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savagepossum
11-29-2006, 06:10 PM
People in the u.k who are smoking weed with grit in STOP NOW the grit they put in this weed can cause silicosis a lung disease which takes 15 years to come into full effect and then leaving you only about six months to live there is also no cure for this disease and smoking only makes it worse.

if you have smoked weed with grit in it then either give up, find a new dealer or start growing this is not a joke

king cola
11-29-2006, 06:19 PM
dude, thats bad, we been gettin shit loadsa that crap down here (west mids) its such a shame as well cause its such nice weed but ruined by that bloody glass/sand/grit crap!! whats the score with it anyway? how and why the fuck is it ending up in our buds!!! Note to growers/ importers IF YOUR DOING THIS TO BUD THEN YOUR A BASTARD, STOP TRYING TO MAKE THE WEED WEIGH MORE GETTIN YOURSELF A LOVELY LITTLE PROFIT WHILE US FRIENDLY PEACEFUL PEOPLE HACK OUR LUNGS TO SHIT!!!! ive got an 1/8 of it yesterday, i found that if you use a plastic grinder and grind the weed for age whille holding the grinder sideways, you can get a large proportion of that shit out, i ground 3 j's worth which before hand weighed 1.2g, after grinding and tryin to get the shit offf it weighed 0.9!! bastards!!

pixel
11-29-2006, 06:19 PM
can you inform this curious north american as to what 'grit' is.. sounds pretty nasty and i wanna make sure im not smoking it lol

Nochowderforyou
11-29-2006, 06:22 PM
From what I hear, there are dealers in the UK adding sand, and broken glass to the buds to add more weight. If this happens, just shake the buds and most of the grit will come off, sure, it'll be less weight, but it's better than smoking sand. :p

orangeman
11-29-2006, 06:32 PM
What the hell..that better be a scare tactic because I have never heard of that before...

savagepossum
11-29-2006, 06:32 PM
scilia sand,fiberglass, brickdust,grit etc it varys from place to place

please do not make light of this situation! this is serious for people in the u.k who are buying this shit and could be a real threat to the health of stoners all around england.

king cola
11-29-2006, 06:33 PM
i dont think its the dealers, im thinking the growers, beacause if dealers are doing this then that would mean the grit is on the outside mostly but when you pull apart a dense bud there is just as much glass in the center of the bud, which is one theory we have down here that the buds are sprayed with whatever the hell it is throughout the duration of flowering hence why the grit is throughout the bud!

harris7
11-29-2006, 06:40 PM
I dont know man growers alredy have a good profit margen. it's ushally shitty dealers who are scraping for profit

LIP
11-29-2006, 07:53 PM
All my shit's fine.

Just get it straight from a grower.

Or shake your bud. Nothing to worry about.

justinsane
11-29-2006, 08:06 PM
IMO: Weed is just becoming too much of a burden to buy these days.

Its either overpriced so the dealer can make money. The bag is pinched by someone along the way so they can score a high. And now this!?

The second I get a secure, safe space, I'm going to grow. And happily delete all my dealer's numbers while I enjoy a joint of my homegrown.

It will be a happy happy day.

Kid Dynamite
11-29-2006, 08:07 PM
yeah im with LIP...i dont know what you lot are getting but my dealer sure as hell doesent put broken glass in his weed. I have heard rumours of this, and as far as i know the gritty substance is a residue left over from a product used in the bud curing process, which has the side effect of adding extra weight. I think brick dust, sand and broken glass is a little far fetched. Why would dealers want their customers to die...not really very good business sense.

savagepossum
11-29-2006, 09:05 PM
if you want to stay niave then fine and lip not everyone has access to a grower far from it in fact.

why don't you tell me what the residue is that is used in the curing process!?

glass is rarely used but stuff like scillia sand and ground up grit is used alot which can cause serious health problems in the long term.
And this is all thanks to our wonderfull fucking government and crackdown on cannabis factories and the new evil drug called 'skunk'

LIP
11-29-2006, 09:55 PM
Yes, well our government dont care about us, at all. They couldnt give a shit.

But sand doesnt burn, neither does glass, no that those temps, it's not hot enough, AND glass is just sand. So, what are the health risks from smoking something that doesnt burn? Killer poison on the sand?

I dont think it's anything to worry about, as long as you shake it. Im not saying it's right though, they need to let it cure natually and stop being such greedty little cunts.

