolerance, or celiac disease, which often manifests itself only as psychological problems. HUGE amounts of people have dealt with depression for years merely because they eat tonnes of gluten.

3. Think about how much you eat grains and starches (ie. oats, wheat, potatoes) compared to how much you eat varrious fruits. Now switch them around. Seriously, start using fruit as your main staple for energy and keep carbohydrate bombs to a minumum. Also eat 1 high-protein food per day, such as eggs (the cholesteral isn't as bad as you think), chicken, fish, and feel free to have beef and other "heartier" meats once in a while if you wish. This will also significantly lower your intake of some toxins and oxidants which damage RNA structures.

4. Do 20 minutes of cardio excercise per day. And if you really won't/can't commit to that, just 15-20 minutes of anything that gets your heart going more. Also, taking a 1-hour walk (I like nightwalks) is very beneficial as well.

5. Get the proper anti-oxidents into your system. Rooibose red or green tea has 50x the anti-oxidants of regular green tea (though green-tea's good too). Plus, eat an apple a day, eat the skin on Kiwi's, eat strawberries and rasberries whenever they come along, and onions are great too. Garlic is also an anti-oxidant and a powerfull anti-viral (plus some bacterias).

6. Don't live on drinks pumped full of sugar; that includes jiuces, pop/soda (especially), of whatever else. Give your body water and water only 90% of the time. A moderate serving of clean water should always be had with your meals since the hydrogen aids in the digestive process greatly (but large amounts of water will dilute your stomach acids too much).

7. Meditation is very beneficial, but only if you have real devotion to it. It's much more beneficial to meditate for 5-10 minutes a few times a day, then one big hour-long meditation once a day. At first, before you find an emotional and psychological balance within yourself, meditating may actually bring your stress-inducing issues to the surface, so keep that in mind.

8. Very small doses of salvia divinorum extract, taken 3 times a week, and just enough to mildly feel the effects, has a remarkable anti-depressant effect on many people including myself. Some other people get depressed from it, so maybe just try it at that very small dose and see what it does for you. For me, it pulls me out of the negative-perceptive rut I get stuck in at times and allows me to view the world as a beautiful place again.

I know this sounds like a big devotion, but it's really an easy way to live once you get used to it. Trust me, you WILL see results from doing these.

[thcbongman]

I have been depressed much of my life do to past experiences dealing with family and the such, but I have found bud to help with it and many other problems I have. Recently I was arrested for paraphernalia and had decided to not smoke till after my court date, but after almost a week of sobriety (longest in a while) my depresion has hit rock bottom. I have n, and I am embaressed to admit i have begun cutting. My lines of thought have begun to become muddled. I have also had thoughts of suicide for the first time in almost 4 years. I also feel as if reality is about to fall apart and all my family's problems are because of me. Before I started smoking I was prone to mood swings of extreme anger and they are back and have gotten worse.Frankly I just don't know what to do

A lot of the stress has to do with your impending court date. I know how it feels, there's a lot of anger inside of you right now. However don't think of bud as the solution to your problems, it only relieves it, it's not the cure. Vent your anger positively: meditation, writing, drawing. You need an outlet for your anger, otherwise you'll end up hurting someone or yourself. Keep your mind occupied, and exercise, it really helps with stabilizing your mood. Find someone to talk too, it'll take a load off your mind.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I've been taking a small amount of 5-HTP twice a day - it seems to help my mood because it regulates serotonin.

The advice about gluten in mrdevious' post is right on target. I've been gluten-free for a while because of celiac disease - I was sick my whole life and recently found that I have gluten intolerance genes from both my parents. Most people have at least a gluten-sensitivity gene and should avoid it as well. Cows milk is also bad - due to casein. Itâ?? works on the opiate receptors in the brain, much like gluten, and this is not a good thing.

Another helpful thing that is relatively simple is juicing - I've been making fruit juices that include blackberries, oranges, grapes, and apples every morning, and it's a great way to start your day, if you have time. I also enjoy carrot juice most every day.

Many, if not most, of your problems could be alleviated with a customized nutritional program.

[hello3pat]

Thanks guys, mrdevious I have talked to my father and my counsler and they both think they are sound ideas, but my counsler thinks the amount of C might be a bit much for me. Also she suggested I do a more research about Salvia Divinorum especially the long terms effects and she suggested I read read a book by Deepak Chompram M.D. about herbal solutions.

[Inferius]

Dude your a little puss

Hope you burn in hell. :)

And you want some BAD advice??

If you EVER think about killing yourself, and imean REALLY think about it, I've been there I know the difference, DO THIS. DO NOT KILL YOURSELF. Just go out, buy some drugs, and get high until you fall asleep. This is bad advice, I know, but at least you'll still (most likely) be alive the next morning. And that simple action of living, will severely raise the chances of you overcoming the depression compared to putting a bullet in your head.

[Samwhore]

Dude your a little puss

and your a little asshole

[hello3pat]

That's the thing i hadn't smoked for a week

[Samwhore]

o, i go opposite when im dry, when im dry, i go crazy i guess i need drugs, withdraws are horrible

[smoke it]

dude, deprseeion sucks, i know. my dad went through it, and so have i. but cutting your self is fuckin stupid. christ man, what does it accomplish? wat, you forget how to feel? you need to feel my foot up your ass for doing something so stupid

[justinsane]

Dude your a little puss

your presence is not needed, nor is it welcomed here.

helpful and encouraging input is what we're after. if you cant offer it, dont say anything.

[mrdevious]

dude, deprseeion sucks, i know. my dad went through it, and so have i. but cutting your self is fuckin stupid. christ man, what does it accomplish? wat, you forget how to feel? you need to feel my foot up your ass for doing something so stupid

I think cutting happens for a variety of (personal) reasons, not just "forgetting how to feel". The endorphine rush is just one reason, an instant way to feel better. Some do it for attention. Many people find it puts them in a state of mental disociation, an escape that is. Some do it for the reason, which is often only understood by the subconscious, of tricking their brain into believing the suffering it's experiencing is a result of the external pain, not internal mental anguish.

Nothing is so simple as just "stop being an idiot".

[TheSmokingMonkey]

Better depressed until your court date than depressed in prison.

Seek other solace and stay with a friend if you need to. I have been very depressed myself and know what it can be like.

You can do it. Stick to it.