But if it pisses you of that much, find a grower [which isnt as hard as you make it out to be] or grow your own, it's easy as fook and you can get it for almost nothing. A CFL grow from start to finish will cost hardly anything, wont even put a dent in your electric bill, and the pots and soil hardly cost a alot and there's always cheap ferts... but hey, why no go organic, let it go natural.

Enjoy.

JohnGalt
11-29-2006, 11:15 PM
I think he's talking about inhaling the shit. That's NOT good for your lungs (If you think about the early miners who would inhale sand and rock dust as they worked, alot of them got lung infections and diseases. Sand is abrasive, and will damage).

I guess if you smoked it through a bong, that would fix most of that problem, but still, it's a principle thing.

lil josh
11-29-2006, 11:22 PM
if you think you have this in your weed but your not sure roll a j with it then flick the ash in your hand rub the ash and you will b able to feel the grit, one of my dealers done this to some of his, he was putting fine sand in with it, luckily i didnt get any of this but a few of ma friends did you can see it at the bottom of the baggie really horrible and verry obvious :S if there gona do anythink to it then just spray it with water dnt put stuff in it that can harm us :(

timothylearyisdead
11-30-2006, 01:51 AM
this is why weed needs to be legalized and regulated. that and all the crime it generates from shady dealers. the leaders of the world need to wake up and see that people are not going to stop smoking cannabis. i seriously think the only reason its still illegal is because it would put a lot of pharmicudical companies out of b'iness because weed is such and easily obtainable form of medication. fuck that. they dont give a shit about the countless lives they ruin, theyre just in it for $$$$$. same with those bitch ass dealers, who wouldnt even be dealers if cannabis were legal, so i guess we can pin all of this on the govt. fuck them.

misspotn
11-30-2006, 06:59 AM
Ummm, I'm not sure that that would cause that huge of a problem, certainly not something that comes out in 15 years and kills you in 6 months. That just sounds silly. Most likely, the sand (which can only burn/melt/liquify under INTENSE temps, like, lightening) would just cause you to cough if you actually inhaled it. Most of it probably wouldn't even get that far, as it would get stuck on your mucous (that's the point of it). At the very worst, it could make tiny cuts in your trachea or lungs. But that would likely only cause infection in people with compromised immune systems. Broken glass would likely be very noticable, so it would be neglible in this "problem."

Quick fix? Inspect your weed before you smoke it! If you're really worried, get a magnifiying glass or whatever...

JaggedEdge
11-30-2006, 07:33 AM
Ummm, I'm not sure that that would cause that huge of a problem, certainly not something that comes out in 15 years and kills you in 6 months. That just sounds silly. Most likely, the sand (which can only burn/melt/liquify under INTENSE temps, like, lightening) would just cause you to cough if you actually inhaled it. Most of it probably wouldn't even get that far, as it would get stuck on your mucous (that's the point of it). At the very worst, it could make tiny cuts in your trachea or lungs. But that would likely only cause infection in people with compromised immune systems. Broken glass would likely be very noticable, so it would be neglible in this "problem."

Quick fix? Inspect your weed before you smoke it! If you're really worried, get a magnifiying glass or whatever...

http://www.munichreamerica.com/content/iw/iw.asp?p=0&c=hill_silica&g=devexp&auth=noauthor&[email protected]

The quartz mentioned in the article would be found in most weed with sand in it. Obviously there are some health risks from inhaling it, I don't think cancer is to far fetched. Y'all would be suprise what google can turn up by typing in a few simple words.

It should be noted this sand is often used in the making of glass. It may help to brush off your weed, but you can't say there aren't potential health risks associated with it.

bzbuzzard
11-30-2006, 07:55 AM
you can get lung cancer from smoking period lol

misspotn
11-30-2006, 08:04 AM
http://www.munichreamerica.com/content/iw/iw.asp?p=0&c=hill_silica&g=devexp&auth=noauthor&[email protected]

The quartz mentioned in the article would be found in most weed with sand in it. Obviously there are some health risks from inhaling it, I don't think cancer is to far fetched. Y'all would be suprise what google can turn up by typing in a few simple words.

It should be noted this sand is often used in the making of glass. It may help to brush off your weed, but you can't say there aren't potential health risks associated with it.

I never really said that it wasn't completely not dangerous. I just was stating that the original poster's description of the 15 year thing and the 6 month thing was a bit ridiculous. Smoking anything or inhaling lots of any kind of smoke can potentially lead to cancer. Combusted hydrocarbons are a bitch. I also was just pointing out that actually completely inhaling these particles would be a little harder than you think, your body is made to prevent relatively large particles from getting inside. So, yeah.

bzbuzzard
11-30-2006, 08:18 AM
I also was just pointing out that actually completely inhaling these particles would be a little harder than you think, your body is made to prevent relatively large particles from getting inside. So, yeah.

theese systems such as the cilia in your throat (little hairs designed to stop mucus and other small particles from going down your throat) are not present in smokers because teh smoke burns them away...thats why you get smokers cough because the cilia cannot remove the mucus from your throat

afghooey
11-30-2006, 08:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicosis


Silicosis (also known as Grinder's disease) is a form of pneumoconiosis caused by inhalation of crystalline silica dust, and is marked by inflammation and scarring in forms of nodular lesions in the upper lobes of the lungs.


Types of Silicosis

Classification of silicosis is made according to the disease's severity, onset, and rapidity of progression. These include:

Chronic silicosis
A form of the disease that develop after 20 years or longer of exposure to low levels of silica dust. Chronic silicosis itself is further subdivided into simple and complicated silicoses. This is the most common type of silicosis.

Asymptomatic silicosis
Early cases of the disease do not present any symptoms

Acute silicosis
Silicosis that develops after 1 to 3 years of exposure to very high concentration of silica dust.

Accelerated silicosis
Silicosis that develops after an average of 10 years of exposure to high concentration of silica dust.

I'm thinking if you've smoked a bit of this stuff it probably won't hurt you... but if this shit stays around, it could pose some pretty severe health problems with prolonged use.

JaggedEdge
11-30-2006, 08:41 AM
I never really said that it wasn't completely not dangerous. I just was stating that the original poster's description of the 15 year thing and the 6 month thing was a bit ridiculous. Smoking anything or inhaling lots of any kind of smoke can potentially lead to cancer. Combusted hydrocarbons are a bitch. I also was just pointing out that actually completely inhaling these particles would be a little harder than you think, your body is made to prevent relatively large particles from getting inside. So, yeah.

I only quoted your post because it was the last on saying something similar to it not being harmful. I agree it may not be as serious as the thread starters statement. I was only pointing out there are certainly health risks involved. I probably should have just looked for lefts post though and quoted that. :thumbsup:

And your body would filter out a lot of it, but it would still get in your lungs.

LIP
11-30-2006, 10:54 AM
you can get lung cancer from smoking period lol

Smoking tobacco.

In a study on 64000 people from the US, researcher found no direct link betwen heavey marijuana use and any form of cancer, including lung cancer.

Doesnt mean you WONT get lung cancer, but it seems pretty safe to me.

No one has ever been disagnosed with cancer from only smoking weed, most people will have smoked tobacco too, but then, thinking about it logically, you dont have to smoke anything to get cancer.

It's a shame we live in a world with this horrible disease. I've just about prepared myself knowing that i will most probably get cancer in later life, i hope to god i dont, but im not holding my breath about it.

orangeman
11-30-2006, 11:20 AM
Smoking tobacco.

In a study on 64000 people from the US, researcher found no direct link betwen heavey marijuana use and any form of cancer, including lung cancer.

Doesnt mean you WONT get lung cancer, but it seems pretty safe to me.

No one has ever been disagnosed with cancer from only smoking weed, most people will have smoked tobacco too, but then, thinking about it logically, you dont have to smoke anything to get cancer.

It's a shame we live in a world with this horrible disease. I've just about prepared myself knowing that i will most probably get cancer in later life, i hope to god i dont, but im not holding my breath about it.

Yeah same, sometimes I think I have it now because there are sometimes pains in my chest area and sometimes in my back area. I know somethings wrong so I really don't wanna go to the doctor and then they tell me what I have. I want to think that I'm going to live for as long as I can :p. If I find out I have cancer or something I will look at life completely different.

TheSmokingMonkey
11-30-2006, 06:11 PM
That's awful... I hope the trend doesn't find its way to my dealer.

king cola
11-30-2006, 08:44 PM
the way i see is that there is a shit load of rumours flying around about this stuff, so i really dont know what to believe. im thinking that if this shiz is proper bad for you there would of been some kind of official warning about this by now as the police must have blatently acquired some by now and be aware of it ( i mean i first picked up sum of this about 3 - 4months ago now and searching the web, i cannot find any official news or warnings on it) but once youve smoked a few j's of it, you notice that your throat feels dry and raspy which cant be to sweet!?!?!?!